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Barristter07:
Emphasis on the underlined, to test your fraudulent claim.

@ Bold, since am ignorant, explain to me : What about those killed by God himself for disobedience like Onan, Nadab , people of Noah's day , Would that still apply ?

Those killed by God, are their souls killed ? [/i] . that's the question, learn to comprehend Sir

Barristter07:
The above doesn't support the fraud meaning you are giving it.

It says do not fear those [ Men right ? ] going by your fraud meaning it would mean only those killed by men have a soul that doesn't die. what about those who are directly killed by God such as onan, Nadab , Abihu , and the people of Noah's day ? DO YOU ACCEPT IT WOULD MEAN THE SOUL of this ones are Killed ?

cc: Mutteylaff , Primesky , alBHAGDADI , Jozzy4 , Peacefullove

frandies:
I got admitted to study msc In the state without writing TOEFL or IELT because the school said it if not needed. Gurus in the house, hope this will not affect my transcript during my interview at the embassy?

TATIME:
You're welcome my friend, i have done the needed but it's like you just like to argue with Jehovah's Witnesses. Well for your information there is a difference between an ARGUEMENT and a DEBATE, if you're arguing you'll not listen with keen interest to get the motive in the minds of the other person instead you'll just keep imposing your views. But during a debate you listen ATTENTIVELY to the person so that you can win him/her over with virtuous points. Christians are not for arguments but rather we're for healthful debates. God bless you my friend!

TATIME:
Obviously you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses before so it's a pity that you're involved in this case but i'll advice you perhaps you'll have a rethink. Satan is speedily recruiting soldiers against the second coming of Christ,

atheism is what he is using to gather them,so from all religions people are secretly flocking into atheism unknowingly to many,that's why it has been difficult for these atheists to point to another religious group. They'll say Jesus is the Lord but did Jesus have a visible flock? That is when they'll become mute. Why? Because the real intention of the spirit behind their agitation is to stop everyone from following Christ.

How can you say Jesus is real to you but He has no visible group?

As for your question, the GB said "they're not inspired"

you can ask your atheist friends that question, i'm sure they'll not be able to answer you. Did you see them argue with that? If truly you want to enter God's Kingdom, i'll advice you to thread cautiously and please do not just follow the crowd. Exodus 23:2

TATIME:
Yes Sir/Ma i want to take seriously your timely advice, please mention a name of the Church you can recommend for me to start associating as a Christian, at least i should be worshipping the Lord with fellow Christians na. After all you and your friends are saying the GB is not it abi so suggest another group haha.

TATIME:
Just one single question and both of you have been running elta skelta without finding an answer. OK let me enlighten you both again, JWs GB is not inspired so they can err right? So they've given everyone a reason to know that they are scripture researchers not inspired writers or prophets. It's whatever they read, studied,meditated and prayed upon that they published. Therefore they have already prepared the minds of whoever is following their discoveries for adjustments as in CORRECTING whatever error they made. You studied,got baptized and became a dedicated member of the organization after knowing all these facts so if you're leaving now without knowing a BETTER organization to associate with please for what reason. John 6:66-71

Martinez19:
According to me, morality is govern by reason and empathy/compassion. Morality varies because of the influence of religious and cultural upbringings. Since religion and culture upbringings are different from place to place and they influence reason, morality will vary from place to place. Religious and cultural norms have to be taught because they are not innate but compassion cannot be taught because it's innate.

Take away religious and cultural upbringings, people will agree on what's moral on many more issues. The recent legalisation of homosexuality and homosexual marriage; abolishment of slavery despite what the holy books say etc. are due to "upgrade" in reasoning. Normally parents would take care of their children but JW parents would cut ties with their children if they(children) reject JW doctrines to the extent that they wouldn't want to see their grandchildren (not even on their birthdays) and these parents don't see anything wrong in that. Why is this? Because their reasoning are influenced by jehovah witness' doctrine. Take that jw brainwashing away and see them act like compassionate parents.

