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Tayo-D. Relax! Do you know that you are redefining the word 'rich'? Good contribution from rica indeed and I will like to corroborate his submission by just taking a look at the dictionary meaning of the word RICH

Adjective: rich (richer,richest) rich
Possessing material wealth
"her father is extremely rich"; "many fond hopes are pinned on rich uncles"

Having an abundant supply of desirable qualities or substances (especially natural resources)
"blessed with a land rich in minerals"; "rich in ideas"; "rich with cultural interest"
http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?w=RICH

In no place was it related to ability to meet needs or wants. Thats perhaps a paraphrase and not the general meaning of the word. By inference, it can be concluded that Jesus was not rich. If someone who has goodwill anywhere he goes and never starves, not because he has money to feed himslef or buy his clothes but his goodwill brings enables people to promptly come to his aid, will you say such an one is rich?

I do not think so.

jerrymania:
i sometimes see it this way: God pronounced judgement on the earth,total anihilation, in the midst of the Arch-angels and his Angels. But Jesus came forth from the midst of the Angels to trade himself for us, because through him we were created. It deeply grieved God that he made a decree that whosoever believe in his Son been scarificed for our sake will have eternal life. guess i'm out of sight right?

For that boldened portion, i beg to disagree. We see a very similar analogy in the book of Exodus. (See Exodus 32:10-14) I will paraphrase this scripture for a better understanding. God was wrath with the Isrealites cos He considered them to obstinate. He therefore told Moses that He wass going to consume them due to his anger and make a 'new' great nation out of Moses.

Moses refused and 'managed' God saying what will the heathen nations say when they hear that the same God who led the Isrealites out of Egypt has destroyed them? They might say that He could no longer sustain them and hence, had to destroy them. He therefore asked God t orepent of that evil he was planning to do. The bible says, God changed His mind and was no longer angry. Moses was a kind of Jesus. Like you admitted, Jesus intervened and God changed His mind.

God is always happy when intercessors present themselves. Abraham interceeded for Sodom and Gomorrah in like manner.

Now Jesus said something in particular concerning his coming to the earth:

John 18:37; Pilate thereforee saith unto Him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, thou sayest that i am king. To this end, was I born, and for this cause I came into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone that is of the truth heareth my voice

OlowoTee:
cgift and ricadelide! You people should leave my brother alone jo! . just kidding lol. . .


@Backslider
But why did you leave? How is your Christian faith now and do you mind to disclose where you are now? Pardon my curiosity. I once read some of your mails wherein you said so many things about your spiritual state, blah blah blah. . , . .?? . Maybe you can holla my YM ID olowoyeye_t@yahoo.com.

All the best anyway.

Waiting for the day he will change His screename to Frontslider

janami:
Jesus was very rich. He did not need an investment to keep Him in supply because He knew that with just a word he cld get anything He desired ps91

I agree with you 1000%

He has no colour

combatant:
May Allah increases your knowledge (Amin)

What has he said? Nuffin! If this is your best scholar, then you people have no hope.

Age-full Ola,

I am beginning to come to terms with your style of engagement. I can see that you really find it hard to digest anything a bit complex. Yt, there is no complexity in this matter. It is just that your mind has been sired with hot iron such that you can no longer comprehend some basics.

They have asked you three asic questions, you effaced them all. In addition to Pilgrim's questions I ask;

~ Was Allah in existence before Mohammad was born?

Now to your posts:

olabowale:
@Pligrim.1: My Queen. Iyawo mi ole sako simi bo nse nse yi. And she is my olori. Stop that queen Bee nonsense. You want to discuss. Go ahead. You are not directing traffic here. Definately, not mine.

Muhammad (as), by defination of what is in the Qur'an, has provided us a different Jesus, than what you have in the Bible.
Stark differences: The One in the Qur'an, is not God. Not son of God. Not 1/3 God.

We have always known that our Jesus is diffenret from the one given in the quran. Your prophet was supposed to come and continue from where the earlier prophets stopped without making a distinction of one from the other. But what do we have, in your own words :STARK DIFFERENCES. So who is contradictory if not Allah?

