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OneJ:
Context is key. Nephesh or soul in the bible is strictly about the earthly realm of life.

After I burst you ignorance about how word can have different meanings, you fall back to context.

Now you're talking about context, did you put that into consideration before?

Again, if context is the key then it's you who violated it but you're trying to play smart now.

The reason why even your own TRANSLATION NWT uses LIFE in that verse is very simple, the CONTEXT wasn't about PHYSICAL BODY that's why in KJV it read "...because he hath POURED out his soul"

Mind you one of the reasons JWs rejected the personhood of the Holy Spirit is because they said Bible said Holy Spirit was POURED upon people.

That word nephesh,soul never refers to spirit being

Lastly, you lied here again and I'll continue to expose your ignorance about scripture until you break yourself lose from the bondage of your GB

Everyone reading this should look at the attached picture

I have told you several times that you should stop spamming my mention, once you've already quote my post stop mentioning my name in the same post. last warning!

OneJ:
is asking a question that should not arise if he had read my first post on this thread. Pls go back & read it.
U & Google dey quarrel?
https://www.biblehub.com/hebrew/5315.htm
The Hebrew word "nephesh" meaning life, soul , living being, self ,person etc.
Its Greek equivalent is 'psyche'.
A living soul is an animal or thing that breathes.

U & your crew are SERIAL LIARS.
Si eba puo....

I'll only expose your ignorance about one word with different meanings especially in Hebrew as this relates to our discussion.

1. The word shemayim: it means; heaven, sky, visible heavens, heaven as realm of the stars.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

2. The word • ’eretz: can mean; land (1543 times in KJV), earth (712 times), country (140 times), way (3 times), ground.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

3.The word raqia: can mean; extended (solid) surface, vault of heaven supporting waters above, firmament, dome, vault.

Does it mean these words have the same meaning?

Let me stop here because they're many.
Now. you can see the reason why one Hebrew word can have different meanings for different purposes depending on the content but you people will ignore the content and cherry pick anything that suit you.

Lastly, one thing you failed to realize is that Hebrew word both have the same view for physical and spiritual, this can be seen from example I gave above.

Can you see now that the word "nephesh" have different words with different meanings including physical and spiritual?

OneJ:
God did not leave Christ soul in hell."Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" Ps 16:10, Acts 2:27,31.(KJV).

Where was the body if Jehovah didn't leave it in hell?

Or simple question hard for you to answer?

Proof that the soul is mortal. At the risk of exposure of your falsehood, U refused to admit that Jesus was a dead soul ,who was not left in hell.

Imagine, I refuse to admit. why should I admit what the scripture didn't say?

Jesus says we should fear only God who can destroy bith the BODY and SOUL if both are one then Jesus is lying

"...Christ died for sins once for all....was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit" 1 pet 3:18. 1 Cor 15:43-47.
Christ was resurrected as a spirit being (like angels), not with that physical body he had before died.
He had already given his perfect life, his soul as a ransom sacrifice for our sins. Mark 10:45.[quote]Yet Jehovah said he won't leave the SOUL (Body-according to you) in the hell (grave according to you)

So what did Jehovah do with Jesus body, if He didn't leave it in hell?

[quote]what has been sacrificed, or U have sacrificed, is it taken back? Yes or no.
The holy scriptures is precise about it.

But you quote a passage where Jehovah said He won't leave the SOUL(BODY) in hell, if Jehovah didn't take the body back WHY DIDN'T HE leave the SOUL in hell?

"Jesus himself stood among them& said to them: peace be with you". They were startled & frightened thinking they saw a spirit".... Look at my hands& my feet. It is I myself." Luke 24:36-39.

Christ apostles knew Jesus very well , but after his resurrection, they couldn't recognize him. Why ?

Because in order to be visible to them, Christ took on a human body without any wound,not the same body he had before death (recall that the angels who appeared to Lot, Mary Magdalene etc, took on a human bodies. Gen 19:1-3.

@color...still made my question unanswered.
What did Jehovah do with Jesus body since He didn't leave it in hell?

