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Christianity Etc › Re: Confessions Of A Nun About The Activities That Goes On In A Covent. MUST READ!!! by bukatyne(f): 7:50pm On May 08, 2015
@crowns2,

Weldone

@Story:

Very heart wrenching.
Family › Re: Can I Perform My Omugwo Myself? by bukatyne(f): 7:00pm On May 08, 2015
You see Platnum1,

You can do it smiley wink
Family › Re: Can I Perform My Omugwo Myself? by bukatyne(f): 7:00pm On May 08, 2015
milvet:
d hot water works o!
LOL!

Oyinbo mericine versus native remedy.
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 3:12pm On May 08, 2015
lolaredvelvet:
My point exactly! If women want to be equal to men then who is left to do what a woman is supposed to do? A wise woman is humble, simple and respectful to her man. Proverbs 31. She makes a living but NEVER should demand or order her man around ..... but what I see "feminists" trying to do is disrespect and degrade men but expect respect and adoration in return. It doesn't work that way. The devil has tricked women to believing being submissive means you are a fool. Now society is full of broken homes and families.

Relationships work best when both sexes play their respective roles. God ordered us women to submit to our men while the man loves the woman in return treating her with care and delicacy.
We are obviously not saying the same thing.

Humility, simplicity and respectfulness are not sole responsibilities of women in marriage. Men also ought not to order their wives around. 'Feminists' are not the ones who try to disrespect and degrade others and expect respect and adoration.

Besides, feminism and equality is wider than marriage.

I agree with you on mutual respect and treating others as you want them to treat you.

If giving expensive gifts make women equal.. don't you think the Kim Kardashians and Beyonces are 'equal' to their men? Are women who pay more bills and give more expensive gifts (due to higher earning power) 'superior' to their men or men in general?
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 3:04pm On May 08, 2015
ApexTitan:
Are you holding on to the idea that until all masculine jobs and responsibilities are mirrored in the female demographic that is when fairness and equality would have been achieved? That's just what is fundamentally wrong with feminism - it refuses to respect the differences that are inherent in each gender. In trying to create an equal playing ground feminism has wrought serious damage on the very fibres of society and that's what I've been singing about on this thread.

It is funny that feminism always push for equality when it comes to the glamorous, i.e, feminists want more female CEOs, more female senators and the likes but they are curiously silent when occupations like plumbing, construction, fire fighting and other physically demanding jobs are brought up. One never hears anything about feminists protesting to be included in a military draft (in countries where the draft is mandatory), they are happy to leave those ones in the hands of men.
Do you know any parent who wants his child to be like the street mechanic or the omolanke?

Every parent wants his/her child to be a Lawyer, Doc, Engineer (now musician and football Star).

Besides, is there any glass ceiling stopping women from becoming plumbers or fire fighters if they want to?

As I said earlier, everyone should be given the freedom to be whatever they wanna be. CEO, fine... Lawyer, fine... Keke driver... fine

I do not think we have such restrictions in the Nigerian corporate environment.I might be wrong though.

Again, I think most of the battle left is of the mind. If husbands could be more supportive of their wives' careers, they would go a long way. No rule formulated on earth can make an unsupportive and unloving husband become supportive.
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 2:41pm On May 08, 2015
lolaredvelvet:
Oh lord! Lemme grab my popcorn and wait for vickybee and other "feminists" to come here and spew even more venomous trash! smiley

Self-acclaimed feminists who argue for equality with men and yet expect laptops, phones, cars etc on vals day but in return give their dude a card grin .. Feminists that slap a man and then scream domestic abuse when he slaps her back. Feminists that demand men do chores because shes a "strong independent working woman" but yet still expects the man to pay the bills. Feminists that expect the man to propose and pay her bride price. Why dont you also pay his husband-price since you are equal.. tongue

Feminists stand up in your truth and begin to assume the responsibilities of men. Abi you just wanna eat ur cake and have it too!

Bottom line is dont scream equality when you cant handle what it takes to be equal with men.
I think you are mixing different things up.

@Bold: If women assumes the 'responsibilities' of men, who assumes the 'responsibilities' of women?