Now, let me ask you, How can you then make real the qust by your prophet that you consult the people of the book whenever you have teething problems understanding or comprehending Mohammad's or Allah's messages?

You claim our book is corrupt or better still in your confusionist state, lost right? Did Allah or his propht not know that that was going to happen before giving such 'futile' assignments?

As regards, corruption, Allah had said in the quran that no on can alter the words of Allah in the Torah nd other books that he (Allah) revealed right? so why then do you find it difficult to give us the originals that Allah must hav preserved? Is it possibl that Allah does not have a strong room for these books he claimed to have released? So many questions begging for answers uncle! If you can't provide answers, that adds a feather to my cap in saying that Allah must be dead.

olabowale:
He spoke to defend his mother's honor, even as a babe.

Only shows the peverted writings like that of the gospel of Barnabas that Mohammad must have read. There is no where it is written that Jesus ever talked as a babe in the bible.

olabowale:
He preached the Oneness of God Allah, the Almighty. He prostrated his face to Allah, his Lord, Muhammad's Lord and yours and mines. He defined his messengership, only to the children of Israel. He foretold of a future messenger of God, the personage of Muhammad as Ahmad. He was not killed. He was not crucified. He revealed what the children of Israel stored up in their houses. He asked God to send a complete table of food (dinner), from heaven as a sign of his prophethood, when his core companions requested for that specific sign. He gave all the glories to his God. He told his nation, the BaniIsrail, to worship God alone, their Lord and his Lord, and not to associate any partnership, in that worship. He said whoever does not worship God alone, paaradise is forbidden to that a soul, the soul that will abide in hellfire for ever. Please dispute any of the above, from the Qur'an! And do you have any of these in the Bible?

If Jesus of the quran is one of the 'accepted' prophets of Islam, then i have a serious issue with you people. Why is the Jesus of the quran very much different from Mohammad if they are from the same God or Allah? the Jsus of the quran never killed or maimed did he? He did even performed miracles? Hee must have being an ambolishment of love I presume. But why is Mohammad remarkedly different? Beats my imagination. COuld a single source of spring water spew out both hot and cold water at the same time? Can Allah be peacful and loving in Jesus but more dastardly, barbaric and overtly inhumane or dehumanising in Mohammad? Are you sure there is no problem here?

olabowale:
The Mary I know, is not venerated as Mother of God. This alone is enough as an answer.

Your brothers in the Catholic church trained Mohammad at some point. That was how he got the message of the trinity all screwed up! Please do not just pile up loads of rubbish by just bringing irrelevances. We have severally tackled out RCC brethren of the herecies they have. If you have a modicum of respect and honour still left, I would not expect you ever to bring up catholic doctrines or dogmas when discussing with us again.

olabowale:
The Bible (TORAH, SABUUR and INJIIL), that the Muslims are refering to are these three revelations, exactly as they were revealed to the prophet that receive the revelation. At the time of revelation, when the prophet was still alive to guarantee the authenticity of what he received. And that goes on until, just before the first foreign element was brought into it. From the point of the first foreign element into any of the revelations, it becomes diluted and not 100% pure anymore. This process of dillution continues throughout the ages, until, you have so many information, that it is impossible to differentiate, the wheat from the shafts. What Muhammad is been told by Al Rahman is that the Bible (The three revealed Books that comprised it), are diluted, sometimes before the beginning of his messengership. The dilution, of each book, however began sometimes after each prophet had left the stage. So to answer your question, the Bible we believe in is the one at sometime, in the past, before Muhammad, say at the time of each prophet, being alive, when receiving the revelation and prior to it being polluted.

The only reason why Allah could not keepo his words of preventing a dilution of the bible is SHEER INCOMPETENCE! Wait a minute! If what we call the bible is not Allah was referring to, then produce the original bible that your Allah in his 'sovereignity (?)' preserved. They probaby could be in the Kaabal!

olabowale:
I have shame and you know it. I am very bashful. You are the one who misbehaving.

