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Oby1:
Today's saint grew up in an important family in 16th-century Spain, serving in the imperial court and quickly advancing in his career. But a series of events—including the death of his beloved wife—made Francis Borgia rethink his priorities. He gave up public life, gave away his possessions and joined the new and little-known Society of Jesus.

Religious life proved to be the right choice. He felt drawn to spend time in seclusion and prayer, but his administrative talents also made him a natural for other tasks. He helped in the establishment of what is now the Gregorian University in Rome. Not long after his ordination he served as political and spiritual adviser to the emperor. In Spain, he founded a dozen colleges.

At 55, Francis was elected head of the Jesuits. He focused on the growth of the Society of Jesus, the spiritual preparation of its new members and spreading the faith in many parts of Europe. He was responsible for the founding of Jesuit missions in Florida, Mexico and Peru.

Francis Borgia is often regarded as the second founder of the Jesuits. He died in 1572 and was canonized 100 years later.

Oby1,

I understand perfectly the religious zeal adherents usually have when it comes to "defending"their religion. It is good but I tell you, ensure you know all truths first. Of the Jesuits you just mentioned that St. Francis joined , its another kettel of fish entirely. But let me chip this in: and see particularyl the words of (Napoleon hope you know him, the major actor behnd World War 1)

"About the Jesuits, we would do well to meditate on the words of Napoleon recorded in his memoirs, the Emperor having been betrayed into the hands of his captors by his Jesuit masters, while imprisoned on the island of St. Helena in the middle of the South Atlantic Ocean:

"The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is POWER. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man,

"The General of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may, Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general."

And make no mistake about it, Kolvenbach's present day plans are deadly. His evil knows no bounds. And, according to Phelps, he truly is the missing "evil link" when it comes to fully understanding how and why America is turning into a fascist state and being used as a second Nazi Germany.

Normally when thinking of the New World Order, one immediately refers to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300, composed of the 17 wealthiest "elite" families, the Rothschilds in England, Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada.

But when it comes to adding the Jesuits in the mix, most people brush them aside, thinking they are just another benign and innocent Catholic order of priests in robes, saying Mass, serving the poor and spreading the word of God.

But think again. Behind the veil of the good lies evil, behind the veil of the diety lies a deadly band of Luciferian followers who are deviously controlling all the most powerful religions and governments in the world, including Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

And according to Phelps, religious researcher and historian and working on Vatican, all the above statements are fact not fiction, as the Jesuits truly are "the evilest of all evils" and the quintessential masters of deception.

"It's just staggering the amount of control the Jesuits really wield throughout the world," reminds Phelps who provides a chart of the Order's corrupt power on his web site at www.vaticanassassins.org.

See the link below for more info:

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/illuminati-jesuit.htm.

Oby1, its the love of God that has made you seen these things, everywhere you turn to concerning RCC, all you see is Satanism, Luciferans, and Secrecy. Call your closest priests and make them see all these things, he will open up to you and warn you never to let anyon know what you have learnt about the church. Do not just hold on to a blind faith. I beg you in the name of God

We actually never intended ridiculing RCC, far from it, it is just to present to you a good basis for your arguments. You cant argue what you do not know anything about, it will only be preposterous.

dreamnaira:
Pilgrim.1

I saw you to be one of the heralds of final gospel, let your prayer be; God lead me to know all the truth. If you allow the spirit of God to do its work in your life without allowing self- understanding, and you totally surrender your will to Him, this words will come to pass in your life.

Well, i do not understand what you by "all truth" but i dont think it is possible to know all truth. Only God reserves the right to have "all truth" thats why the bible says that "Secret things blong to God but [b]those [/b]that are revealed, are for our benefits {paraphrased - Deut. 29:29}. So let us seek to dig the ones that have been revealed and ensure ther are no deviations from them. No matter the truth that would be revealed in the future, it cannot contradict the Word of God. That's the truth you must come to terms with. There is no knowledge elsewhere that can invalidate the truth about God's 2nd commandment concerning the making and worshipping of statutes. So your "all-truth" message does not hold water here.

But wait a minute, perhaps we should ask you, make known to us, some portions of the "all-truth" you have that will legitimise the obvious fallacies and heresies of the RCC leadership in Rome. We are waiting. I am sure it is this qust for "all-truth" that has led the RCC into several heresies and claming some traditions are grater than bible,

seeu:
Thes people claim that Vaticans are hiding many things from billions of catholics worldwide and Catholics doesn't know, but my question is, how did they come to know and post them here hence Catholics doesn't know the secrets? However, the Protestants knows everything but Catholics doesn't know what the Pope and the bishops are hiding from us. Woe to you protestants!

