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Christianity EtcRe: Your Final Decision On Whether To Die As A Christian Or As A Muslim by Emusan(m): 1:09pm On Sep 04, 2018
Abdulgaffar22:
So if anyone tells you we muslims do not believe in Jesus, you have been deceived.
To believe IN means you put your Faith and salvation on Jesus is that so or English is a bit difficult?

Next time say, Muslims believe Jesus to be.....according to Qur'an.

What else do you want to us to believe about Jesus.
It's evident that what else you believe about Jesus is what Quran says NOT the truth you found about Him through your personal research.
If not you won't be going up and down using only Qur'an as a Yarr stick.

It is only on the last day you will fully realize that the person you follow is not Jesus but Paul.
The present day Islamic scholars have brainwashed you people to take apostle Paul as a great enemy of Islam whereas the early Islamic scholars took Apostle Paul as one of the true disciples of Jesus Christ.

But the irony part of it is that the New Testament has more than five Authors why is it that only Apostle Paul is single out?

Other authors spoke about Jesus' crucifixion with Jesus Himself reported to say He will die from other NT writers, why only Apostle Paul?

I'll show you more than five statements of Apostle Paul that are far better than the word of your Allah concerning spiritual matters.
Business To BusinessRe: Babat Cargo:Pre Order & we import Your Good from China and USA at $5/kg by Emusan(m): 12:45pm On Sep 04, 2018
ayantaiwo:
pls anyone, how reliable is Nbc skye logistics,
I don't know anything about them but I can recommend Tugrow for you. I've done shipping business with him and his a Nairalander.

Join him on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3949468/order-ship-1688-taobao-alibaba/25
Christianity EtcRe: Jws, Beware Of Apostates by Emusan(m): 12:40pm On Sep 04, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
She knew she said the wrong thing. They feel no human can control human but gb controls them they are under their leadership in other words they recognise the 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men as their leaders. Lol


She thinks she can deceive you.
They know the right thing, that's why OneJ can tell you the GB are not perfect and my friend also knows that human aren't perfect.

The problem they have is to question the GB so they won't be tag an Apostate.
Christianity EtcRe: Your Final Decision On Whether To Die As A Christian Or As A Muslim by Emusan(m): 12:34pm On Sep 04, 2018
Abdulgaffar22:
@enilove

If all the premises of my argument is wrong, then take your time to spell out the reason for each of the premises if you are truthful
Premise 2 says Jesus crucifixion is one of the foundational pillars of Christianity. Yet the only reason you insist that all my premises are wrong is because they argue against your most cherised doctrine ;Jesus crucifixion. Is this not a contradiction on your part ?
I know you people are not seeking for the truth but just your wishful imagination of the wrong truth that's why you can only use ANYONE WHO IS HANGED ON A TREE IS A CURSE TO GOD without taking time to understand what the blessed Apostle Paul means by his statement.

The reason why your premises are wrong is because your Qur'an said it's isa that'll testify against the Christian and the Bible said Jesus is the Lord of the Judgement Day.
Christianity EtcRe: Jws, Beware Of Apostates by Emusan(m): 11:44am On Sep 04, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
- Teach that there is no happiness or peace outside the group eg gb saying once you leave the organization you become a drug addict, fornicator, bad person etc
I was having a discussion with JWs friend on why they didn't participate in National Election. She was like, as a human you can't control human only God can that's why we wait for God's kingdom to come instead of seeking human imperfect kingdom.

I was like, so your GB aren't trustworthy to lead a country or state? She couldn't answer...
Christianity EtcRE: Should Christian Eat Pig? Pig is not Kosher! by Emusan(op): 10:10am On Sep 04, 2018
May God help us through this lengthy thread but I'll try as much as possible to make it short.

Many comments on the other thread fall below Biblical understand of God's dealing with the Israelites.

What I'll stress out here is called Biblical Consummation! as this will help us to understand Christ and His relationship with the Old Testament.

What is Biblical Consummation?
Biblical Consummation is bringing to reality the depicting pictures of the old revelation. This consummation is perfectly done by Christ Jesus.

Just as Christ Himself said; "Do not think that I have come to ABOLISH the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to ABOLISH them but to fulfill (consummate) them." Matt 5:17 emphasis mine!