The passage you quoted in Luke 24:36-39 exposes your lie...Jesus said in the passage "Look at my hands & my feet. It is I myself."

Why is Jesus pointing their attention to in His hands & feet?
And lastly, Jesus said "IT IS I MYSELF"
why is Jesus lying when He's not the very person(body-according to you)

Barristter07:
Shows how confused they are , I never assumed anything.

Based on this statement made by compelling truth , " every person you have ever met IS A SOUL , living in a body . emphasis on " living in " shows clear distinction that the body is not the person.

The person is that Soul , living in that body ... Do you agree with this?

I have said it here times without number that the way you JWs show your dishonesty to someone's article is the same way you do to Bible.

The articles have already established that SOUL is PART OF a PERSON! So if the article later went further to talk about soul LIVING IN A BODY, how do you suppose to interpret it?

But you neglected the first point of the article and hold on to next phrase in the same breath, is that not dishonesty?

What if article like this was found in Watchtower or Awake and people quote the part that suit them, will you have agreed with them?

Means he never died .

He was living in a body , Agree ?

What is the name of that BODY?

It did . Isaiah 53:11,12

Because of his anguish, he will see and be satisfied. By means of his knowledge the righteous one, my servant, Will bring a righteous standing to many people, And their errors he will bear. For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:11-12 NWT

Where does the word SOUL appear in your own translation?

My question still remains unanswered!

OneJ:
Jesus was born a living soul, by Mary his mother. He lived for about 33 yrs & became a dead soul (he died for the ransom of mankind from sin & death) but God resurrected him.("thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" ,Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27,31 KJV).

You agree that Jesus BODY was not left in hell...

Why do you also agreed that ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection?

Any living person is a living soul & a dead person is a dead soul. James 2:26. ( Pls Google"soul in the Bible" wikipedia) . The Wikipedia gives U the historical antecedents of immortal soul belief & what the Bible says about the soul. ).
Your body & soul na the same,according to the Bible ,(Eccl 3:18-20,Gen 3:19, "For dust you are to dust will return" or U wanna claim that God lied to Adam ?
Eccl 12:7 did not say the soul goes somewhere, but the breath of life (the spirit,life force) returns to God who gave it at creation of Adam. Gen 2:7, James 2:26.

The soul that sinneth shall die.
In like manner, the soul that is justified righteous (by Christ Jesus) shall live.
No be rocket science.
Shalom.

Why was ANOTHER BODY was given to Jesus after resurrection then? According to your belief!

Barristter07:
https://www.compellingtruth.org/amp/human-soul.html says about Soul

"The human soul is eternal and imperishable, and every human soul will be somewhere for eternity. This is a sobering thought— every person you have ever met is a soul, living in a body, and that soul will last forever. "


Gotquestion, another popular website says regarding the soul



" The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/amp/human-soul.html

From the definitions above, The human soul is the Person . as compelling truth analyses You are only " living in a body "

Using this context for this discussion:

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

If the above postulations are Correct, Can you prove that the person called Jesus Died for your sins ? Or ordinary body ?

This is the actual part I want to address because here is your mistake, you added your own assumption where the writer didn't.

We have established that the Person is the soul , the Body is an ordinary home of that Person [ Soul ] , therefore the body Is not the person just the home where the Soul [Person ] lives

From the above two link you provided I came with this part that either you deliberately ignored or couldn't understand.

compellingthetruth.org "The human soul is that part of a person that is eternal —the part that lives on after the body dies and decays."

gotquestions.org "Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical."

What was your own assumption? You assumed that THE PERSON is mainly the SOUL whereas both articles established that the SOUL is PART of that person.

NOTE: Emphasis must be placed here, the only condition SOUL can be also referred to as PERSON is after DEATH where the SOUL is now the actual person in the SPIRIT REALM.

You got it wrong when you think people only refer to soul as person including when the person is still alive.

gotquewtions.org said this "The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being.

To your question, Jesus person died for our sin by giving His BODY!

