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TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 4:15pm On Nov 28, 2008
we know luca but u know sometimes an issue or point is lost when it is overflogged or becomes derailed.yeah yeah britain is def not a bed of roses, never was and never will be because its still on this earth.meaning no where on earth can ever be devoid of suffering pain or evils ever since we got evicted from eden. wink.but posting pics of brits will still not erase the issues that even though hackney,dalston,peckham and loads of other places in the UK are epitomes of squalor will not discourage people from wanting to emigrate.rather lets see the evils of relocation without justification and right papers.my point is life is HARD in the UK.but life is also hard everywhere but our govt should pls pls make life just a little bearable for its citizens and i bet you most people here would go home and then when people at home see people coming home,the attraction for travelling abroad would be lost.I know most our parents who came home in the 80's and 70's after studying here cos they knew the home they were going home to was one were they could be comfortable(not necessarly rich) to have a good standard of living.and i personally know so many who regretted that decision 15 yrs down the line.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:06pm On Nov 28, 2008
wumiabo:
tos
Honestly i am quite confortable, i have hsmp and am sure thats what you have too. I did not start this thread because of myself, i am always looking at the larger picture maybe you are not. I want the misconception that people have about coming abroad to be discussed. I want people to offer honest opinions about their experiences outside the shores of Nigeria. I absolutely agree that it depends on individuals, but everyone should be discouraged from leaving Nigeria without work permit and even with work permit, if you are not finding it easy here, you have a father land where no one will reject you or treat you like a second citizen.

I did not start this thread for myself but to offer honest advise to those ive seen here and to others coming behind. If you go to hsmp forums you will think UK is heaven. Britons are even finding it difficult getting a job now. What are forums for if we can't tell ourselves the truth.

The truth is my standard of living in Nigeria is better than here. I can afford everything, light, water, car driver, gateman. Tos can you afford to have a driver in the UK? but am sure u had in Nigeria. (please this is relative just for the sake of argument) don't let us deceive ourselves with constant light and water illusions when you are paying for every bit of it. Even if PHCN likes let them not bring light for a week, my 1mth house rent here (£600) will buy a generator and fuel it in a month.

Another truth if we search deep into ourselves is we are in london so that people will say we live in london. I pray not that there be any unrest, then we will know that we are safer in Nigeria than any other place.
i don't  know about others i am not in london for the sake of being in london(never was and never will be).please do not generalise.Also,sometimes having a driver does not mean a better standard of living.I mean so many people have drivers in naija mainly as status symbols.The reason u,i or tos can't afford one is the fact that the driver would earn hourly and at at rate  that might be almost the cost of your whole salary.tell me do u pay your driver even half of what u earn in nigeria?thats because labour is cheap in nigeria.miss em driver runs sha tongue
TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 2:59pm On Nov 28, 2008
lucabrasi:
@angiefan
where are you getting your own articles and pictures from?
nigerians who took these photos in nigeria,you are posting it on a nigerian site where numerous threads have highlighted the problems facing nigerians so whats your point??
@damiso
while a lot of potential migrants might want to see things for themselves, if these pictures o ugly britain will save only a minute amount of them,then i think this thread will have achieved its purpose, britain is not el dorado or paradise as they have the same problems like the rest f us

