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JimaeChinko:
You watch too much Bethel films produced by Stephen Lett and Anthony Morris.
What do you expect when all what you watch are those boring watchtower film clips that tell lies upon lies..


You suddenly want to take the suffering that the Jews, Blacks, some evangelical Christians called the Confessing Church who during these period were persecuted by Hitler Nazi party and claim that only the Jehovah Witnesses where persecuted. You lie too much. Get a Handkerchief and clean your mouth first before we continue.

All religious groups inclusive of the Catholic Church that Hitler was raised in suffered one form of Persecution or the other except some of them that finally submitted to supporting the Nazi Party or be wiped out. Even 400 of the Catholic Priests that was Hitler was raised in were sent to the Concentration camp as Hitler wanted to totally clean Germany of any form of Christianity. He had a new liking for Islam and felt Christianity was too liberal, weak and too peaceful in mobilizing the people as against Islam that he felt was more decisive in that respect. Many Islamic Muftis who also hated the Jews like Hitler also visited Hitler during his time alive. Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, on November 28, 1941, at the Reich Chancellory in Berlin. The Arab countries were firmly convinced that Germany would win the war and that the Arab cause would then prosper. The Arabs were Germany’s natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely the English, the Jews and the Communists. Therefore they were prepared to cooperate with Germany with all their hearts and stood ready to participate in the war, not only negatively by the commission of acts of sabotage and the instigation of revolutions, but also positively by the formation of an Arab Legion. Not all Muslims though were bad. There were some who didn't obey the qu'ran and hid some Jews from the Nazi Army like Imam Si Kaddour Benghabrit who hid some Jews in his Paris Mosque. A movie was even made about him.

What you forgot to tell us( It might have escaped your mind as you didn't see it on Jehovah Witness website for you to copy and paste as usual ) is that early in 1933, the Watchtower office in Berlin was closed and Jehovah's Witnesses were banned in many German states. This was due to the refusal of Jehovah's Witnesses to swear loyalty to the government or to serve in its armed forces.

In an attempt to appease Hitler into lifting the ban, Rutherford instigated a Declaration of Facts and sent a Letter to Hitler discussing Watchtower's support of the Nazi regime.

Current Watchtower references provide a deceptive portrayal of these documents, through selective quoting. The Proclaimer's book mentions that Rutherford wrote a letter to Hitler under the context of "facing Nazi oppression", in which the Watchtower Society is made to sound as if they were firmly against the Nazi regime.

"Therefore, on June 25, 1933, a declaration regarding their ministry and its objectives was adopted by Jehovah's Witnesses at an assembly in Berlin. Copies were sent to all the high government officials, and millions more were distributed to the public. Nevertheless, in July 1933 the courts refused to grant a hearing for relief. Early the following year, a personal letter regarding the situation was written by J. F. Rutherford to Adolf Hitler and delivered to him by special messenger. Then the entire worldwide brotherhood went into action.

On Sunday morning, October 7, 1934, at nine o'clock, every group of Witnesses in Germany assembled. They prayed for Jehovah's guidance and blessing. Then each group sent a letter to German government officials declaring their firm determination to keep on serving Jehovah." - Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimer's Of God's Kingdom p.693
It is surprising to find the opposite is true, which can be identified when reading the content of Rutherford's 1933 letter to Hitler and the Declaration of Facts.

Russell, founder of the Watchtower, was a Zionist and sympathetic to Jews as part of modern day fulfilment of Bible prophecy. Rutherford initially continued such support, but changed by the 1930's to an anti-Semitic stance.

"Be it known once and for all that those profiteering, conscienceless, selfish men who call themselves Jews, and who control the greater portion of the finances of the world and the business of the world, will never be the rulers in this new earth. God would not risk such selfish men with such an important position" The Golden Age 1927 Feb 23 p.343
"The Jews were evicted from Palestine and ‘their house left unto them desolate’ because they rejected Christ Jesus, the beloved and anointed King of Jehovah. To this day the Jews have not repented of this wrongful act committed by their forefathers. … In 1917 the Balfour Declaration, sponsored by the heathen governments of Satan's organization, came forth, recognized the Jews, and bestowed upon them great favors. ... The Jews have received more attention at their hands than they really deserved." Vindication - Book II (1932) pp.257-258
During the time of Rutherford, Watchtower published a tirade of insults against other Churches and governments. The Catholic Church come under the greatest condemnation and bought this to the attention of the Nazi government, petitioning against the Watchtower Society. In 1933, the Nazi government banned the Watchtower's German operations.