Probably a scintilla! Any more misdemanours will confide you to the inglorious hall of sham & dishonour

olabowale:
Aburo, Aburo. Oni suru. Agidi e poo ju. You contadict yourself, to much. You quote Gospel of selected people. Yet, from your Bible, there were 12 Apostles. Lets take Judas out of it, we still have 11. Yet you are quoting 4, at best. 4 in 11, is less than 40%. What happens to the 60 plus %? They do not have any recollection of his wonderful performances? No wonder he called them people of little faith! Then am surprised that we have to result to the Bullying action of a second generation man called Saul/Paul!

Only a kindergarten could have built this house of ordinary sand.If all of Mohammads followers had each written their own versions of Mohammad's life, guess your contradictions would have been worse of!

olabowale:
What happened to the Gospel of Jesus, which he preached about the places he went? Aburo, dami lowun! I keep my words. have you with me?

Look at yourself in the mirror, can you see the big knowledge gap needing to be filled? What did you expect to happen to The Living Word of God? He preached and signs and wonders accompanied his words. How I wish I can say the same of Mohammad and Allah is errand spirit.

olabowale:
John 10;30 and 12;45, kind of disagree with each others position. The first claimed they they are one, as in 2 in 1 package. The second shows that there is a master slave/servant relationship, in play. The master sends the subordinate to errant or mission a particular purpose. I always answer to my father's name. Even his father's name. How then that Jesus was on the cross, dying that he cried my God, my God, why (questioning) has thou forsaken me? Please correct me, if there was no yell/cry? Aburo, check your Bible.

No need to even respond to this ignorant post. If I were you, I would rather see how I can reconcile with Jesus that is said to be coming back. Cant you see that you guys just have a book that contradicts you severally? I know you would have wished that Jesus was not mentioned in the QUran at all!

olabowale:
Jesus son of mary, the massiah of the children is free of all the christians say about him. The christians exagerated his position, hence embellishing.

Jesus is also clear of all the lies of the jews against him. For they refused to acknowledge him.

He is coming back. He is coming to take his beloved home. You still have an opportunity to repent so that He can forgve your sins.

olabowale:
About your pedophilia statement, you have to put everything in context of all the possible variables. Then you come to your own conclusions
For example, I ask people all the time if Abu bakr had any new children after he had entered Islam? Being the first adult male that accepted islam in the first year, one can begin to know the true story from there onward.
To simply lue outright, because one is trying to score a point is deceitful and shameful, in all normal sense of it al

What context, you are boxed in a coner and you therefore try to defend the indefensibl. You wont make sense trying to defend what is absurd! urine on your cloth confines you to hell. Yawning means the devil is fanning you, drinking camels urines, mountains dropping as pegs to stabilise the earth, etc., only shows that your Allah is not knolwedgeable.

How could a prophet have married a 6 yr-old? How? I dare ask you a question. Why did Mohammad end up with 22 wives when he limited you people to just four (4)? He was surely filled with lust and obsession and sexual perversion. Even to have collected the wife of his adopted son alone shows you that he was only lewd and carnal.

Again, when I look at the duaghters of Allah in relation to the satanic verses, I just marvel. Allah (if he exists) and Mohammad together have been the biggest fraud that ever happened to man only to come and dehumanise man and make him blow up himself in expectation of virgins, wine and wealth in an afterlife he will never enjoy.

God have mercy.

Backslider:
@ olowotee

Thanks for answering for me.

In that case, if Backslider has confirmed that we can be multimillionaires doing legit businesses ans still be christians, I think that puts paid to the issue Forget about whether Jesus was rich or poor jare.

Backslider:
@Pilgrim1

Well please Just tell me of all the tribe of Judah why was it that the Lord name it after men.

Or of the disciple of Jesus who was a woman?

The word "disciple" refers to a "learner" or "follower." The word "apostle" refers to "one who is sent out." While Jesus was on earth, the twelve were called disciples. The 12 disciples followed Jesus Christ, learned from Him, and were trained by Him. After Jesus' resurrection and ascension, Jesus sent the disciples out (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8 ) to be His witnesses. They were then referred to as the twelve apostles. However, even when Jesus was still on earth, the terms disciples and apostles were used somewhat interchangeably, as Jesus trained them and sent them out.

There was no woman at all!!!!!!!

