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JMAN05:
That reign is yet future. Not before.

I thought you people said Christ has started reigning since 1914...

bknight:
Way to go! When the money finishes in the utility account, I walk into the other bank, withdraw over the counter, go to the utility bank & deposit

That's a long process....

Why can't you cram your card details and use Quickteller?

That's what I do, you can't see me with my ATM card but I can do transfer through Quckteller anywhere anytime since I know the card details offhand.

zicoraads:
Accidents!

Anytime I'm traveling by road, I always have this fear in my mind through most part of the journey. It also happens to me when I'm flying too.

You can have rest of mind by joining DISS

Check my signature for more

Seun:
What does that even mean?

He is Lord of you and Nairaland

Blaksheep:
Can u shed more light? I might be interested.

You can go to this website on my signature for more information and contacts are there too

LordReed:
And how do you know these?

And why do you want to know?

johnydon22:
Scrolling through the frontpage of nairaland i stumbled upon a story;

Man killed his daughter as a sacrifice to God https://www.nairaland.com/4860359/photos-man-killed-baby-sacrifice

I wondered where i have heard this story before. Oh yes, the father of faith Abraham attempted to murder his son on this same note.

Anyone who reads the man's story above would be abhorred at the horror of conceiving such a thought but ironically would praise Abraham on his virtue as a man of faith.

- wasn't this man just as much virtuous and pious as Abraham?

- Wasn't Abraham guilty of similar abhorrence?

On what ground can a christian chastise the man above and excuse Abraham?

Atheist delusion!

But did Abraham eventually kill his son?

"The thought I have for you is the thought of good and not evil to give you an expected end" look for it in your Bible

lawani:
This is a very good write up but i will say. Outright separation is the best

If you had paid close attention, you'd have seen the outright separation that Nigeria needs from the OP regionizing it by ethnic or tribe which is the most perfect separation ever

rottennaija:
Whether I have answers to these questions or not is besides the point. The fact is, the Bible doesn't have answers to these questions.

Where did you get answers to them as a yard stick to know the answers weren't in the Bible?

rottennaija:
It does not.




Let me ask you some,

how long has humans been on the planet?
What happened to dinasours?
What happens in other galaxies?
Are we alone in this vast universe? Are they other intelligent beings?

And you yourself have answers to all these questions bah?

Or let me guess, it's someone's opinion you hold as answer to them, right?

Explorers:
The tail rotor stopped, caused the spinning.
Nothing can be done.

But the tail rotor shows no respond sign at beginning which is a clear warming.
Who knows maybe the pilot thought is a minor thing that can be handled.

LordReed:
I don't know, do you?

Yet you spoke as if you know.
Why then did you ask them to use it?

LordReed:
They should have used the tools available to Noah to build it. LoL!

Which tools did Noah use?

This is the reason we need to root for Decentralized Intelligent Security System (DISS) both for home and car.

Under DISS such driver wouldn't have allowed to drive in the first place.

Check my signature for more...

This is one of the reasons we need to go fully on Decentralized Security System.

Check my signature for more!

Osagyefo98:
With Atiku clinching pdp ticket today to run against buhari there is only a simple mathematics here northern votes and south west will be purely and heavily divided.

The determinants of 2019 presidential election will b south east and south south.

Even apc and pdp knows that now.

You don't know politics...

Middle Belt will be the play ground...

Reason!
1. The northern votes will be split...
2. SW is for APC (majority)
3. SE/SS is for PDP (if Atiku VP comes from SE...emphasis on this)
4. MB then becomes the final ground...this is why PDP ensures they captured places like KWARA, Benue, (Taraba) is also for PDP with influence of Mama Taraba.. Bauchi with the like of Dogara...Plateau with the ongoing crises...Southern Kaduna

Any attempt for PDP to take away VP from SE will lead to their failure...
Reason is not because THEY WANT TO PLEASE IGBO but to balance SW vote because nobody can give PDP the vote Osinbajo will pull for apc...

If PDP failed to give SE the VP, they won't vote for neither Buhari nor Atiku, majority will go for Donald Duke....leaving PDP wide margin for SW vote.

Please house, is it advisable for someone in early 30 to apply to a COLLEGE in US?

