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Crime › Re: Bank Robbery In Igarra, Edo State, Today (Graphic Photos) by Deadlytruth(m): 8:07am On Aug 10, 2018
Nathanieloo7:
igarra kogi state or edo
Don't confuse Igala in Kogi State with Igarra in Edo State.
Travel › Re: Photos From The Ongoing Lagos Ibadan Railway Project by Deadlytruth(m):
SEONaijaExpert:
C'mon man, state policing is not worth advocating for. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Some of these Governors cannot be trusted with state policing. It may surprise you that some of these problems are even sponsored at state level so who are to police who? I still think a proactive measure is the best looking at it logically especially with the pattern of democracy we practice and the nature of our people. I think we have a government that understand each state and as it is, the herdsmen issue is dramatically taking care of itself.
Logically, the centralized policing system is actually the means of concentration of absolute powers in just one person's hands.
There is no abuse into which governors may put it that the presidency itself has not put it to a larger scale.
accusations that these clashes are being sponsored at the state level even makes it all the more meaningful that there be a state level apparatus to tackle them at that level.
How much is the Nigerian president trustworthy with the centralized police?
What if the military intervention of 1966 had not happened hence regional police remained in place? Would you by now have been advocating its abolition?

The Herdsmen issue is not dramatically taking care of itself or else the killings would not continue as unabated as we have.
Travel › Re: Photos From The Ongoing Lagos Ibadan Railway Project by Deadlytruth(m): 5:51pm On Aug 09, 2018
SEONaijaExpert:
I think the initial silence on the herdsmen issue was the reason for the affiliation and considering the fact that Buhari is a Fulani related too but these are absolute wrong insinuations, I've come to accept that we Nigerians think the way we want to think especially when an opinion is formed. At the beginning of the government, I saw one that meant well for Nigerians considering the personality of the men at the affairs or works, power, transportation etc. We can only hope for good and the worse.
That silence was too loud hence one would not really blame those who attached it to him. Though it is not lost on any sincere observer that it was largely due to the failure of the centralized policing system, what I therefore expected him to have done immediately was to sponsor a state police bill to NASS so as to demonstrate a clean conscience and genuine commitment to fundamentally addressing the scourge. But most times he chose, like his predecessor, to be reactive rather than proactive.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 5:23pm On Aug 09, 2018
pluto09:
Is it not ironic that the same people who are quoting prices and asking people to come back in December are the ones monitoring stock price every now and then.

One would have expected that they will stop being active in the market until December if they actually believe their own rhetorics!
Very apt! They say they don't eat snake meat, but they are busy keenly watching others preparing snake meat meal and even advising them on the right procedures to take in ensuring that it is delicious enough.
Politics › Re: Godswill Akpabio's Defection To APC (Live Photos & Updates) by Deadlytruth(m): 4:58pm On Aug 08, 2018
SlayQueenSlayer:
See crowd. Won't all these people be queried and probably purnished for absence from work?
How many persons are employed in Nigeria?
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 12:14pm On Aug 06, 2018
dipoolowoo:
The 2008 experience is what should never happen again. Some pensioners, like the Nigeria Airways, who invested their severance package then in stocks, lost almost everything. Some that I know today are yet to recover from the crash.

To me, Notore is too high at N62. It should be in the low-priced category.

Well, time will tell.
It was all because most newbies were approaching the Stock market with a kalokalo mindset.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 12:11pm On Aug 06, 2018
bigjay01:
How much was international breweries ...?

It has a 52wk high of N69+
You are right. I perused the IB public offer prospectus then and inferred a promising future. But guess what!
A lot of folks were scared of buying because the offer came just few months after the 2008 crash while wounds were still being licked. Yours sincerely was caught in that emotion based indiscretion.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 10:25am On Aug 06, 2018
austinkenneth:
Oando wad sold for more than N150.
Fidelity bank once sold for N15.
Diamond bank once sold for N30.
First Bank once sold for N45.
FCMB(finbank) was sold for N15.
UBA was sold more than N40


NSE SENDING PEOPLE TO THEIR VILLAGES SINCE 2008.
NAHCO went from N5.00 PP Price to >N70 within 2 months after quotation.
With that NAHCO story everyone became glued to the newspapers for news about fresh PPs.