Now my question, if SOUL is just the person, why did Bible never use the word SOUL for Jesus sacrifice?

eventtinz:
no one can prove you wrong ,simply because the body of proof lie with the believer.if you claim tupac is still alive...you don't tell people to prove you wrong...you prove to us with magnificent evidence for making such magnificent claims...agree?

That's a fact lie, what if you provide the name of the hospital where he died, the name of the doctor who confirmed him dead and the death certificate signed by the doctor, the video of his funeral including where the coffin was opened and the unbroken video still shows how the coffin was led down in the grave then covered?

Can that serve as evidence of your proof or not?

LordReed:
You believe multiple gods exist, sovereign or not

Yes I believe! So what is your point?

Mind you, your first post I replied to was asking a Christian whether he believes in the EXISTENCE of Allah e.t.c

Now, let me see whether you won't go back to my early point.

LordReed:
LoL. Feel free to produce evidence for any god.

But you're not free to provide your own evidence for absence of god.

You don't know how the universe was created but you refuse to admit it, you just "believe" that God created it. What then created God since it can not create itself has stuck in your throat.

Universe was created and God isn't part of the universe so God can't be created?

Unlike you, I freely admit to not knowing anything before the big bang. It is well established that the universe is expanding and thus was smaller than it is now, alot smaller. What the conditions were before the expansion is unknown.

You think you're smart, you used big bang to hide the word BELIEVE.

You admitted but it means you took everything you were told could have happened before big bang by FAITH.

WHO established IT, yourself Or what you were told and YOU BELIEVED?

Yet you can accused me of 'JUST BELIEVE'

Are you different from me then?

You are free to imagine a god created it but also admit you have no evidence nor do you know what created a god.

Likewise, you are free to imagine a god didn't create it.
You that have the evidence, why can't you provide it?
Yet all what you accept about universe is a product of what SOMEONE SAID not YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

LordReed:
LoL! Which one is this sophistry you are on? You believe Sango exists ergo you believe in multiple gods, what is hard in it for you to understand? Whether you only put trust in one is irrelevant, you literally believe there are multiple gods. You can use sophistry all you want, this is what you believe.

Look at the bold...isn't that my stance from beginning

But I know the angle you're driving towards that LITERALLY believe there are multiple gods means I'M AN IDOLATRY.

You started with existence then to believe IN, can't you see how confuse you are

When even a primary school students know that there's a difference between existence and sovereignty

stay off my mention on this

LordReed:
I know no such thing. You make a claim for your god and I ask you why that claim cannot be held for the universe as there is NO EVIDENCE for any sort of god.

No evidence for any sort of god by who, you or me?

What I said is universe can't create itself, if you know it can, proof me wrong.

LordReed:
Wait, you believe that Sango exists but don't believe he can do stuff is that what you are saying?

Is this how intelligent you are?

I believe Sango exists but Sango isn't a SOVEREIGN GOD.

How is simple English difficult for you like this

Does this put me and you in the same category?

You neither believe in the existence of Sango/any god nor their sovereignty...

LordReed:
When you ask someone "Do you believe in God?" are you not asking if they accept his existence?

Hmmmmm and this supposed to be an intelligent question to you?

No I'm not asking ONLY if they accept His existence BUT putting their absolute trust in His sovereignty.

Though, the question can be just about the existence (For Atheist) but this is not so for Theist. That's why you can't see even a Muslim saying Christian don't have God but rather worshipping the wrong/fake god.

LordReed:
LoL, you have resurfaced? You didn't answer my response to you but want to answer this one. I guess you actually believe in multiple gods then. LMFAO!

I will check the post and I didn't see your mention.

If you say God is uncaused then a similar argument can be made for the universe, the universe is uncaused. It is better cos we do not see the influences of any gods in this universe.

You know yourself that the universe can't be uncaused i.e create itself.

LordReed:
What caused God?

God is the uncaused Creator.

Barristter07:
you finally admit Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians then, so what's your problem if those Christians who lived before our time are also called Christians ? " Early " just signified a timeline

Which witness una dey give about Jesus o ,Ogbeni ?

