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craziebone:
so women like that op who encouraged other women to be an asset to their men are weak women? Do you know the list of women that have been attacked by feminists because they decided not to be identified as feminist? That list also include so many hollywood stars, Omotola and Kim Kadarshian (i am not a very big fan of kim kadarshian). Do these women seem weak to you? You feminists like linking power to money, fame, career and status, and that's why even when there is gender imbalance in the jobs like fire fighting, you don't advocate quotas for such jobs.

Since you link power to money, fame, career and status, can you honestly say that the ladies i have mentioned are 'weak' women? You get money reach those women? Abi na status you get? Pls, understand i am not trying to diss you. I am only making you guys to understand there is an error in your movement and that you guys have to do something quickly otherwise, the gains you have made in the past decades will be reversed.

When you try to monopolize reproductive power, you don't expect that every body including women will agree with you. When you falsify history or tell what Chimamanda would call a "single story", just to impress your narative and further your agenda, you don't expect everyone to agree with you.

Honestly, if feminism can stick to the dictionary definition of it, no person in his right senses would go against it.

Maybe i should tell you a bit about myself: i use to be what feminists call a "real man" and that's because i defended them passionately. Infact, FrancisTony own na smalls. It continued until i got involved in a shocking discussion where feminists were arguing against male reproductive rights- that a man should not have a say at all if HIS OWN CHILD SHOULD BE BORN OR NOT. At first, i thought it was just the thinking of feminist i was discussing with; i never knew it is an article of the 3rd wave feminist religion. I had similar discussions with several other feminists and it was the same vile, disingenuinty, irrationality, hate, pathology and desperate tyranny.

I started re examining all that i fiercely defended and i came to appreciate some more, corrected the others and outrightly dismissed the vast majority!

I know I am late to this party however, your posts do not have bearing with this thread

If you want to discuss feminism, please open another thread for it.

Please post a link to the wives are assets for us to view. I doubt a lady just saying women should be assets to their husbands would generate rancor.

craziebone:
can we also say that all the feminists in this thread was shocked that another woman could possibly support men, hence the term "gender traitor"? Is that why the likes of vikkybee would suspect that such a woman is a 35year old looking for husband and would tell it to her face so as to shame her? Is that why when a lady started a thread here encouraging women to be assets to their husbands rather than liabilities, the resident feminists attacked her and the men supporting her, calling them hipocrites? Is that why in that same thread, a feminist asked the op of that thread that: "on a softer note, how many private messages have you recieved since you started this thread?

Make una dey think small na!

@bolded:

Are you referring to This thread?

I 100% doubt it.

Ewuro4:
You don't have to respond to every post on a thread because you created it. You know very well we don't gel so why did you quote me? And yes, I can comment on any thread on NL because I can.

So guess what, I owe you/Noone no clarification.

You knew well that We do not gel before you posted on a tread I created to discuss an issue.

You posted something and I quoted you to explain as per the spirit of the thread.

You have the right to comment on my thread, I have the right to quote you.

So starting with us, What caused the lack of gelment? That would help the discuss

Evina:
Sweetie.
Vex not. Please.

Where are our pictures?

Evina:

Herzumpther, iAmCharis, dearpreye, mamzii, Bukatyne.
My husband's waist hurts.
But the guy dey faya dey go. I want to run away oh
G
Layra with you guys.

Lol!

Carrygo, nothing do una

naijababe:
@ Thread, not a believer of this ridiculous maxim, humans are their own worst enemies. Period.

I agree with you

cococandy:
Ok let's settle the matter.
Women are their own worst enemies except me.
I'm the friendly nice one other women hate because they are bad and I'm good.

Was that not the point bukatyne was trying to make in her first post?
Maybe now we all agree.

Bukatyne sorry I didn't get the angle that you were coming from in the beginning.

Me I was talking on a larger societal scale. Much like saying Nigerians are their own enemies because they are the ones sabotaging their infrastructural and societal development not that Nigerians are their own enemies because they will first love a Ghanaian before another Nigerian.

Craziebone I hope you get me clearer now.

My opinion is in a different angle than the silly 'women hate each other thing' some women even help to proclaim (I don't really bother when guys say it. Na mischief dey worry them)

But for a lady that believes that, the message is clear. She agrees she hates other women.

That was my point my sister.

I read an old tread with women are the enemies of women which prompted This thread.

The two examples were the prevalent reasons.