1.problem of dirty streets,neighbourhoods
2.problem of cyber crime otherwise known as yahoo yahoo in nigeria
3.drugs
4.derelict and run down buildings
5.crime
6insecurity
7.armed robbery
those higlighted problems ok.but do u seriously think yahoo,yahoo armed robbery and drugs will deter someone who lives in oju-ina,mushin and oluwole to not want to relocate?
PoliticsRe: Is Police Our Friend? by damiso(f): 2:49pm On Nov 28, 2008
no not in nigeria,and the people who make them our enemy are also our enemy;the govt by making them(the police) live in poverty and not providng them equpiment and adequte renumeration.this gives them the excuse;we are not paid well and we dont have the equipment to do our work.
TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 2:32pm On Nov 28, 2008
@ lucabrasi
while i readily agree with the aim of this thread which is to let people know that britain is not paved with Gold,which i think is something that should be commended so as to discourage people wanting to relocate abroad at all costs with no reasonable game plan, you wil agree that alot of posters have then proceeded to turn into it into a nigeria vs britain thing.yeah i agree that i get pissed when all they show of africa is squalor and poverty(esp those stupid charity adverts) but please lets leave this to basic infrastructure and alland  leave lifetsyle choices out of this.let people know that britain esp london is also dirty,people are also homeless yeah but drugs,paedophilia are lifestyle choices and ills that we cannot pretend does not happen back home too.everyone makes the choice to follow that path wherever they are.believe me if will never go into drugs,pics of drug addicts will not make me not want to sell my father's house to move to london.it will only make me say 'me ke wetin i wan do with drugs make i go hustle make money like my brother who sent 6 LCD tv home last month(bought fraudulently with someone else credit card;ike)'.i think painting a pic of the hell illegal immigrants go through,pics of depression faced by being alone and without familyetc which are problems alot of people face here  would be much more educative.
TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 1:44pm On Nov 28, 2008
lucabrasi:
while the pictures of the buildings i have posted might be derelict,the point here is that britain just like africa,nigeria e.t.c all have their ugly eyesore bits, britain is not paradise and so they should stop with castigating everything nigerian/african, we know nigerians are suffering and all that, our excuse is bad leadership,corruption ,unfair agricultural rebate from britain and the rest of the european union and america e.t.c
[b]WHAT IS BRITAIN'S EXCUSE FOR THE DIRTY STREETShuhAFTER ALL THEY ARE RICHhuh[/b]WHAT IS BRITAIN'S EXCUSE FOR POLICE CORRUPTION?OR DIDNT YOU READ THE MANY ARTICLES I POSTEDhuh?

WHAT IS BRITAIN'S EXCUSE FOR PAEDOPHILIA AFTER ALL THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR EXAMPLES IN CHILDCARE

WHAT IS BRITAIN'S EXCUSE FOR THE DIRTY STREETS,DRUG EPIDEMIC AMONGST YOUTHS?OUR NIGERIAN YOUTHS don't DO DRUGS IN SPITE OF THE POVERTY

WE KNOW NIGERIA IS DIRTY ALREADY,BUT I'm POSTING THESE LOVELI PHOTOS OF UGLY BRITAIN SO THAT NIGERIANS AND OTHER AFRICANS WILL SHED THE BELIEVE THAT BRITAIN IS NEXT TO HEAVEN, ITS NOT!!!

MORE PHOTOS,
pardon me  but i think you turned it into a comparison with the post above, and i didnt mean the delusion as an insult so pardon the use of the word.and as for drug addicts i still mantain that alot of ills are commited in the 'closet' in nigeria that you would be suprised.i had a friend in uni,pretty well brought(and female)guess you know the stigma attached to women smoking in nigeria, who not only smoked cigarrettes but was a baroness in the igbo smoking brigade.if u see this person u would never believe it.and there were loads of people like that.and u must agree that even marijuana smoking has stigmas attached to it,still doesnt stop the scourge.all i am saying is tha,castigating britain on issues like lifestyle choices does not mean we do not have such.and i repeat i am NOT a british apologist.just being objective.one more observation,we could be richer than britain if our stupid leaders would manage our resources better.afterall i think we have alot of things they don't have which i must add is not just oil( a more motivated populace for example),so we have no excuse as well to still have more than half of our population living in squalor.and pls i hate that sorry chant of 'we are just 48 abi na 49' age is not an excuse.we are more blessed than britain and we had the mistakes of others to learn from.

@ angiefan
are u sure ur a nigerian? i don't think you are.why the vicious and aggressive assault on a nation of intelligent and resilient people who are unfortunately badly led?
PoliticsRe: Merrill Lynch Ranks Nigeria World’s Safest Economy by damiso(f): 1:23pm On Nov 28, 2008
JustGood:
I should add that the big problem with Nigeria is Nigerians.
The average Nigerian wants to be able to feel that he is better than the next Nigerian and he wants to prove that to him. If he is abroad, he wants to tell the Nigerian in naija that life for him abroad is perfect while life in Nigeria is rotten whereas that may be far from the truth.
It's all about posturing for the average Nigerian abroad. Mainly such people who have nothing going in their lives feel the need to deride Nigeria in order that those in Nigeria might respect them and not see their journey abroad as needless.

