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helinues:
The non indigenes voters in Lagos state are not upmto 500k Yes or No?

Answer that first before doing your as usual derailing

Non indigenes voters in Lagos should be close to 1-2M if we are to sample the entire population. By none indigenes I mean all non-Yorubas. There is a huge population of almost all Nigerian tribes in Lagos but I must say, you can't populate a state more than its aboriginals. Let me give you a solid example.

During the early 20's, Okitikpukpa and neighboring towns in Ondo received high influx of Urhobos due to the palm oil boom, it was so much that every Urhobo family had one or two persons in these eastern territory exploiting oil. But when a census was conducted, the Urhobos were just slightly above 20-30% of the entire population.

Give and take, the non-Yorubas should hover around 30% of the entire population, so the higher the non-indigenous population, the larger their voting Strength

Owologbo:
You too like noice.
Na woman almost disgraced your agege in 2019 if not for the massive rigging in ughelli.
After 2023 election, you will rest.

You forgot Ibori delivered Ethiope west and some districts to Oboro on a platter. Even at that, Agege still knocked her out.

You talk of rigging, tell me one place they don't rig in Nigeria. I don't know why some of you are bias when it comes to sincere political discussions.

PaChukwudi44:
In delta they use stone to defeat people with AK-47.Just ask around.As the popular saying says warri no de carry last.

Na who deputy senate president epp

You talk like Omoagege is a stranger. He is one of the most popular Candidate. Only Edevbie would have given him a run for his money.

Being an Ibori disciple, he is sure of background supports from displeased PDP agents. He just needs to pick a deputy from either of the other region. The Ijaws are already uninterested and won't put much effort in this election.

Sheriff isn't popular in Delta Central. Delta North votes alone can't get him anywhere. He should start proper consultations and reunifications if he is to have a clear lead. Meeting with Ibori and others and see how they annoint him.

Already, majority of Edevbie's disciples are already camping with Omoagege and be rest assured, he won't align with Sheriff.

Buckeyemedia1:
I agree with you, that is why they say politics is intriguing, it should have been Ughelli North vs Ughelli North for Pdp to stand a chance, cos I believe most Urhobos from the Ughelli Local Government side believe it should be coming there way.

Back to Urhobo Kingdom, where the Ovie of Ughelli resides.

If it was a popularity contest I say Omo Agege wins, & I believe Urhobo Progress Union UPU will definitely support Omo Agege.

Urhobos will tell Okowa, you can’t choose our Governor for us, Urhobo man ibori put Okowa in power, now Okowa wants to choose our own Urhobo Governor for us?

Any Urhobo man is okay by me. But I don't think Sheriff can pull the stunt Edevbie has gathered. He controls Osubi axis all good, but he needs other Urhobos to get a clear Victory.

Omoagege can decide to take in an Ukwuani deputy, who by the way are feeling suppressed and neglected. Strike a deal with ibori to get some rootings from his loyalist in Delta South.

The Ijaws are already displeased and might not do their magics. Delta North will be Sheriff's biggest saver.

I notice some people are playing the tribal card. Which one be no be only Urhobo they Delta State? Them just they set sheriff up. Do all your permutations, he still needs the entire support of other Urhobo clans.

Omoagege has been the last card. Interesting times ahead.

tutudesz:
Brotherly presently in Asaba and Governorship aspirants are complaining bitterly O! 70% Delegates phone have been Seized, after they were booked in different hotels since yesterday.

Tomorrow's results will determine Agege's fate. I'm noticing internal struggles within the PDP. Let's see who comes strong tomorrow.

A test of strength between godfathers.

darfay:
The Thomas guy is actually isoko but I doubt if he can actually win. Isoko people are amateurs when it comes to politics and are not united someone was even celebrating that Diden fellow on one isoko group like that I just quietly left.
The very least we can do is pull block votes for Thomas and ensure at least 80% voter turnout which is projected to be over 200k votes. But those ijaw master riggers might be scheming, sincerely voter turnout should be low from their area considering they have no vested interest.
Warri south west always pulls at least 120k votes. What's going on there? Does the city warri extend into the local government or there's big secret metropolis there no one knows of?

I've heard some Itsekiris claiming Thomas is an Urhobo. Well well well. If he can massively deliver all Isoko LGAs, mobilize all Isokos residing in Warri and drip in support from the Urhobos that occupy almost half of Warri South, then maybe he might have a slim chance. But I don't see him winning. The Ijaws won't massively rally behind an Isoko candidate.