From where did you read that in my post?

That's how your fellow dead skull brother accused me of lying that I said Herald of Jesus was ADOPT as a name by JWs.

The witnesses we give about Jesus is the same witnesses the Apostles, Early Christians & Martyrs of Christ gave which is: Luke 24:46-48 "In this way it is written that the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day, and on the basis of his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations-starting out from Jerusalem, YOU are to be witnesses of these things."
Acts 10:43 "To him all the prophets bear witness, that everyone putting faith in him gets forgiveness of sins through his name."

OneJ:
Lie lie Lienus !
posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference"?

It's evident that wisdom and knowledge are so far from you like heaven to earth.

NOTICE the underlined, I asked if there's no difference?

The reason behind that question was when the post I responded to said "Witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah"

Then I asked, why did Herald of Christ changed to Jehovah witness?

Now compare this to when you boldly said, I lied, JWs never ADOPTED Herald of Jesus as a NAME"

A well taught English student will understand my point isn't about NAME but no reason of changing from one to another if that statement(witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah) was actually true.


Like I always say, comprehension is a major problem for you guys.

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Anyone who lack simple comprehension shouldn't come online for debate.

I'm still waiting for you to show me, where I said JWS ADOPTED THE NAME HERALD OF CHRIST for you to call me a liar.

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.

Imagine, scriptural proofs indeed.

I don't need to repost anything, you're the first person to respond to the OP, so go back to your first post if replied to.

explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

Answer your first post first before you ask me any question and if you failed to quote the place where I said "JWs ADOPT the name HERALD OF CHRIST" forget my reply to any of your post here.

Shalom in advance in case you fail to provide it.

LordReed:
Well, you didn't prove their non-existence but you accepted their existence, what then is your issue?

Does ACCEPTING their EXISTENCE mean I BELIEVE IN THEM?

alBHAGDADI:
You don't understand the Deutoronomy 34:14 ''Since that time no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,''

According to you, the verse is saying that Moses saw God. But you didn't put into consideration that such notion contradicts the below verses. You just saw FACE TO FACE, then rushed to believe Moses saw God.

GOD is described as INVISCIBLE

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


JESUS said No man has seen God at any time

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.


Now, if those verses are saying no one has seen God before, then you must have mistaken that Deutoronomy 34:14 to mean Moses saw God. To understand the verse, look for somewhere else where the Bible used the phrase FACE TO FACE. That can be found in Exodus Chapter 33 and is also about Moses and God.

Exodus 33:11
And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

Now see what God said to Moses in chapter 20


Exodus 33:20-23
20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Now, you can see that Moses didn't see God, he only saw his back parts. This is almost the same as the Israelites seeing God when He appeared as a pillar of cloud and fire. But to see God face to face, you can't. It is Jesus, who has made God known because He is the image of the Living God, that you have seen.

So, can you still claim to witness for a being whom you've not seen?

If you're looking for the grand master in cherry picking just give it to JWs...it tells you how the so self acclaimed on true worshippers can lies so much.

As for Isaiah 43:10-13, I thought Emusan just showed you that the passage doesn't go in line with how you are applying it?

No matter how you try to explain that Deuteronomy to him, it won't have any effect because the GB has already program it in his empty skull.

They can extrat a phrase, sentence, or just one verse in the scripture to justify their false doctrines without minding the intent of the writer.

Whereas, this same people will tell you that, don't read anything about JWs from apostates website because they always misrepresenting their view.

LordReed:
Ah so you believe in multiple gods. Nice to know.

See another one coming from the suppose most intelligent person

Your post says "PROVE of EXISTENCE" but here you change it to "BELIEVE IN" are they the same

Christians acknowledge the existence of Satan, does it mean they BELIEVE IN Satan?

GOFRONT:


Well, I hope she did not have a mother in law that slaps??........ because lately, that is what marriage future forecasters are talking about now on social medias....