I liked the angle you came from too. I will be more hurt If my husband says I am ugly than a random man on the street.

Beautiful writeup

zeb04:
my dear I have nothing to say oh.

It is well and a very big congrats to you.

Thanks dear.

pickabeau1:
read the thread again and make your own observation

After you.

pickabeau1:
Your question is unclear
Your first post is very clear. Why do women have issues with women - In the end it became a male bashfest

So the thread just changed from female issues to male bashing?

Interesting interpretation.

Dheartless:
from this thread, it is safe to say are their worst enemy.

I see couple of them in resentful dispute.


and most men seem to agree with each other, except for one man, who has been "the man against real men" from the creation of the world

How many females are in resentful dispute on This thread?

So a guy is not allowed to have a different opinion?

Perhaps men are their worst enemies afteral

pickabeau1:
bukatyne


I doubt that..

Read through the thread

The first salvo was fired with a poster calling guys hypocrites and you ladies jumped on it.


disgust for hypocrisy is mutual

This was your post

Where is the hypocrisy in my first post?

zeb04:
Same old group,same old story

Life must be boring!!!

Sorry joor

You can still drop your thoughts

Amidst the crazy posts

Ewuro4:
Well except the ones that sleep with their female relative husbands. And No they aren't crazy.

So, I guess you can say the bold They will laugh with themselves but deep inside them is evil. Gosh I can't deal. 99.99% of hate posts on this thread are liked by women. Go figure

Did you do a secret survey to know the posters who liked a post?

Who are the evil ones? Women? Are you exempt from This evil?

pickabeau1:
So a thread to discuss a possible generalization on women being their own enemies has been turned by the same women into a male bashfest and of course insult other women

can we now say women are everyone's enemies aside their family members

Sorry I cannot ignore hypocrisy and selective reading. They disgust me a lot.

The insults on This thread was started by guys

iykedare:
This really riled me up. Isn't this a case of women being their own enemies?
To start with,you look like a sick kid. Have u got no respect for people older than you are or has the internet killed your sense of reasoning?
Madam feminist, you belong to the romance section where dolts like you show your disrespect for fellow forum members.

Learn the meaning of feminism. It does not denote that you insult any woman who has opinion different to that of another woman.

Interesting.

Should We say men are also their worst enemies due to the way other male posters attacked him?

Please Do not bring age into This issue. Very few people can claim innocence.

VictoriaBee:
Same way you all bounced on that dude, francis.

Example of men being there worst enemy.

Lol!

Ewuro4:
Yes. My worst enemies are women. On & offline.

Reason I pick my friends carefully. They're always out to either backstab you as a result of their senseless jealousies or just beef for the sake of beefing. even when I couldn't boast of an ordinary MasterCard to my name, They still hate. That's just women. I don't really care how men roll. Not my business.

I believe this topic is about a gender scale to determine how many enemy a typical woman can boast of , no? It's not far fetched atall.

I teach my children to hold on to their sisterhood friendship coz that's the only best & reliable female friendship that can never be broken.

I'm a woman. I don't mince my words and what you see is what you get..many women don't like that , well too bad.

You mean female posters just see your moniker and decide they want to hate you or you both clashed as a result of difference in opinions and you both maintain coldness thereafter?

You also mean a lot of females are backstabbers excluding you and your group of friends?

Just seeking clarification

Dheartless:
nice dish

there will certainly be some few others who are not ready to kill each other over settleable issues and I am sure those species can make a good meal for a brother.
otherwise they are not qualified to own a home with a hard working brother.

Thanks

TV01:
...the truth is Bukatyne' rancid shrewishness is only only exceeded by - and used as cover for - her quite shocking mental dullness. That's why she prefers to spiritualise her threads - so she can sound like one who possesses understanding, by just quoting scripture or regurgitating sermons she's heard parrot-fashion .

Trying to engage her intellectually is an exercise in frustration - but to be fair that's probably as much for her, as you can sense her brain frying as she struggles with basic logic and comprehension - I would not advise it. It's why I limit her to trolling.

Her one redeeming feature is the fact she's married, although I seriously wonder what our broda is suffering at her hands . Anyway, thanks for small mercies - we only have to suffer her from time to time on NL, not 24/7 in real life. Can you imagine? .


TV

^{...and don't hold your breath waiting for her to admit her error, humility is basically non-existent in her lexicon, plus she has zero sense of humour .}

First you must have lost Some nuts in your head dragging my husband into this.