The Lord Jesus doesn’t abolish the Hebrew Bible, but perfectly fulfills it in his life and teachings. What the Lord Jesus was basically telling the people is that the Hebrew Bible was specifically revealed in such a way so as to find its true meaning and completion in the Messiah’s work and interpretation of it.

The Law and the Prophets are now subsumed and consummated in the Gospel of God’s kingdom as proclaimed in the life, ministry, death and resurrection of the King himself, the Lord Jesus.

"...For, being ignorant of the righteousness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Romans 10:1-4

Christ is the focal point of the Law, the very One who consummates the Law as he brings it to its completion and fulfillment.

"Therefore the Law has become our tutor
to lead us to Christ , so that we may be justified by faith." Galatians 3:24


The OT Scriptures contained shadows, types, analogies, and copies of spiritual realities that awaited the coming of Christ. OT peoples, places, events and things were deliberately designed to be copies of a far greater spiritual reality, with Christ manifesting that reality through his fulfillment of it. The NT Scriptures are basically the record of how Christ unveiled the spiritual reality underlying the OT revelation:

"And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. ... He said to them, ‘This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.’ Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. Luke 24:27, 45



Here is an example of how Christ consummated specific practices in order to bring out their true spiritual meaning.

Dietary Laws: The category where Eating of Pig and unclean things belong!

Old Testament Precedence


God told Moses that the dietary laws were given in order to distinguish Israel from the nations:

"For I am the LORD your God. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am holy. You shall not defile yourselves with any swarming thing that crawls on the ground. For I am the LORD who brought you up out of the land of Egypt to be your God. You shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. This is the law about beast and bird and every living creature that moves through the waters and every creature that swarms on the ground, to make a distinction between the unclean and the clean and between the living creature that may be eaten and the living creature that may not be eaten." Leviticus 11:44-47

"You are therefore to make a distinction between the clean animal and the unclean, and between the unclean bird and the clean; and you shall not make yourselves detestable by animal or by bird or by anything that creeps on the ground, which I have separated for you as unclean. Thus you are to be holy to Me, for I the LORD am holy; and I have set you apart from the peoples to be Mine." Leviticus 20:25-26

"For you are a people holy to the LORD your God, and the LORD has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: …" Deuteronomy 14:1-4a

These restrictions were intended to convey a spiritual truth, that Israel was distinct from the Gentiles by virtue of being God’s covenant people.

Consummation in the New Testament
The Apostle Peter, one of the Lord Jesus’ closest disciples, had some very interesting visions regarding clean versus unclean animals which helps provide further illumination on the purpose behind the dietary laws:
"...And the voice came to him again a second time, ‘What God has made clean, do not call common.’ This happened THREE TIMES, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven....And while Peter was pondering the vision, the Spirit said to him, ‘Behold, THREE MEN are looking for you. Rise and go down and accompany them without hesitation, for I have sent them....‘You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANY PERSON COMMON OR UNCLEAN..." Act 10

In other words, the unclean animals represented the Gentiles whom God was now going to make clean through faith in the Lord Jesus, thereby destroying any distinction between them and Israel: Read Ephesians 2:11-22

What this basically means is that the dietary distinctions were shadows that pointed to a greater reality; this reality being that God had left the Gentiles unclean for a while. That is why, as we have already shown, God instructed Israel to abstain from certain things in order to show them the distinction being made between them and the other nations. But now that the Messiah had come God was no longer going to keep the Gentiles in their uncleanness. He would now purify them along with Israel through belief and repentance in the name of the Lord Jesus: Read Acts 15:7-11

It is little wonder that now that the spiritual reality has come, now that the archetype has arrived, the shadow and copy are no longer binding in their original form and all foods are now declared clean:

"And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable....Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?’ ( Thus he declared all foods clean .) And he said, ‘What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.’" Mark 7:16-23

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Christianity EtcRe: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Emusan(m): 5:23pm On Sep 03, 2018
JMAN05:
But what is there in the bible that would make us to dogmatically state that the universe is created in six literal days? When we look at the bible text on this topic, we see that the bible didn't fix the duration of the days mentioned therein. The bible do not often have 24hrs in mind when "days" are used.
The bolden is pure lie...
The commandment to observe the 7th day modeling after creation was specific and the phrase "...EVENING and MORNING, were the first, second... indicated that this is our 24hrs