The City doesn't extend to Warri south west, Even warri South can't pull the numbers that is coming from these creeks. Nigeria is a wonderful country.

garfield1:
Me and you know that sheriff will emerge pdp candidate except okowa submits to ibori

CC me tomorrow when the results are out.

Success to all candidates.

garfield1:
Dafinone family I know,efe I dont know but agege is a badasss politician.he knows when to play his cards right from when he stood against saraki,joined apc etc...his winning Delta will depend on factors beyond his control like okowa and ibori falling out.if sheriff emerges,ibori can tell his boys to vote agege giving him a big chance.I know that with okowa not contesting for senate, delta north us open...agege has to pick a deputy from the south.his problem is south not north.with the ijaws about to lose out,he can reach an agreement them to make them deputy gov and handover to ijaws in 2031 in order to get the bloc votes of burutu,bomadi and warrior south west LGAs.he can also form a pact with the itsekiris and isokos to neutralize those ijaw votes...

Though I prefer he goes back to senate and possibly become Senate president

The bloc votes from Bomadi and co was/is an abnormality we hope the electoral act rectifies. An Ndokwa Or Isoko deputy will give Agege an edge.

For some of us, we are watching from the sideline. I notice you are downplaying David Edevbie's influence. He is one top contender you should acknowledge.

garfield1:
I'll have preferred emerhor,keyamo or ogboru.ill prefer agege returns to the senate .when diden is done,ijaw will be governor so the isokos will take over.

Believe me, Omo-Agege play some kind of politics that I doubt anyone can uproot his choice. Dafinone has a big chance.

garfield1:
E go stay oh.after ageege or sheriff,the next gov will be manager or otuaro

Once these guys leave power, they no longer pull much influence. A big shocker awaits us all. Lol. I joke not when I say they are prep'ing the next female governor.

tutudesz:
Ibori daughter just won now now O! May youth are giving up on Politics now, since Political offices are meant for their children and families

Ibori still reign supreme lol. That lady might be our future governor.

garfield1:
Is Joel Thomas not urhobo? I believe once diden finishes his tenure,an isoko will ascend.what can you tell me about dafinone

Urhobo chances of winning Delta South is very slim. Remember people vote across ethnic lines. An Isoko candidate would have given Diden a run for his money.

And you are wrong. Power isn't given. It's taken, when Diden is done, the Ijaws might likely takeover.

Dafinone's family are very influential in Delta Central, the entire Okpe will swing to him and Omo-agege will deliver Ughelli South and North. Ethiope west and Uvwie will be a big challenge to him. But he has a good headstart nevertheless.

Buckeyemedia1:
Okpe v Urhobo? I doubt it.

Okpe is Urhobo. People will vote in Delta Central base on the candidate's past antecedents.

tutudesz:
Uduaghan stepped down for his daughter to contest house of assembly and I think she lost, am yet to see any congratulation message.
Okowa daughter won and Ibori daughter is going for a run off Election today

Meyiwa lost to Martins. She already congratulated him yesterday. Looks like we might have a female governor soon. All past leaders are prep'ing their daughters.

garfield1:
Am also happy diden won,I really love him.I thought uduaghan is contesting.I dont see Ned winning nwaoboshi

It's so sad no credible Isoko candidate vied for a Senate seat. A major ethnic group in that district being systematically sidelined.

Ayodele seems to be an interesting candidate, well well well, the electorates have decided. Also, Amori will have it tough in Delta Central. Goodluck to all of them.

atheistandproud:
Abobi how we wan take strategize lead protests na?

I go push them from ladder if them bring bill sha.

Omo them no mad bring bill. Naija just tire person

There hasn't been power in the city since early April till this very moment. I don't know how an entire city can go blank for over a month and nobody is saying anything about it.

In some part of Effurun, they restored power last week for some hours and that was the it. Ekpan and neighboring suburbs are worst.

The pain and struggle of living with no power...
If you reside in Warri, how is the power situation in your corner?

scholes0:
And have I said I am personally against Wado city? Infact Goodluck with making it work. Itsekiris can face their Warri squarely, while Urhobos can face Wado. No more confusion or mix-ups. Win Win.

As for the second part of your submission, no comment, because you are pretending like you dont know that even within the Niger delta there are still internal migrations of people. In case you don't know Thousands of Ilajes are now permanent citizens of coastal Delta state... but they are not claiming landlordship status. The difference is that Ijaw will migrate somewhere and start claiming to own the place after barely 1 generation. If you pretend like you don't know this then I will know you are not sincere.