I wish those times could return now given the experience and hindsight I have gathered.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 10:20am On Aug 06, 2018
ZikkyChops:
Is he true 13,000%
Seems you had not joined the market back then. From 68 kobo to N88 Naira. Do the calculation yourself and see.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 5:31pm On Aug 05, 2018
Mpeace:
Sometime in 2008' this same japaul of 0.30 sold for 15naira. Lol. Time, time. You bad.
You have forgotten COSTAIN the all time record breaker which rose from N0.68 in 2006 to N88 in 2008 - almost 13,000℅ gain. Those were really crazy moments on NSE. When the bubble finally burst in 2008 it was a merciless cascade of daily losses.
Politics › Re: "God Will Never Forgive Me If I Support Atiku For President" — Obasanjo by Deadlytruth(m): 4:54pm On Aug 04, 2018
MrPolitics:
Baba we both know this is personal. Because you prostrated for him. Who send you?
I am sure Atiku's biggest regret will be allowing OBJ to run for re-election. If Atiku had listened to the governors then, he would be a former president today.

Now, I doubt the PDP would still give him their ticket. He was the most favoured until the recent defections.
Would be interesting to see
Couldn't have been better said. He was warned by Tinubu and Ibori. It is even said in some quarters that Tinubu specifically asked Atiku to mention to him just one promise Obasanjo ever made and kept to deserve his trust in him to support his ambition in return in 2007, but that Atiku couldn't.
Politics › Re: See How Nigerian States Rank In Terms Of Progress by Deadlytruth(m): 5:24am On Aug 04, 2018
evansjeff:
Stay in your cave and be waiting for the failure of Edo all because of politics. Edo is surely moving forward. No going back to the days of old where PDP almost completely destroyed the state until Oshiomole and Obaseki came to the rescue.
Don't mind them. They are pained at Edo for being not in PDP as a SS state hence making nonsense of their slogan that "PDP is SS and SS is PDP". They want Edo State to remain in PDP despite what Edo passed through in the hands of Lucky Igbenedion and Obasanjo.
What they fail to realize is that if this list were to have been prepared during the time of Lucky Igbenedion and PDP in Edo State, the state might be just at the bottom or at least among the bottom 10.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:52pm On Aug 03, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
Let me show you that your organization is just like the rest. In fact worse.
In fact the worst.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:49pm On Aug 03, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
Who makes his god happy with material assets?
Why would god need all these to make him happy?
Manipulation at its peak. Lol. Every time Pentecostal this Pentecostal that Tithe and offerings are bad. Yet the same people who criticise Pentecostal church say their Almighty loving jehovah will be happy if they donate their material assets. This is the same jehovah that warns people about falling for material things. Lol.
They are shameless hypocrites. In their manipulated brains it is wrong for other denominations to attack JW's. But they don't see anything wrong in their own attacks on other denominations.
They are the most materialistic religious denomination in world history.
They claim donation is optional in their sect but the same sect dictates what members should donate to the point of even specifically listing them out as bonds, shares, landed property, business, etc in addition to the donation boxes already provided in their places of worship. What a 'voluntary' kind of donation?
I have not even seen or heard of any Orthodox or Pentecostal Church going as far as asking their members to donate their very assets but just part of the profit generated by those assets as the Bible really directs.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 2:13pm On Aug 03, 2018
TATIME:
When someone sincere and honest hearted comes on board to learn about JWs i'll surface but as for you Hairyrapunzel go get yourself a plate of catfish and Guilder for relaxation and stop killing yourself because of your jealousy,hatred and envy towards Jehovah's Witnesses. grin grin grin For your information we remain the happiest group globally of all times since the nineteenth century so stop waisting your time,energy and data. wink wink wink
When someone sincerely and honestly comes forward to learn about Christ we surface to give him answers because our own focus is on Christ and not on denominations created by sinful humans out of pride, jealousy, divisive tendencies, self aggrandizement, self glorification, etc. However, we also correct denominations who are fond of deliberate misinterpretation of the Bible for ism and schism agenda.
The truly jealous people are those who, in the name of preaching Christ, actually devote most of their time, energy and resources to preaching about themselves and daily trying to convince people that they are better than others whom they actually secretly envy. They usurp Jesus' own power to judge while pretending to preach about him.
The jealous person is naturally the one who is always looking for faults in others who don't even look his way as they are actually too busy in the field.
The Orthodox and Pentecostal Churches hardly bother themselves with the faults of others because they don't see the work of Christ as a competition between themselves and any other group. But those who, in their carnal and dirty minds see it as an earthly competition for which the ultimate trophy is men's approval, are always busy gossiping about others in their publications, in their thoughts, in their sermons right inside their places of worship, and even in their prayers.