You think posting nonsense posts with a mixture of insults is intelligence or posting hypocritical posts of things you cannot do in your life is.

I quote sermons here really? Stupid nutcase.

Someone is shrewd when the person replies your insults with insults. You can spew gibberish with your acidic Hands yet you are crying someone is a shrew. Pathetic

Mister smart pants, We see you with your smart comments offline.

Foolish hypocritical ugly short old man!

Now Bleep off my mentions and now you know I am a shrew, watch How you quote me.

Idiot.

omonnakoda:
This story has been fictionalized to hide identities but is essentially true of a couple in Nigeria

Mr A& Mrs A have been married for 6 years They have two kids aged 2 and 4 years . They are both professionals and studied exactly the same course at University .To climb the career ladder in their profession one needs to take several exams and courses which Mr A has been doing they decided that Mrs A would be a housewife full time and Mr A would work. Mr A earns about 1.5 million a year and they are quite comfortable. Mr A is building a duplex with a company loan and it should be finished later this year or early next year. They are from the same state and their extended families are not a burden.
There are some cracks emerging in the relationship mainly about money. Mr A drives a brand new car which was bought by his company. His wife's car is smaller and has no A/C recently her father died and she asked Mr A for a contribution.She hates asking her for money becuse he sometimes refuses or cuts down her requests. She is resentful that 3 years ago he splashed out heavily on on hi own father's burial ceremony. Also the house he is building is in his name even though she supervises all the work.She would prefer to work so she has her own money rather than ask Mr A for money. She insists she now wants to restart her career while he i adamant that she remain a housewife. She has demanded that in that case they should split his salary 50:50.
What do ya think?

The husband should have been ready to give the wife allowance monthly or make his finance accessible to her.

The wife getting a job might lead to the dearth of the marriage If the husband is still adamant. I would advice she still insists even at the expense of her marriage or start an online business. That husband may leave her high and dry at the end of the day.

50:50 sharing is not realistic except If it after expenditure.

I also think it should be #1.5m per month. #1.5m per year is about #125k monthly and I am wondering how he copes with all the expenditure.

I would suggest they go back to the drawing board and If they cannot reach a consensus, the wife stands her ground.

Goodluck

Afrobeau:
Hi everyone, please I need your advice. I am an Igbo girl but my boyfriend is from Delta state (He is Delta Igbo). We've been dating for some months and now he really wants to marry me. He's 25 which my parents think is too early for him to get married and I'm a year younger than him. Speaking of my parents, they are not 100% in support, my Dad is ok with where he's from but my mum, not so much. Their incomplete support also has to do with the fact that my boyfriend is not yet very established so they are skeptical of his true personality. I also heard stories that deltans marry many wives and that sometimes they cheat and do not take it as anything serious. He is good looking and has a couple of girls running after him. He says he loves me and has promised me over and over again that he will never cheat and will do anything to make me happy. I'm seriously confused. I love him but sometimes I have doubts.
Just any information about how marriage in Delta state works could help. Information on their religious beliefs and tradition, the physical environment, and the place of a wife in the extended family, or personal experience/marriage with Deltans will be appreciated. since he is Delta Igbo, will my kids be regarded as Igbo too, (my boyfriend sees himself as Igbo), I have nothing against Deltans but I would love my kids to be seen as Igbos however, I wouldn't reject my boyfriend if he wasn't 100% Igbo.
Thanks in advance.. (pls don't be rude)

There will be stereotypes everywhere... just learnt that Lagoisans marry a lot of wives on NL. I haven't seen one Anyways (I know We are talking of a small pool). I am more concerned about the substance of the person here.

First your joint finances cannot cater for your home... How much is the aggregate? Where are you based? What are your plans? Kids immediately? Career first?

Second What do you mean by women are chasing him? If he is not giving them hope, they should back off after a while. What are his views with regards cheating? Love? Man - Woman relationship dynamics? How does he relate with other ladies? Who are his friends?

Third: What was the foundation of your relationship? It sounds like it did not start off serious... What changed? Why is he now interested in marrying you? Are you planning to becelibate till marriage?

Fourth: If you want Igbo kids, marry an Igbo man. Besides, Delta Igbos have Igbo names So your kids would have Igbo names.

Now is the time to find out who he is and he said, he said. Forget all those I want to marry you talk and learn more about him.