Unless we stop with this mentality of always bringing ourselves down, we'll never be able to contain the downward spiral of the economy and social position of Nigeria.
It is the oppressor mentality where each person is looking to 'oppress' the other rather than just live his decent life and let others live theirs. This same mentality is what informs kleptomania in government where officials want to loot more than they'll ever need and stash the loot in foreign banks without thinking about it's effect on the rest of the society. . . as long as they are able to 'oppress'.
GBAM.this post really really summarises the psyche of majority of nigerians.AND I HATE IT.why must we always feel that we are better than other people?why should the person abroad feel he is better than the person back home?and the SBO working in a  bank feel he is better than the civil servant at alausa?i could as well have been the typer of the above because those are my exact sentiments.
TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 12:45pm On Nov 28, 2008
@ lucbrasi
ko si access ni.as you said they can't afford it and crack which is a cheaper alternative to cocaine is not readily available;that why u see that it's all those foolish giro collecting omo iranu are more on crack than cocaine;cocaine is for the richer junkies ie amyhuh, ,kate??, , wink.anyway back to naija,if there was crack at the rate they are going it will also become an epidemic.remember the gbana scourge back in the late 80's early 90's where lagos was besieged with so many junkies(was young but remember being scared when they would approach people on broadstreet and marina esp back then).am just saying drugs,paedophilia are societal ills that  oftentimes plague most societies,the western world just have more information dissemination than we do and that makes it seem they have worse cases.lets not delude ourselves we do have this ills,they are not just not publicised.u would be suprised at stories of abuse adults of today in naija suffered at the hands of houseboys/girls when they were young;you would be suprised.our culture just tends to stifle things.
TravelRe: Ugly Britain by damiso(f): 12:16pm On Nov 28, 2008
lucabrasi:
drug addicts in britain grin grin at least in all our squalour and poverty,we don't go chasing dragons, grin grin
@lucabrasi please me i am not british apologist but please there are drug addicts everywhere includding naija.We were having a discussion sometimes this yr about a recent increase in the abuse of marijuana by our youths esp those in higher institutions.its really growing at an alarming rate.i have no long essay to back up my claim but i have younger ones in scholl back home nad they have confirmed this.and there are paedophiles in nigeria plenty in fact,there is not just a name it is known has 'boda sikiru told me to remove my pant' wink.u want to try the amount of under-aged girls hawking oranges that our depraved mai guard slaughtered in his room.
FashionRe: What Works For You? Perfumed Talc, Foundation, Pressed/loose (brown) Powder by damiso(f): 5:07pm On Nov 27, 2008
the dual coverage pressed powder compact from mary kay is the only product that i think has really given me the look i really desire.
CultureRe: How Can I Identify My Fellow Nigerians Abroad ? by damiso(f): 4:29pm On Nov 27, 2008
ode remo:
you can't miss them on the bus the one with the loudest voice and speaking in mother tongue. yeah thats the one.
SO TRUE grin
thought i was the only one that noticed that everyone speaking with the loudest voice and mother tongue always speaks a nigerian language.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 12:39pm On Nov 27, 2008
tos:
I will like to contribute to this thread. I am very happy that someone took the initiative to start a thread like this. As much as I agree with most of what the starter of the thread said, there are certain things that you cannot generalise as individuals have peculiar circumstances.

I have been in the UK for 10 months (i think it was 10 months yesterday). Although I cannot say it has all been bed of roses all the time, but I am still happy about my decision to relocate. I was a big salary earner before leaving Nigeria and there was never a time when I was leaving that I thought I was going to be an instant hit when I get to the UK. I have changed jobs during the few months I have spent in the UK so far and I get paid a lot of money. I am not saying there is no racism in the UK but I have never been a victim of it. I guess if you are a professional i your own field, they do appreciate it and give you credit for it. Presently, I am the only black person in my office and I earn a lot more that most of my colleagues that are white and with UK degrees. Please note that all my degrees were gotten in Nigeria.

Please do not misinterpret what I am saying. It is safe to come here when you have your papers with full right to work. I have seen friends without papers that languish in poverty here. Though, I try to help in my own little way. Contrary to what people are saying, there are people that can afford to accommodate others for an extended period of time without asking them to leave or pay rent. I have done that for people without having any people withem whatsoever. I still have two people staying with me and my family at the moment and my wife feeds them without ever complaining about them. When they have, they give her but we always understand when they have to take care of people back home or have school fees to pay.

To be honest, I sometimes think about my decision to relocate, especially when it comes to savings. I was saving more on monthly basis in Nigeria that I am doing in the UK even with a far bigger salary (more than £12k more than what I was earning in Nigeria). But when I look at the bigger picture (considering safety for your family, constant electricity, ever available water, spare time to spend with my family and friend, etc), I tend to convince myself that I have made the right decision. The only thing i am losing is a £200 less in my savings.