Hey! Backslider, watch it! While it is true that women were seldomly used, it does not connote a relegation. God is no racist or whatever you call one who discriminates against gender. Afterall, He created them both as we have it in Genesis that Male & Female, created He them.

There might be lame explanations for men featuring in most of these scenes such as men being very strong physically, and more stable emotionally e.t.c. and that all these things might help a man's spiritual consecration and concentration, there might not be cogent spiritual explanations for such choices at least to us humans except a more advanced revelational knowledge.

Backslider:
Do you see the similarity 12 disciples and 12 tribes named by Men no woman.

The day a child is named after a woman that day is the evil day

How do you mean by this? Hope you do not connote that women are evil?

Uncle Ola!

Ok. I apologise. I wont again let any 'seemngly foolish' post ignite unruly words from me towards you or anyother. I am sorry.

My premises in saying Allah is dead are these:

1) It has been confirmed that Allah cannot perform miracles. Our own Jesus who lives forevermore (as attested to by your quran) continues to perform wonders at the us of His name by His children.
2) Allah, like i said in an earlier post of mine was not introduced by Mohammad. Mohammad met Allah oon earth. You would agree with me that Allah was one of the very many gods of the pagan nations back then that is identified with the crscent moon symbol. Allah is otherwis known as the moon god.
3) It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located. If Allah had earthly daughters, he must have died and we do not read of resurrection of that Allah that died that has now being deified.

Which word? The guy just yearned dust! Opata!. Nada!

His conclusion is not fertile. He carries two books and is confused as to which is right or wrong. How I'm I sure he can even read ? Why dont you go a step further and demonstrate through your scholarship, the on which is right or wrong? That's the only way yu would have added value.

Cheers!

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=3643.msg1676170#msg1676170 date=1194959361]Dear cgift,

Please, try to refrain from caving in under the pressure to cast aspersions on 'Allah'. We may not agree with Muslims in their convictions about the career of Muhammad; but we can demonstrate the reality of Christ living in us by not stooping to the unfortunate level of freely ridiculing 'God' directly. I would rather present incontrovertible FACTS to the Muslim by discussing issues from both the Bible, Qur'an and Hadiths, than by joining them in their rascal behaviour.

May God's blessings keep your heart rejoicing all day in Jesus. [/quote]Dear sis, I understand. I understand. I understand.

Many thanks,

How is work going?

We all know He was rich in heaven but he was porr on earth! Haba! Why would a physically or materially rich being look for a fish before being able to pay taxes? He was not 'rich'. To be rich is not to be comfortable. Riches transcends just being comfortable unless we are deceiving ourselves.

He was not materialistic so he could not have being rich.

Backslider, answer my deeper life question?

One more thing:

If the submission of a woman is expected in marraige and marriage is supposed to mirror the Church, why shouldn't the submission of the woman be expected in the church - I mean, the Pastor Mrs. should have a 'reporting' line or something that would show her submissiveness in the church though she plays very active roles.

Another thing:

God can usee any body at any level in any dimension be it a man or a woman. Most Men of God can hardly stand beside Kathryn khulman when it comes to the level of aunction that she carried during her ministry. However, that is not to say that God cares less about gender. He does a whole lot but is notlimited by it.

If not, why didn't Jesus come as a woman? Or why did he not have a woman amongst His disciples or better still, the deacons that were first chosen prior to Paul's ministry, why no woman? He does care about gender but is not limited by it!

Not too sure especially if there is no man at all like a pastor who would direct the rder of things. For me, there must be a man probably her husband who should be the head but she can have a very active role especially if she is a prophetess or something.

Ezinwannem:
i live and school in Canada and trust me, i wont trade diz place with anywhere, it is an all rounded place

omo,

what of the cold

Omo, i b first. Bin first no be beans at all.

My challenges for instance:

You must (as much as God gives you grace) provide exemplary leadership, support heaviliy financially especially where parents are not bouyant enough for fees etc. Live life with good morals if you want your siblings to have a positive reference to you.

Its all fun as you see your siblings also grow under your influence to become something in life.

Moreover, that position is largely spiritual and of utmost importance to God.

ok then. back to the topic.