BTW.... There are some veery old igboid elements of Ndokwa/Aboh extraction in Warri. If you want to go there you can let me know.

I know there are Ilajes in Ugborodo axis. Infact, I'm aware they have some fishing communities there. But you can't compare a migration between those two because practically they are of the same stock and would always look out for each other.

What you are accusing the Ijaw of is also being done by your beloved brothers. Should we open the Sapele chapter? or should I talk about the case in Oghara? You can't cry injustice when things don't suit you but look the other way when it is done by Someone you know. That is bareface hypocrisy don't you think?

And by the way, there is no such thing as tenants or landlords. If you migrate to a land and stay for more than 300 years then you are part of that land and the land is part of you. Ijaw presence in that market dates far back centuries ago.

Igboid elements in Warri? Not shocking. There have always been mixture of people. No tribe share one ancestry, it's always a blend of various people. What group if I may ask?

scholes0:
Good for you. I am only pointing out the timing. ... the inferiority complex is rather in the reverse. A people who can't bear the pomp of an ordinary coronation. Infact during the coronation Urhobos were the ones making jest of itsekiris that they had to go to Ode Itsekiri to coronate the Olu. You are trying to do reverse psychology... just be proud with your full chest that Warri the name has always been an Itsekiri entity... And that Urhobos have now realized that fact, hence the push for a name change to their areas.

Did I argue that the name belonged to us? That has never been our argument. I was only giving you good reasons why the Wado city project is valid as it helps in correcting many wrong impression about a city.

You are pretending not to know why the Waddo city project intensified. During the coronation. it was common to find statements like this in the media;

"The oil City of Warri gets a new king"
"The City in celebration as ..."

An average Nigerian can barely differentiate the difference between the Kingdom that got a new king and the city which is deep in the terrain of another ethnic group.

Please, when did markets become towns and villages? Who is the king of the ogbe ijoh fish market? So Igbo market in Agbasa now belongs to Ibos? I like your logic.

The Igbos are recent migrants to Warri and are not Indigenous to the place, so how then can you compare Igbo market to Main market? I'm talking about Ijaw here, a group of people that had ties with her neighbors for centuries. Infact that market was a trading spot for ancient Ijaw men and they have occupied that tiny piece of land for close to 200yrs now.

scholes0:
Well there is no Ijaw settlements there... Ogbe Ijoh is not WS... Markets are not permanent settlements btw.
Yes it raised dust because it smacked of some level of insincerity... Ejiro had to bring it up days after the coronation of the new Olu and the massive recognition and national coverage accorded the Itsekiri. Are you saying it was in no way connected?

Main market belongs to Ijaw. No matter how small it is, the land still belongs to Ijaw and we must accept that reality.

How and when I decide to rename my land should be of no concern to anyone. If you are on Social media during that time of the coronation you would see how the entire city were erroneously labeled as part of Iwere when in reality, almost every part of the modern city are in Uvwie, Udu and Okpe.

Isn't that enough reason to rename one's land? What's the pride in even living in denial and falsehood? You want the outside community to believe you own a city that is majorly in other people's territory.

Talk about inferiority complex.

Ijoh:
You are correct.

Thank you my brother

Idiko1:
This is Ijaw's cultural place of Abode. In Igweocha, watersides are the places to find them before and during Nigeria's independence.

The Ijaws are riverine groups. So yes, they majorly occupy such terrains. Each groups in Nigeria have their natural habitat, you can easily tell what part of a place belong to a group.