What has giving of gifts, paying bills etc. got to do with 'equality'? If there are two male friends and one is stingy or tries to be too smart, is one unequal to the other?
Family › Re: Words From A Mother To Her Daughter Before Marriage by bukatyne(f): 2:18pm On May 08, 2015
Eggcelent:
A great piece. I especially love Points 6 & 11.
6. A wise wife makes the man feel so good that he assumes that he is the head. Once he gets that feeling, the woman gently wields her power and
the head actually turns to wherever the neck wants without a protest.
11. If you assume that as the woman, only you need to be pampered and fussed over while the man is a stone that has no emotions, you need to
be pitied.
Is a man supposed to assume he is the head or is the man the head?
Family › Re: Can One Slap His Wife In This Case? by bukatyne(f): 1:59pm On May 08, 2015
Timbuktou:
The guy no do well at all. He shoulda had these incidents well-documented and then reported and sent to her parents. This beating will achieve nothing. He's married to a beast, he's just fuelled the fire she needs to bring misery to his life.
Even if he is ending the marriage, those slaps were necessary.
Family › Re: Can One Slap His Wife In This Case? by bukatyne(f): 1:52pm On May 08, 2015
Optimall:
If I were to be him,I go beat am eee



Smh for women.

Give them one shoe,they will look for the other size
.
I thought you are a woman (from your denoted sex)?

Does it mean that if I give you one shoe, you will look for the other onehuh
Family › Re: Can One Slap His Wife In This Case? by bukatyne(f):
ademega:
I am not in any way in support of raising a finger at a woman. I consider it barbaric .In fact, only a mentally disabled man will beat and beat his wife at the slightest provocation .

Having said the above , and with a thread a nairalander opened yesterday about her friend that was always receiving the beating of her life from her husband,the story of my step brother came to my mind .

Before my brother got married,he was this gentle, quiet, caring, loving and hard working type. He got married to this beautiful and also easy going lady. We were all happy about the union and expecting a kind of union that will be a model for us his younger ones.

There was this evening we received an unusual call from the wife saying my brother has been giving her the beating of her life since morning . That he has nearly killed her. Immediately she dropped the call, her mum called again that if anything should happen to her daughter that my mum and the whole family would be responsible and in for it. Her younger sister called again, calling my brother unprintable names and giving different kinds of warnings, if anything should happen to her sister.

This destabilsed us in the house. We were confused. Nobody has ever reported my brother in the house before, hence it was strange. We called my brother but he didn't even pick .

To cut the long story short, my brother eventually came home after three days to actually explain what happened.
He said since he got married to the popularly believed gentle,innocent girl, it has been horror for him. He said he has been trying to protect that good quality popularly believed by the family, and that was the reason why he has not reported her newly discovered characters to anyone and was hoping that she would change sooner .

He said for the past two years, that his wife slapped or beat him on the slightest provocation. He showed us old and new wounds all over his body. He said he has been enduring it all these while . He further said he noticed his wife was becoming stronger and happy with her actions because every time she would introduce new styles of beating him.

He said on this faithful day, there was an argument and before he could say one or two words, one, two slaps don land gidigba for his face. She didn't stop there, but went further to use her high heel shoes on him. Not yet done she went further to bite him severally ( the hand bite almost resulted in Whitlow). We saw with our eyes all the injuries inflicted on him . In fact, my younger brother had to ask him if his legs and hands were tied together while all these were going on. He said he was just smiling and trying to hold her together .

After all these, he said he had to talked to himself: for how long would these continue? He said his wife was doing all these just because she knows his position towards beating a lady, and before they got married he had one time or the other condemned men that do beat their wives and even called them animals.

The wife having realised this, was now doing the beating and expecting the husband to keep to his words and be strong in his conviction .

He said on this particular day, when his wife had finished doing her worst, he went to her ( not in anger but intentionally) and told her that what he was about to do is necessary at this point . That he wanted to prove one thing, which is , not that he doesn't have the power to beat but he has vowed not to in his life and seeing the type of woman she is, he has to prove this point today.

He first begged for forgiveness from God and her, and then, immediately, he landed two hot slaps on her face which caught her unawares and her jaw dropped.

Immediately he did this ,she went straight to pick up her phone and started calling her relatives and telling them lies that he has nearly finished her with beating .

In this case , what is your judgement ?
Bros,

This your case is clearly different

The wife was the offender...

With the resetting slaps, I am sure the wife would never try herself again...

2 years? Your brother is a saint.

Asking God and her forgiveness before the slap? Classic! That your bros get swag.
Family › Re: The Wife Beating Campaign On Nairaland by bukatyne(f): 1:43pm On May 08, 2015
@OP:

The law of self preservation in inherent in everyone.

When the beating is too much for them to handle, they know what to do about it.
Family › Re: The Wife Beating Campaign On Nairaland by bukatyne(f): 1:42pm On May 08, 2015
5minsmadness:
A woman goes to the doctor, beaten Black and Blue.

Doctor: "What happened?"

Woman: "Doctor, I don't know what to do. Every time my husband comes home drunk he beats me to a pulp."