If admission was given, hope there won't be any hindrance at embassy? Thanks

TATIME:
We were solidly behind Moses during the time JEHOVAH directed him to lead us towards the red sea, we were solidly behind Jesus when He told us to continue praying for the kingdom to come since 2,000 years ago. We'll forever continue to exercise faith in what we're sure of and we'll never forsake the gathering of the eagles(Luke 17:37) because that's where the foresight dwells. You can show us a better group but if you can't it's a pity that we'll hold on to our faith.

How does this your rant address the lie you peddle against the early Christians?

How does this your rant address the fact that you agreed your GB spoke what God didnt say, yet you still believe they're the very spoke person for God now on earth.

I guess the reason you brought Jesus and Moses into this now is to claim that they made mistake too yet people still follow them.

TATIME:
it's true that JWs organization have made many mistakes in the past like use of words to present our understanding of future events that are predicted in the Bible as prophesies.

It's soooo shameful that this can come from you yet you couldn't see it as a big problem denigrating TRUE Christian life.

Imagine, if the Apostles have all made mistakes, can you trust their writings?

In the past instead of saying "we've meditated thoroughly on what is written in the Bible, and during our meditations with prayers we've discovered that so and so will happen" we used the word "prophesies" which connotes that we're the ones telling the prophesies.

So what is the essence of PRAYER if not to establish the TRUTH

Just imaging! It means your GB says what God did not say and you still believe they're the very spoke person for God on earth.

How can you say what God did not say?

The fact still remains that out of interpretations of 10 prophesies found in the Bible by Jehovah's Witnesses NONE has failed, it's Just the TIMING of these prophesies that's gloomy.

How can INTERPRETATION fail You're a real Olodo...

You've already established that YOUR GB PROPHESIED on behalf of God...

Go back to school...and stop be an online miscreant

True Christians have been making this same mistakes in the past. Act 1:7 but as for those prophesies they're surely going to happen it might not be in the order projected by JWs. No other religious group can see what JWs are seeing regarding our interpretations of Bible prophesies!

Just imagine, you even have the gut to involve the blessed Apostles in your delusion...how does Acts 1:7 is a mistake compare to the FAILED prophesies of your organization?

Lastly, this thread is about Islam but your deluded mind has turn it to JWs palava...
Who did this to you?

sonmvayina:
Is jesus not your God?...

The Bible says The Word of God (which came to this world and became flesh in the person of Jesus) is God.

Besides, don't derail this thread with that...that's not the essence of it but if you feel otherwise, you can create another thread and invite me.

sonmvayina:
You do.. So who was making all those quote you are rambling about..?

So what is the name of the man or human being I serve as God?
How does my post indicate I serve man or human being as God?

sonmvayina:
My God is not a man or human being..

And who is serving man or human being as God?

sonmvayina:
This sound like what Another God will say..

So which one did your God say?

Barristter07:
The issue here is:

Did Jesus made a distinction between body and soul at Luke 12:22 too ? Do you agree with Jesus that a soul eats ?

You repeating Luke 12:22 when it's Luke 12:4-5 says Alot about how well you know your Bible.

Go and read that Luke 12 to sea that Jesus didn't say invisible part of man SOUL do eat...

OneJ:
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"If soul is immortal does it mean God who created it cant destroy it ? Ode ??"

He claimed that the soul is immortal but has conceded that a Higher Power (God) can destroy the soul, that which he claims to be immortal.
(He speaks with both sides of his mouth. Lol.).

"Jehovah is truly God. He is the Living God& the eternal king. (Jer 10:10. ).
"The King eternal ,IMMORTAL, invisible, the ONLY GOD" (1 Tim 1:16,) the ONLY TRUE GOD (John17:3.Mat 16:13-17), ( the Father of Jesus Christ) Jehovah alone is truly IMMORTAL.Receive sense.

I can see how you stylishly run away from my question.

People who will be resurrected will be IMMORTAL, so Bible is lying here, right

But can God still destroy them?

This your post full of facts that exposed your organization lies but I don't want to dive into that now.

Barristter07:
Exactly where we are going
The bold indicates that those souls God destroyed according to Leviticus 23:30 are completely Eliminated, the Implication is that these means these ones do not proceed to the fictional hell Or afterlife since they are now completely Eliminated the GAP it creates means those in hellfire are only those killed by men,

The bolden part tells how shallow your knowledge is in the subject matter.