emmadothings:
Before you rename anywhere in warri if u can and u know it's not possible for the following reasons:-
(1).U cannot be a landlord in a rented apartment ( so foolish because all the house documents and quotation expensis is with the owner.
(2). There are different documents before and after colonization that shows with the exact date and time that the urhobos and ijaws who came to iwere/warri are mostly slaves, fisher men and farmers ( read history not sentiment)
(3). Check! 98 percentage of Urhobo men and women that died are not buried in iwere/warri (why?)...the truth is that they know that they have no heritage here in iwere land.
(4). If an istekiri man purchased 200 acres of land in Asaba and won a contention case against some people who want to claim the land from him, does that make or give him (the istekiri man a kingdom or make him a citizen of that place?) Myopic and greedy people everywhere.
(5) All the clans that the Urhobos are claiming in warri are farmland that was rented and some given to loyal slaves so that their freedom will go with means to survive ( there are documents- I don't want to post any documents because they will still call it fake- just do research)
(6) in case u don't know ijaw are the owners of Nigeria ( dumb expansionist ideology).. no be me say make una dey born like sardines...u dey born pikin 20 children for one room and u dey claim say na una many pass for warri..
(7). Go and name ur Ughelli , Okpe, Uvwie, Udu and Effurun ur imaginary wado city while your top urhobo and ijaw leaders continue to use your myopic brains to make money from iwere land.
( Iwere/warri was designed by the itsekiri ancestors to accommodate all tribes in Nigeria and all over the world to trade and live in peace and harmony ( okro no dey big pass him owner)
(9).The name Iwere/Warri was ordained by God and he will continue to protect and prosper the itsekiri people the Lords of iwere land...
(10). The only recognized king in iwere/warri land is the Olu of Warri and it will remain so till the earth is no more.
(11). For the sake of those that are confused why the name iwere is been used interchangeably with warri ,know this . When the British first came to Warri they couldn't pronounce the name iwere so they currupted it to warri because warri was light and sharp to pronounce in thier tongue..
Iwere/warri refers to the inhabitance or the istekiri people who owns warri.( Ask Google)

We are talking about the city here. Not the warri creeks.

Where and where do you own in the city? Udu? Uvwie? Okpe?

And this your talk of slaves and migrants holds no water. Let's not go that road. Warri South is just a tiny part of the city.

scholes0:
I am not against the concept of Wado city.... If the Urhobos feel like the Name Warri which belogs to the Itsekiri is disenfranchising to them, and they chose to rename their areas something else, it is all within their rights to do so.
At least with that, the issue between Urhobo and Itsekiri can actually start having clear nodes for resolution.

Na the ijaw issue gangan dey controversial.... Which was why I quoted that OP who is very likely Ijaw. Please what are the indigenous Ijaw towns in Warri South?

You may have no problem with the Wado city tag but it raised some dust and I sincerely don't know why your cousins are fusing about it. I want to rename my ancestral land, why should that be a problem to anyone?

The Ijaws in Warri South only occupy Main market/Ogbeijoh market then the waterside.

scholes0:
All those Ijaw villages you are calling Warri are not Warri.. LMAO

The Waddo city advocates have some legit reasons for their agitation. The City of Warri is more or less in other LGAs other than the Warri South itself which we now regard as "OLD WARRI."

The modern city is in;
Uvwie
Okpe
Udu.

These three LGAs back then were of no much influence in the early 70's when the tussle of who owns Warri South was at its peak.

As we speak, the city is growing deeper and deeper into other Urhobo LGAs and might catch up with Ughelli South which is already happening (Places like Agbarho are gradually being integrated into the city).

This is a fact others don't know that the Wado city advocates are pushing. Left for me, I careless. More than 90% of the city are in my terrain, so why should I argue about a name?

LoL

Assetinvestor:
Thank God beautiful, Serene and peaceful Asaba was made the Delta State capital and not violence and conflict prone Warri.

I have not seen a city with so much confusion and contention like Warri. An oil rich city that is supposed to be well developed has been reduced to a shanty town of landgrabbers.

So pathetic and sad!!!

Violence in Warri? Who is fighting who ? Don't be deceived, Warri still remains the most urbanized city in the state.

The Warri crisis happened far back when Warri
South was the bone of contention. Right now, the city has grown deeper into Uvwie, Udu and Okpe, which by the way are %100 Urhobo Territory.

Now, you just called Warri a shantytown, please tell me, what other city in the state can match its urbanization?

darfay:
Sapele is not a popular destination for isoko people. In my community warri/ughelli and Phc are popular migrant destination but I hardly I hear of sapele

@Bolded, you are right, I also notice the Urhobos/Isokos barely migrate to Delta North

Not that the Isokos lack political awakening, they are just being placed in a district where the other two players are ready to gag against them. Unfortunately, there's no way their cousin can help. Presently, Isoko has a better chances of producing a governor than a senator. I know of the Ndokwa tussle and how they are being schemed out of things.


Our numerical/voting strength is superior in Delta south and we're also seeing a higher increase in new voters compared to the others. There are more isoko people in itsekiri/ijaw area aka warri as opposed to the reverse. I personally think an alliance with the ijaws of warri can monopolize the Senatorial seat because ijaws and itsekiris can never work together.
Splitting up of ndokwa east would likely be the only situation. Isoko though having a smaller portion of land still has a portion bigger than uvwie lga and extending close to the border with Rivers/Anambra but some communities are mixed and that might be problematic.

