₦airaland Forum

omoredia:
I expect that u will decend into the doldrum of insults and condescending vertuperations when presented with the facts. Remember u don't pass a point across that way, neither will u get to the top by insulting people.

Have a nice day! If we cant discuss then we shouldn't fight.

how long did you spend combing the dictionary looking for a word? Which facts? You never answered my question, where did I say Block votes are all you need? its not my fault your English and the meaning of what is being said is poor or you lack the ability to think in a logical manner...In a way its not your fault too, I guess you are clearly a product of a failed education system.

omoredia:
You don't need block votes to win the presidency. U need to have the 2/3 majority spread. That's why Buhari failed severally despite ur unfounded block votes assertion, but only won until Tinubu helped him get south west votes.

You are clearly not just poorly educated, at this point i'm beginning to think you are also daft. Where did I say you dont need geographical spread? Where did I say ALL you need is block votes? What in anything I wrote would lkead you to the conclusion that All you need are block votes. Can you see how daft you are?

It's like telling you i saw someone on the express heading towards Shagamu and you telling me that I said his destination is Shagamu. Did I tell you his final destination is Shagamu? Someone heading to Shagamu could be going to ibadan, ilorin, oyo, Ondo, OSogbo, Ife etc......Many of you people have a problem with English.

With your level of English you clearly cannot function in a high level environment.

omoredia:
To explain u don't except that I am educated. If not then there will be no hope for the uneducated.

If you don’t even know the difference between accept and except, maybe you aren’t as educated as you think?

A block vote is a large group of voters that will vote for you and nobody else. So if you are guaranteed to get 1m block votes from 1 state, you can afford to lose even 9 states with 1 million voters by 100k votes in each state and you will still win.

Why block votes are important: in 2019, APC get 90% of the 900k votes in Borno but Adamawa, Benue, Taraba and plateau together have almost 3.5million votes but although Atiku won all those 4 states his margin of victory was narrow such that Apc victory in just 1 state with just 900k total votes Borno, wiped out Atiku’s gain in 4 states with 3.5million votes. Even though a state like Plateau has more voters than Borno.

omoredia:
Start with ur block votes

I don’t believe I need to explain what block votes are to an educated person.

I suggest you gooogle 2019 presidential elections and 2015 presidential elections. When you scroll down the Wikipedia pages you will see the results of the elections by parties, states, and percentages where the votes came from.

A lot of the noise people make on Nairaland can be settled by looking at the figures. In fact I dare say most people on Nairaland have never looked at the figures.

No disrespect intended but I suggest you spend some time looking at the figures and you won’t be asking me what block votes are and how significant in the North. As an example, Atiku in 2019 did not get 25% in 7 key Northern states, he got less that 27% in 9 Northern states. When you see a party getting 95% in a northern state you know It is fool hardy to think Atiku is popular there or that Peter Obi has any chance of getting 25% constitutional requirement in that state. If you look at the figures you will realize that most states are marginal states with a margin of victory around 10%. A block vote victory in 1 key Northern state can erase the victory of an opposition party in 5 or 6 marginal states.

I can go on and on but you will get a better picture if you actually peruse the data yourself and then you will realize 99% of comments on Nairaland are ignorant comments. When you look at the figures you will realize 3 things

1 Atiku is not that popular in the North
2. You understand why APC NEED to fly a Muslim-Muslim ticket
3. You will understand that not only can Peter Obi not win, but he has likely damaged Atiku

omoredia:
Wrong. The north is even more diverse than the south.

Do I need to explain the difference between diversity and block votes?

The North will block vote for APC and PDP. All others are pretenders as far as the north is concerned and that includes NNPP and Obi.

omoredia:
The north doesn't have more votes than the south. What the north doesn't have is voter apathy, electoral complacency and a general lackadaisical attitude to affairs of government and governance, that must change!

Nigeria's potential can only be unlocked by a south that is very much involved in politics and governance.

Nope. What the North have is block votes. The southern vote will be split between 3 parties. Even if the whole of the south turn out, the north will determine the election because the North will vote for only 2 candidates.