You rather need to get yourself a bottle of Gulder as you are certified wine bibbers and gluttons.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:26am On Aug 03, 2018
TATIME:
Through with you Hairyrapunzel. wink wink wink
You should have continued Mr. Boastful.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:32pm On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
Hmmmmmmm the profile name differs but the spirit behind is the same. cheesy Hairyrapunzel go and preach to your neighbors if you want to convert souls as for me i have presented what i believe in an humble manner but it's like you only like arguing that's why i called you Mr Talktalk so i'm through with you. wink
What a way to cover up for exhaustion. Hairyapunzel is really a nightmare to you guys. His demolition force was just something else hence you see him in every other moniker that shakes the foundation of your manipulative doctrines.

You must be a very naive kid to have happily declared that you weren't bothered about atheists condemning Churches because you assume you were excluded. You forgot that atheism is a resistance to any kind of belief in God generally irrespective of religion or denomination including yours. Do you think they esteem your denomination more than any other as far as you claim to worship a god?
I have never seen a people with so much love for self delusion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 4:34pm On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
The Atheists were ridiculing the Churches and their Pastors i guess i'm less concerned about that but what made me intervened was when one of them spoke against the Bible. That was too much for me to bear so i silenced all of them for raising their tongue against our power house! It was an interesting conversation between myself and those atheists, please you can still find it on one of their thread entitled "How Jesus Christ was Created" by one Otemsapien. Just try and see for yourself perhaps you'll understand what i'm saying, but as for someone like you who claims to believe in the Bible i strongly believe in what Apostle Paul urges Christians to do. Philippians 2:14,15 1Timothy 6:4 Titus 3:9
The verses you referenced above actually indict your very self.

Truly knowledgeable and spiritually mature Christians don't even argue with atheists in the first instance because there is no common ground for that. He may only preach and physically demonstrate God's power before them and possibly succed in making them believe in God. That was the approach the apostles used throughout their missions. This was the reason for their avoidance of that thread which appeared to you as inability to defend the Bible hence your going in for the argument and later becoming guilty of the warning in 1 Timothy 6:4 by boasting with the assumption that you defeated them.