We hope you guys put your acts together. So far, I love the peace in Ndokwa, I only hope they become more open to changes.

WhizdomXX:
I have confirmed what you said urhobo's are actually in Edo state in organized villages like Orhonigbe. And in Ondo the Urhobo's are settled in towns on your way to Lagos.
Meanwhile Ijaws are still located in Warri downtown.
Isokos are located in Patani too.

Yes, Ijaws are in Warri North and South West.

WhizdomXX:
Itsekiris are in Warri north, Koko to be precise.
Warri South west, ogidigben and Warri South in Kpesu and the surrounding oil areas.
Urhobo's are in Edo, while Ijaws are in Ondo too.
Ijaws are more than Isokos in Warri South lga.
In my view, Isokos can fight for their rights to be senators in Delta South. With ijaws aspiring for governorship, Isokos should take advantage and contest for the senator. Itsekiris are actually less concerned, Uduaghan and then representing Warri federal constituency is enough political clout for them.

I'm referring to Warri city proper, where the main population is. I Know Itsekiri are in Warri South West and Warri North and they are majority there. Also, Isoko are not in warri South, we only have Urhobo and Itsekiri in Warri South.

Ondo holds a large population of the Urhobo people. It has been a top migrating destination for generations until the oil boom.

WhizdomXX:
The voting strength is from Warri SW. Ogboru won in 2011. Not 03 and 07. Isokos remains a minority to ijaws just that they stay in the hinterland so they move about like the Urhobo's unlike ijaws that are native riverine residents and love their waterways.

Bro, a real population census should be conducted. We need to know our real numbers. I can't and won't believe Isoko is a minority to any group in Delta South.

darfay:
I know of that ughelli part. It's the first major town outside of isoko area and as such it's a popular destination for isoko migrants. Warri,pH,yenagoa and Lagos follow in no particular order. I always thought itsekiris are next to urhobo in population when it comes to warri as they all claim to be from there. Most urhobo/isoko people hardly migrate to Delta North/Anioma axis while reverse is the case. Such demographic shift is not going to be advantageous to the people of Delta central in the long run
Did you know they're urhobo speaking villages or settlements so to say in Edo state somewhere on the Benin ore shagamu bexpress way. I was surprised too

There's no consensus candidate yet from Delta central, I hope it doesn't fragment urhobo votes. James Manager and the deputy governor guy are seriously contending for the seat and those guys(ijaws) are master riggers. They somehow manage to pull off 90%+ voter turnout every single election year. That burutu has a single federal constituency while ughelli north,south and udu have to share one is an act of injustice despite each being more populous than burutu individual
Isoko needs a political awakening because it seems they aren't very good at politics despite our growing population we've constantly allowed ourselves to be cheated by others even in ndokwa east where the ndokwa people have hijacked the local government for themselves. It's crazy how there's no agitation atm for the Senatorial seat.

The Itsekiris are mostly concentrated in Ugbolokposo & Ugbromo (In Uvwie) and Warri South which they share with Urhobo. The rest part of the city are deep in Urhobo Territory where you find more Isokos. The Ijaws also have a growing population in the city, but from my observation, they can't swallow the Isokos. In places like Sapele, the Itsekiris come second after the Urhobos.

@Bolded, you are right, I also notice the Urhobos/Isokos barely migrate to Delta North but in the state capital, the Urhobo/Isoko should come second after the indigenes. Aside there, you barely see them concentrated anywhere else. You should also note that we have few Urbanized areas in Delta North.

The Urhobos have large populations in Edo/Ondo. Infact, a 1980 census confirmed that 1 in every 8 persons living in Ondo was Urhobo. In Edo state, they come second after the indigenes. Ondo/Edo were regarded as the second home of the Urhobos. In a real population census, there's no way the combined population of Isoko/Urhobo won't be the second largest in the Niger Delta.

Our brothers in the creek sometimes pull 94% turnout. No where in this country do you record such massive votings. Again, he who lays the golden egg, dictate the tune. The Nigerian state must do everything to please the people that feed the entire nation. There is no logical reason why Ughelli shouldn't be a standalone federal constituency.

Not that the Isokos lack political awakening, they are just being placed in a district where the other two players are ready to gag against them. Unfortunately, there's no way their cousin can help. Presently, Isoko has a better chances of producing a governor than a senator. I know of the Ndokwa tussle and how they are being schemed out of things.