As I have earlier mentioned, it is not worth it coming here without your papers and ambitions. A friend of my started working with M&S when he got to the UK even though he has a degree in finance (he was doing well at the time). But after few months, he was able to secure a very good job. An illegal person would nothave been able to achieve this.

However, inspite of all I have said, even for professionals, this is not the right time to come to the UK. Stay where you are at the moment and make the best of it.

Let me allow others to say their piece.
GBAM.best piece of advise to offer at the moment to anyone.esp if you do not have papers.even with papers sef still not advisable.The Uk is in for a tough next couple of years but as i love to say'The GRACE of the lord is my sufficiency' in all situtations.Some millionaires were made in the worst recessions so it is well.besides i survived SAP(structural adjustment programme) for those not born then.i think i should say my parents sha but at least i still had food to eat if not i for don die wink
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 10:42am On Nov 27, 2008
between, i was joking with my hubby this morn that i think i want to keep my beloved green passport grin grin grin.check out what is happening in mumbai.at least no terrorist dey look for us.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 10:38am On Nov 27, 2008
i am back.dont mind me just too lazy to go online when i get home after they don use my head and eyes finish at work;not complanining though.Have been kinda lucky with my dealings with people here so do not really have horror stories to tell because i always tend to leave before my hosts start becoming hostile.
But now that i live here i basically think calling all people that live in britain miserly is kinda unfair.My house sometimes gets too hot now that i have to turn off the heating as it gives me a headache.So i guess being miserly lies with the individual.why would i be saving money and then get cold and freeze and then in turn get pneumania(hope i spelt it right).i love myself too much for that and also will not allow my guests to freeze cos if they are indeed guests they should not stay for an unspecified time that would dent my family purse.as difficult as it is i have found out that i save more here than i used to in naija.Maybe that was becuase i had no responsibilties but i think you spend alot of more unbudgted money in naija than here.My mom basically complains everytime i call about generator bills,food and so many hanger on's that you need to cater for which makes it diificult to budget expenditure.

Like now,once we pay all the utility bills,i buy my monthly travel card,do my hair,food is bought in bulk and i do one or two of my ojukokoro shopping i get to stash away more than i used to in naija,Ha naija one thing will always come up for u to spend money on and its really difficult to budget expenditure.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 5:45pm On Nov 26, 2008
Busy_body:
You do see in the end but initially you think how could people be so cruel, but saying this though, i know people who were illegal in this country, work and pay their salary into their hosts account only for the host to ask them to leave or change the locks.  

I met a girl who did five cleaning jobs for eight months, but whose sister ended up accusing her of wanting to sleep with her husband and throwing her out. She was thrown out without a dime, all she had was the clothes on her back.