Phil. 2:14-15 is about conduct as it is an instruction that starts with the expression "do everything....." and ends with "so that you may shine....". Christians shine by their conducts and not by how much they can argue with atheists as you erroneously think. The disciples were first called Christians not by their preaching or clever argument but simply because of their conducts which shone like those of Christ in the eyes of observers.
By their fruits (not by their words) ye shall know them. The fruits of the Holy Spirit are listed in the Bible as love, patience, honesty, humility, etc. The ability to win arguments is not listed among.
So go and study your Bible personally without Watchtower mindset and stop quoting its contents out of context.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 3:42pm On Aug 02, 2018
Esteemed626:
The answer to your Rants is that God said thou shalt not kill.. Okay..
And is it only wars that they use tax payers money to finance in the society?
Stop being myopic. You are an adult
And the question you cleverly avoided is the fact that you could actually kill in the process of self defence which your elders in New York approve of as already referenced.
Stop being unintelligently clever. You are an elder.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m):
TATIME:
Two questions: first of all Christianity has nothing to do with orphanages, that is the duty of the rulers to cater for all their subjects, Christians are to cater for fellow believers and if the need be a neighbor in need. But searching for beggars or someone who has gathered motherless children to give money is not what Christ taught His followers. John 12:4-8 In the Bible you can NEVER see a place both in the old or new testament where orphanage is encouraged or supported by God's people. Worshippers of God ONLY cater for nearby neighbors in need and less privileged AMONGST them (worshippers) not the general public! All these were the settings and arrangement of the Orthodox Churches not REAL Christianity! And secondly officiating members of the Christian congregation knows the needs of the congregation so each of them must be aware that those things needs to be taken care of because we must not BEG for money to take care of pure worship. Psalm 23:1 Though voluntary donations as in appreciation for God's work is welcomed from lovers of the truth. Luke 8:3
Christianity has everything to do with orphanages. Jesus asked his followers to care for the poor and needy in the society. This is where the orphanages come in, victims of violent attacks, the sick, the unjustly imprisoned, etc, come in.

If the government were able to cater for all her subjects, then even Christians would not need the church again because they too are government's subjects.

Christians are not to cater for only fellow believers but for the needy in the society generally. The centurion whose son Jesus raised from the dead was not a member of Jesus' followers. Paul and the other Apostles won converts by caring for unbelievers in the society. Jesus won followers by attending to the needs of Jews and gentiles alike.

You claim you must not beg for money for pure worship yet you go from house to house and street to street beginning unbelievers to donate to the publication of your magazines on the excuse that they are "lovers" of the "truth". How many houses or streets did Jesus visit begging those who admired his teachings for support for his mission?
The Orthodox Churches don't as well go from house to house asking unbelievers for 'voluntary' donations. They rather get offerings from their congregations and spend on unbelievers outside the church charitably. This is the true Christianity Jesus taught.
You give to the society rather than take from it. Paul said to unbelievers, "It is you I want, not your money". But to JWs, "it is your money we want, not necessarily you'.

Below is the passage you quoted out of context:

One of Jesus' disciples, Judas Iscariot—the one who was going to betray him—said, 5 “Why wasn't this perfume sold for three hundred silver coins and the money given to the poor?” 6 He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief. He carried the money bag and would help himself from it.

Note the bolded in verse 6. Jesus responded that way because Judas' concern was not sincere and not really because it was wrong for believers to care for the poor in the society. Moreover, Jesus said he deserved the perfume because he would soon be unavailable while the poor would always be around for them to care for.
But you twisted the whole thing to suit your predetermined doctrine.

7 But Jesus said, “Leave her alone! Let her keep what she has for the day of my burial. 8 You will always have poor people with you, but you will not always have me.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m):
TATIME:
Two questions: first of all Christianity has nothing to do with orphanages, that is the duty of the rulers to cater for all their subjects, Christians are to cater for fellow believers and if the need be a neighbor in need. But searching for beggars or someone who has gathered motherless children to give money is not what Christ taught His followers. John 12:4-8 In the Bible you can NEVER see a place both in the old or new testament where orphanage is encouraged or supported by God's people. Worshippers of God ONLY cater for nearby neighbors in need and less privileged AMONGST them (worshippers) not the general public! All these were the settings and arrangement of the Orthodox Churches not REAL Christianity! And secondly officiating members of the Christian congregation knows the needs of the congregation so each of them must be aware that those things needs to be taken care of because we must not BEG for money to take care of pure worship. Psalm 23:1 Though voluntary donations as in appreciation for God's work is welcomed from lovers of the truth. Luke 8:3
A pack of heresy.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 1:01pm On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
Please calm down. I ONLY follow when i'm less busy,remember this is not where we come to preach and teach rather we just chat to get clearer understanding of what each religion teaches! So you can't expect me to always read all the conversations going on in NL,i no get job?
So the same you who had all the time in the world to "demolish" atheists on a thread here suddenly no longer have enough time to always read all the conversations here? I guess you didn't read all the conversations from the atheists before "demolishing" them.
See what trap self glorification can set for its own victim?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m):
TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses teaches all our members how to say NO to military services because the "Nazarene" never support the killing of people from other nations no matter what happens. He taught us how to always resolve issues without strife which could lead to physical combat or WAR! So if you're from Nigeria and i am from Togo the ONLY reason why you and i could raise up arms against each other is POLITICS. That is why Jehovah's Witnesses NEVER participate in either military services nor politics! We strongly believe in resolving all issues the Christlike way. Matthew 5:38-48 These are more or less the advanced understanding of true Christianity, though many still wonders why JWs strongly rejects being in the military and politics when it is difficult to locate where this commands are written in the scriptures, but you will agree with me if you see how easy Jehovah's Witnesses in one country or continent relates freely with JWs from far away lands. Well it's because we're so sure that if truly he/she is one of us there is no need to fear for a gun or other harmful weapons since he/she has been taught to say NO to such. Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3
Is it the demand for just a direct quote from the Bible that generated all these stories which have nothing to do with the Bible?