Kingsley Moghalu is deloping a track record of always abandoning a party when he doesn’t get the presidential ticket.

Always demanding……never getting!

kingscare1:
Obi/Kwankanso is all we know.

Obi for south votes.
Kwakwamso for northern votes.

Why would kwakanso step down for Obi?

Did I read Malami? ���

jlinkd78:
Way to go

The British government CANNOT help a British citizen in the country where he holds a dual Nationality. It is clearly stated on the back page of the British Passport.

Zeezenho:
Obi is not osibanjo sir.

but their supporters share a similar trait...delusion! Ihough i will admit Obi supporters are less deluded than Osinbajo supporters but deluded none the less.

Everest9:
that is why they don't have anything free from Government, time to change the game, that one vote that OBi will get is surly from me

oga leave story, go and try reasoning that to a hungry Nigerian.

he will learn that Hungry Nigerians dont do anything for free

ganisucks:
https://dailypost.ng/2022/06/13/buhari-govt-finally-recognizes-mko-abiolas-deputy-babagana-kingibe-as-vice-president/

somebody that was officially recognised as VP at the same time as Abiola when he was given GCON award by Buhari. GCON is only given to vice presidents, senate presidents etc and GCFR to presidents

Zeezenho:
Obi will have 24 percent in all southern and middlebelt states for sure. Just one or two from core north and it's game over.
Now with very good northern vp he will

they also said Osinbajo would be the annointed candidate and he would trash tinubu if it went to primaries, they said 12 governors were behind osinbajo....in the end he came 3rd, i suspect just as Obi will also come 3rd!!

i dont know what they feed you supporters

kponkedenge:
This election will be regional.

According to the constitution, you have to win at least 25 percent in each geopolitical region to even have a chance at the presidency.

Correct me if I'm wrong....

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You dont need 25% in each region, you need 25% in 25 states or 24 states plus FCT

A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

(a) he has the highest number of votes cast at the election;

and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

Something will give in 2023,

oladaride359:
Dear Intellectual Nigerians, Don't u think is better to have peter obi as Vice president for 8 years than to loose him for 8years. As it is now, Labour party cant win the general election, Parties need to work together, if they want to defeat pdp and Apc .

The assumption is that not having peter Obi as President is a loss to the country. His record in Anambra doesn suggest he is a loss, the man who suceeded him in Anambra has more visible legacy projects than Obi despite alleged corruption.

kponkedenge:
This election will be regional.

According to the constitution, you have to win at least 25 percent in each geopolitical region to even have a chance at the presidency.

Correct me if I'm wrong.... But I don't know how Obi will get 25 percent in places like NW, he may try a bit in the NE and NC.

Also, I don't see how Tinubu will get 25 percent in the SE and maybe SS.

Atiku might just get well above 25 percent in each region.

Well, it's just my opinion though.

Tinubu Awill get 25% in 24 states, there is no danger of that. Tinubu does not need to get 25% in the SE, dont forget you only need 25% in 24 states which means you can afford to have less than 25% in 12 states. In the last election Buhari got 25% in all states except Anambra, Enugu and Rivers, The states where obi can damage APC (in terms of 25%) are in the SE and possibly SS. In 2019, The only states where APC got less than 40% are in those zones, even if he doesnt get 25% in all of the SE and SS, he still has 25 states because there is no way any APC candidate, even if the candidate is a dog, will not get 25% in 25 states of the North and SW even if they dont win all those states. It is Obi that will have a problem with getting 25% in 24 states. if any of the 2 is in danger of not getting 25% in 24 states it is Atiku, because Obi will steal his votes in his SE stronghold though it's hard to say how much damage Obi will do to him there and he got 26% or less in 9 Nothern states and of those 9 he got less than 25% in 7.