If i say i am surprised at this outburst, it wont be true. Rather than face real issues, you are chasing shadows. You seem to revel in your ignorance about your church. Let me help you with information disclosure.

The following reasons explains why news about the deep secrets of the RCC is commonplace:

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[li]Many priest who have spent decades in the church having realised that they are on the verge of selling their souls to the devil especially when it was time to join the Oblates (go and find out what that means in the RCC) got to find out that they are dining and accommodating the greast vices. They jet out and tell the world the rot inside which they hav been privy to.[/li]
[li]Christ has said that there is nothing hidden that shall not be hidden whether good or bad.[/li]
[li]Christ has prospects for salvation for many members of the RCC and would ensure he reaches out to them.[/li]
[li]For those who have not decided to be subservient and docil to the antics of their priests, they have engaged their minds and snatched it from the hands of the pope. Hence, they ar able to see things as they are.[/li]
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This is no snipe but what would be your reaction somebody says he is 'God' on this earth? But your pope has said it. Are you comfortable with that.

They know that for people who still have their minds within them unlike those who have submitted it to the priests to think for them and give them loads of lies for traditions, the moment they see these things, they would revolt. Hence their reason for hiding them from you.

alliednetw:
Let us not generalise.let's take this argument point for point.
Give me one fallacy lets trash it .That'is if you know what a religious fallacy is.

My friend dont be lazy. Go back to the bginning of this thread right from page 1 and read through. All the issues are there. If you can deal with them, bring thm on. Who would start that all over again?

Thats why you need to hav the bilbe in your head, and then spirit. Thats not all! Writ them on your doorposts, your palms, let them be in ur mobile devices etc. Then let them burn all the bibles, you will still be afloat. First and foremost, nsure you know God thorugh Chrsit personally.

KAG:
I'm just glad I don't share your mindset or "logic" - if there was God I'd be thanking her.

Can c there is no point for further engagement.

All of you look before you leap! ACL, th first qusetion i will ask you is: WHY HAV YOU MADE THE ASSERTION THAT IT IS DUE TO A GNERATIONAL CURSE. We can start from there.

If i can quote Pilgrim,
* The world waits for the last blasphemy that will usher in the expected world-wide persecution
of the saints of God. That blashpemy will come from the Vatican - whether Catholics like it or not.
If you're still in doubt, simply ask the Vatican why they continue to mystify that THIRD SECRET of
FATIMAH!!

That i say is a bombshell. With what i have seen on this forum in the course of our discussions especially since catholics (many of them probably, especially those who do not read their bible and those who read but twist the meaning to a preoposterous end), I can infer that due to their docility[/b]if they are ordered to start killing christians whom they refer to 'infidels', most of them will carry ammunitions to effect the order to the pope (their god) all over the world and may start killing; watch out therefore for those around you. The history of the RCC speaks for itself on this. The RCC may have a good ally in the Islam too!

I for one, have resolved that I will be very wary[b], albeit surreptitiously, of Catholic friends and especially neighbours. Never trust any. I am not racist or whatever you want to call it, it is just being careful and working with your sense having known the belief patterns. You should raise your security watch level to RED for those who are especially deep in it like the priests and bishops. Its just like building a house and telling me to accept an imam asa tenant! I wouldn't because i know that may be a resident evil due to his inclination. Its a pity but its a reality we must face. DO no call me a racist or whatever you are wont to name. Thse people can do anything "in the name of a God (_{I wonder which God?})" Or what do you think of someone who has been told that he shall not be held accountale for a sin which he commits if it is in obedience to a superior authority like a priest.

That's why I am also very wary of a country like USA and the EU. Those who understand prophesy have a deep clue as to what these entities stand for and their roles in ushering in the Antichrist.

HE WHO HAS AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR.

I think at this point, this people have shown that they are indefensible and have nothing to show of their religion. We can only commit the hearts and souls to the hands of God for salvation.

Logically, theologically or any-wise, their beliefs are found wanting on every weight of God's Holy Words and they dare hold onto what is of no substance but proven to be from the very gates of satan!

I know their hearts must hav been pricked at the startling revelations they never bargained for on this board. But its all good. God at his own time will rescue thos He wills.

rumours:
this what the judiciary shld have been doing since!!! Anyway they shld be very care with the Ibo man ooo! B/c one Ibo man lost is equal to 1000muslims (millitant or non-millitant). Rubbish, Fanatics. Cant mohammed or whtever u call him fight for himself?? This was how they slaughtered a yoruba woman with kids, God will punish all those islamic terrorists. Talibans!!!

Ol boy, you dey vex o! Calm down. The thing wan pain you pass the family of the slain?

sergio:
@Dje

Good speech

See them. Birds of a feather, flock together

dje: Whoever says something should think and know what he/she is talking about first.