You are asked why you preach that joining the military is unchristian based on the Bible and you started talking of how JWs resolve their own internal disagreements peacefully as if every other denomination resolves her own internal crisis through violence. What a diversion!

So being in the military is automatically to kill people from other nations? The Awake magazine article you have been refered to here says JWs are free to carry arms in defence of Jehovah's kingdom. I guess defending Jehovah's kingdom with arms does not involve killing fellow humans, right?
I can see that the only reason you guys don't like the military is not about the killings you accuse them of but the fact that they wear uniforms which you don't want to wear in pursuit of your quest to just appear outwardly different from others.
However, in all your conjectural merry-go-round you cleverly dodged the question as to what Jesus meant by promising his disciples that the Father Himself would some day restore the earthly kingdom of Israel to them.
You also cleverly avoided explaining why Paul addressed Erastus as a fellow believer despite he held a political position of City treasurership at that moment in question.
You guys are just dishonest and evasive.

Politics is not the only reason why people raise arms against each other. That is an outrageously fallacious claim. People take up arms over ancestral lands, self defence as advocated in your own magazine, etc. In fact in countries like Australia, Iceland, Greenland, Seychelles, etc, the citizens have never fought wars despite them choosing their leaders through political processes. You guys lie too much.

As for the bolded, thank God you yourself admit for the first time that those beliefs are difficult or even impossible to locate in the scriptures. So what else do you need? I thought the scriptures are enough? Why resort to your own human wisdom in speaking for God?

The passages you quoted in Isiah and Micha were in existence when John The Baptist did not ask his guest soldiers to resign from the army as a condition for the salvation which they inquired of him. He only warned them against using their powers as tools for oppression and pervertion of justice. That means there is something positive about the military which only the abuse of it could mess up.
The jailer whom Paul baptized in Philipi was a soldier yet after baptism Paul didn't ask him to resign.

The truth remains that virtually every biblical instruction could be twisted to mean something else with certain excuses. I can decide that it is unscriptural to pay taxes and defend it with the fact that the government will definitely use it to finance wars.
The taxes you pay to the Nigerian Government have been used to finance wars in other countries leading to the death of your fellow JWs over there. You should have been preaching against the payment of taxes on account of that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 10:00am On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
Well you have not ask anything tangible that requires a response. huh If you notice carefully, you'll perceive that i ONLY respond not just argue. undecided
You mean you have not seen the repeated demands here for just a passage in the Bible that military converts to the church resigned from the army thereafter?
You also mean you have not seen where the last conversation between Jesus and His disciples just before his departure to heaven coupled with Paul's greetings from Brother Erastus the City treasurer punctures JWs' claim that politicial participation is unscriptural?
You are a pretender.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 9:55am On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
It's referred to as optional since no one comes to you directly or privately to ask for donations,no specific amount like the tithings,no going about with donation pans to intimidate during meetings and everyone is seated comfortably without a charge. But all officiating members must not come to God's house empty handed for no genuine reason. The donations are for the upkeep of all our facilities NO ONE IS TO BECOME RICH DUE TO GOD'S WORK because Jesus said it's free!
Suggesting that the use of donation pans is intimidating is to suggest also that secular charity organizations like orphanages intimidate by going to churches to seek assistance financially on behalf of their wards.