God taking someone out of EXISTENCE is different from God cause an end to someone life on earth.

I can also see the way you took Lev 23:30 to mean the invisible part of man whereas SOUL has different meanings which I've established from the beginning of this thread and the content determines what it means Lev 23:30 starts with "Any soul that DOTH WORK..."

But as for those men whose souls are destroyed by God they don't go there because they are completely eliminated.

God is the one who determines the end of everyone, He can decide to put man OUT OF EXISTENCE or condemned him to EVERLASTING punishment.

so which means not all wicked people go to hell !!! So not only does this Create injustice but it exposed your fraudulent claim for what it is. Fraud.

Says the person who believes God judged right by chosen some people to live with Him in heaven but decided to make the rest live on earth even though both were righteous and obeyed Him.

To you this is perfect just because GB says so but you have to say it's an injustice for God to put some wicked people out of existence and condemned some wicked to everlasting punishment

The beautiful thing is Matthew 10:28 is not the only time Jesus made distinction between body and soul , Understanding what he meant by soul the other time he made such distinction would help your knowledge.

At Luke chapter 12 he gave a powerful illustration that reveal what Jesus meant by soul .

Verse 19 reads NASB "
And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years to come; take your ease, eat, drink and be merry."'

Soul EATS, DRINK and Merry and merry , oh ghost indeed


Verse 20 : God said the mans soul will be demanded of him [ this same soul that eats, drink and merry ] . I hope you can see your lies are getting exposed for what they are ?


Jesus now add further weight to this when he says


22 And He said to His disciples, “For this reason I say to you, [a]do not worry about your life [ "Soul " footnote] , as to what you will EAT; nor for your body, as to what you will put on . " - NASB

Firstly, you concorted your own fable lie to twist Jesus statement.

Secondly, had it been you take your time to study that scripture you'd have known the truth but since the spirit of your father devil who works in the lives of your GB has been transferred to you, it's hard for you to see.

Luke 12 starts from Jesus condemning the attitude of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy "...Watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy." NWT and He encourages His disciples to always speak for the truth and not afraid of what it might be done to them, this leaves Jesus to say they shouldn't fear man who can only KILL the body but has nothing to do to the SOUL. Luke1-12

Another point was raised by someone in the crow: this time is about EARTHLY POSSESSION...“Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

For Jesus to clarify this, He used a PARABLE...
But just see the way you used your deluded mind to mix everything together just to continue to live in self delusion.

[i]
Jesus made a distinction above between Body and soul . yet the soul is again regarded as EATING . ghost ? yeeparipa

Liar Jesus was talking about abundance of life not SOUL in a sense of invisible entity in man.

Know where Bible draws the line.

According to Jesus that which he called soul is able to eat and drink which indicates a living person.

Liar.... read the content what leads to Jesus statement distinguishing between BODY and SOUL in verses 4&5 is different from the point Jesus is addressing from Vs 13 down...

Now back to Matt 10:28 Men can kill the body But not the life as a living soul because God promise to restore that life ( Matthew 10:39) . in this sense , Men cannot do more than kill after which they can do nothing at all , but only God has the power to either restore the life or destroy it completely by not ressurecting it.

See the mind of a liar, this your quack is meant for your Hall where every gebbrish is swallowed from GB...

Let me go back to your first straw man attack you used from the beginning of this post.

If God promised to restore THAT life...then is it EVERY LIFE THAT GOD WILL RESTORE?

If yes! you mean God will restore THAT LIFE of those Jews who are not JWs killed by Hitler?

If no! it means Jesus was lying when he said men can kill body but not their life...which eventually men actually can since God won't restore them.

Barristter07:
Eyaah
Did Jesus made a distinction between body and soul at Luke 12: 22 5 too ? Do you agree with Jesus that a soul eats ?

So it means Matthew 10:5 is wrong.

OneJ:
Since U have agreed (in your bolded print) that God himself can kill & destroy the soul why do U still stick to the lie that the soul is immortal.

BTW, kill is synonymous (same as ) destroy. Just as Hebrew nephesh (soul) is translated in your KJV Bible as synonymous with the 'dead' ,'body'.
Source; biblehub (Strong's H5315 nephesh )
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AC Milan can't beat Juventus, but Real Madrid defeated Juventus to lift Champions League. Does it mean that Juventus can not be beaten or defeated ?