Any issues of whatever subject should be researched upon before making statements/accusations.

We all think we know everything,right?Whether u b muslim,christian,buddhist,taoist,pagan.

Stick to facts and you we will be in reality.Nairaland members;lets keep it real by knowing(factual and not thinking you do!) whatever we are talking about.

You have just shown your weakness here. All i expected you to have done is to take the 'allegations' one after the other and invalidat them by suprior arguments. Here you are whining and sniveling as is typical of people who have no clues.

Horus,

well that might be where you worship your own annukis or whatever you call them. I haven't seen any catholic cathedral like that my guy. Lets get serious please.

Lt m give you guys an acronymn you can be posting to shrten your typing time:

GTJHTM. We will understand what it means

I want to counsel that their is no pride in continue in an uncertainty or in falsehood. It is the biggest sham having discovered the truth and remain in heresies.

Greatness is seen in a man's ability to accept is rror and correct his ways and its rather folly to remain headlong in journey to the pit.

To my guy from festac,

Well, we might leave that to the theologians to prove. But also consider these categories :

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[li]Sin against the Holy Spirit which the bibl says cannot be forgiven[/li]
[li]Other sins that do not fall into class A[/li]
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So there are classes of sin though the general submission is the scripture you quoted above.

sergio:
Now, that sounds like a kid to me

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They know they do not have a case.

sergio:
davidalyn's issue is different from this, if u claim not to know the implications of this, then i let u in, Nairaland can be banned from operating, because it will be said that it has no rules guiding its users, also, our beloveth seun might be in trouble all because someone could not use his/her brain wisely, brethrens, i don't mean any harm , but i'm saying this in the interest of the forum, please lets apply caution.

You do not now about freedom of information / speech abi? No authority can come and ban nairaland because of people's opinions. Thank God we re not in a muslim state. Under what code of the law will that ban ride upon?

[quote author=gozizi ]HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your God gives you (Exodus 20:12) is the first commandment with a promise from God himself!!- you see how he himself values the paternal and maternal relationship?
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That's preposterous and overtly delusional! I guess when your mother dies, you will make her statues all over the place and start bowing down to it! I guess that's what you call honour!

Thank God you stopped at honour, what of obey? Gozizi, let me ask you two kweshuns (according to pilgrim.1).

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[li]Will you obey your mother if she tells you to go and do something you know is evil? Answer me with all honesty.[/li]
[li]Will you obey your priest/bishop if he/she tells you to go and do something you know is evil? Answer me with all honesty.[/li]
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[quote author=gozizi ]It is therefore the basis of our relationship with our neighbour. You cannot love a person and demean his Mother.[/quote]Says who? and what exactly do you mean by demean. I dont want to quote you out of context.

[quote author=gozizi ]If Jesus was obedient to the law of God, it means even he HONOURS his blessed Mother. Catholics are only copying him.
Glory Glory Glory to Jesus!!!! Honour Honour Honour to Mary!!!!! [/quote]Let me tell you that Jesus had a mind of his own and in the very eyes of the public rebuked his mother just to tell you that she had no power over him or hold any greater love (than the one he has for me) for his mother.

So that fallacy that you are copying him is another subterfuge from your pope whose over 12 titles all equal 666!

sergio:
@ cgift

You have to be careful with what u post here, nigeria is religiously sensitve area, u might be surprised at the type of calamity that what u post here might cause, i am not saying u should'nt express your self but do that in the most professional manner

Careful ko, careful ni!

Cyber-Jihad cant kill . Thank God for forums like this. Let them disprove my claims! shikena!

Good qustion by Somze. Its only people who are deluded that would say Islam is a religion of Peace. In fact, the 'real muslims' in teh north will slay southern muslims when pushed as they consider them not true adherents of Islam and i know they are right.

If your prophet tells you to forcefully convert or kill in the name of religion whtat do you call those who preach peace and still claim they are muslims? Hypocrites. So, the real muslim is commanded to kpai infidels.

Again, islam preaches murder and all forms of lust, Christianity doesn't. The diference is so glaring that ven the blind knows that we do not serve the same God. Their allah existed before Mohammad was born.

A true muslim is the one expected to kill infidels.
A true christain is not xpected to kill 'infidels'

Let any muslim disprove this.

The truth of the matter is, Islam is intolerable to peace. The spirit of violence reigns in them.

I've been reading this from the sidelines. Just to chip in this fact that most of the premise of Jen has been on the church fathers. If I may ask, which Church? Roman Catholic Church? That opens up a serious can of worms as that institution is not of Christ. The papacy (the pope's offic) is not of Christ. Wait and see by the end of days. The Vatican is the office of the Antichrist so dont even use their words to try and discomfit Christ's reality. That church is playing its role of diminishing truth and estalishing falsehood effectively.