“In June of the so-called “Holy Year” of 1933 Adolf Hitler’s regime seized the Watch Tower Society’s property in Magdeburg and banned the activities of Jehovah’s people in Germany as regards meetings and literature distribution, though the property was returned that October.” Yearbook 1975 p.174

In an effort to overturn the ban, Rutherford sent a Letter and a Declaration to Hitler, in which he praises Hitler for his anti-Anglo/American campaign and his stance against the Jews.

Following is part of an English translation of the Letter to Hitler.

"Dear Reichskanzler,
…
The Brooklyn headquarter of the Watchtower Society is pro German in an exemplary way and has been so for many years. For that reason, in 1918, the president of the Society and seven members of the board of directors were sentenced to 80 years in prison, because the president refused to use two of the magazines published in America under his direction for war propaganda against Germany. These two magazines, "The Watchtower" and "Bible Student" were the only magazines in America which refused to engage in anti-German propaganda and for that reason were prohibited and suppressed in America during the war.

In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and Catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and its board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to repudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews.

The conference of five thousand delegates also noted - as is expressed in the declaration - that the Bible Researchers of Germany are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed respecting the relationship of humans to God, namely: honesty of the created being towards its creator.

The conference came to the conclusion that there are no contradictions when it comes to the relationship between the Bible Researchers of Germany to the national government of the German Reich. To the contrary, referring to the purely religious and unpolitical goals and efforts of the Bible Researchers, it can be said that these are in full agreement with the identical goals of the national government of the German Reich.

...

We are looking forward to your kind approval, which we hope to receive soon, and want to assure our highest respect to you, honorable Mr. Reichskanzler.

Yours faithfully,
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Magdeburg"

For all your noise of Jehovah Witnesses in Germany today. They are not even up to 200,000 while the Christendom without any preaching are at 50million+.

What an exhibit

Myer:
Prophets and Messengers of God are identified by the power of God working in them and through them. This power is made manifest in miracles that ordinary humans cannot perform.

Judaism thrives because Moses performed miracles.
Christianity thrives because Jesus performed miracles.

Did Muhammed perform miracles?

It is good as you asked .

For your information Muhammad performed miracles and prophesied .
A prophet must have a prophecy which must come to pass . He may or may not have miracles. In the case of Muhammad , he had both .

His miracle :

Hadith
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet (ﷺ) the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet (ﷺ) was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa`id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

Sahih al-Bukhari 268
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 21
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 268  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari
How many men can do this ? He was given the power of Thirty( 30 l men for sex and not for battle or work of Allah according to this hadith above.

What about his prophecy :

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"[It is] a revelation from the Lord of the worlds."
"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta."
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 43 - 46)

This was the prophecy of Muhammad which truly came to pass as he decreed.

Hadith

Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
In-book : Book 64, Hadith 450
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 713  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

I hope you can see that Muhammad was a prophet who had a prophecy and a miracle from Allah .
Although Allah is not God Almighty our Creator .

Abdulgaffar22:
Instead of you to pinpoint what is actually wrong with my arguments. You now resolved to calling Muslims swine and dogs. No problem. Sooner or later, truth will reveal itself

I also want to know why I should believe the message of Allah and Muhammad , since the death on the cross does not make sense to you.

Abdulgaffar22:
Instead of you to pinpoint what is actually wrong with my arguments. You now resolved to calling Muslims swine and dogs. No problem. Sooner or later, truth will reveal itself

There are so many things wrong with your argument and reasoning .

1) You said Jesus did not want to die and so had to pray three times for the death not to come to pass , and you believed it .
Why did you not believe the remaining chapters and verses of the Bible which inform us that after this very prayers , the Jews came and arrested him and killed him ?

2) You said it is not written in Jews scriptures that the Messiah would be made a curse on the cross .
But is it not written that he would die for the sins of the world ?
That sin which the Messiah will be killed for is what ? A curse or blessing ?
3) You said God does not lie , which is the truth.When God prophesied that the Messiah would be killed and it does not happen as He said it , wouldn't that amount to lying ? And the prophets also liars ?