Besides, in Genesis creation account it was DAY and not DAYS
PoliticsRe: What Is The Light Situation In Your Area? by Emusan(m): 4:13pm On Aug 27, 2018
udumosam23:
Litawa-otawa, wenomon.
Samkani...
PoliticsRe: What Is The Light Situation In Your Area? by Emusan(m): 2:25pm On Aug 27, 2018
udumosam23:
Like twice a month. Idomi yakkurr LGA CRS. Yet there's no month I don't pay bills. It's frustrating.
Awilo ooo
Wolideya?
Nairaland GeneralRe: Graduate Poses With The Bush Pig He Killed After Hunting In Akwa Ibom. Photos by Emusan(m): 7:13pm On Aug 26, 2018
Asianguy:
I don't eat chicken and fish
Even the food you're eating, you're not supposed to eat them too
Christianity EtcRe: LIST: Real Reasons Why People Go To Church. Truth We All Know But Dont Say by Emusan(m): 7:12pm On Aug 26, 2018
chiommy123:
Jesus Christ built his church with his name and not any other name.
Is the name of the church Christ built you referred to as MY CHURCH earlier?
Christianity EtcRe: LIST: Real Reasons Why People Go To Church. Truth We All Know But Dont Say by Emusan(m): 5:34pm On Aug 26, 2018
chiommy123:
hope you are ready. Actually there is only one church built by christ. The problem is which one now. Is it Catholic, living faith, church of God, so many to name. So which one. I hope you answer this. Waiting
I will first of all ask you to show me from the scripture among these name you listed Christ himself built...
Christianity EtcRe: LIST: Real Reasons Why People Go To Church. Truth We All Know But Dont Say by Emusan(m): 5:17pm On Aug 26, 2018
chiommy123:
I can't speak for others but I DARE NOT miss service any Sunday except if am in a place I can't locate my church or I was sick.
What do you mean by MY CHURCH?

Last time I check, there is only one church which is the Body of Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: LIST: Real Reasons Why People Go To Church. Truth We All Know But Dont Say by Emusan(m): 5:14pm On Aug 26, 2018
HardMirror:
but many people do. Dont they?
That's why you'll know that you're not really born again during your own time simply because these are the ways you spent your Christian life.

Just like the person you quoted has said, if you're going to church because of all these, then it means you're not truly born again.

The psalmist says [b"I am glad, when they say let's go to the house of God"[/b]

Though I agree with you that many people are actually doing those things you listed and many pastors aware of Christian-Atheist in the church.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Graduate Poses With The Bush Pig He Killed After Hunting In Akwa Ibom. Photos by Emusan(m): 4:59pm On Aug 26, 2018
Asianguy:
Oh God not again,killing innocent animals
But the chicken and fish you do eat are dangerous animals or your best friends...
TravelRe: Flood Washes Off Part Of Kwaita Bridge Along Lokoja - Abuja Expressway (Photos) by Emusan(m): 9:36pm On Aug 25, 2018
Lebee4:
And where did you learn this aspect of your Engineering?

TravelRe: Flood Washes Off Part Of Kwaita Bridge Along Lokoja - Abuja Expressway (Photos) by Emusan(m): 7:47pm On Aug 25, 2018
metronaija2:
Motorists are advised to be cautious as they approach Kwaita Bridge along Lokoja - Abuja Expressway due to the wash-off of a major part of the bridge. The flood affected both sides of the bridge.

http://www.metronaija.ng/photos-flood-washes-off-part-of-kwaita-bridge/
The contractor needs to be arrested.
How can you construct a bridge without an abutment on the other side?

Even the side that has abutment wasn't protected well...
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Hardmirror by Emusan(m): 7:32pm On Aug 25, 2018
malvisguy212:
lol. were is pleatton ? come and see your atheists brother who can speak in tongues............I'm beginning to think, very soon atheism will be address as religion.
Smile...he even said he got baptized in the Holy Ghost but ask him about his experience. he'll try to relate it to knowledge cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Canon? by Emusan(m): 9:21pm On Aug 23, 2018
tartar9:
You forgot to add that both the canon and apocrypha are all of dubious origins
And your own Muhammad copied from these dubious origins...
Christianity EtcRe: Jws, Beware Of Apostates by Emusan(m): 9:34am On Aug 22, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
According to watchtower magazine Jesus was disobeying jehovah when he talked to Satan.