She told me she started her first work at 4am-6am, then go somewhere else from 6am-8am, then she did 8am-4pm, then 4pm-6pm, then 6pm-11pm shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked And her sister sat on all this money, chei. The last I heard, she got a waitessing job working for this local joint called - Iyabo Onigbin - where clients tap their bum whenever the waitresses walk past shocked Tufiakwa
That her host is wicked o.all because she know that the poor girl would freeze at the sight of police.It is things like that made me decide that illegal immigration is not worth it.Its bad enough being black but now having to shrink or die for 69 secs when u see police is not worth it.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 5:25pm On Nov 26, 2008
*osisi:
This is a different environment so visitors should not expect to harboured till eternity.
Personally I only allow holiday makers in my home.
anyone with a visitors visa hoping to turn illegal and stay on is not welcome ,even if he's my blood relative
I can't arrange illegal marriage and don't have the time to drive people around looking for jobs and what if they fall sick ?
It's a big responsiblity to keep people with no concrete plans
Quite harsh but practical.people yab my sis in law about that but now i am begginning to see her point.when you advise people to go back home and not overstay illegally some of them hate u.My hubby and his sis have so many of their cousins that don't talk to them because of this.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 5:23pm On Nov 26, 2008
Busy_body:
There was this other thread that people had spent close to £30,000 in their bid to travel abroad, how many years would it take to recover that amount shocked
are u for real? shocked shocked shocked shocked£30,000? na real wa.pls is living abroad Euro millions lottery.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 5:09pm On Nov 26, 2008
*osisi:
My first job after I left Naija was washing dishes in an Indo/ paki restaurant.
Before then I had never worked a day in my life
Here I was from an average Nigerian family with 2 cars with an enviable degree from a prestigious first tier Nigerian university in London washing dishes in a smelly Indian restaurants with all the abuse.
But I needed to survive.
I had to eat so I did what I had to do but my goal was clear before me.
I knew that all I had to do was pass the professional exams and my situation would be reversed dramatically.
But there are many Nigerians who don't even have a degree falling over themselves at the embassies to leave Nigeria for England and America.
nice story osisi but some people are in that your category at the moment and some nigerians will look down on them.my bro in law also had to go through all that when he first relocated to america but he is doing quite well now.i really don't like the way nigerians make fun of certain jobs.for some  people those jobs are just a means to an end.Also agree for you to have a clear idea of your destination not just wanting to 'travel' beacuse everyone is travelling or beacuse 'abroad'i.e 'ilu or obodo oyinbo' is heaven.You are in for  rude shock.
You have to struggle man.nobody gives u anything for free.
I remeber when i was in UNI apart from my parents,i had like 2 uncles who saying Good morning to meant like 5 or 10k for baffs,where you wan see that one abroad.Your are On.Your.Own.Its good small sha it makes you appreciate when people give you cos i sure know i used to take people giving me things for granted alot when i was younger.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:57pm On Nov 26, 2008
please nigerians abroad are(those like me sha that have most their life in nigeria) can survive recession anywhere.esp those of us that have put living on credit to the barest min.
sebi this thread was even to give advsie sef;advice 1;
STAY AWAY FROM CREDIT CARDS.IF U WANT RADO WATCH SAVE FOR IT.
one valuaable lesson i learnt from my husband.also all those people who sha wanted to say 'we have bought house'and paid£5,000 deposit with £1,200 monthly repayments.them go hear wen(.esp while working odd jobs)
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:51pm On Nov 26, 2008
In short life is a struggle everywhere,anywhere as long its still on the this earth. cool
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:29pm On Nov 26, 2008
Busy_body:
I don't live in Nigeria, but I know there are a great deal of businesses you can start for less than £500 in Nigeria cool
abeg be kind enough to fill me in and i dont mean hand to mouth business.one that can grow and sustain itself gradually.pls share this your knowledge pls.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:25pm On Nov 26, 2008
really really falling down.so pls if you are thinking of coming to london to hustle and take back the 'almighty kpounds' forgerrit its not worth it.funny enuff i dont know why i am not really bothered( really i should be) tongue
FamilyRe: Who Is Enjoying The Fruits Of Your Labour? by damiso(f): 4:16pm On Nov 26, 2008
really a food for thought.alot of things have happened to me lately that has made me realise that all this material possesions we chase daily are 'vanity upon vanity'.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 4:03pm On Nov 26, 2008
MT:
@Hesperus If you had written this statement like 3 years , I would have agreed. I have seen individuals making it with odd jobs in UK as well, but even now with the recession setting in, every one knows where the shoe pinces. people are losing jobs at alarming rate, there is pressure on the "odd" jobs itself and thereby forcing down the salary. No money, no dignity!. Suffering and smiling

Besides, you are mixing 2 things up. This thread is referring to people who are professionals in their chosen careers doing Odd jobs, people who have better potentials to make it in Nigeria but because of what people will say when they get to Nigeria, they are stuck to living in UK. don't forget that some people are even illiterates but are professionals in their field. Some people just need 500 pounds to kickstart their business in naija, but they will get here and be thinking of billions.Billions they wont see, Naija they wont go, and thus getting worse off.
@DamisoI refuse to agree with this. The mistake we normally make is generally tagging all graduates as professionals. Hell no!. Professionals refer to authority in your chosen career.Some people graduate from Uni or Poly without any knowledge whatsoever about their discipline. I refuse to refer to such as professionals, and maybe they are the type you are referring to here. Sorry, they aint professionals, they are mediocres.
Where lies the comfort in UK ?. The silent racism, the tiny house, the steady light, gas, water that come at very exorbitant price, the killing taxes,their rude kids that insult and assault at every point in time etc.
I stand to be corrected tho.

PS : I'm not slagging off UK but saying my mind in relations to Nigerian professionals (illiterate and literate) neck-deep in Odd jobs in UK but with better potentials to make it in Nigeria
Pls i still lived in nigeria in 2008 and i know that it would be difficult to kickstart a business with £500 ie 182X500=91,000.That is not enough to buy a generator to run a pure water business.