Goodluck

njokusboy:
You people make this thing too easy, one thing about stoopidity is dat you tend to sound more stoopid when you are attempting to defend it....
You said "chauvinism is genderless" in reference to the fact that he was suggesting than men were being chauvinistic and sexist, with one side of your mouth and still claim that you are not trying to defend/clarify/explain what he meant with the other .... if you don't look stoopid to urself by now, then you are hopeless...
I hope you are not this stoopid in real life, else I won't need to break your head, a lot of people would gladly do it

I have told you I am NOT responsible for your comprehension issues.

I am also not responsible for your bitterness and silliness.

Drink a chilled cup of water and go over the posts again...

You might be lucky to understand.

Goodluck on your quest.

njokusboy:
It's really hard to respond to you fraudulent rats without resorting to insults.... some of you deserve a hard knock on ur cranium, right in the centre.....
Your post was in plain English which makes me wonder whether you have a problem understanding what you typed yourself..

You opened a thread about "women saying they were their worst enemies"... someone came and made a remark about it being sexist and chauvinistic implying that men were responsible when the thread clearly stated that women use the term often... other women on this forum even agreed with the saying...
Instead of sticking with the thread you created yourself, you chose to flow with the diversion.
You attempted to deny he was referring to men by giving me a hare brained definition of chauvinism, you even traversed the boundary of stoopidity to a point of preposterity by adding "female chauvinism" for effect....
You also conveniently side stepped the "sexism" aspect which I reminded you of only to come back with one corny and patronising remark about your post being written in English.... You think we lack deductive reasoning like you?
If there is anyone closing their eyes to what happens around them, it's clearly you, matter of fact, ur eyes are wide open but you are playing blind...
Pls, conscious idiocy does not pay....

It is not my fault you cannot comprehend English. That post said chauvinism was genderless. It never claimed to explain Tony's post.

If you are So passionate about the fraudulent rats, you can put your fist through your screen to break their heads.

Scallywag.

TV01:
Be quiet woman...your shrewishness is legendary on this section - e no get part II .

Says the resident shrew

TV01:
Hush. I've never doubted or questioned your story ...why would I? I celebrate marriage and hope all experience and enjoy it's benefits.

Still your mouth. You introduced the term "viper", and sneakily tried to associate it to my wife - as you've done again by emphasising "around you". Not just shrewish, not just passive aggressive, but also sneaky and as thick as two short planks !

In additional to other qualities, you are daft. When you say all women have a little snake in them, your wife or family members was exempt abi? or your wife is not a female? If I say all men are dogs for example, would it be wrong for some poster to say including your husband?

TV01:
And your thread is about "women being their own worst enemies". It's not about men - as much as you've encourages NL #1 AssLick to make it so.

Who is the asslick? He is 100% better than you who says nonsense on one thread and say something else on another. This thread was a call to discussion with posters coming up with different views. He brought his own views and it was discussed. If you had something to say, why didn't you post it? Obviously you cannot resist a temptation smear threads with your bitterness

TV01:
Utterly bogus. Your "personal qualities" are well known around these parts. If there were contradictions in any of my posts, you simply do not possess the smarts to spot them - oya, I dare you . But keep making baseless accusations if it gives you the tingles.

LOL! you must really think NL revolves around you. Next time you want to post your hypocritical stance on a thread, think of what you said you do at home or what you can do.

TV01:
My thoughts about the quality of you "elejo wewe" threads, in no way impairs my right to troll on them . Like I said, "limited smarts".
I'm free to post, you are free not to look or pointedly ignore her when making "fake salutations". No one has stopped you posting your own -partially obscured - pics. You are emblematic of the "own worst enemy" saying. Distended bad belle + e jelosi !.

Oh, Tv thinks my treads are elejo weweish... I am crying; my salary will not be paid o! What is heck is your problem with my pictures? You started the picture craze on this thread now you are saying no one is stopping from posting mine? Are you losing track of your posts here or what? Or is this the case of posting before thinking? Ignore who? not look at who?

TV01:
My pleasure. Are extreme hormone fluctuations to be blamed for your current high levels of crankiness? !!.

What is to be blamed for your constant bitterness?


TeeVee[/quote]Have you used those stuffs I asked you to last year?

You are getting worked up again.

FrancisTony:
Well, the most ridiculous, is one saying, "i'm a female hiding under male moniker".
In their chauvinistic mind, they just can't wrap it why a male would be bashing their hypocrisy and stvpidity.
If i'm really a girl, my account would be new and most importantly, created in 2015 to bash men but i have been active on Nairaland since 2013.

