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naija_swag:
@edicolove
its because of nigerian programmers like you that makes the companies in Nigeria still import their softwares from abroad.what did you learn in one month,is it java basics or the apis or j2ee,what about design patterns in java and data structures and algorithms in java.I hope you can teach someone all these in one month.only java basics can take a newbie a long time to take in talk more of becoming a real programmer after one month.

I do not like to exchange words with people online because anybody can just post online. its cheap. Like a friend usually says, talk is cheap: email is cheaper. I have ben programming for over 15 years, just for the records and I have to my credit

A hotel Management app. That has been used by 8 hotels. I wont mention names cos its not ethical
A PBX call acounting and billing app used by several orgs
2 Mobile devices apps to be launched in the next week or 2
Several other apps I dont need to mention.
I have made presentations in conferences around Africa for my works.
Dont need to brag but you will be impressed with my CV. So dont tell me about foreign software. I have beating them to it several times in open competition for customers. So I know exactly what I am saying.

The duration it takes to learn programming is very relative depending on your IQ and other factors. I learnt pascal in one month. I learnt Java in less. I can program in C/C++, Delphi, Visual Foxpro, Perl, PHP, VB, Cobol and fortran. And when I say I can program, I am not talking about popping up a GUI form and calling it an app. I am talking about all the complex stuff from networking codes to reading barcodes, PBX machines, accessing system resources, reading and manipulating databases, optimizing for speed and security, working with triggers, writing multi tier apps with application servers and more. So before you post replies on a board, be careful who you are talking to, because you don't know who they are.

The reason some Nigerian companies go for foreign software is not because the foreign software is better. It is because of several factors I can tell you from experience.

1. Companies like hype and presentation. I dont blame them for that. But most growing Nigerian software companies cant match that.
2. Do you know it takes teams of up to 500 programmers to design an app abroad? Some foreign guys who reviewed my software asked how many people were on my team. When I told them it was just me, they couldnt believe it. I sounded crazy to them. They couldnt understand how I man did all that work. But thats Naija for you and that what we do.
3. Nigerian companies are paid far less for the same level of application that their foreign competitors. A Nigerian company will pay a Nigerian programmer say 500k for a software with even more functionality than a foreign software they will pay 5million. Simply because of the oyibo syndrome. In my hotel software for example, I had about 5 modules bundled as one and these modules come as separate software from foreign vendors and cost a fortune each. Even the cost of installation of the foreign one was more than what the client were willing to pay in some cases

I need not say too much but just needed to educate you on these issues a bit. Dont underestimate Nigerians. we are very smart and very good. We lost it in many ways as a country but that does not take away our abilities from us .

God bless Nigeria1

The Match also exposed ManU's defence too much and ManU does not have a good midfield. They will suffer dearly against a team like Barca or Madrid. They depend too much on the wings. I guess Fergie will have to work on that

Interestingly Ferguson does not share most of you ManU fans opinion



http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11661_7187494,00.html

Also match stats says something different

Possession
Man Utd50%Chelsea50%

Attempts on target
Man Utd7 Chelsea9

Attempts off target
Man Utd5 Chelsea11

Corners
Man Utd4 Chelsea10

Fouls
Man Utd11 Chelsea12

But United took their chances and Chelsea did not. But the match showed The 2 clubs are on the same level. ManU is more together obviously because the new players came in on time and have blended more. Chelsea looks like a new team in the making and the new coach showed he is still tryin to determine his best eleven.