READ THE SCRIPTURES BELOW WHICH WAS GIVEN REGARDING THE MESSIAH. THERE ARE STILL MORE:

Isaiah 53:4-10 KJV
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. [5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. [6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. [7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. [8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. [9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. [10] Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

compton11:
who have faith in fabricated book?

Hadith is not book but a collection of words after the prophet have gone!
Some are real and authentic while some are weak or fabricated.
If it is weak or fabricated,we Muslims reject it.

Al Quran is 100% belief.

heheheehe your friend segenaija has already tried this your own logic and he failed,i have already told u why uthman ordered all the Quran scripts be burned,so it is your problem whether you believe or not.

It is because he wanted it to remain in Quraysh dialect it was during the time of prophet Muhammed(Saw).

Quraysh dialect is the Arabic Quran we are using and Quran revealed to prophet Muhammed in Quraysh dialect.

The hafs and the others u talked about are same with maybe different writing style in some places except it ain't the same with the fake Quran Christians are printing to deceiving people.

how many time I'm I going to tell I it is fabricated?

shia do mutah not all Muslims.
Marriage is about love not contract in Islam.

And why did u called mut'ah prostitution?

They did marriage but the Only bad thing in that is that they are marry for specific time which is wrong in islam.

why would I practice it when there was no law that says I should practise it?
And the hadith that backed it likely fabricated.

no surah for it and how many time u want to hear?

common logic will tell u this hadith is weak.
How can sheep eat a paper especially under a pillow?

How do sheep enter and check pillow?

This is pathetic.

heheheehe even if it is abrogated,it supposed to be in Al Quran and we supposed to see the law that abrogated it but we didn't see any of It.

u still ain't quiting about the error and contradictions of Quran?
Keep it coming then

what u mean I might be right?
I'm right,not everybody fall for the deception of you Christians.

where did prophet Muhammed said no Warner wasn't sent before him?
I need the place.

Muslim is who submitted to the will of Allah.

u just post a verse and I don't understand,tell me what u think about the verse.

bro stop being dumb,u understand English clearly aint u?

And of all the things we created in pairs

In Yoruba if u understand it

Ati awọn n ti a da ni meji meji

Different from

We created everything in pairs.

A da gbogbo nkan ni meji meji

in islam her father was imran and her mama was hannat.

Islam never mentioned the name of prophet musa sister and father.

Plus Bible never mentioned the name of Mary father and mother too,so how do u know mary father aint imran?

even she was called the daughter of imran many time in Al Quran.
I don't have problem with my Quran.

There is Joseph the father of Jesus and there is Joseph the son of Jacob,same name different people
so why having problem with two people bearing " imran" plus QURAN never mentioned the name of Moses father.

where in the hadith the prophet said children are going to hell fire?

heheheehe Hadith is hadith different from Quran and not all of it are true.

I keep asking what is the meaning of taqiyyah?

oh like how Jesus lied that he wasn't going to festival and he eventually go? John 7

Bro u are sweet to debate with

show me the place where prophet Muhammed (saw) made mentioned of Bible and show me where Allah say bible is not corrupted!

If not corrupted,sebi u saw it with your two eyes where three versions bible in the same verse were saying different record about David,not even only that,let me give u another shock

Plus u failed to tell me how judasi dead and did judas returned the money he collected?

Let me give you another shock

King James Bible

For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village-Luke 9:56

Now in another Luke 9:56 in another Bible version

New International Version

Then he and his disciples went to another village-luke 9:56.

The same verse,different statement.

Another one for u bro.

King James Bible
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost- Matthew 18:11

In the same verse

English revised version omitted it.

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Matthew 18:11

Why would Muslims be fabricating lies against Muhammad?
Anything written that is disgraceful are said to be weak .But you Muslims are just fooling yourselves . Truth is is a guide while neglect of truth is disastrous.

Uthman burnt all the different versions of the Quran to rewrite a new one in the dialect of the Quraysh ?
a) Why did he burn all ? Was there no one written in the dialect he wanted ? Are there no one in Quraysh dialect that could be maintained?
b) If Allah is true God , why did he not tell them to maintain only the recitation of the Quraysh?
c) This means Uthman was knowledgeable more than Allah , Gabriel and Muhammad:
d) What was the sense in recitation ? If the Quran had been written as they came , would there be need to burn them due to errors?

