₦airaland Forum

sonmvayina:
Are you a Babylonian?

Refer to this
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/why-it-matters-that-god-is-yahweh.html

Why don't we call "God" His real name - Yahweh and also call The Messiah - Yahushua?

iamvictorbassey:
I see a lotta peeps saying "All the cash, cars etc will be left behind", like what dafuq was supposed to happen?

Why the heck are Africans like this?

So why then did you go to school? Even opted for Masters after your Degree? Why aiming for a better job? And if you succeed what will you use the money for? On the other hand whatever the hell you choose to use your money for is your damn business.


So we shouldn't aim high because death lurks? You too shouldn't have obtained an education after all death lurks.

Black people ehn? (Face Palm)

You do make valid points. However, I believe they were referring to the way he illegally acquired his wealth (alleged drug dealing and looting) with no positive legacy left behind.

Isn't His real name - Yahushua?

PremierGuy:
Why not invest half of the money in properties or gold that will appreciate in value instead in a car that will depreciate within few years.

The price of gold is at all time high at $1,975 and will surely continue to go up as the world economy is going through recession.

Well said.

Esseite:
If Nigeria's debt increased from $7Bn to $23Bn in 5years with a debt to revenue ratio of about 90%, currently battling with recession alongside depression and world poverty capital, with the future of oil dependent economies not looking so good coupled with our massive appetite for corruption, what is the probability we can sustain a debt repayment of 20years?

A better alternative would have been "Build, operate and transfer" amongst private investors whom would share both the ups and downs of the economy how ever way it goes during the period.. as it is , it's still being run by same corrupt Nigerian Government whom can never be trusted.

Well said.

Razzness:
Typical african mentality. U killed a baby bat that lost it's way home and u are blaming ur imaginary enemies.

On point! Seems the OP doesn't know bats are nocturnal creatures just like owls.

Briells:
Omo... See money! May God help us get to this stage, amen.

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Kobojunkie:
Are his 'children' not God's then?

It seems Adeboye's doctrines are quite different from Yahushua's new testament doctrines.

Kobojunkie:
The have the right to sing that song without paying your GOs wicked tithe because God does not charge tithe for the blessings He made available to them through Jesus Christ. All God continues to ask for is Obedience to actual commandments He has given them, not commandments manufactured by your GOs and other men.

Exactly! Also Adeboye message was for his 'children' which to me means his followers and not to me, you and other enlightened, logical and non-brainwashed individuals who know the truth.

wirinet:
False doctrine. I know you have been conditioned to believe your salvation is tied to tithes. So I don't expect you to see reason concerning it.

Christ did not come to preach tithes, he never required anyone's tithes, he never taught his disciples to preach tithes.

Christianity is about charity, free giving and empathy for the poor and under privileged. It's not bet9ja where wager money in expectations of a jackpot. It only makes the house (bet9ja or pastor/church ) richer, while the people get poor, with some getting addicted to the wagering itself.

You hit the nail on the head.

HARDDON:
Usually, I'd ignore these unnecessary arguments because I believe, as the Bible says, no man that puts his hands into the plough and looks back is fit for the master's use.

That means, if you say you follow God, follow him in all ramifications. Not Selectively. Not when it is convenient. Paying lips service and when a lil challenge to your belief arise, you dock like a drenched rat.
Let your still small voice lead you. Don't drive your car with another's Headlamp. Talk to your God. Ask him questions.

Before I disect your thoughts, let me say that the only thing that contest with God in our lives is marjorly money and because, the fallen man is inherently selfish, he would uphold the saying ;

Touch not my money and do my pocket no harm.

not knowing that the gospel that says seed time and harvest shall not cease as long as the earth remains, can never be broken.
not knowing that with God, the best way to keep is to give out. the best way to lose is to withhold.

He is oblivious to the fact that because he doesn't regard God in tithing, he is creating a hole for the enemy. Holes in form of sicknesses, loss of properties , unexplainable emergencies and the likes.

If we are Christians, we must follow the examples of men long gone.
As Christ said, if you say you are Abraham's children , as you claim, you would do what he did.
He was a tither, a sower, a lover of God and his commandments.

Now, coming to your statement, here is what you didn't know;

1. A TRUE church is not a private properties, hence, it is registered as a non profit organization.
As a registered body, all accounts are usually opened in its name.
It has board members, signatories and accountants.
The sole aim of tithes and offerings is to further the course of the gospel, test our loyalty to God, our protection and divine provision.

True pastors know better than to convert tithes and offerings for personal use.
True pastors that not only preach but practice tithing, offering and sowing, reap and are automatically on the paid roll of God by virtue of Soul winning.
How can someone that God pays by directing even Ravens to provide their needs dip his hands into that that is sacred?
They know better.


This is why you should seek out and attend a Christ believing church.

It is not every shrine you see out there with a Ministry Signpost that you would dive into.
A lot of them are into ocult practices and into it for personal gains.

Rich Regards
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Very difficult to find one. A lot of what I've attended or streamed online are not. They all preach the tithing doctrine which I don't practise.
There are over 613 laws in the old testament, why pick some laws to obey and disregard the others?
Yahushua preached Giving in the new testament especially to the poor and less privileged. That's what I practise.

NairaMaster1:
You asked for correction:

They don't pay tithes to pastor's account. They pay tithes to church accounts.

Some pastors are not even signatory to such accounts.