Kolababa:
I am very surprised to be reading on this forum people praising OBJ for "peacemaking". Instead of us to condemn his PDP government for lacking the will to curtail excesses of a terrorist group.
Nowhere in the world do you negotiate with terrorists. Then what happen to the FBI, CIA, SSS and Police investigations on UN House bombing when the family of the Late Yusuff demanded for the release of all the arrested Boko Haram members?
Also does that means that anybody that is aggrieved should go and acquire exploives and start bombing everywhere. Last two weeks, I read it on paper that Mopol unjustly killed one OPC leader in Ibadan, does that mean OPC should start bombing everywhere to protest against this?
When their brother Abacha unjustly hanged Ken Saro Wiwa and other eight Ogonis, do Ogonis go ahead and start bombing everywhere because they want justice?
What about MKO Abiola? Does that means that MKO children should go ahead and acquire bombs with their father's wealth and start bombing everywhere because they want justice?
What about common man Police kill everyday unjustly on the road? Does it mean that their family should be engaging in acts of terrorism because they want justice?
The sponsors of this terrorism should have been dealth with first to serve as deterrent to others before any meaningless peacemove by OBJ.
I suspect OBJ is trying to cover up things for his olg friends that might have been manipulated in the ongoing UN House investigations.
You know Yoruba say " awo ni o maa ngbe awo nigbowo".
This is OBJ's move.  terrorism because they want justice?
The sponsors of this terrorism should have been dealth with first to serve as deterrent to others before any meaningless peacemove by OBJ.
I suspect OBJ is trying to cover up things for his olg friends that might have been manipulated in the ongoing UN House investigations.
You know Yoruba say " awo ni o maa ngbe awo nigbowo".
This is OBJ's move.

1. So countries that have been fighting with terrorism for years now, dont have the will to?
2. So OBJ is now trying to cover the arse of people that hate him and have been trying to bring him down?


Why dont you guys try to make sense sometimes

Orblonde:
The connection between public office holders/corruption and Boko haram pacification is that the motive of a corrupt official is not based on patriotism and so he will not be interested in dealing with the real issues, i.e. creating jobs etc. He would rather want to keep a lid on things so as to ensure the statuesque for stealing remains

Wow! I didnt know we had psychics who can read peoples minds here in NL. Please what will i eat for breakfast tomorrow? Go on, tell me.

^^^I know its very hard but you can overcome the bitterness if you really work at it. say it, THANK YOU OBJ! There you go. easy easy!

Nigerians are the most bitter and ungrateful people in the world. Why is it so difficult to say well done to a man who has done something good? \it is like some of you will explode if you say well done or thank you. Please go on and say it. Its not so difficult. Take a deep breath and let it out. SAY THANK YOU OBJ! There you go It wasnt that difficult and it feels good really.

So what is the connection between public office holders/corruption and Boko haram pacification?

^^^So the FG should disobey the court order? and you guys will come back here saying the president does not follow court orders. The FG has appealed. If the higher court upturns the judgement of the lower court, then thats it. If they uphold it, then it is not an option for the FG. The law is the law.

We can discuss it. My email is edicolove@gmail.com Pascal and Java are my 2 best languages. Cobol and fortran are academic languages. They are not really in use anymore but if you need them for your academics, I can teach you.

@naija_swag

You dont need 6 months to start thinking in Java. I learnt it in less than 1 month. Off course, I was already programming in other languages, but it still is not that difficult if you have a good teacher to guide you. In India, there are literary programmers hawking their skills on the streets. The problem with Naija is that we have already decided that these things are beyond us and it is wrong because they are not.

@op

Please the title of this thread is wrong and we should not allow NL to become another Saharareporters. If this site become like Saharareporters, then where do you want us to go next? You posted a topic that is completely at variance with the report you posted. The report indicates a court awarded a 100 million compensation to the BH leader's family but you posted that they are demanding 100 million. The title is very misleading please. You need to pass the truth to Nigerians, not sensational half truths.

Thank you

We must understand the difference between ethno/religious crisis/conflict and normal criminal activities like kidnapping, armed robbery and even normal terrorism like you find in many other countries or the world. What boko aram is doing is terrorism, but it has its root in ethtno/religious differences. If you just roll out the tanks in an ethno/religious conflict, you stand the risk of genocide. In as much as those doing the bombings should be found and prosecuted, the government should also address the root issues that encourage its rise and spread. One thing we should commend OBJ for, is that he has done what the so called northern leaders, IBB, Sultan, Buhari, etc could not do. If you allow yourself to be filled with hatred, so much that you cannot acknowledge a good thing but are quick to bash it just because you dont like the person doing it, then you are worse than the person you are accusing

Chubhie:
So much for FBi clearance. To your tent everyone Obj is on top of it. GEJ should please man up and hold his joystick for direction.