HML anyway

And the irony part of it is mother-in-law is to be taking as your own mother!

So can't mother slap her own daughter in peace again

LordReed:
Can you prove that Allah doesn't exist? Can you prove the Zeus doesn't exist? Can you prove that Sango doesn't exist? Can you prove Shiva doesn't exist?

I always laugh whenever I see Atheists asking question like this...yet they always claim to be the most smart and intelligent person.

Have you seen any Christian saying those gods never exist?

Even a Muslim won't tell you that YAHWEH doesn't exist.

When you think you've seen it all but they keep showing case their daftness.

OneJ:
who cherry picks what to twist & form baseless assumptions, ("Herald of Christ " was never a name adopted by JW , U dey lie.)

What did I cherry pick?

Can you show me where I said HERALD OF CHRIST is their former NAME? You must quote where I said this either on this thread or another place...if not, don't dare spam my mention again.

Joker, you just rush to Google to do research...and still come back to show your delusions.

This is the reason why I will continue to say that you people lack simple comprehension and I didn't blame you since you're just a robot in the hands of your GB.

why U dey run from my questions? Come & explain
Acts 3:13,26 & John 7:16.

Smile, see the dull head accusing me I ran away from his question and compelling me to explain.

Whereas, you're the first person who ran from your first post...which I replied with many questions.

How many times have I asked you to go back and reply that post here?

Newboss:
What will he use as the Uber ride? His dick?

This shows that you don't know anything about Uber...

Newboss:
UBER with his dick?

What do you mean by this?
Like he doesn't have money to register for Uber or what?

Barristter07:
Your op is total assumption. Especially question 2 which tend to assume that if Christians are Different from Jehovah's witnesses, there should not have been anything like Early Christians BUT early Jehovah's witnesses , trying to substitute one for the other . now it backfires , Sorry

This part shows that you're the very person who is assuming here...
Sorry to burst your ass, the question 2 didn't derive from this as you said "if Christians are Different from Jehovah's witnesses, there should not have been anything like Early Christians BUT early Jehovah's witnesses"

Rather the question 2 stems from the claim by your organization that "The name Jehovah's witnesses have been known for over 2,700 years ago"

Which then make me to ask, if the name has been in existence for over 2,700 years ago, WHY IS YOUR PUBLICATIONS ALWAYS refer to the early people as EARLY CHRISTIANS and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESSESS?

Your two brothers who first attempt this question understood it but difficult for them to admit it.

One even went further to say it's Jesus who instructed them to separate from the name CHRISTIAN while the other said the old saints don't need to use the name because they have FAITH and OBEDIENCE to Jehovah righteou's standard.

You can see you're the very person who is confused here.

Actually I've made up mind not to reply you but I just have to clarify this.

To your question:
All those mentioned also claim to be Christians , but For a Fact Jehovah's Witnesses are the true Christians today!

That's exactly what draw people like Me to this humble people who follow the footstep of early Christians.

Fact is it has been established that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians contrary to your Op

Funny enough if dem ask which witness una dey give about Jesus now na Jesus is God go be una answer, typical trinitarian reasoning .



We witness for Jehovah just as Early Christians witness about him . there is no way you discuss the ransom of Christ without acknowledging the source of such great Love Jehovah.

1 Corinthian 15:15 , Apostle Paul refer to themselves as Witnesses of Jehovah.

Didn't they ?



I repeat! There is no way to witness about Jesus without Witnessing Jehovah God who send him.

Your issue is when you talk about witnessing for Jesus , Its Trinity coming into your head . And that's not the witness of Jesus Given in the Scriptures

Witnessing about Jesus has to do with the salvation assignment given him by his God , which he faithfully did . it also includes bearing witness to his ressurection from the dead ,, [ The Jews spread a rumour that Jesus wasn't ressurected , This the disciples proved false and bear witness to the fact that Jesus Christ was Ressurected ]




Witnesses today Also bear Jesus name before people in their preaching work.