Explorers:
True or False

MightySparrow:

alBHAGDADI:
Jehovah's Witnesses should come and see the effect of Governing Body brainwashing o.


jozzy4 barristter07 OneJ peacefullove Emusan Tatime

Peacefullove:
#shakes head

People exist in spirit realm before they are born as human ?

Peacefullove:
That's not an evidence.
Ghost also meant spirit. Many theologian admit soul and spirit are used interchangeably in the xtian bible.

As an example: Jesus Ghost ( Spirit ) return to his Father the same day he died, Does that mean Jesus himself was in heaven that day?

Your response to that will determine what is meant in the screenshot.

Better still, say the Body is the image of the actual person seen by the physical world.

You once admit its an image in one of your post. Go figure.

Yeshua doesnt agree with your postulation as he talked about giving his Soul as sacrifice. If the body is the actual person, what then is this soul that was killed by the physical world as sacrifice ? You may come here and say Soul means another thing here again, but trust me, you will only complicate matters

Jozzy4:
you are the one who cited Angelic spirits as proof's and it expose you wella, Angelic personalities are recognized as PERSONS even without the human body. Swallow that lie

And even with human body, there is a full knowledge that their Real self is not that body people are seeing .

Why are you scared to admit your so called spiritual soul is the real person even before death if angels can be recognized as persons without the body ?

Jozzy4:
Confused person.

The life or soul of any flesh is in the blood . hahahahaha


So lions , Leopard, Gorilla, Chicken , Sheep , Birds and other animals with blood have an invisible Soul ?

This guy is totally confused cc OneJ , Barrister07

Peacefullove:
There is a very sensible question you evade regarding this.

Where are the Wicked before the Ressurection you talked about ??

Respond to this area . vital

Peacefullove:
Where does it mean an invisible soul ?

Stop been mischievous, have studied how you played games in this area.

The body makes you human, but is the body the actual person that survive death ? If no, why Not admit you guys only shed skin like Snakes ?

Peacefullove:
Where is that written ? You can't just make claims without proving them .

All the while many here have quoted places where it was emphasized that soul died, your usual antics is to play games saying soul has different meaning.

This invisible soul, where is it written !!! ? I demand for proof

Peacefullove:
Your Bible said the soul that sinneth, shall ?

" the physical image is gone "

Have you seen a snake shed its dead skin before ? That skin is not the snake itself . the death of that skin does not in any way affect the snake , its gone but the snake lives

Where did you get this idea of invisible Soul from ?

Peacefullove:
Did I just read that part of a person that is ETERNAL ?

^^ it exist before birth ?

Analyse please .

LordReed:
And given the time scales we are talking about, who says it is impossible for such a sequence to occur? It's almost like saying from a pack of 52 cards, it is impossible to randomly draw 6 cards and get a hand consisting of cards numbered 1-6. That happens all the time in card games.

Besides the changes occurred like a tortoise crawl the entire 3.8billion years so its not like humans leapt fully formed from a single cell organism.

Jozzy4:
Come and rant as usual . You are choked already

Laughter oooo .

SEEN as ONE of them is irrelevant oooo

Either he is seen as one of them or not. it doesn't change the fact that the astronaut is the Person . HE ONLY put on a Space suit.

So Jesus just PUT on a body ?

Olodo. They are well knowledgeable to know the space suit is an ordinary attire . The real person is beneath.

Who died. The space suit or the person beneath it?

U are just throwing stones in your own net. This is only logical if what is beneath dies .



Does that person beneath the suit dies when the suit is removed ? Yes!

Logically, Jesus should die. Not survive what he pit on . or else ordinary space suit dies

Jozzy4:
See the dubious person that quoted commentaries saying it refers to the shedding of his blood . ( Soul/Life is in blood )

Grabbing straws, Something immaterial like Blood ?

No, they didn't support you that soul in that verse is immaterial, they said it refers to the shedding of his blood .

What's immaterial about the blood ?

Soul is synonymous to life olodo

life meaning:

Existence of an animal or human being

E.g 70 lives were lost in the flood.

Too shallow person

Jozzy4:
Soul is a person or creature
Living Soul = Body + Breath of life .
That which combines with the breath of life to become a Soul Gen 2:7

Gehenna is valley of hinnom , Not some imaginary place.

the maginary place called Hell, does Body go there ? That's the question!!!

