Dekung's Posts
Nairaland Forum › Dekung's Profile › Dekung's Posts
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (of 20 pages)
toba: Im sure u failed to consider that there are lots of similarities between Islam and christianity. Muslims believes in Jesus christ as the christians do. Muslims believes in God like the christians do.Nope, muslims do not believe in Jesus as christians do. Muslims believe He was an ordinary prophet, not the son of God. Muslims do not believe in the resurection story. Bottomline christians and moslems believe in two different gods. The christian God has a son, the moslem God has none. The christian God sacrificed his son to himself so he wont be mad with humanity again, the moslems do not believe d crap. The christian God is Triune (3 in one like my hp printer), the moslem God is one indivisible entity. The moslem believe mohammad is the greatest prophet, christians think this is pure crap. Moslems believe you should kill anyone who speaks against islam, christians do not think it is neccessary. I caan go on and on but I guess I have made my point. Question: what if the God you reject is the true God. Answer: You burn in HELL forever But be of good cheer, heaven, hell and God(s) were created by men. |
mazaje: Nigerians have cultivated the habit of praying ALL of the time, they are CONSTANTLY praying for the country to get better, they pray to their various god(s) to touch touch the heart of their leaders and make them do the right things that will make the country great yet NOTHING has changed for the better despite the many many years of prayers and fasting. . . .Doesn't that show that your assertion of prayers and immediate difference is just a farce?. . .One very wise man said doing the same over and over again and expecting a different result is tantamount to insanity. Does is not then mean most Nigerians are insane. They pray for the country etc, nothing happens yet they keep praaying hoping that one day their prayers wld be answered. Bunch of re.tards. |
@OP, What is your source please!!! |
ATMC: Prior to my research, i was asked by my pst to stop paying tithe, he practically stood me up during one of our services nd asked if there was any other person in church who wants to join me, he then went on to say dt just because he isolated me from paying tithe dt it doesn't mean i'm no more loved dt he still loved me nd d church likewise. This is with respect to what pastor kun said about my being excommunicated, dt had already happened...what led to it; it happened on our firstfruit service early this year, so we listened to a msg excerpts from our president in which he was to expatiate on first fruit, when we were done, my pst then asked if there was still anybody who's still not clear, i raised my hand to his utter dismay anyway but d truth was dt there was practically no msg on firstfruit in dt excerpt, pst dt's d president just called out some people who didn't believe they should give first fruits nd he asked them their reasons nd how long they 've been in church nd then said they 've been in church dt long nd still don't believe they should give their first fruit nd then he said don't give it, keep it to urself nd dt was all, so there was no explanation nd some people felt same way but i needed to be cleared cos my boyfriend explained to me dt i wasn't suppose to give first fruit nd i disagreed so i wanted my pst to explain it outside d old testament since we 're living in d new so i can have a basis for doing what i do nd also explain to my friend (though he my pst didn't know my reason) so i was misunderstood nd isolated nd its been so since then but dt didn't change much cos i still go to church nd all dt...but now at least i'm cleared to an extent concernin dt issuePlease get yourself books and read. I will recommend a book 'The Beautiful Bride' by Muyiwa Oguntoyinbo. Muyiwa is a pastor in Ireland and works with citi bank. He actually did a good expose on the issues bothering on all the fraaudulent givings in our churches today. |
Joagbaje: It is wiser to study than to do blind criticism. There are several sabbaths in he bibleWhy not quote the scriptures that says there are several sabbaths. |
... that he died on the preparation day (eve of sabbath) Sabbath day of the week cannot shift but passover can shift like xmas day of the week can shift but sunday worship day of most churches cannot shift. True passover may have coincided with sabbath like xmas could fall on a sunday but that doesnt mean sunday automatically moved to thursday. Pls halt this deception forthwith! If he died on wednesday it will be stated expressly not implied |
Joagbaje: The misunderstanding came fromOga JoAgbaje pls do not try to twist truth to falsehood and vice versa. That sabbath day is a fixed day in the week, the day is sacrosanct however in Leviticus 23:4-8 we can see that the passover begins on the 14th day of the first month. Its like we know that xmas is on the 25th day of the 12th month but sunday worship day does not shift. The bible stated expressly.... |
Sorry peeps, where in the monotheistic texts (Bible, Torah and Koran) was the concept of freewill first used. Was freewill written in any of these texts or was it just another extra biblical concepts coined by contemporary christians. |
God created Man, Angels etc. He then created and installed a programme called freewill in Man and Angels including Lucifer. Freewill corrupted man and Lucifer and made them to sin against God, yet God is going arround blaming man and lucifer for sinning to the extent of investing heavily in a firey torture chamber where he will torture men and angels who allowed themselves to be corrupted by freewill. This God is a just and merciful God! |