Hadith
Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said:
Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right.
Sahih Muslim 821 a
In-book : Book 6, Hadith 334
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1789  

An excuse that a tamed sheep ate the Quran under a pillow is a lie as you can see.
Why did the wife of your prophet lie ? To cover up those nonsense said by your prophet. She knew Muhammad was a liar that was why she felt she could lie about anything to cover up.

Muta is wrong for many reasons . Why did Muhammad approve it ? This is Sahih. Is that fabricated also?

Hadith
Ibn Uraij reported:
Ati' reported that jibir b. Abdullah came to perform 'Umra, and we came to his abode, and the people asked him about different things, and then they made a mention of temporary marriage, whereupon he said: Yes, we had been benefiting ourselves by this temporary marriage during the lifetime of the Prophet (ﷺ) and during the time of Abu Bakr and 'Umar.

Sahih Muslim 1405 c
In-book : Book 16, Hadith 18
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3248  

ABOUT THE ERRORS IN THE QURAN:

---THE FIRST MUSLIM. You said Adam was the first and other ones are also first in their times, which I disagreed by reminding you that Muhammad Ishmael came b4 Muhammad and Muhammad said no warner was b4 him. You asked me to give you an evidence . Here it is :

Allah SWT said:
"And We had not given them any scriptures which they could study, and We had not sent to them before you, [O Muhammad], any warner."
(QS. Saba 34: Verse 44)

THIS SHOWED MUHAMMAD WAS NOT THE FIRST PROPHET AS HE CLAIMED .THIS IS AN ERROR
--- Surah 51:49 . Tell me any Tafseer / Tafsir that agrees with you , if there non , then you are a liar and that makes it another error.
--- Mary. You want me to show you evidence about the father of Mary :

Exodus 6:20 KJV
And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years.

Allah SWT said:
يٰٓأُخْتَ هٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا
"O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28)

Mary was called sister of Aaron and was also called the daughter of Imram / Amram .What a Big historical error.

How many times do you want me to show to you where Muhammad said baby might go to hell ?
Hadith
A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said:

Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.
Sahih Muslim 2662 c
In-book : Book 46, Hadith 47
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6436  

Any hadith that says otherwise is just confirming to the contradictions in your books.

You said Jesus lied? He did not lie.

John 7:8 KJV
Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up YET unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.

John 7:9 KJV
When he had said these words unto them, he abode STILL in Galilee.

He clearly told them he was not coming for now and after waiting for sometime , he later went. How was that a lie. He simply did not want them to know the exact time he will be there.

As per the Biblical errors . You can't call them errors per se because they are fabricated versions

I still have more than 52 errors in the Quran also
Again :

Allah SWT said:
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."
(QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 86)

Do you believe the sun sets IN A SPRING OF DARK MUD ? Does it move to a resting place?

Hadith
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).

Sahih in chain (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4002
In-book : Book 32, Hadith 34
English translation : Book 31, Hadith 3991
Abu Dawood

mhmsadyq:
Ok.

Wouldn't it be Noble for a Muslim to learn Islam from a Trinitarian?

[2:109] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَدَّ کَثِیۡرٌ مِّنۡ اَہۡلِ الۡکِتٰبِ لَوۡ یَرُدُّوۡنَکُمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ اِیۡمَانِکُمۡ کُفَّارًا ۚۖ حَسَدًا مِّنۡ عِنۡدِ اَنۡفُسِہِمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ مَا تَبَیَّنَ لَہُمُ الۡحَقُّ ۚ فَاعۡفُوۡا وَ اصۡفَحُوۡا حَتّٰی یَاۡتِیَ اللّٰہُ بِاَمۡرِہٖ ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ عَلٰی کُلِّ شَیۡءٍ قَدِیۡرٌ ﴿۱۰۹﴾

Many of the People of the Book desire to turn you back to disbelief after you have believed because of the jealousy they have in their hearts, despite the fact that the truth has become evident to them. So keep forbearing and overlooking till Allah sends His command. Verily, Allah has (absolute) control over everything.