Doctor: "I have a real good medicine for that. When your husband comes home drunk, just take a glass of sweet tea and start swishing it in your mouth. Just swish and swish but don't swallow until he goes to bed and is asleep."

Two weeks later the woman comes back to the doctor looking fresh and reborn.

Woman: "Doctor, that was a brilliant idea! Every time my husband came home drunk, I swished with sweet tea. I swished and swished, and he didn't touch me!"

Doctor: "You see how much keeping your mouth shut helps?"
What happens when it is the husband that is abusive?
Celebrities › Re: At 45 She Is Still Smoking Hot (photos) by bukatyne(f): 1:00am On May 08, 2015
My J.Lo kiss
Family › Re: Third Party In A Marriage, Would You Intercede When Called Upon? by bukatyne(f): 12:50am On May 08, 2015
Yes, 100%

If it is a genuine call
Family › Re: Advice:He Wants Me To Leave Our 6months Old Baby With His Mum And Travel To Work by bukatyne(f): 12:45am On May 08, 2015
@Juzzybabe:

You need stronger relatives around now. Can you get a female relative who is assertive around?

I fear your mom can be persuaded to leave under the guise that the issue will be resolved.

Also try to heal before leaving If possible and reach out to your husband after the dust has settled without necessarily disclosing your location.

Goodluck.
Family › Re: A Mother's Letter To Indonesia President by bukatyne(f): 12:22am On May 08, 2015
What did the mother hope to achieve with her letter?
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 10:19pm On May 07, 2015
Amefrica:
I have no problem with your thoughts. But, in every system, I believe there should be a hegemon to regulate, maintain peace and stability. I don't understand why you don't agree with this point.

Human nature isn't that very best, and 'we' tend to treat others not-so-really-good. You kinda believe in 'anarchy' which most times (not everytime) leads to chaos. Without a hegemon, to maintain order can be really hard.
And who/What will be the hegemon in This case?
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 10:06pm On May 07, 2015
AgapeCharis:
Nice reply I must say
Thanks
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 10:06pm On May 07, 2015
ApexTitan:
Our sense of humanity decides what is fair.

Men and women are adept in different areas,one gender better equipped in certain areas than the other. So in relation to certain conditions it can be argued that men are "superior" to women while in others women are "superior" to men. This superiority is only contextual and lies in the very areas of the gender's differences but it cannot and should not be glossed over.

It is the feminist movement that seeks to overlook these fundamental facts instead arguing that both genders are co-equals in every facet. Its argument is that neither is "superior" but really it's actions betray even this flawed argument as it pushes for feminine primacy.
Sense of humanity?

Do you really want to put your faith in that? What If that human decides otherwisehuh

The context of superiority used in your post is more of individual or genderic differences. We can argue that an Igbo man is different from a Yoruba man (do not want to use superior to avoid fire grin) in Some areas So also a Yoruba man is different from the Igbo in Some areas.

However, We all know that when superority is used in This context, it means better than.

I will admit that There are a number of extremists aka feminazis who see everything as a war of genders.

There are also Some who 'seek equality' in stupid things; I remember a bored lady who wanted ladies to have the right to walk topless... I have never seen a guy walk about topless before. Even agberos (touts) wear uniforms or tops; another group wanted males and females to use the same urinals and went about smashing all the male ones (I hope they are behind bars).

There are some who would not support the causes above But understand equality to mean being rude and uncouth and start showing their powers left, right, center.

Some see everything a guy does or says as an affront to their equality. Even common sense issues like 'sister open your umbrella, it is raining' is met with must I listen or obey you? grin

But again, aren't There extremists in every causehuh

I would say We learn good human relations; it helps most of the time. Delete rudeness and loudness from your dictionary. Listen to What someone is saying before assuming. Believe you are equals in your mind... it gives a sense of calm.

A number of people are rude because they have victim mentality... This guy did This because I am a lady even If the guy is a wizard (not saying that There are no guys who naturally disregard women).

Please, sorry and thank you goes a long way too. cheesy
Family › Re: Why We Cheat On Our Husbands - Nigerian Women Open Up by bukatyne(f): 6:26pm On May 07, 2015
cococandy:
No she can't . Didn't you read that part.
Hmmm
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 6:15pm On May 07, 2015
Family › Re: Can I Perform My Omugwo Myself? by bukatyne(f): 6:11pm On May 07, 2015
@OP:

Congrats

I love your honest assessment of the whole situation. You are not projecting your mom as a saint here.

Your MiL seems not to be an option due to finances also.

@Post matrum care: Do you have relatives/family friends where you want to move to? If no, you might have to rrely on midwives, church members, trustworthy neighbors and DIY thingy.