Riches should b secondary in christianity and not at the forefront. Lets live the issues of whether Christ was poor or rich and focus on what the scriptures teach about our welfare for today's christians. So what do we have.

Backslider, I will like to ask you, is it not too good for a christian (say a Deeper Life member) to be a multimillionaire today doing legit business?

olabowale:
@Cgift: Evidently, the typical Yoruba christian, which you are, does not know that there are norther Christians. Islam, contrary to the belief of Nigerians, is not a northern Nigerian religion. The religion is not even Arab people religion. These two people are not 100% muslims.

I know Mister! Christains are even dominating the north mor than ever before now. That's why your islamist fundamentals and fanatics are trying to curtail their expansion with the sword.

olabowale:
Unfortunately, you just talk and have no cultural sense. My children, are cultured in a manner that, InshaAllah, will not steal, and there is no fear of them being amputated.

Amen! I do not pray your son should become a thief. Pity those petty thieves that hunger have driven to the edge. was only giving an analogy.

olabowale:
However, in Islam, Allah's mercy is limitless, hence a first time offender is not usually exposed. However, when the type of bad behaviour, like stealing, becomes a second nature of the thief, he becomes careless. Hence, he has no moral compass to distinguish this evil behaviour from what is morally sound. God Almighty, may, if He wills, expose the thief, to be caught, in the act of thievery. The amputees, are not first time offenders. If the Northern Nigerians muslims practise Shariah, properly, there is no blame in the judgements handed down. I do not live in Nigeria and am not a scholar of Islam to seriously comment.

What I know, however, is enough to make me live a relatively honest life. I do not engage in any of the others may engage in. For sure, there is a rule that the Muslims have to follow; it involves in Shariah court, witness and hearing procedure before decisions and carrying out the justice, about any offense.

Where the sharia system is very dumd is that it cannot curtail sins of the mind. An amputee can be a more dangerous criminal than the one who has all his organs intact. Your sharia is just a mirage. Its not effective.

olabowale:
You failed to realise that Jesus himself did not throw any stone at the woman, he used wisdom and mercy from his Lord Allah to extracate, from the peril. Yet the condition of Jesus , all along was that all the laws and rulings given to Moses were to be fulfilled including the littlest of jot! Moses law called for the stoning. So why didn't Jesus stone the woman, himself? Except, there was part of Moses law that allows for mercy and Jesus used that part, which the Jews had always neglected. Afterall, Moses expressed mercy, from his Lord, Allah, toward Pharaoh, for a while, before the drowning at the sea.

Sorry sir! Jesus Himself is full of grace and truth and did not have to 'consult' before forgiving the poor woman. Moses' law could hav called for stoning, it was because God wantd his own dominion and authority established on earth and because he is the author of life, he decides whom to allow and whom to exterminate. Jesus however opened the way and took away th sins of the world and quelled God's anger. We are all now being looked at through Christ's love.

olabowale:
In any case, if Jesus, showed mercy on the poor and helpless woman, it was not Jesus' sole perogative. It was from his Lord, who had instructed him so.

Oh! Allah more often than not refusd to show mercy to 'Infidels'

olabowale:
Muhammad and his supporters, upon conquering Makka, did not visit a wholesale slaughter upon his former arch enemy, who as a people ran him and his supporters out their native city. He declared general amnesty over the city and that has never been equal in the history of mankind! It is a whole city, full of people who had offended him and treated him terribly.

Yet, Muhammad, like Jesus in the Qur'an, was not arrogant and not proud. But gave all the glory th his Creator.

Please do not compare Jesus and MO. Won ki n se egbe rara! They are not mates you hear? Kep praying that peace will go and meet MO in his grave. Jesus on the other hand is the embdiment of peace Himself.

Wake up!

tbk and jerrymania,

why are u guys so vulgar? Plase let peace reign supreme. We want intellectuals comments here not these derogs. Ok? Please sheat your swords.

smile4kenn:
@cgift

E don do for una ohhh

u say wetin? u 4 remember ur calling before u begin misyearn

Carlosein:
i note your "if" above and all i can say is "kpele omo ma kpa ara re sho gbo", because we know he did not die

after "chanting Mary my mother, mary my mother" .