Talking about the Jews and the Christians:

[2:113] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ لَیۡسَتِ النَّصٰرٰی عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۪ وَّ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرٰی لَیۡسَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۙ وَّ ہُمۡ یَتۡلُوۡنَ الۡکِتٰبَ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ قَالَ الَّذِیۡنَ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ مِثۡلَ قَوۡلِہِمۡ ۚ فَاللّٰہُ یَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَہُمۡ یَوۡمَ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ فِیۡمَا کَانُوۡا فِیۡہِ یَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ﴿۱۱۳﴾

And the Jews say: ‘The Christians do not have their base upon anything (i.e., sound faith),’ and the Christians say: ‘The Jews do not have their base upon anything,’ yet they (all) read the Book (revealed by Allah). Likewise, they (the polytheists) who do not have any (heavenly) knowledge (at all) also make statements like theirs. So Allah will (Himself) judge between them on the Day of Resurrection in the matter in which they differ.

For ypur lies:

[10:69] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"قُلۡ اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ یَفۡتَرُوۡنَ عَلَی اللّٰہِ الۡکَذِبَ لَا یُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿ؕ۶۹﴾

Say: ‘Surely, those who fabricate lies against Allah shall not prosper.’

[10:70] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"مَتَاعٌ فِی الدُّنۡیَا ثُمَّ اِلَیۡنَا مَرۡجِعُہُمۡ ثُمَّ نُذِیۡقُہُمُ الۡعَذَابَ الشَّدِیۡدَ بِمَا کَانُوۡا یَکۡفُرُوۡنَ ﴿٪۷۰﴾

There is (but a few days’) enjoyment in this world. Then they are to return to Us. We shall then afflict them with a severe torment as recompense for their disbelief.

Do you believe this as a true story or fable :

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ نَصْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، عَنْ مَعْمَرٍ، عَنْ هَمَّامِ بْنِ مُنَبِّهٍ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ كَانَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ يَغْتَسِلُونَ عُرَاةً، يَنْظُرُ بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ، وَكَانَ مُوسَى يَغْتَسِلُ وَحْدَهُ، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا يَمْنَعُ مُوسَى أَنْ يَغْتَسِلَ مَعَنَا إِلاَّ أَنَّهُ آدَرُ، فَذَهَبَ مَرَّةً يَغْتَسِلُ، فَوَضَعَ ثَوْبَهُ عَلَى حَجَرٍ، فَفَرَّ الْحَجَرُ بِثَوْبِهِ، فَخَرَجَ مُوسَى فِي إِثْرِهِ يَقُولُ ثَوْبِي يَا حَجَرُ‏.‏ حَتَّى نَظَرَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ إِلَى مُوسَى، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا بِمُوسَى مِنْ بَأْسٍ‏.‏ وَأَخَذَ ثَوْبَهُ، فَطَفِقَ بِالْحَجَرِ ضَرْبًا ‏"

‏‏‏ فَقَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ وَاللَّهِ إِنَّهُ لَنَدَبٌ بِالْحَجَرِ سِتَّةٌ أَوْ سَبْعَةٌ ضَرْبًا بِالْحَجَرِ‏‏

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The (people of) Bani Israel used to take bath naked (all together) looking at each other. The Prophet (ﷺ) Moses used to take a bath alone. They said, 'By Allah! Nothing prevents Moses from taking a bath with us except that he has a scrotal hernia.' So once Moses went out to take a bath and put his clothes over a stone and then that stone ran away with his clothes. Moses followed that stone saying, "My clothes, O stone! My clothes, O stone! till the people of Bani Israel saw him and said, 'By Allah, Moses has got no defect in his body. Moses took his clothes and began to beat the stone." Abu Huraira added, "By Allah! There are still six or seven marks present on the stone from that excessive beating."

Sahih al-Bukhari 278
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 30
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 277  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

PervertProphet:
My brother if you don't know Hadiths. Ask to be educated. Don't embarrass yourself in the public with wrong knowledge. Go and study the Narration Chain. The sunnah doesn't only even appear in this authentic Sahih al-Bukhari hadith that I quoted here for you here. Let me show you 3 more similar hadith all of them all authentic Hadiths and not Da'if hadith as you are clearly trying to lie before the public. Instead of trying to cover up and frame this hadith as weak instead you should be doing a soul search and ask yourself if you are not really just wasting time with Muhammad. This is what any honest person will be doing right now.