Dont Forget there are 17 states in the south and 19 in the North, so the 25% favours APC and disadvantages Obi before the race even starts. Dont forget the NW which is APC stronghold has the most states (7) of all the zones and SE Obi's stronghold has the least (5)


BTW you dont need 25% in each region, you need 25% in 24 states

Indispensable85:
MikoB will have something to say about this. Lol....... Osinbajo was one of those who desperately craved for the anointing oil to fall on him but it never fell. If I was him, I would've stepped down at that point to preserve some respect instead of being battered in that manner at the convention. They set him up for disgrace.

You wont be hearing from MikoB again, the guy has boasted and insulted too many people, pretending to be what he is not, for him to show his face ever again on nairaland.

gambia:
His supporters are not helping him at all.

in fact his supporters are his biggest problem

Realist12:
I guess it's only southern youths that are pushing the campaign on social media.

Go to twitter and hear what Northerners are saying, you will know Obi has no chance in the North. if educated Northerners wont vote for him, he has no chance will the multitude.

Freebills12:
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Do you listen to yourself! How of these Muslims are bent on killing the Christians have been prosecuted? Do you know that punishment for a crime makes others not to commit it. A Muslim /Muslim ticket spells doom for Christians, their rights will trampled on, those that killed Deborah Samuel were charged with offence of public disturbance. In your world it is okay, maybe because you are a Yuroba and your kinsman is contesting. If there is nothing wrong with Muslim /Muslim ticket why won't he use a Christian?

how many christians that killed christians on a daily basis have been prosecuted, the christians that killed a pregnant muslim and her children have they been prosecuted? Did you not see the killers of that woman in Ondo sentenced to death, did you not hear the perpertrators of owo have been arrested but Christians are protecting killers of Muslims and fellow Christians in the East.

Abeg stop quoting me, this is monday Go and vote for your peter Obi and leave us to vote our choice, Its a democracy, good luck to whoever emerges.

Aufbauh:
Jokers


The labour party doesn't even have a whole Governorship candidate in States like kano, Katsina, Kaduna, Jigawa, Bauchi etc.
If you don't understand what that mean then Congratulations!

its amazing that a movement is born out of i have 2 shoes, I carry my bag, I eat with the poor, My son has no car, I saved money etc etc and very little about what is your legacy, what did you actually accomplish when you were a governor?

PresidObi:
We need a good manager of resources to manage our country and the power sector, we need a good economist who will genuinely invest in the power sector with honesty and transparency.

The national grid will never collapse again if Peter Obi is the president.

Vote Peter Obi for president.

What did he do in Anambra? A man who could not even get a 3rd class but instead could only get a pass degree in Philosophy is the person. You are calling economist?

Freebills12:
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Hmm seems like you have justified the saying of wolf in sheep clothing. You are no Christian if you can't stand for justice and fairness. What kind Christian are you if you? Are you so blind to the plight of Christians in Nigeria? Are you telling me you don't see the mass killing of Christians and injustice melted on them. What kind of Catholic or Anglican are you? Don't u know what is distributive justice? You think a Muslim/ Muslim ticket in a country of 50% Christian is appropriate?

Guy please don’t be daft! Try and engage your brain. How does a Christian president or even Christian occupying all 4 top positions stop the killing of Christians? Are the bandits going to say all of a sudden ahh Na Christian dey there now I, make we stop killing. Was it not under Jonathan a Christian that Chibok happened? Secondly? The people they are killing in the North aren’t they Muslims too, Na only Christian dem they kill? Your brains are diseased!!!!

You call me a liar because you have been programmed by your private jet loving, tithe spending pastors not to question them. Was it not under Peter Obi that SARS killed many Christians and dumped their bodies in the river. Did he go to Obiano and say how can you appoint this same SARS commander as your CSO?

Stop this nonsense abeg. Do what you want to do but don’t play the religion card with me. That o am a Christian does not mean I should betray the brain God blessed me with. Having a brain and being a Christian are not mutually exclusive contrary to the way you Pentecostals practice Christianity.