Carlos,

You Mary-worshipper Call on the name of Jesus alone and you shall be saved.

Just pray for them that God will preerve their livs to see your success in life.

cheers!

davidylan:
Allah is alive?
How do you know allah is alive since neither you nor mohammed will ever see him either here on earth nor in jaanat? How do we prove that allah indeed is alive or that he even exists?

Full of power?
What power? Where are his miracles? Where did he raise the dead? Where did he heal the sick? where did he transform the infidels WITHOUT the use of the sword? How can he be full of "power" and yet needs his followers to kill those who reject islam? Has he no "power" to save?

At least everyday we see and perform miracles in the name of Jesus. Someone, who frequently usd the name of Jesus to do exploits even tried to using allah in place of Jesus Christ. You know what ? It didnt work! Very dead god indeed

Carlosein:
and madam cgift, which church you dey attend now, u been no tell us.

That means you do not take time to read through people's rejoinders. I stated my church therein but what has that got to do with you? Will you detail men to come and do some uncover for sometime and give you feedbacks?

lawyer:
Beside yaradua is a chain smoker, so i don't see this suit seeing the light of the day. All bat needs to do is assure him of a lifetime supply of benson free and the case is dead and buried

lawyer. you don block yaradua for club before?

olabowale:
@Ricadelide: Paul this, Paul that! haba, my brother! Is there anything Jesus himself said? You people are using his name to cover your religion. Yet you use, almost exclusively another man's writing to define that religion!

The boldened: On what? Jesus said and did everything! What exactly do you want?

olabowale:
Wow. The Aborishas are even ashamed to use Onishogos ideas of worship rituals to conduct their own worship. Yet, recadelide, you do not open your minds eyes to see how far away you have missed the mark of reality! Jesus has nothing, zero, zilch, nada, to do with christianity.

Fine! Paul is a torn in your side. Good for you. You can do nothing about it but to help you, post one thing that Paul said that you think contradicts the tachings and the sayings of Christ. If there is any, then I will stop countering your arguments immediately and reduce the security alert level I have placed on Moslems.

To however show your forgtfullness, why do you then reference the hadiths knowing fully well that all the sayings are not of Mohammad? You can see how inconsistent you are.

olabowale:
Even if you change your religion name to Christ or Jesus or Messiah. This will still not help the case with God ALmighty. The case of Jesus with his Creator is already defined, before Jesus was created. Stop all the nonsense.

Tell me how you think the followers of Jesus of the quran (not the bible this time) should behave. I want to know. What should they be called also?

olabowale:
@Cgift: I will not dignify your statement. Personally, how many Olabowales do you know amongst the Yorubas? This is a very rare name. I could easily provide a similar makeup name as you have. Your name does not identify you. Oruko ma nro ni. Ask your elders in your family. You are not God and my hope is totally on my Creator!

Riches do not guaranty wisdom. Get Gd's wisdom, its a better defence than ola

olabowale:
Unlike you, who is banking on a mere mortal, who was powerless to defend himself in the hands of ragtag Yahud, Jews! Yet he yelled as he was giving up the ghost. Read your Bible and then think. Then in the future don't write without putting your innerworking to proper use.

That was his mission on arth. To die. He felt pains because he was human as well. May god open your eyes to see.

olabowale:
Allah is Alive, full of Power, always without being under conditions that your dead god is. I do not worship creations, be it angels, prophets with two parents, or one, or none at all! Nothing except GOD ALMIGHTY. I am walking softly, but I have big stick in my hand. I am muslim. From Ijebu Ode.

Whats the big stick for? FYI, Allah is dead but lives in the consciouness of muslims. Allah cannot do a single miracle! not one is recorded in the quran! Very dead god. Call on the name of Jesus and see what it can do for you.

olabowale:
How then you are saying all these things? Tell me from the Bible, what should be the response of the community to illegal sex, even though consentual, what about sex-attack, stealing when there is no need ti do that, what about any form of immorality? Just one!