But Since true worshippers will worship the Father - the name Jehovah's Witnesses set them apart from the million other false worshippers worshipping the Trinity. ( John 4:23)

BigbamoAYO:
My fellow nairalander pls advice,what can i do with 42k salary, am single buh i have a lot of bills to pay,

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Thank me later

luckgood:
FORK U!

Yes yes...fuc.k you too

Barristter07:
With what ? Must you always assume , Just as you started the thread with assumption

Read the statement again
"Get your facts right next time before bringing up a useless thread as this based on Silly assumption Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians, if you don't have problem with other people distinguishing themselves with names like Redeemed , Methodist, Anglican, Living Faith , Catholic. You have no right to assume that because of their name , they are not Christian's

I know you people lack simple comprehension.
No assumption from my post nor from the OP...

You said "JWs ARE CHRISTIANS if I don't have problem with OTHER PEOPLE", which means the way these OTHER PEOPLE ARE CHRISTIANS but not answering the name Christian is the same thing with JWs.

That's why I asked, with your statement do you agree that JWs are NOT ONLY CHRISTIAN?

Who are those you are ASSUMING are not Christians because of their name ? Jehovah's Witnesses

Had it been you take time to read OP you wouldn't have typed this nonsense. The op quoted a claim made by your organization and what the op demanded for is an EVIDENCE for their claim.

Which you people never answered but just perambulating.

@ Bold . There is nothing silly about the statement, Just admit you don't understand it and ask for clarification

You should admit you don't understand yourself first.

There is no way you witness for Jehovah without witnessing for Jesus and vice versa . so that, we are Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean we do not witness Jesus.

Where was Jehovah instructed you to witness for Him to the extent of naming yourself JEHOVAH WITNESS?

This is just your pure assumption not an instruction...but the evidence from the scripture is:
1. Jehovah Himself witnesses for Jesus
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses for Jesus
3. The prophets are witnesses of Jesus
4. The early saints are all witnesses of Jesus.
5. Why are you witnessing for Jehovah?

Early Christians witness for Jehovah just as they witness for Jesus .

Peter testified this when he said :

" whereas you killed the Chief agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact WE ARE WITNESSES " Act 3:15

Clearly they witness Jesus Christ and Jehovah God who raised him up from the dead

That's still the same excuse, since witnessing for Jehovah also means witnessing for Jesus, then WHY DID YOUR ORGANIZATION CHANGE FROM HERALD FOR Jesus to Jehovah witness?[b]

If not there is a point to drive at.

Look at this quote from your organization:
"THE Greek word for “witness” is martyr, from which comes the English word “martyr,” meaning “one who bears witness by his death.” [b]Many first-century Christians gave a witness about Jehovah by dying for their faith" Modern-day martyrs bears witnesses in Sweden

Where can this statement be found in the Bible?
Rev 17:6 is where statement like this appears and it is for Jesus but see how your organization removed Jesus from the equation and put Jehovah.

So coming online pretending as if what you do for Jehovah is what you do for Jesus whereas deep down inside of you people, Jesus has no place.

Everything about Jesus has been replaced by Jehovah.

Apostle Paul confirmed this during a discourse when he said

" But if Christ has not been raised up ...Moreover , we are also found to be false WITNESSES of God, [Jehovah] because we have GIVEN WITNESS AGAINST GOD by saying that he raised up Christ , whom he did not raise up IF the dead are really not to be raised up" 1 Cor 15:14,15

are they Not witnesses for Jehovah God ?

Take care , you can close the thread

Yet you couldn't answer my question.

Why did your organization change from HERALD FOR JESUS to JWs, if witnessing for Jesus also means witnessing for Jehovah?

I can see your gross misunderstanding of what Apostle Paul said, here is how to understand it "And we apostles would all be lying about God - for WE HAVE SAID GOD RAISED CHRIST FROM THE GRAVE..."

The point here is, saying resurrection isn't real means God is lying.

This is different from going place to place CLAIMING they are witnesses of Jehovah.

What Jesus told Ananias about Paul was "...to bear MY NAME before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel"

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Explorers:
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