The proof of the existence of Christ is not for me to give cos i dont think i can satiate your schlepping appetite. So, please my dear Jen33, go on, revel, merry. Its only a matter of time. Others have done more than this and have become caught in the same Christ's love which they now share though hitherto, disbelieved. Christ can fight for himself and make himself real to you.

Enjoy.

uf4oma:
Rebellion. I knew I shouldn't have married him, but I did. And it ended in divorce.

Oops! Sorry o.

The truth of the matter is; no one knows what sins are grievous and which are not. You will be surrised that bearing fals witness or just lying carries mor weight compared to fornication.

Oby1: Who could have given me our Lord, but the Virgin Mary?

Jesus could have dropped from heaven . Better still, he could have come through another woman and not necssarily Mary You sound so desperate to confer on Mary what she is not. You shall soon say your mary is everything and even go ahead to call her the creator. Such is the blasphemy of the state Vatican City and the Roman Church; the woman (RCC) sitting on the beast (Vatican City). You are only following the footsteps of your father who speaks blasphemies against God.

Oby1: It was easy to pray to her, repetitious though it may seem. Saying the rosary as i did often, i felt that i was praying with the people of God, who held on to the physical act of the rosary as to a lifetime. DOROTHY DAY

This smacks of gross idolatroy! Easy to pray to Mary and not [/b]easy to pray to Jesus. You have been blindfolded completely or bteter still, you may have submitted your thinking faculty to your 'infallible' priests who are just humans like you. The sins in roman monasteries and nunneries is worse than Sodom. Go and ask your nuns (the ones who can confide in you) for the book called "[b]Awful Disclosures". I doubt that they will give you anyway.

Oby1: "Lord Jesus, incarnate Word of God, I pray for all people in this thread, including the heads of nations and of governments.

Have you wondered what part your pope is going to play in the Unholy Trinity that shall be revealed towards the end of days. Have you ever bothered to know the script the papacy is playing to ensure a One World Order that shall later usher in the reign of the AntiChrist? Oh! These things are too much for you because you just can't see or understand them.

Oby1: Open their eyes to the salvation which you gained for them when you suffered and died on the cross.

Your leaders have severally, by their assertions proven that Jesus Christ's death on the cross is of no effect for the members of the RCC. Mary is your Saviour, not Jesus. Come out and declare it and let all these tantrums stop.
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Nushi,

your text is a suspect. We cannot categorically say this is where you belong. How came about your screenname?

Good summary A_K_O

KAG,

those of us who understand and live by prophecy know that it is about Catholicsim. The Word of God has never failed in its fulfilment right from Daniel to Revelation. They have all happened at one point in time or the other. History is there for the records for all to see.

The Vatican is the beast and the LovePeddler of revelation. The papacy is the tool of the antichrist whose over dozens of the so-called official titles all add up to 666, the number of man, the beast whose deadly wound was healed!

It is very simple.

cARLOSEIN,

how you dey. Una dy bone us abi? How family now. Wetin be the maning of your name?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-83554.0.html.

God is God. ebos, oby1, gozizi, et al. Jesus loves you. Run away from the LovePeddler of revelation.

http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm#17

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-83554.0.html.

God is God. ebos, oby1, gozizi, et al. Jesus loves you. Run away from the LovePeddler of revelation.

http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm#17

Check these out~ It corroborates all we've being saying about the papacy.

Obviously, the Catholics on this forum know next to nothing concerning the internal wranglings and workings of the Vatican.

Pilgrim.1, you said it is hundred of millions of dollars that have been used in settling issues of pedophile among the priests, i dare say it is now in Billions. It is only someone whose mind has being seared with hot iron that would remain in that religion called Catholicism. In their article of faith (or what do they call it) on the ten commandments, they have removed the second commandment of God which prohibits bowing down to images and split the last commandment into two to make up to 10.

Isn't that fraudulent? I wonder. In the case of those priests who commit the sexual evils, they are not punished in anyway, but are simply transferred to another parish miles away where he goes to repeat the same things over and over again.

Too bad for this people. I know the ones that are the elect of God among them will not receive the mark. God will work a way of escape for them.

The most often used title of the Pope adds up to 666 (VICARIUS FILLI DEI). People think thes things are co-incidental. They never know it is well-planned. With what i am seeing here, where people have refused to open their eyes in the face of damming evidence, its probably going to be such an easy ride for the anti-christ with them.

God have mercy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_SbJRn5jE8

If you are reading this, remember, you are special in the eyes of christ. You need to get out from among them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_SbJRn5jE8

Juts lets get started.