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي مَرْيَمَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو غَسَّانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ شَكَّ فِي أَحَدِهِمَا ـ مُتَمَاسِكِينَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ، حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ أَوَّلُهُمْ وَآخِرُهُمُ الْجَنَّةَ، وَوُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى ضَوْءِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Seventy-thousand or seven-hundred thousand of my followers (the narrator is in doubt as to the correct number) will enter Paradise holding each other till the first and the last of them enter Paradise at the same time, and their faces will have a glitter like that of the moon at night when it is full."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6543
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 551  

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ ـ لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيُّهُمَا قَالَ ـ مُتَمَاسِكُونَ، آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا، لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ، وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Seventy thousand or seven hundred thousand of my followers will enter Paradise. (Abu Hazim, the sub-narrator, is not sure as to which of the two numbers is correct.) They will be holding on to each other, the first will not entering the last one does, their faces like the moon on a full moon night."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6554
In-book : Book 81, Hadith 143
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith 560  


Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ أَبِي حَازِمٍ - عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏

‏ لَيَدْخُلَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أُمَّتِي سَبْعُونَ أَلْفًا أَوْ سَبْعُمِائَةِ أَلْفٍ - لاَ يَدْرِي أَبُو حَازِمٍ أَيَّهُمَا قَالَ - مُتَمَاسِكُونَ آخِذٌ بَعْضُهُمْ بَعْضًا لاَ يَدْخُلُ أَوَّلُهُمْ حَتَّى يَدْخُلَ آخِرُهُمْ وُجُوهُهُمْ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ ‏"
Abu Hazim narrated it on the authority of Ibn Sa'd that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
Seventy thousand persons or seven hundred thousand persons (Abu Hazim does not remember the exact number) would enter Paradise holding and supporting one another, and the first among them would not enter till the last among them would enter (therein) ; (they would enter simultaneously) and their faces would be bright like the full moon.

Sahih Muslim 219
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 434
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 1, Hadith 424

Stop lying against the prophet of Allah.

This hadith was recorded when he did not know what he was doing. And according to the laws , he can't be held liable because it was said during his insane moments :

Hadith

Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
In-book : Book 58, Hadith 17
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 400  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

During that period explained above , he said this also :

Hadith

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said:

"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 326
In-book : Book 2, Hadith 2
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 2, Hadith 327
Sunan an-Nasai

I am posting all these to warn you so that Allah does not send the devil after you .

compton11:
why u so worry then?
I've already told u what was done,so it is your problem to accept or not.

Ok the hadith is fabricated,is that what u want to hear?

I don't really know that.

cos u said it and I asked what was it.

practising what?

surah for what?

sheep in your house use to eat paper right?

do u even know the meaning of taqiyyah?

keep it coming

heheheehe two different encounters and that doesn't happen in one day.
So u think the answer of lot people is only that two?
Keeping deceiving yourself

Even the statement he said before they utter the statements are different.
Let start from verse 80
Quran 7 v 80-82
And (remember) Lout (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns)?
"Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)."
And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!"

This is the beginning of their encounter with them he even ask them questions there compare to

Quran 29 v 28-29
And Lut, as he said to his people, "Surely you indeed come up to (such) obscenity as in no way has any of the worlds (that) preceded you (done so).

Two different encounters and different statement.
Try again bro

another GJO moshay tactic.

A Muslim is a person that submit to the will of his Lord and that person was Adam during his time.

All of them were Muslims.

what are u trying to insinuating Here?

wow Mr man this is the correct translation

And of every thing We have created in pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
Allah was talking about everything that he created in pair not that everything was created in pair.

If u understand Yoruba
Ati ninu awọn nkan ti ada ni mejimeji
Or
Ati gbogbo nkan ti a da ni mejimeji

heheheehe
Sister by kin,maryam was from the descendant of Moses the brother of Aaron,so there is nothing bad calling him sister of good person,and sister doesn't mean siblings.

It can be used in many ways.

Now look that Bible
Matthew 1:1
King James Bible
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Is Jesus the son of David?
Is David the son of Abraham?