So what exactly have you said now? Can you make sense please?

Why is it that most of you cant read? Is this how bad our educational system has become?

The report says a court asked that they be compensated. A law court. What dont you people understand there? Is English language so difficult to understand? The report didnt say GEJ or OBJ promised them any money. A court ordered the compensation. If you are not happy with that, your anger should be at the judge. IS GEJ now the judge? How thus that mean GEJ is negotiating with terrorist? If the court of appeal upholds the judgement, are you saying GEJ should not comply? Why is Nairaland filled with people who cant read and cant argue intelligently?

Please the poster should delete this thread. It is helping to spread false rumors

Jusr spoke to my brother in Uniben. The story is a hoax. The situation is that there is a scare and an unconfirmed  rumour that T.B . Joshua prophesied a bomb blast around 2 to 3pm in Uniben today. So there is some panic, as expected, among students and some have actually vacated the school. But it is all a rumour. Please let us not help spread rumors. One of the goals of terrorists is to create panic in society. Their biggest weapon is actually fear. We must not give them the satisfaction they crave by helping to spread their rumors.

God bless Nigeria!

^^^So why did you not say the same thing when other non ACN governors made similar statements. You called them names then and said they were just talking and they would not do it. But when an ACN governors said it, you say it is vision, Why do you use double standards then. Is it the usual hypocrisy and partisanship? For Eko-Ile, he is known for blind partisanship and hypocrisy so he isnt news.

1. The idea to industrilise their state has already been muted by over 15 governors. Amosun is not the first.
2. Some people are still saying 10,000 industries. That is fantasy not reality.
3. Industries and companies are not the same thing. Stop using them interchangeably
4. Creating space for industries is not enough to make people come to your state and start an industry. They have like 36(state) choices. There has to be things that will make them come including:

Raw Materials (Ogun has very few natural resources)
Power (Ogun has no power plant)
Rail system/transportation facilities (Ogun has no airport or seaport)
Finance (Ogun is not a wealthy state)

If he is really sincere, he should pick achievable goals and grow from there (crawl before you walk). Ogun is more like a Lagos spillover. He could take advantage of the facilities Lagos has. But to go to press and say he will increase the number of industries in Ogun State to about 10,000 in the next four years, means he is not sincere. Just doing propaganda. The good thing though is that this page has been booked marked. We will refer to it in 2015.

^^^I havent seen any post where beaf said that. He did say PDP is going through reformation which is a fact.

^^^ My brother, you are even kind enough to call it optimism. Its just fool hardiness. He cannot even achieve 1000 industries in 8 years. Dont mind the folly.

Pukkah:
Try and pass your message across without insults or abuses.

If you consider them insults and abuses, fair enough, I apologise.

Demdem:
1) There is none of such. read the report again:

The current administration of Governor Ibikunle Amosun is determined to increase the number of industries in Ogun State to about 10,000 in the next four years.

The number of companies, which currently is about 1,500, is expected to increase, owing to the creation of a one-stop shop in the Ministry of Commerce and Industry, which will reduce bureaucratic bottlenecks for prospective investors.

The st[b]ate Commissioner for Commerce and Industry, Chief Bimbo Ashiru, disclosed this[/b] during a tour of industries at the Ado Odo-Ota axis of the state.

Chief Ashiru maintained that adequate infrastructure had been put in place to assure investors of optimum returns on their investments, urging them to always reciprocate government’s goodwill through prompt payment of their taxes.

“T[b]he state already has a bad representation of being one of the worst locations to site a business, but the present administration is poised to change that perception through the creation of this one-stop shop for prospective investors in the state,” he stated.[/b]

2) So GEJ's promise to build Airports in all states of the federation is realistic eh? Good for u.