It is well.

I am sure other posters with practical experience will come along.
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f):
AgapeCharis:
I think he meant treating everyone fairly irrespective of the gender rather than agitating for the equal authority and power with the male folks.

Amefrica did I speak your mind??
Who decides What is fair?

And you are assuming men are superior to women.

See my post to amefrica
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 5:56pm On May 07, 2015
Amefrica:
Let's say we have 3 people now. One is 5ft tall, the second person is 5'5, and the last person 6'1 tall. This 3 people need to see a football match and the block obstructing them is like 6ft tall..

If all of them are given equal rights, only the tallest of them all would be able to see the match.

But equal justice means, the 5'5 guy should be given a stood of around 7inch tall, the 5ft guy should be given 1ft tall stood, while the last person doesn't need any stand.

You understand?
Thanks

I have seen This illustration lot of times. Lol!

Equal right doesn't say everyone is the same. The tallest guymight have myopia etc.

There is still the place and factor of human relationships. There is no right dispensing machine that says X, Y and Z are the same and gbam! Take Z.

Also This illustration also means that There must be someone deciding What is fair and What is not which already is a recipe for disaster.

I prefer a system where everyone has the right/privilege to watch the match. Let the shortest pally with the tallest to watch the match(sit on his shoulders). Tomorrow, tallie might Lose his pen and shortie bends to pick it up. Shortie might be smarter etc. I believe more in the power of teamwork and relationship building.
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 5:46pm On May 07, 2015
AgapeCharis:
From what we've seen so far, you really can't be a feminist without towing the lane of extremism. It all starts with equal rights whatever and later subliminally snowballs into an anti-male ideology.
Interesting
Family › Re: Why We Cheat On Our Husbands - Nigerian Women Open Up by bukatyne(f): 5:45pm On May 07, 2015
lastpage:
Dont give yourself headache... TWO can play the game but one will suffer the consequences more. wink wink

If she cheats, she better not be caught otherwise, the marriage ends right there.
And getting caught is getting easier nowadays, if you are ready to invest the 'effort'... based on an initial reason for suspicion. wink

Everyone has the right to cheat if they so desire but what wont happen is for you to be cheating and expecting me to remain married to you! undecided :-

I divorce you and l marry a younger, prettier and more sexy lady who is better than you the "old cargo", in more than ten ways!



And dont forget, you cant divorce me also but l will always assure you, with "my type", what l will replace you with, will always be better than you.

Same as l do my vehicles, the last one MUST be better than the last one, in more than ten ways. wink grin

Lastpage!
Interesting way to view your wife.

And your wife cannot divorce you?
Family › Re: Why We Cheat On Our Husbands - Nigerian Women Open Up by bukatyne(f): 5:41pm On May 07, 2015
eagleeye2:
Cheating can never be justified.
male/female
This is the point We need to get to morally.

If a spouse is not acting well and love talk, nagging, reporting etc. is not working, nothing stops the wronged spouse to temporarily separate for the other partner to come to his/her sense or marriage die a natural death.
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 3:21pm On May 07, 2015
Amefrica:
Of course, I believe in equal rights and opportunities for all humans. I just don't like extremists. Feminism shouldn't be mistaken for misandry tho. I don't like extremists and they have no good to offer than destroy.

We have a lot of feminists here in Canada, I even have some as friends. But still, I believe equal justice is kind of needed than equal right smiley
Please explain the bolded.

Thanks
Family › Re: Enmanuel Adebayor Exposes Family On Facebook by bukatyne(f): 2:04pm On May 07, 2015
Some families do not deserve to be recognized as one.

As the Bible says... there is a friend who sticketh closer than a brother...

I am sure he knows the account number of all his family members

Send them stipends periodically and build a life for yourself and immediate family.
Phones › Re: Is (excessive/frequent) Changing Of Display Picture A Sign Of Immaturity? by bukatyne(f): 1:40pm On May 07, 2015
MizMyColi:
Well, I just gotta admit that the more we are think we know, the more we don't.

I'm at that phase where I am learning (kai! It's hard ehnangry) how to be wholly accepting of self, whether I wear fine clothings or not. Whether I make up or not.

More important I am learning how to ask, will I like him/them?
Instead of the stereotypical "will he/they like me?"
The research doesn't include those who do not have a DP? grin
Family › Re: Feminism: Has It Done More Harm Than Good? by bukatyne(f): 12:02pm On May 07, 2015
AgapeCharis:
I quite agree but let's look at what it has yielded so far. The negative effect is on the higher side.
Well Well

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