I agree with you though that an authority in their field should not be reduced to doing menial jobs to survive.But come to think of it,i have never seen an authority in their chosen field doing menial jobs,maybe it is me sha but i dont know any.
btw i find the rude kids irritating too.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 2:52pm On Nov 26, 2008
MT:
@wumiabo,

You have started what I regard as my "BEST THREAD" ever on Nairaland. I totally agree with everything you raised in your thread. Let me make refernce to some specific statement :A lot of people have told me here in the UK that the main reason why they do not want to go back home is what people will say when they get back home. Even, some people say they can't stay more than a month in Nigeria because they do not want people to have the notion that they are deported. I consider this ridiculous. It's meant to be my life and not another person. I could remember being in Nigeria one time, and I spent about 3 months, a lot of the people around me were gossiping about me that I had been deported, but who cares?. Until we are able to stand for what we believe in, i don't see any progress in sight This is really the truth!. A loT of people drops out from Uni or Poly because they want to come abroad, with the believe that when they get there, they will come and "hustle" and use the proceed to fund their school. When they eventually get here, reality dawn on them. They can't move forward, and they wont want to go back to Nigeria, knowing fully well that they will have to start their Uni from the scratch , and moreso, it will amount to a huge shame among their friends. So many brilliant chaps are really wasting away due to this fact. Besides, some people are very comfortable back home, they relocate here only to see that all the hype about abroad IS a mirage. I think we must all learn that sometimes our decisions could be wrong, but we MUST not find it too hard to RETRACE our steps no matter how painful it could be.A trained lawyer in Naija doing care work abroad, to me is a degradation. Argue it from today till tommorrow, I wont shift my stance on this. There's a difference between a professional and layman. Imagine Gordon brown's Children , or Tony Blair's or even Obama's doing all these "odd" jobs. You wont find any of the elite children there. Call it "Nigeria" mentality, i don't care. What is the essence of a job that you are doing that negates all the values in you. Something that wont bring fulfilment but rather allow you to live from hands to mouth. Something you can't tell people in Naija that this is what you are doing. or who prays to spend fortune on his child's education that at the end of the day , he will use such certificate to be a rubbish collector ??

Lastly, any one is free to choose his/her own destiny but I feel we must choose rather
wisely. I will rather prefer to be a fulfilled professional in Nigeria than being a dish-washer, dog-walker, train-cleaner and any other menial jobs you could think of abroad. A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE!
I so much agree with all the points you have raised BUT as i said in my earlier post this issues are subjective as some people are proffessionals with a standard of living lower than someone who is doing menial jobs here.I have seen first hand experiences of such.So yeah if you are a proffessional with a well paying[i] satisfying [/i] job(some people are well paid and dont have job satisfaction so its not always about money) i see no reason why you should emigrate esp illegally and then be reduced to doing what you would not ordinarily do.

I have been over here alot of times before relocating and i made up my mind that i would NEVER leave nigeria to come and live here permanently illegally,Thats because i knew that i would be much better back home.But this is not the case for some people,they are sincerely not better back home.In short a whole family depends on that train cleaner.This is not to say i support those who joined the bandwagon of 'going to jand' and then not going to school.A cousin of my husband did that and he is really regretting doing that.All i was trying to say earlier is that we place alot of emphasis on status and all this 'odd' jobs actually feed families.
TravelRe: Uk Is Fastening Their Seat Belt - Closing To Immigrant by damiso(f): 11:40am On Nov 26, 2008
Nobody wants to come to their country again sef undecided and they will be shouting immigration as if it is immigrants that caused credit crunch.i get so pissed when they keep on shouting immigration.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 11:38am On Nov 26, 2008
wumiabo:
Am starting this because i think everyone should be informed. Information is really key and makes the difference. I have been outside the country for sometime and now wonder if i am better off in london than Nigeria. This is serious because most people don't want to tell the truth about the situation espcially in the UK. I keep asking myself if it is worth it and need other peoples honest opinion.

I had a good job in Nigeria and i got a good job here too. I never did any odd job and i work as a professional. The money i earn is times five of what i earn Nigeria. But at the end of the day after paying for accomodation and tax, am probably left with the same thing. I hold my personality and self in high regard, i don't want to loose that. But here, no matter what you are a second class citizen.