Lolzzzzzzzz, u must be kidding

Before the wicked are Ressurected, where are they ? That will expose that silly logic

YoungIncredible:
Hello guys. Please can anyone help me with any cheapest hotel close to Abuja embassy pleaseeeeee.

I'm very low on budget and I can't afford Sheraton.


I will be visiting Abuja for the first time, which of the parks will I stop at?, and how to get to the "cheap hotel"

Edakun.

Jozzy4:
You are so ignorant . Study how God made Adam and know what Soul means , Adam himself is a Clay , he became a living soul when the breath of life activates him . he wasn't a living Soul until breath of life activates his body.

So open your senses .



There is distinction , study Adam .

Shebi Gehenna is Hell ?

Answer me : Do you agree BODY go to hell ? Matt 10:28 KJB

Gehenna [N] [B] [S]
(originally Ge bene Hinnom; i.e., "the valley of the sons of Hinnom", a deep, narrow glen to the south of Jerusalem, where the idolatrous Jews offered their children in sacrifice to Molech ( 2 Chronicles 28:3 ; 33:6 ; Jeremiah 7:31 ;
19:2-6 ). This valley afterwards became the common receptacle for all the refuse of the city. Here the dead bodies of animals and of criminals, and all kinds of filth, were cast and consumed by fire kept always burning. It thus in process of time became the image of the place of everlasting destruction.

In this sense it is used by our Lord in Matthew 5:22 Matthew 5:29 Matthew 5:30 ; 10:28 ; 18:9 ; Matthew 23:15 Matthew 23:33 ; Mark 9:43 Mark 9:45
Mark 9:47 ; Luke 12:5 . In these passages, and also in James 3:6 , the word is uniformly rendered "hell," the Revised Version placing "Gehenna" in the margin. (See HELL; HINNOM .)

cc : alBHAGDADI,,

You rush to luke , No one overlooks anything . the question is : What happen to those thrown into Gehenna ? They burn forever, in Jesus day is it a place of conscious torment ?

Besides, Gehenna is Hell last I checked, why you favouring Gehenna now.

Do bodies Go to hell ? matt 10;28

Jozzy4:
Its you who your understanding is Low, Soul in the Bible is material , So I have no problem with the commentaries.


But only a dubious person would claim Soul of Jesus is his life ( Blood ) , and won't apply to man .... Do you now accept Soul of man is associated with his Blood ? Not immaterial entity in Nollywood movies

Jozzy4:

A scientist going into space Would wear a Space suit to live and Sustain in that DIFFERENT WORLD .

But the real person is not the space suit.

So Body serves the purpose of a space suit for the invisible Soul in this physical world ?

When they come back to Earth , the actual person removes it.

Emusan also said after leaving the physical world, the Soul becomes the Actual person.

I can't laugh o. It aff been exposed

Cc : Barristter07 , alBHAGDADI

Did Jesus died or his Space suit ?


Lolzzz

Jozzy4:
Today, you will hear am



Silly, NWT uses Life because of dummies that will think soul means immaterial entity not knowing its Just life. Since Soul is life as indicated in NWT footnote pointed out previously by barrister07 . NWT stand is understandable. Meaning the Life of Jesus was lost . he became a dead soul when he died . Numbers 6:6

But you who claim Soul is Immaterial, then tell us Why The Soul dies in Isaiah 53:11,12 ? Many translation even use soul directly .


That's the question , stop running



Nephesh is Soul. NWT wrote it, KJV used it , others used it too . u are grabbing straws.

How can Jesus pour an immaterial soul to death ?

OneJ:
For your mind ..... Lol.
U ain't got nothing to expose ...
U will end up exposing your lies

Jozzy4:
Your Image is not You!!!


Image definition:

a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art.
Barrister , don't waste energy with this man. He have captured himself

The body is Just an ordinary Image/represetation of the invisible soul ( Which is the actual person).

The Op question is: Is it the actual person ( Invisible Soul ) that died or ordinary representation ?