If the bolded doesn't signify compulsion in JW, then what does it signify? And how exactly do you determine the genuineness of the reasons? In fact trying to determine the level of genuineness of the officiating minister's reason is an act of compulsion in itself. Why go so far in an organisation which supposedly forbids the use of force in getting donations?
Neither the Orthodox nor Pentecostal churches bother in the first instance trying to know any member's or officiating minister's reason for not paying offering let alone try to judge how genuine it is. See yourselves?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 9:20am On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
Sorry Mr Talktalk,please where is Deadlytruth? I think he is reasonable to respond to.
So calling someone Mr TalkTalk is a way to ask thought provoking and leading questions that catch in the web as you just said? Why not following your own advice?
Well, I have responded. Please where is that fellow of yours who has run away? Isn't he too supposed to be reasonable to respond now?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 9:10am On Aug 02, 2018
TATIME:
@Deadlytruth: If truthfully you want to know something you only need to ask straightforward, leading and thought provoking questions that will catch your audience like a cobweb. As for my claim regarding the atheists please go and check the tread entitled "How Jesus Christ was Created" by an atheist named Otemsapien. And as for Hairyrapunzel check the thread entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses, hundreds of child sex abuse in the religion" by mikeolu1 there you'll learn how true Christians can defend the wise counsels from our master with or without the Bible because as a REAL Christian you should be able to convince anybody about how beneficial Christianity is whether such a person agrees with the Bible or not!
For the first bolded, where did you keep this admonition when your co- JW was here using foul language and outright insults in defending his belief before he was kicked out by an Awake magazine citation which clearly contradicted his claim? Rather than so admonish him you kept cheering him up with tales of how you defeated atheists. You even went as far as bloating his ego by asking him to keep putting other Christians to shame. A man's character is not in his words but his actions.

For the second bolded, it is against the very avowed doctrine of your religious organisation. According to the contents of most Awake magazine editions I have personally read, you people's major emphasis is always that genuine Christians should rely on the Bible as the SOLE authority of God's word. I am therefore currently at loss as to this your newfound perception that God's word could be defended with or without the Bible. It seems when it favours your organisation you hammer on the exclusivity of the Bible as God's words, and when it doesn't favour it, you begin to conceed that God's words could be defended by some other means outside the Bible.

For the third bolded, it doesn't even make sense because a moslem for example believes that the Bible, especially the new testament, is a corruption of God's original word. He can show thousands of 'evidences' for that form the Bible itself. For example he would easily ask you to explain the relationship between God and Mary if the Sonship of Jesus is a reality as claimed by the Bible. Going by human Logic and Biological principles he wins.
But genuine Christians know and understand that conviction is not much by human arguments based on logic or science as JW advocates, but by the Holy Spirit whom Christ Himself promised would explain all things.

So you arrogate to yourself the Holy Spirit's powers for believing you alone can do the work of convincing others about Christianity.