Bothering on what i see around. A lot of people have lost their destiny, live goals and personality just because they want to relocate abroad. They come to the UK and clean roads and train stations. People do odd jobs that will definitely degrade one. You see graduates come here and do carpentry jobs, bricklaying. Is it really worth it. can't they go back to Nigeria and achieve what God sent them to the world to achieve. Most people are in the Uk just because they want people back home to think they are in the UK. they are suffering and smiling, living from hand to mouth and no savings worth soever.

We have to come to a point that we will tell ourselves the truth. If living abroad will not favour you and you know you had a good job at home or potential of then don't waste your life because of what people will say. UK or US is not heaven. i repeat most people lost their destiny my moving abroad and they probably need to retrace their steps. i have seen so many examples of that here. In the Uk, nobody smiles unlike Nigeria. What is the meaning of life without smiles and happiness.
Between,i think nigerians have to get past the fact that some jobs are degrading.there is dignity in labour and i think cleaning train stations is better than doing yahoo yahoo.I will respect a LAWMA(lagos sate waste management management authority) cleaner better than a yahoo boy cos the cleaner worked for his money.Our no 1 problem and what irks me the most in naija(believe me i love naija more than anywhere in this world) is our 'i am better than u'syndrome.There was this stupid idiot boy i went to uni with who said 'what i hate about london is the fact that you will be seeing MD entering train with cleaner' can u beat that mentality.I hate london for alot of reasons but not for something as superficial as that.The head of my SBU at work earns good money both as salary and bonuses but takes the train to work.Even when fasola succeeds with metro rail i have friends who are just SBO's in banks that will never take it.So they will start taking the same train as cleaners?lai lai whick kain levels be that?they must park their new honda civic in the car park o.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad: What Advise Will You Give Anyone Relocating Abroad? by damiso(f): 11:23am On Nov 26, 2008
Although i agree with most of what you said,i personally think decissions on what to do lies solely with individuals.it would be hypocritical of me to put myself in another person shoes as the person in those shoes knows where it pinches.I have come to realise that people have different reasons for doing things and it would be unfair to generalise and say go back to nigeria to all graduates struggling here in the UK.Situations and circumstances vary and so i think its best left for people to do what they think would suit them.

I kniow peopel who had good jobs back home in naija and just decided to move abroad and i always used to think are you mad or something.But with time i have come to realise that all that glitters is not gold and that sometimes what you see on the outside might be just an illusion.I have also seen people go back home to nigeria in frustration and sometimes be worse off than when they left.

I will always say one thing though,i want to move back home in the nearest future as an entreprenuer. lets just think of what will happen to graduates back home if all of the educated elite and nigerian graduates go back hometo compete in the labour market.
TravelRe: We Miss Nigeria Because by damiso(f): 11:04am On Nov 26, 2008
i miss my family the most of all.
i miss the crazy 'anything goes' atmosphere.life gets broing when everything is too structured.
i miss the weekly weddings,birthdays,burials and the beauty of aso-ebi
i miss the warmth and ability to be yourself and not think of skin colour and accent
i miss home generally.have a friend relocating back to naija in a couple of days and am wishing we could swap places.cant wait to go back really.only just got here but already thinking of when we can go back.i love my husband sha and only him makes it worth it.
FamilyRe: Ever Lost Someone As Dear As Family? Come Light A Candle For Them Here by damiso(f): 2:06pm On Nov 25, 2008
I light a candle for my dear DAD who departed this cruel and vain world on the 4th of November.I am still in shock and still find it difficult to believe that the last day i saw you was the day you saw me off to join my hubby.I love you so much and despite all the differing opinions i had with you, i could not have wished for a better father.You taught to believe so much in myself and made me know that my gender should not be barrier to me acheiving all my dreams.You made me fearless and made me realise that no one was better than me despite their colour,age or financial achievements and that what really mattered was on the inside.and most of all thank you for the type of education you gave me which did not only entail paying my school fees but also sharpening my analytical and reasoning skills.Gosh i am almost in tears typing this but love you and wish i could have said Goodbye. cry cry cry cry Sun re I promise to become all what you dreamed for me and even more by God' grace.Also regret that i was too busy to read your book am sorry for not making the time to do that.The book will be part of your endowment.
FamilyRe: Can You Slap Your Husband? by damiso(f): 1:50pm On Nov 25, 2008
please clarify slap playfully or 'slap' as in fit of anger. i do playfully tap my hubby cheeks when we are joking as he is the king of jokes and sarcasm.but would never do that during an argument.

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