Pastor AIO: This is a load of rubbish.of course it will be a load of rubbish since it was lagosshia, a moslem, who posted the article. However if you study the contents of the article well you will notice it was originally posted by a christian who dared to take the pain to delve into the depths of the origins of Christianity. |
yommy2sure: Sabbath was not sunday originally. Sunday was use as a day to worship the pegan sun-god, it was the emperor constantain wen he accepted christianity that tried to unite christianity with the pegan religeon of those days hence sabath was moved to sunday to worship the sun-of-God instead of the sun-god, hence the name sun-day. Jesus did not die on a friday! And the apostles who founded or established christianity did not celebrate easter, christmas, new year...these are all pegan celebrations infused into xtianity. The original celebrations in the old and new testament are passover, feast of the terbanacles etc. U can google some of the truth behind this things and read up for yourself!We would need some citation or source reference for this especially the spot at which you claimed Jesus did not die on a friday. Was it in google,wiki or yahoo answers you got the info from. Kindly quote your source, thank you? |
oloriooko: @ dekung |
oloriooko: @ dekungCheck Matthew 27:61-66, Mark 16:41-47, Luke 23:53-56 and John 19:30-42. I hope these would help |
oloriooko: @ dekung |
oloriooko: @ dekungSo sorry I cannot readily direct you to the exact spot in the bible as am responding with my phone and also do not have a bible handy now. However, you can read up the crucifiXion accounts in matthew, mark and luke. Its there both in the NIV and KJV versions of the bible. Once I lay my hands on a bible I'll hit you up. |
oloriooko: If Jesus actually died on a Friday as believed by many people then He couldn't have risen on Sunday morning if He did spend three days in the grave!!!Jesus died on a friday according to the gospel accounts. At least 3 of them claimed he was crucified on the preparation day i.e a day before the sabbath day |
If you wash your hands with a particular native soap while having a bout with stomach pain you will be relieved If you stand on a motar while it raining you will get struck by lightening If you whistle at night a snake would pay you a visit This last one made me realise most things are sheer coincidence: When my daughter turned 10 months, my mother in law was worried that she has not started walking so she went to the village and complained to some people who told her to get white chalk, ground it into powder and mix it with soap. She was to bath my daughter using the mixture of soap, chalk, administered with a local sponge and her body should be rinsed with water warmed by the morning sunlight. she brought the chalk and native and local sponge but for one reason or the other she couldnt perform the silly ritual before she went back home but she promised to come back the following week and bathe for my daughter. Before that week ran out, my daughter had started walking. Assuming she bathed her with the chalky mixture and my girl starts walking she would have been propagating the news that it was the chalk and luke (sunny) warm water. This is how superstition is birthed! |
chychy: How come everyone wants 2 die in their sleep? I ain't an exception though!!!!!!!!!!!!That way they wont even know they are dead (until they wake up in the morning - looool) |
@OP, I must confess that I appreciate your maturity in addressing issues about the theist and atheist which m ore than I can say for othe believers, owever you must understand that most atheist were once CHRISTIANS (and a few moslems) and are therfore very familiar with biblical doctrines. Some of us have evn picked up arguments with people of other beliefs (athiests inclusive) and have been left with more questions than answers. You may be correct when you said being an atheist takes more effort than being a thiest but that is perculiar to our environment. If we were in an environment where God, spirituality and religion are so sensitive you will understand that it doesnt take much not to care if God existed or not. If the stories in the Bible were subjected to some common sense they will not stand. Take for instance the story of Noah and his flood. Except you want to agree that the flood was more localised than globalised you would agree that the concept of a global flood cannot add up. Why? 1) How did the Polar bear, grizzly bear, Kangaroo, koala bear, ant eater, sloth, panda, panther, lion, tiger etc move from their natural habitat through the hot desert in order to ride with Noah and survive anywhere else apart from their antural habitat, knowing fully well that most of these animals cannot survive any where else. Some of them do not even breed in captivity. The polar bear for instance would take years to move from the north pole to mesopotamia where the ark was supossedly constructed. 2) What happened to all the waters after the flood. The earth is a closed system hence the water should be somewhere within the system. A calculation done by some scientists confirmed that the volume of water required to flood the whole world covering the highest mountains (mt. everest) is about 30 times the volume currently available. i will stop here for now...... |