Here's another hypocrisy of Nairaland men;
If a man bash women, he automatically becomes a hero - useless online hero when there are missing chibok girls to be saved.
If he support women, he is a sissy or an asslicker.

If a woman bash men, she becomes a misandry or lesbian with an awry childhood.
If a woman support men, she becomes a wife material.

Do you mind them?

I am sure 90% of them do not even practice the nonsense they spew here.

njokusboy:
Lmao, you hope what helps
Let me indulge you; female chauvinism, is it against females or against males... if it's against males, how does it fit into the expression " women are their own worst enemies" used by women in reference to other women.... Hint: female chauvinism is the belief that men are inferior to women, (you either do not know wat it means or ur mixing it up...)
You cannot be seriously suggesting that he was referring to "female chauvinism" ( dat also makes no sense) when he cited an example of "Davido and Wizkid"....
You are either trolling on ur own thread or trying to be snaky....
His full statement was that it was both chauvinistic and sexist... defend the sexist part make I see...
It's amazing how you ladies continuously mislead dat kid so he goes about making a fool of himself...

I believe my post you quoted is plain English.

I only defined chauvinism and stated people posted from different POVs which was tackled. No where did I try to explain the chauvinism referred to in his post or defended his post. (why should I?)

Who are the ladies misleading Francis?

How does he make a fool of himself? Dropping his opinions per subject matter? You must think insulting everyone who has a different POV and closing your eyes to what happens around you is wisdom.

If you do not like his opinions, leave him be. This is an online forum.

Dheartless:
they can kill themselves, I careless.
me and my homies just want to put heads together and strategize more ways of making cash and achieving success.

no time to fight each other when we can be of help to ourselves by working together.
that doesn't mean we won't break him, if the person that wants our downfall is a man.
but it also means if he is willing to offer his virtues and be apart if our success, even though he was our great enemy, we will accept his offer and work together.

and that is how me and my home boys roll.

If they kill themselves, who would you and your hommies marry?

TV01:
Answer the question na - has oga put a bun in your oven? A year and 2 days later We are interested to know when you'll be popping one out ! No to Jaffa's !

We want pix - still no wedding fotos? - and good news, not just your usual "sickly child" threads (which by the way my "trolling" helped ginger up - no don't thank me ).

Kids are fine thank you - why didn't you ask after my gorgeous wife? - "worst enemy type thingy right there" ? Make I no spam your thread with her lovely pictures 0!


No girl, years of experience and life lived. Pretty much all women have a bit of the "snake" in them. With your passive aggression, I have little doubt how you deal with other women. Your fake piety not withstanding.


TV

^{...baby pix, not sickly chil' threads}

Amusing you amuse someone of fake piety. Check in the mirror, the image stirring at you is a poster person for fake and hypocrisy

So you believe I am married? Lols! I thought the story before was that I was pretending?

And I guess this snake is plainly women's thing? Men don't have the little snake in them? Or is there a special snake women around you possess? Your average post is filled with direct or subtle jabs yet you are taking of snakes in women (around you)

I am not passive aggressive, I do not just have tolerance for bullshit and hypocrisy amongst others on and offline. However, I can understand your reference to passive aggressiveness... You bark from thread to thread on NL yet you cannot practice 1/10 what you incite men to do with stupid posts contradicting yourself so you would expect everyone else to be like you. Remove your Pharisee garment and maybe... just maybe you will see around you more clearly.

My threads are sickly childish and you keep posting here, how wise of you.

If posting your wife's pictures here would add colour or meaning to your life, please entertain us.

keep trolling.

njokusboy:
Owk, remove the op from the post, everything still stands...
The op did say that she hear a lot of women use the phrase "women are their worst enemy".
Nd then someone comes to say it's a chauvinistic statement.... which doesn't make an iota of sense.
How can a statement mostly used by females be termed chauvinistic....
Abi you want to claim you don't know wat I am driving at

The term 'Chauvinist' in its proper form is genderless.

The correct thing is Male/Female chauvinist.

I hope This helps.

And a number of posters came from different angles.

cococandy:
@bold makes me laugh sometimes.

Na those ones dey give men mouth to insult women. If they (men) can say women even prefer male bosses, makes you wonder what those ladies who prefer male bosses hope to do with themselves if they ever get to such position.

Or are they simply prepared to be disliked for being female since they've been encouraging such discrimination earlier on?

They will experience the wind of change