3) i will allow residents on this thread of Osun to comment on that however kindly give evidence that he spends most of his time in lagos than Osun. In the absence of that please stop peddling lies like BEAF.

Their target is to get as much as 10,000 industries into the state. if after 4yrs what they could achieve is 6000 or even 4500, its still worty of commendation considering the numerous challenges the Nigerian ecomomy gives to would be investors.

So how is what you just quoted different from what I wrote? dem say see oyibo, yo say na fada. Na wa to you o!

And moreover, industries and companies are 2 different things. Lagos has thousands, if not millions of companies. But they dont have 10, 000 industries. If Ogun state creates 10, 000 industries, that will mean that geographical area has the highest density of industries  in the whole of Africa, Europe and the Middle east. Only Asian countries can boast of such density of industries in a similar land area/space.

This is becoming very typical of ACN governors and their supporters. Propaganda after propaganda

1. How can a governor say he will build 10, 000 industries in 4 years. The guy is so silly. Even Lagos as big and industrialized as it is cannot boast of 10, 000 industries. The whole of Agbara and Ilupeju industrial areas plus Oba Akran and Agindingbi and environs cant even boast of 300 industries. And these are the main industrial zones of Lagos. Do you know what 10, 000 industries is? Foolish propaganda

2. When ACN governors talk unrealistic propaganda, ACN supporters quickly jump in here and start praising them and saying trash. But GEJ promises realistic stuff, they say its all talk and promises, no action. Non of them have even bothered to access their governors 100 days in office but are quick to jump on GEJ. Hypocrites!

3. This was how Aregbesola came out and said he has provided 20, 000 jobs. He gathered youths into a hall, invited music artists and comedians to come and perform to them and  said he was training them. Now the youths are back on the streets. They will soon stone him. He now spends almost the whole week in Lagos.

But they will continue to expose themselves. 10, 000 industries ko. This is the height of ignorance and stupidity.

NLanders at it again.

1. This article was not a post by Jonathan. It was a news report by a newspaper house
2. The report said the foreign agencies are unearthen something
3. The report said they have leads. You dont arrest anyone based on a lead. You have to have clear evidence or the courts will acquit them. Word of mouth is not enough to arrest or persecute anyone
4. The SSS can not just name names like some of you want. Security does not work like that. They will make arrests when there are clears evidence to nab people

Please give them time to do their job

@Gbawe!!!

Why are you desperately trying to fetch water with a basket. Cant you see it wont work? Cant you just give it up? You want to drown first? Haba! Trying to paint ACN as holy is a f00ls en-devour. Shekena!

^^^I wouldnt have normally replied you because you are not an intelligent person but for the benefit of the one I wrote the reply to, i will say briefly:

First the discuss was not about PDP or ACN but the guy replied thus

"Do you think the main importers of Diesel ( PDP guys who bankrolled GEJ's election)"

That was a completely wrong and blanket assumption/generalization with no facts of any kind to back it up. So I simply showed him that one of the biggest generator guys in Nigeria was first in PDP, then he went on to join ACN, not just as a member but as their flag bearer and then he came back to PDP where he was soundly defeated in the primaries. That ACN did not just accept him but also put him forward as their flag bearer even after he was acclaimed to have been very corrupt (right from his days in the customs) makes them very privy to its actions. They gave him a full hand of fellowship and approval which makes them full accomplices in his corrupt ways and mindset and they became partners of thought. You cannot make someone the flag bearer of your party if you do not accept his ways and ideologies.

So I dont need to say much. PDP, ACN, CPC are all birds of the same feathers. Tinubu himself is a know thief and Toronto governor. If you dont like it, fry your left toe in oil and eat it. ACN are a bunch of criminals as much as PDP. Many ACN candidates in the last elections (like the Akwa Ibom governorship candidate) were former PDP criminals who only switched to ACN because they didnt get the PDP ticket. Even in Edo state, most of the former PDP members have defected to ACN because it is the ruling party. That is he reality of Nigerian politics. There are no permanent friends or parties. If for any reason today, Tinubu is somehow schemed out of ACN, he will go and join PDP and he would not show any shame. Such is Nigerian politics for you. Again if you dont like it, take a broom and go and sweep 3rd mainland bridge. shior!