@OP All your claims are a product of your thought and it cannot substantiated by any proof. You are trying to interprete the mind of the writers of the bible but they do not add up. I have severally heard claims by thiests of the christian extraction say that science is corroborating the bible especially at the point where they say God Sits above the circles of the earth. You and I know there is a difference between a circle and a sphere and am sure people existing then could observe the difference. Also in Genesis 1:1, the bible say 'in the beginning, God created the Heaven and the earh' (KJV) Check the link below for most of your answers. http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/astronomy.html http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter7.html |
This Dr. Barret or whatever he is called just told a big lie. How did he come to that conclussion? Did he conduct any experiment over time? My problem with most religious people is the speed with which they jump at any 'scientific' report, provided it supports their belief, which subjecting such postulation to critical reasoning. If children were born with faith how come they still ask questions about God? Every human being is born agnostic. S/he has no idea of anything and as s/he grows up indoctrination makes him/her believe whatever it is he finally cmes to believe. Barret claimed if children were left in the desert to raise themselves they will still worship God. Lie! The Piraha people do not even believe in any deity, they dont even care if or not one exists. They live their lives one day at a time and they can be said to be one of the happiest people on earth. Every child is born without the knowledge of any deity until his parents tell him 'Jesus is the way, truth and life.....' or 'there is only one God and Mohammed is the messenger of that God' |
[quote author=A-Omega]Did Jesus Really Exist? Where is the proof from non-Bible sources that he is real? These questions and others like it are often asked by Bible skeptics and atheists alike. This article will show that not only is there historical evidence (from secular sources as well as Christian) that Jesus Christ was real and existed, but also that Jesus Christ is the most documented and historically verifiable figure in antiquity. http://beginningandend.com/jesus-exist-historical-evidence-jesus-christ/[/quote]Historical sources prove nothing of Jesus existence. It is even almost impossible when you subject his existence to genetic query. In genetics of human, a physically normal human being has 23 pairs of chromosomes 23 from the father (who determines the gender by either contributing the X or Y chromosomes) and 23 from the mother. If Jesus existed he would have just 23 from Mary alone and he probably would be malformed. You cn argue that he could still have been possible but look people with downsyndrome, they have just one extra pair of chromosomes hence the reason for their look. The above then raises the question 'where did Jesus get the remaining 23 chromosomes to make up the complete set', if he got it from the holy spirit then the holy spirit is 'material' hence could be touched and seen nd is carbon based because it simple means the holy spirit has cells and functions like a normal human or is even a normal human because he provided the Y chromosome that made jesus a man. This thus makes me conclude that genetically speaking Jesus' existence was impossible and if he existed then he wasnt divine. |
Where is GEJ and his co lobbyists? Maybe he should go and lobby Obama like he lobbied for Dickson in Bayelsa and Tukur in PDP chairmanship |
Maz, u are genius! |
Chikena! |
[size=15pt]THE PROBLEM WITH ISLAM[/size] Due to arrogance and ignorance, most muslims don’t understand why the world is upset with them. Even those who have been educated in liberal western countries, can’t see why non-muslims feel uncomfortable with islam. Most muslims keep insisting islam is the "religion of peace". What they ignore is that historically, and currently, islam has caused more wars, more death and destruction than any other religion. Most muslims read history very selectively. They do not see the colossal damage islam has done to world heritage, history, culture and religion. They assume that once the message of islam is delivered to a nation, they must accept it, no questions asked. They also assume that anything that came before islam was unimportant and not worth remembering or worthy of research. As a result, they miss out on not world heritage, but also their own. Most muslims have not read the history, not atleast from the side of the victims of their invasions. They have also not read the chronicles of their own ruler, generals and warlords since the dawn of islam to realise how many millions have died, been enslaved or otherwise deprived of their life and liberty to further the cause of islam. Islam was spread at the point of the sword and that is an undisputable fact. With the promise of victory on earth or heavenly maidens on death, men living in wastes of Arabia fanned out like locust, decimating the prosperous kingdoms in the middle east. Within 80 years after the prophet’s death, with viral speed, Arab armies went searching for loot, slaves and new converts. From China to Spain and Russia to Africa. Their ruthless, “no holes barred”, method of warfare took everyone by surprise. This was probably the first time “religion” was used to wage war on a global scale. Usually, wars were fought for territory, economics or revenge. For the first time, war was being waged specifically to make people “submit to the will of God”. And all this carnage in the name of a “merciful allah” and his “peace”! No one could grasp the fanatical nature of the new converts. Army of islam devastated the lands they took over. Converts were made from conquered people. Having lost everything, including family, they often had no choice but to convert. Once converted, they joined the armies of their conquerors to regain lost wealth, new wives and new lands. It was a domino effect in which the victims