How can a pastor who sets up a church and registers it won't be the signatory to the church bank account?
Something is not adding up.

sowilli:
many of you miss the mystery of tithing. There are somethings that don’t answer to Gods prayer but God has given nature the power to make them available as long as humans obey the laws. For instance, Imagine if man decides to destroy and kill all the plants in the whole world, will he have oxygen to breathe, even if he prays for a hundred years will he? It’s same with prosperity. It only answers to giving and one of the giving is tithing. If you are opportune with 100 non Christian billionaires, you will find out they all tithe. I have heard Alhaijis bringing millions of into the church. Do you think Dangote visited that pastor when his wife died because of just visit.They have a relationship and many of this rich Muslims tithe. It’s not only Christians that tithe. Don’t bother about what a pastor makes, do your part of the law. The problem is there are fake prophets who are just out for tithes and this abuse. There will always be fake prophets btw. Remember the case of Eli’s sons. Tithing is a law everyone who aspire to be wealthy must obey! Please google Rhonda Byrne ... she is not a pastor

I don't think I agree. There are a lot of wealthy individuals who don't tithe. Most of them are not even Christians.
There are over 613 laws in the old testament, why are we not obeying all? Why is it only tithing we must obey and disregard the other 612?

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the only person who benefits and prospers is the account owner in which all tithes and offerings are paid into. Hypothetically, let's say a church has 200 members that earn $50,000 per annum and all pay their tithes of 10% which leaves them with $45,000 while total tithes paid into the pastor's account is 200x5,000 = $1,000,000 per annum.
That's why pastors will defend and continue to preach the tithing doctrine indefinitely.

Kobojunkie:
If your pastor's tithe gets to God, why not pay yours directly to God as well?

I had this same discussion with a friend who pays tithe while I don't. I told him "since you believe it works for you, why don't you find out who your pastor pays his tithe to and do the same, if not you're just paying money into your pastor's account for him to use as he wishes"
I later told him I wish him all the best in his tithing beliefs and one day he'll get to know the truth and start doing the right thing according to Yahushua.

Slurity:
FOR PAYING TITHE ALONE, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS AS YOUR EXAMPLE. JESUS NEVER PAY TITHE AND HE PREACHED GRACE AND NOT LAW. TITHING IS A LAW. PAYING IT MAKE YOU NOT A CHRISTIAN. WE DON'T PAY TITHE IN MY CHURCH AND WE VIGOROUSLY EXPLAIN WHY TO ANYBODY THAT CARE TO LEARN WHAT THE SPIRIT IS TEACHING

Just curious, what church do you attend?

Why don't these pastors call The Most High - YAH and the Messiah - Yahushua? These are their real names and are very symbolic.

Dansuqi:
Cosmas maduka aka coschsris

What about Cletus Ibeto? and Jowi Zaza Ezeokafor?

Dansuqi:
Eriweagwuagwu,Arthur one thousand,the 2nd richest anambra man.eze n'ukpo 1.the owelle of ukpo,ayaka of ukpo

Just curious who's the 1st richest in Anambra?

I've had this argument with a lot of my Christian friends on why they call The Messiah - "Jesus" instead of his real name "Yahshua" which has a symbolic and powerful meaning.
For example, the Israeli Prime Minister's symbolic name is "Netanyahu" - which means "Yah has given". That's what everyone calls him instead of translated names like Nathan, Natin, etc.

SmartProf:
Debt is a form of bondage...It is a financial termite. You cant be in continuous debt and win, that's why Nigeria is where we are. Our leaders lack sense, else they would have asked themselves why they are always borrowing, and never lending to any Nation

Not exactly correct. The United States has been in continuous debt and the economy has been booming prior to COVID-19. As you rightly said The fundamental issue with Nigeria is bad leadership and policies.

JeffreyD1:
Hope they never inject am

I no trust these guys

Exactly my assertions. Hush and Woodberry are definitely going to snitch on other syndicates in exchange for a reduced sentence. I also heard they colluded with Russian hackers who might want to eliminate them before they snitch.

mandalorian:
It is a simple math young man, no one legitimately lives above his income. Hush was leaving larger than Dangote, I know many of the things the later was into, but the former ........to God be the glory.

You’re spot on. We all know individuals who are wealthier than Hush but don't display and lavish $ the way he does.
It was just a matter of time before the authorities put an end to his fraudulent lifestyle.

martineverest:
poor TRIBALISTIC kids will be fighting on nairaland,while the rich kids are Flexing with people from other tribes

Exactly my assertions. I remember seeing a pic of Otedola, Dangote and Ifeanyi Ubah together on a yatch celebrating devoid of tribal or religious differences or bigotry.

May his gentle soul RIP.

Righteousness89:
Despite the Fame!
Despite The Name!
Despite The Cash and all that!
It ends in suicide!

And whosever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of Fire..

Fame, Name, Cash, Popularity and all that does not give Peace .

True Peace Is only found in The Prince of Peace!

JESUS CHRIST is the Prince of Peace!

With JESUS! Life or death , you Gain!

Why don't you start with wishing and praying for the deceased's soul to RIP?
Also His real name is Yahshua which means 'I am Salvation'.

Isn't His real name Yahshua? Meaning "I am Salvation"? That's what I call Him.
I'm still confused why people don't call His real name?

jumobi1:
He won’t be extradited until the US tries him. If guilty, they will jail him and then extradite. He allegedly committed crimes against the US. You think the US will allow Nigeria punish him for them?

Exactly my assertions! He'll be prosecuted and sentenced in the US. His lawyers will most likely request for a plea deal for him to cooperate and snitch on others in exchange for a reduced sentence. After serving his sentence, then EFCC can now extradite him to Nigeria to face charges there.