If U quarrel with this illustration, pls better U consult a shrink.

Knowledge is far from you...

God is the creator of everything.....

If soul is immortal does it mean God who created it can't destroy it? Ode

Is it not what Jesus statement meant to address in Matt & Luke? Yet you people couldn't wrap your dull skull over...

So you mean after resurrection all those who will wear immortality can't be destroyed by God again if He decided to do so? Simply because they're now immortal!

You people don't think before you type...

Barristter07:
that's a very simple thing But not yet until we unravel what Jesus meant by soul in that verse

I'm awaiting you also with evidence of well known scholars who supported you assertion.

I will repeat it again: Jesus statement does not imply that man has an invisible soul. The clause those [ Men ] who " spell it out as weak proof. So lets see what happen when God kill same .

But what Jesus said was that MAN can KILL the Body but can't KILL the soul...

Why would Jesus make such statement if there's something in man, MEN can't destroy?

God is speaking please, If he will destroy the soul of those mention. Does that not spell it out that nothing survive those men?

It's just so unfortunate that I have to be spoon feeding you like a baby...

God has power to KILL AND DESTROY both the BODY and SOUL....

If God destroyed someone WHAT WILL SURVIVE from that person again?

No! It doesn't spell it out THAT NOTHING SURVIVE THOSE men, it strictly means that ONLY GOD HAS POWER TO ELIMINATE ANYONE unlike human who can only kill but has nothing to do after that...

I don't know why simple English is so difficult for you to comprehend...

NOTE: If your reply will make me to repeat myself on this I won't reply you unless if you clarify what you THINK Jesus meant on those verses.

Barristter07:
Good. we are gradually getting there , don't forget we are trying to see if your fraudulent meaning is what the verse emphasized.

You called it fraudulent meaning yet you never tell us what Matt 10:28 or Luke 12:5 mean

God who has been established that can destroy soul's says :


And every soul that doeth any manner of work on that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people. - Leviticus 23:30

Will he destroy the souls of those mentioned here ?

Mr man if you don't have anything to say stop quoting me...i quess you don't understand my post you quoted

Who is speaking here man or God

I've said it nothing more than five times on this thread, God can DESTROY SOUL but man can't...

Jesus Christ Himself said it "fear those who can kill the BODY but unable to kill the SOUL...."

This is your own translation of Luke 12:5 "Moreover, I say to you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more. But I will show you whom to fear: Fear the One who after killing has authority to throw into Ge·henʹna."

What does this phrase mean, "...are not able to do anything more"?

Only the lover of lies won't see the plain meaning of this verse.

Jesus statement here is very clear for everyone expect the lover of liar JWs who have been going around to twist it.

Tissue:
the thing about uber is that it is not in my state.. So doing uber would mean I would have to travel to Lagos or Abuja... I don't think I'm cool with that at the moment

You can bro especially in Abuja

Since you have up to 3.3m, you can get self contain of 150k (though I don't know if you have family) in Abuja and a car around the said previous price.

Then you're good to go!

TissuePaper:
Please nairalanders I need you guys to share your views on how lucrative you think the transportation sector is, especially the gurus in the business.

I'm thinking of buying a fairly used Toyota Hiace bus which costs about 3.5 million naira and I think it's a fair deal considering the profit I think I'll be making every day.

The bus should have 18 seats so that gives me 18,000 naira per trip, I'm thinking of plying interstate from port-Harcourt to Bayelsa which costs 1 thousand naira per person.

Therefore, if I can be able to make 4 trips in a day that gives me about 72000 naira returns everyday, giving me about 2.1 million naira per month.

Pardon me... I just did this little mathematics out of naivety as I do not really know the complexity of the transport sector, that is why i need your views, opinions and advice so that I don't hurt myself in the end.

However, if everything is as it seems then I think I would have to invest massively in the transport sector smiley

Since you're in PH where there is UBER

Buy correct Toyota Camry around 1.5-2m keep the remaining money in your account (or you can send it to me if you don't want) then register your car with uber and drive it by yourself.

I bet you if you hustle well, you will make nothing less than 50k a week excluding your feeding and fueling. Since you're

Thank me later