In the last 23 years, a Muslim has been governor of Lagos for 18 yrs how many Christians have died in Lagos at the hands of Muslims? In that period all governors in the SE have been Christians how many people have been killed by Christians especially Anambra? How many Christians are killed every day in Anambra today by Christians? Are unknown gunmen Muslims? Are they not killing Muslims in Kaduna despite a Muslim Muslim executive?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/05/kidnappers-kill-kaduna-boy-after-collecting-n5m-ransom/

https://observerstimes.com/2021/12/15/breaking-kidnappers-kill-kaduna-lawmaker/

Are the 2 victims above Christians?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/beheading-of-anambra-lawmaker-why-we-commended-dss-arrest-of-suspects-―-inter-society/

Was it Muslims that beheaded the Anambra law maker?





Yeye dey smell!!

Freebills12:
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They didn't give Christian VP then it's senate president and speaker... Apart from Osibanjo is their any other Christian among the first four? Wake up from sleep, I know you are not a Christian, if you people can kill because someone insults Muhammad who is ordinary human being how then would you people react if your religion is nationally insulted by a ruling party. We are not talking about mass killing of Christians when the VP is a Christian what will happen when there is non, for sure both senate president and speaker will not reach them... A bird at hand is better than....

Why would I call myself a Christian if I am a Muslim. Can you call yourself a Muslim because of internet argument or politics?

I really pity Nigerian Pentecostal Christians. I’m all seriousness, forget about elections, you guys are so brain dead hardly have 1 IQ left to share amongst yourselves. You have no idea the damage your pastors have done to your brain cells…. I am a Christian, I can say it because my Christianity doesn’t dumb me down!!!

mdshell:
1: You haven't mentioned the insult from my comments yet but you keep shouting up and down.

2: You have decided to vote your CORRUPT POLITICIANS.

What else do you want? Go ahead! It's your right to vote. Period!

Actually I just realized it wasn’t you who called Tinubu supporters Zombies, for that I apologize, sometime you get confused who one is responding to when multiple people quote you.


That said it would be nice for you to list your candidates record in office. I still maintain a clean man with no track record or a poor track record is worse especially at this stage of our country than a corrupt man who has the capacity and a verifiable track record.

mdshell:
1: You haven't mentioned the insult from my comments yet but you keep shouting up and down.

2: You have decided to vote your CORRUPT POLITICIANS.

What else do you want? Go ahead! It's your right to vote. Period!

Actually I just realized it wasn’t you who called Tinubu supporters Zombies, for that I apologize, sometime you get confused who one is responding to when multiple people quote you.


That said it would be nice for you to list your candidates record in office.

mdshell:
The records as a governor are there BUT you chose to argue blindly. I wish you all the best. Go and vote your corrupt and moneybags politicians next year. More sufferings for the entire country when they are done raping this country. Goodnight

Let us know, I am not the only one on Nairaland. I will never vote Obi but you can convert someone else. List his achievements if you have any to list! You have none!!! It’s all noise. Abuse you can abuse, list his achievements in 8 yrs as governor, you make excuses and disappear. All of you do it, it’s not just you. List his achievements, none of you can!!!!

Let me remind you that anyone can go to ordinary Wikipedia and gather stats, it doesn’t make you a good manager or a wealth creator. All it means you have a good memory and a gullible audience!!!!

mdshell:
Mr Assumption and accuser of brethren, continue. I can see ordinary English is now an insult to you. No wahala. Vote your corrupt politician next year. Don't wail later.

This is what happens to all Obi supporters, when you get down to the issues, Defend his record of this man they are selling, they run away! I put it to you, that the reason you are insulting people up and down is because you have nothing you can sell. You don’t need a microscope to see that behind all the hype there is nothing but hot air, sweet mouth, ethnic jingoism sand an ignorant gullible youth. The same endsars youth that ironically still cannot explain Peter Obi’s role in the notorious sars killings in Anambra. Probably the most notorious Of all the SARS killings, happened under him the commander of that unit became CDO to Obiano. These are the issues!!!!

Stop insulting people, market your guy peacefully. We are not bothered about Obi, Obi is good for us. But don’t push it because we have his number.