Sorry my guy. I am deeply sorry to disappoint you. Oh! Your reasoning is that any religion where there is no jungle justice on day-to-day issues of life is not a true religion. Mohammad must have vomitted you from his belly cos you are probablty as violent as he was. Now I'm afraid, you might be the one to call for the hads of nairalanders who oppose Islam!

Your allah may allow jungle justice (Sharia), our God does not. They brought a woman caught in the act of adultery to Jesus for sentencing. What did he do, he asked them who amongst you without a sin should cast the first stone. They all withdrew one after the other from first to the last. None could! Jesus did not condemn her. He delivered her! What a great grace! Unmatched in history!

He came to set free! Not to condemn and put in bondage. He came for love not hate. Men got their dead brought back to life. Not the other way round. He preached love and repentance from evil and sin. What is the hope of a sinner in Islam? Nothing but death, punishment! What evil religion is that? You steal and they amputate your arm - in this 21st Century? Cant you just reason for once and agree that your religion belongs to the cave men and not the modern man? Cant you see that your religion is so uncivilised. We preach peace, love to the sinner, you preach death and condemnation. May be when your son steals and they amputate his arm or leg then you will feel it!

Our Jesus is LOVE. God is LOVE! He Loves! Let that sink into your spirit. He loves you too! With all the amputees you have in the north of Nigeria, how has that reduced iniquity or crime? Cant you se you are just deceiving yourselves and punishing the poor who have no connections to stop that evil they call sharia? Ola, please dont tell me you are that barbaric. Islam and Sharia should just be annihilated. The time of their destruction shall soon come. God will do this in His time.

For sinners, if that is your concern, Christ said, let the two of them grow together until the time of harvest when he shall separate the what from the shaft. You are not that patient are you?

Well, i dont know about his attention-winng probabilitites but I sure know about Marian worship in the catholic church either inferior of superior. Keep on worshipping an ordinary woman who was sinful during her times on earth.

olabowale:
The writing above is HOGWASH. No surprise there, since you eat Hogs anyway. Catholics is the mother of Protestants. Protestants copied the catholics. If the mother is bad and the child copying har can never fair better. My main man, Yeparipa, leavy Christianity, in all its forms alone. Come to Islam. Don't let my esteem cgift tells you to continue in what he, himself has some disagreement with. This case is like a person who says he hates to eat beef for example, but he uses the stem of beef to eat his fufu. What a hypocrite!

Elder Ola,

You are a sorry case. I don't just know how to describe you. ah! All these your whinings: catholic is the mother of pro, , I think you should take time out to modify your reasonability because often times you have demonstrated that you can't deal with issues 'to ba le ju eko lo' - issues that ar stronger than pap

Catholcism, through the inquisition ruled in many nations as they try to foist on people, theocracy which is a religious form of government like we have in the Vatican City today. They still believe they will spread this anyway and are working assiduosly to make it a reality once again. They have not thrown away the age-long dream.

'Protetanism' had to come alive because many saw the writing on the wall and the greed of the papacy as well as the obvious negation of the teachings of the Christ as laid out in the scriptures. They broke away and doctored their tachings in accordance with the teachngs of Christ as found in the Holy Bible which your Quran revers!

Now they (protestants) have their set of rules or tenets and dogmas which flows from the scriptures directly and contradicts all known heresies of the RCC. So where does your assertions of like mother like daughter come from? May be a simple analogy would straighten you up!

You give birth to a son and by default he is a muslim because the parents are. Now the son grows up and discovers the truth in Christ and relinquishes Islam and continues in Christinaity. When taking a roll call of muslims, do you count him because his parents are muslims? NO! He has defected and now practices christianity. He no longer faces the east to pray, he is no longer under compulsion to observe his five times prayer, he no longer sees flies in his cup nither does he expect women, wine and other vices in his afterlife. In order words, he is no longer a muslim. He was! But not anymore.

Protestants have always and will always negate Catholicism's herecies. So drop that you mother-daughter trauma in the hole in the kaaba! Wake up to reality!

Now look at you trying to win soul for dead Mohammad! What is the attraction to Islam now? No frills, no thrills, just blank religion only replete with racism, murder and immorality. Ta! What an invitation!

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HO-R-US,

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