You still miss the big point. It is the private sector that must generate electricity if you want efficiency. Enron and GE in America are private companies. So saying FG should generate this or that is not going to work. It must become a business if it must be sustained.

And why do you always assume that every corrupt person out there must be PDP. The chairman of Mikano (one of the biggest generator sellers in Nigeria ) is Atiku whom the ACN featured as their 2007 presidential candidate and was in ACN until he fell out with Tinubu. He came back to PDP to fight it out with GEJ and he lost woefully. So why your assumptions?

Aregbesola is always in Lagos and always around Alimosho. Ask those who live there, they will confirm it. I wont say too much

Demdem:
^^^^^^

Rubbish, how far have they gone to maximise the existing laws for our benefits pending the enactment of new laws? so till new laws are enacted, no show eh?

So tell me how you can maximize the following laws that existed:

1. Only the FG can generate power and distribute
2. You cannot sue the power authority i.e PHCN
3. Even if power is generated from a private source, it must be fed into the national grid for PHCN to distribute
4. PHCN can distribute as they so wish
5. There was no independent collecting agency so investor will find if difficult to get their investment
6. PHCN will have to provide power at the mercy of NNPC wherever they use gas to generate power

There you go, fire on

Demdem:
I'm also not ignorant about the workings of power myself however i disagree with you as per the bolded above. they are spinning strategies of PDP. dont fall for such.
This will be a good point to start from:

The point mentioned are not the spinning strategies of PDP. You can ask any knowledgeable PHCN official or someone with good working knowledge of the energy sector. They are fact. A city with 2,500 megawatts with the right laws and regulations in place will enjoy more power than the same city with  3,000megawatts with the wrong laws and regulations in place.

EngrBright:
No matter what, the test of one's literacy is his command of English and by extension his ability to communicate effectively. That, the president is lacking in many ways than one.

So why did you support Buhari? So intelligence is only found in English language? Does the whole world speak English? So all those countries that dont speak English are illiterate or unintelligent? What a terrible assertion and mindset.

Let me give you a better view of the power sector cause I have som eknowledge of that. OBJ, as much as most folks keep giving him the sticks started 11 power projects around the country to increase the megawatt. Some of them were at an advanced stage when he left. Yaradua came in and started this thign of revoking and reversing everything OBJ did. Govrnment is continuity so I wonder why that happened. I dont want to digress. So for 3 years, the whole projects were halted. Fact. Some of them started deteriorating. When GEJ took over, many of these projects where mere shadows of themselves. The government had to start planning for them all over again. As at January this year, Nigeria had less than 2,500 megawatt. Now the total output is around 3,900 megawatt. The reason the president said he preferred not to talk about megawatt yesterday is because people get it all wrong when they talk about megawatt. These are just technical terms but there are many factors to consider when you talk about electricity. for example, the use of pay as you go meters will automatically make more power available to more people and places. Also, Some cities need more power than others. And like the president said yesterday, the power and energy laws in the country have to be reviewed to even begin with before things can really work. Example is the fact that the gas that will power a gas plant comes from the NNPC which is under the ministry of petroleum. The tariffs that the private power producers will charge have to be covered by law. Even the laws of Nigeria vests the sole authority to generate power on the FG which is now being reviewed. Do you know that by the past laws, you could not sue NEPA? So there very many issues that must be sorted out else you will have chaos after chaos. Litigation after Litigation. We are in a democracy, never forget.

So it isnt just about megawatt. It is much more. If the laws are not reviewed for example, Lagos state can build a power plant and the light will be diverted by the FG to another state. So like the president said yesterday, the laws must protect those who produce the power so they will have first choice of use and be able to do business with the power they generate. So the process is cumbersome but with a little patience, we can get there