You need to first satisfactorily answer the posers raised here against some of your doctrines before you direct me to to how you "moved" mountains in other threads.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 1:39pm On Aug 01, 2018
TATIME:
Eku oro aje o. grin grin grin
It is now time to speak vernacular, right? Is this your newest way of covering up your agony and shame of the crushing defeat you've just suffered in Hairapunzel's hands?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 1:16pm On Aug 01, 2018
TATIME:
How market na? wink wink wink
I am supposed to be the one asking you how market as your co- manipulator has been disgraced out with his tail tucked in between his legs. You have been shown an Awake magazine article in which your own very leaders advocate the taking up of physical arms in defence of your "Jehovah's" kingdom on earth and you are so shocked that all you can do is to resort to reverse psychology by asking me how market. How market ko, how shop ni!
No wonder those two JWs shot 13 persons dead in pursuit of establishing your Jehovah's kingdom on earth according to them.
So with all the knowledge with which you "defeated" atheists as you earlier boasted, you could not even help your brother Mr. Pacifist or Mr. Pacific Ocean while he was being massacred mercilessly by Hairapunzel?
Can't you now see that the boasting you did earlier was actually an empty one? The empty container makes the loudest noise. A truly knowledgeable person who defeated atheists would not boast the way you did. It means you actually didn't defeat those atheists but a further evidence that you will in future boast elsewhere about how you defeated everyone in this very thread whereas all you could do was to ironically ask your victors "how market?"
Clever liars!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 8:24pm On Jul 31, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
They are trained liars as they call the act of lying theocratic warfare. He doesn't even have biblical support for his doctrine.
Indeed they are trained manipulators and crafty seducers. Only evil men would rely on human literature and research to validate the Bible.
Only God can deliver their souls.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 8:19pm On Jul 31, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
You are still arguing that Jesus is a pacifist. Lol your leaders think otherwise. I no fit laff.
You can imagine their own leaders asking their members to take up arms in defending the theocratic kingdom of Israel but at the same time claiming that enlisting in the army is evil.
Which is worse? The secular army does not kill for God but for their countries. But according to JWs own publication the JW army kills for God.
See hypocrisy. Are JWs different from Muslim therefore?
I know the guy may come to the defence again by saying that the publication refers to figurative guns and bombs. Hehehehehe.....
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Deadlytruth(m): 8:05pm On Jul 31, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
OYA COME AND SEE WHAT YOUR LEADERS SAY ABOUT PACIFISM

THIS ONE IS FROM YOUR OWN MAGAZINE O

"The situation may be such that the only thing a person can do is to use whatever is at hand to protect himself or others. As a result, the attacker may receive a fatal blow. From the Scriptural standpoint, the one acting in self-defense would not thereby incur bloodguilt." Awake 1975 Sep 8 p.28 Should You Defend Yourself?

True Christians love peace. They stay completely neutral in the world's military, political, and ethnic conflicts. But, strictly speaking, they are not pacifists. Why? Because they welcome God's war that will finally enforce his will on earth-a war that will settle the great issue of universal sovereignty and rid the earth of all enemies of peace once and for all." [/b]Awake! 1997 May 8 p.23

They are not against war between the nations, and they do not interfere with the war efforts of the nations nor with anyone who can conscientiously join in such efforts. [b]They fight only when God commands them to do so, because then it is theocratic warfare.
Were Jehovah’s witnesses today to claim to be pacifists, it would mean for them to denounce all the pre-Christian witnesses of Jehovah who took up arms to uphold Jehovah’s universal sovereignty and his theocratic nation of Israel.
But this denunciation we cannot make. Jesus Christ never did so, and he is Jehovah’s greatest witness, who has earned the title “The faithful and true witness”. (Rev. 3:14) Jehovah himself is no pacifist. Neither are his witnesses such, although they are conscientious objectors." [/b]Watchtower 1951 Feb 1 p.70 [b]Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Not Pacifists
Meeeehhhhhhn.......! See finishing! Ol boy! I don die o! The guy don tear 440.
Make him come defend him pacifism now.
This reference shows clearly that the guy does not even have a full grasp of the doctrine he is sheepishly following and insulting others for.
I too showed him where his fellow JWs shot 13 persons dead in Russia for supposedly fighting for God's kingdom but Mr. My-Jesus-is-a-pacifist tried to twist the story. I know I once read this Awake edition on self defence in the late 90s but could just remember exactly which is week and that is why I mentioned it on this thread before now that JWs doctrine supports self defence.

Mr. Pacifist must be licking his wound now and wondering why Watchtower disgraced him like this with this publication. The guy has been confirmed as a follow-follow. He doesn't even know what is happening in the coven he belongs to but just ranting and insulting people on social media. Chai!!!!!
You have mauled, mowed down, dismantled and demolished the guy. You are a bulldozer. Twale!

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