When did jehovah say anybody who criticises gb teaching, Jw beliefs or cast Jw in bad light is an apostate?

Give us bible verse
JMAN05 OneJ

Can you answer these and support it with scripture?

because you people always say they's nothing you do that can't be found in the scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Jws, Beware Of Apostates by Emusan(m): 9:28am On Aug 22, 2018
JMAN05:
Obedience to our creator is not fear. But it doesn't matter what others say. Jehovah hates it. I discuss with people here on nairaland, and if you wish Seun, we can talk about my belief. But never, ever with an apostate handed over to Satan. Never!
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Emusan(m): 12:50pm On Aug 15, 2018
nwabekeyi:
I have thought about this in this manner also but it doesn't make sense to me.
This is where you missed it, it's not about you rather about what God says in His word.

This your statement is one of the things that gave rise to many denominations in Christendom today. Using fallible mind to counter God's word so that it will make people feel happy.

It's not possible for earth and the universe to be created in "literally" six days, God is not a magician, if you follow that text literally, you will miss it.
God has made the earth is such a way that things happens gradually with time, it doesn't happen in a twinkle of an eyes. Eg.

You don't grow in a day
Women don't get pregnant and deliver in a day
Plants and trees don't grow in a day.
If the word of God says the universe was created in six literally days, who are you to say otherwise because you think it shouldn't be?

But you were born in a day (in fact in few hours)
Pregnancy occurs in a day (in fact in few seconds)
Plant and tree start to sprout in a day

Growing is a process and you didn't read it anywhere where the Bible says God was growing the heavens and earth.

You have to also understand my own concept to that scripture rather than forcing me to take yours. It's quite beyond what you think
I didn't force it on you that's why I took my time to explain and I think my explanation is very simple to decipher even for a primary pupils.

NOTE: Your misunderstanding about 2 Peter is why I quote you in the first place because 2 Peter has nothing to do with Genesis creation account as I clearly explained before.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Emusan(m): 12:10pm On Aug 15, 2018
nwabekeyi:
Reason bro, put on your thinking Cap.

God said I created the earth and all within in 6 days in genesis and in psalms and 2 peters he said a day in his eyes might be thousands of years to us. Make a sense out it, there's no other part of the bible that discribes the timing of God aside these two. God didn't lie, we don't understand Genesis

How do you guys read you own bible?
You don't get it, do you? And you people don't take time to grab the intent of the author rather just pick a verse and use it the way you want.

Now, let me expatiate that 2 Peter for you so that you can see the clear picture the Blessed Apostle is trying to bring out.

"...With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

The underline is our focus,

1 day = 1,000 years
1,000 years = 1 day

From the first instance, it means (let's assuming by year 5050 the whole world will be one language) this event is so-so far to we human but to God it's just like a day or tomorrow here.

In the second instance, it means (if universe is actually Billion years old) those years are just like a day OR yesterday to God that the event happened but to we human it's a very long event.

You can see the writer's picture clearly here that God wasn't bond by time the way we human are.

That's why the verses before this was talking about people impatient who think the event of Jesus second coming is taken longer time to happen but this event is just like tomorrow with God even though it's over 2000years now to us.

This is totally different from Genesis creation account that used "...and evening and morning were first day"

If those days were actually thousand years the author could've simply wrote First years but using the phrase EVENING AND MORNING means the author is actually talking about our 24hrs.

That's why I asked where do you place EVENING AND MORNING in your years? Though you couldn't answer!
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Belief In God And Science Mutually Exclusive? by Emusan(m): 8:44am On Aug 15, 2018
nwabekeyi:
that is not true, can you kindly explain this verses below?

Psalms 90 vs 4
A thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night.


2 Peter 3 vs 8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

Now relate those passages to Genesis chapter one
These two passages never have anything to do with Genesis account.

In Genesis the phrase "and the EVENING and the MORNING were first day" appeared throughout the creation account.

Where was evening and morning belong in years?

So, you might have misunderstood those passages or calling God a liar by saying EVENING AND MORNING didn't make a day.

What those passages simply mean is that time is not hidden from God or God doesn't bond with time.
Science/TechnologyRe: NASA Launches Parker Solar Probe For Historic Mission To The Sun (Photos) by Emusan(m): 10:37pm On Aug 13, 2018
calculator123:
Help your ignorance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4.
Except you can give me evidence as to why you think it isn't possible.
The problem with people like you is that you don't do your own research.