became perpetrators of carnage. But, the armies of islam did not have it all their way. The Mongols decimated them and destroyed Bagdad. Many others put up brave resistance and held back the tide of islam. India held out for 500 years before letting the muslim armies cross the Sindu into north and central India. China did well to keep the muslims on its fringes only. Spain regained it independence and threw out the Moors after 700 years of brutal rule. Muslim expansion was halted by the rise of the Western Powers. Colonial expansion of European countries led to break up of the Ottoman Empire, destroying the mirage of a global caliphate. US and UN forces have shown time and again how muslim armies can be defeated with relative ease. Even the tiny state of Israel has shown it can defeat the combined armies of Islamic nations. India has defeated Pakistan in 3 wars and has survived several major terrorist attempts. Even after conquest, not everyone submitted to the will of allah and significant proportions of the natives continued to carry on with their ancestral religion of Christianity, Judaism and Zoroastrianism. In Indiaa, Hindus and Jains held on to their beliefs for 800 years despite crippling taxes, unfair laws and relentless government drive to force people to convert. After the muslims, it was the christians who ruled it for nearly 150 years and now it’s the atheist socialist government which rules India. Yet, Hindus and Jains have held on to their beliefs. Hindus, Jains and Sikhs have survived despite all the efforts of Islam to whipe them out. Sadly, where-ever muslims rule, they destroy the native cultures. Local history is destroyed, local arts are wiped out. Bahamian Buddhas are a case in point. Local language is mixed with Arabic to create a new bastard language that does not do justice to either. Dress and food is modified to Arabic standards. Women are subjugated and forced to cover their body up, least the “faithful be incited to lust”. What does that say about muslim men if they can’t control their passions on seeing the arm or leg of a woman ? Are they so lacking in self-control ? But the arabic culture dominates and all women must cover up regardless of weather, culture or tradition. The idea of a united muslim brother-hood is a false one. They fight internally as much as they fight externally. There are many sects in islam and each calls the other “heretic”. Muslims may unite to fight non-muslims, but otherwise, they fight each other in name of their own brand of islam, land, tribe, ethnicity etc. Despite all the hype, there is no real unity in the muslim world. Iran Iraq war is a classic example of how they fought each other for a long time, to the benefit of none. Iraq’s conquest of Kuwait was another mute point in lack of brotherhood. Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, they are all burning with muslims killing muslims for petty gains. Even in Iraq and Afghanistan where foreign troops dominate, muslim insurgents are killing more muslims than foreigners ! Not by accident, but by design ! Revenge, vendetta, ransom, any excuse to kill and cause mayhem. Islam presents the greatest threat to the world with its doctrine of Jihad. Jihad is islam’s insistence that everyone bends to its way of thinking. Despite the fact that 1400 years on, they have not been able to convince or conquer 75 % of the world to their brand of thinking, they keep persisting, hoping that one day, people will agree - willingly or unwillingly - to their creed. http://pushti-marg.net/bhagwat/problem-islam.htm |
Whymee: Statistics shows that numbers of women in the world is higher than that of men, it's unfortunate, the western world condemned the practice of polygamy, but fail to bring an alternative except condom.With reference to the bolded, where did you get your statistics from? Must you lie to proove a stoopeed point? In fact the whole thing you posted is all a pack of r.ubbish, why can't you just use your brain before you put your paws on the keyboard? Was it Islam that legalised polygammy? Polygammy has always been a part of African culture, and if that is something you want to be proud of that your blood thirsty religion has contributed to humanity then it has not contributed anything. |
this @KNOWALL guy doesnt seem to know the difference between a 'theist' and an 'atheist' yet he claims he is a knowall. MuMu |
harakiri: @DekungBros, the opening paragraph was just meant to get mclatunji's attention not praise, I just wanted to massage his ego. I also know that atheism/agnostism has nothing to do with evolution and that was what i was trying tompoint out to the guy where I said there had always been ateist before the postulation of the evo theory just some 200 yrs ago. So bros sheath your sword, am an agnost |
Sister fatie: @dekung do raise ur children to believe in god i'm not gonna do dat 2 mine that is if can even get a non religious man in dis god-crazy country.I will give them a balanced life. I will allow them to learn about religion and then they can decide whatever they want. If I deny them the knowledge of God, I would be commiting the same crime the theists commit. I wouldnt indoctrinate my children to believe or not to believe in God |
Sister fatie: @emofine nope i'm stuck in d closet 4 now. When i get older and have finished my education i'll definetly come out.I feel you sis. Just lie low and keep updating yourself and keep pretending to be religious until you earn your freedom because your parents may stage you death in the name of religious honour killing. I come from the christian extraction and still at my age and being married I still have to pretend to people when it comes to my religious belief/unbelief. |