Watching the video, you can see an unbroken radio communication between the astronauts and the control room infact there's another video where US President was shown to be communicating with the astronauts.

But let me tell you, at the early stage of putting second ISS in space. The second leap to overcome was COMMUNICATION because they want to carry out experiment and they need unbroken line of communication. The problem is, radio wave can only TRAVEL in a STRAIGHT LINE.

So how did they over come it?
First, They fixed over 20 radio receivers around the globe. Some were even fixed on the deck of a ship. So that as the ISS flying over them, the nearest receiver can pick up the signal and transmit it.

Second, that wasn't enough because of percentage of water and the ship can't speed like the ISS, so 8 special aircraft were constructed and each carried a receiver. these aircraft will be flying round the earth.

Lastly, Now look at the processes or methods they undergone just to have unbroken communication with ISS which is just some few kilometers away. Mind you satellite weren't common that time. Today, they're over 9 satellite that the ISS flying under to transmit information.

Tell me which technology that can transmit both Video and radio from the moon which is million miles away down to the earth in late 50s?

Now, look at this sun mission, the same people will tell us that why the probe is millions of miles away from the earth, they can still receive signal from it. The most advanced satellite in the world can't transmit signal over a million miles without intermediate booster.
Science/TechnologyRe: NASA Launches Parker Solar Probe For Historic Mission To The Sun (Photos) by Emusan(m): 9:04am On Aug 13, 2018
mekleelex200:
I made a little research in what u said and I can see some conspiracy in NASA space travels, please can u tell me more sir. I look forward to ur response. Thanks.
See reading about astrophysics and space with open mind will make you to realize that this people are not to be trusted about their claim.

When I first having Change of mind is about GRAVITY.

How can the huge SUN gravity that holds the biggest planet Jupiter in the solar system from falling away still allow Earth gravity to operate freely.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by Emusan(m): 9:17pm On Aug 12, 2018
That's why I said you need a Bible School not online argument.


akeensbussy:
I must bear the consequences of the sin I never committed in the first place....
The only sin you'll bear consequence for is the one YOUR ADAMIC NATURE causes you to commit i.e killing, idolatry, fornication e.t.c

according to the bible, sin were committed by Adam and Eve...
This is where you missed it.
The sin Bible recorded being committed by Adam & Eve is the one that CORRUPTED their NATURE.

This corruption is the one that leads to death and allow Satan's influence to penetrate.

Now, let me break it down for you.

I will use English word of "SIN" as an acronym which means "Satan's Influence over Nature"

Before Adam & Eve sinned, nothing can be traced to their own life at that time like SIN, their NATURE can't die nor opens to Satan's influence.

So the corruption of Adam's Nature and how this corrupted Nature can allow Satan's influence to penetrate is what Bible was talking about in Genesis

then me that was born more than 2000 years later still suffering from the consequences... And God is loving God. He said we should forgive while He will not forgive...
The reason you suffer from the consequence is because you're still born with the same CORRUPTED NATURE of Adam & Eve.

I know your point is Jesus' death supposed to vanish sin meanwhile you didn't know that people who live on earth today are not directly born by Jesus.

Now, see how Bible put it;
1. You must be BORN again. Why? Because you need a new nature
2. How will it be possible, by going into one Mother's womb? No! You need to be born of Water & Spirit.
3. That's why, "if any MAN be IN CHRIST, he is a NEW CREATURE..."
NOTE: The word used for MAN here can also refer to NATURE and I intentionally bolden the IN because it expresses the actual phrase used for a baby in the womb

The Bible is a fairytale.....

Besides, I am not an Athiest..just that I don't belief in the God painted in the christian bible.
If you don't believe then your conclusion shouldn't be "fairytale"
Christianity EtcRe: Which One Of These Has Science Shown To Take Millions Of Years To Form? by Emusan(m): 9:42am On Aug 08, 2018
eventtinz:
i reckon you don"t read much...just like every other theist.
Why can't you answer it with proof?
PoliticsRe: 12 Sokoto Lawmakers Abandon Tambuwal, Declare Support For Buhari by Emusan(m): 5:31pm On Aug 01, 2018
and what happened to the remaining 18?
Or is 12 greater than 18?

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