I've already answer u on This

has the baby reached the age that knows the part he would chose?
Stop asking stupid question.

Hasnaa’ bint Mu’aawiyyah from Bani Suraym said: my paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allaah, who will be in Paradise? He said: Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise. Narrated by Imaam Ahmad, 5/409; classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Da’eef al-Jaami’, 5997.

which 100% and which truth be deceiving yourself.
Is it in your contradicted book make 100% to u?

Even the event was contradicted
How did judas DIED?
Did judas returned the money he collected?

u sin u get punished for your own sin.

Human sacrifice,yall ain't difference from sango people.

When God curse Eve for eating fruit,he said

"I will make your pains in childbearing very severe"

Now Jesus died for Adam and Eve sin,then how how women are still in pain during child bearing?

Why should you have faith in fabricated books ?
Qur'an was burnt because of errors and the uthman version is no longer available. The Hafs and other ones are recitations according to what they feel they should write down.

The hadiiths are either weak or okay according to you Muslims to hide the truths.

The issue of breast feeding shows who Muhammad was . What about the case of temporary marriage ( Mut'a / prostitution )?

You Muslims don't practiced adult breast feeding because it is a shameful thing. That is why you keep asking me , '' what was abandoned or abolished '', as if you don't understand the question.

Like I said , where is the surah for it ? Ate by the sheep of Allah?

Hadith
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed
[1], and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it."

[1]: <i>These verses were abrogated in recitation but not ruling. Other ahadith establish the number for fosterage to be 5.</i>

Hasan (Darussalam)
English : Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1944
Arabic : Book 9, Hadith 2020
Sunan Ibn Majah

ABOUT THE ERRORS AND CONTRADICTIONS/ERRORS IN THE QURAN.

--The story of Lot -- You might be right.
--The first Muslim? - You are wrong because , Ishmael was b4 Muhammad and Muhammad claimed no warner was sent to his people b4 him .
-- The sun set in a place -- Your failure to answer this is an indication that it is a BIG ERROR.
--The surah 51:49 is a clear evidence that the writer of the Quran cannot be God. Even your scholars all agreed that the Quran is saying that , ''everything was created in pairs.
-- That of Mary isn't about descendants Mary was called the daughter of Imran who was also the father of Moses and Aaron:

Allah SWT said:
"And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 12)

Another contradiction is the issue of a baby in the hadith a quoted earlier and the one you gave above on the same issue .
I gave you an evidence from your book , you called it ''weak'' and rejected it . I gave you another one which is strong , you rejected it and brought forward a '' weak '' hadith to counter my claim . You can see your hypocrisy now. Your Taqiyyah tactics will land you in hell.
All liars are candidates of hell fire.

If you say the Bible is corrupt , why did Muhammad swear by the Bible and why did Allah say the Bible is not corrupt ?

mhmsadyq:
Ok.
Wouldn't it be Noble for a Muslim to learn Islam from a Trinitarian?

[2:109] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَدَّ کَثِیۡرٌ مِّنۡ اَہۡلِ الۡکِتٰبِ لَوۡ یَرُدُّوۡنَکُمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ اِیۡمَانِکُمۡ کُفَّارًا ۚۖ حَسَدًا مِّنۡ عِنۡدِ اَنۡفُسِہِمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ مَا تَبَیَّنَ لَہُمُ الۡحَقُّ ۚ فَاعۡفُوۡا وَ اصۡفَحُوۡا حَتّٰی یَاۡتِیَ اللّٰہُ بِاَمۡرِہٖ ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ عَلٰی کُلِّ شَیۡءٍ قَدِیۡرٌ ﴿۱۰۹﴾
Many of the People of the Book desire to turn you back to disbelief after you have believed because of the jealousy they have in their hearts, despite the fact that the truth has become evident to them. So keep forbearing and overlooking till Allah sends His command. Verily, Allah has (absolute) control over everything.
Talking about the Jews and the Christians:
[2:113] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ لَیۡسَتِ النَّصٰرٰی عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۪ وَّ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرٰی لَیۡسَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۙ وَّ ہُمۡ یَتۡلُوۡنَ الۡکِتٰبَ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ قَالَ الَّذِیۡنَ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ مِثۡلَ قَوۡلِہِمۡ ۚ فَاللّٰہُ یَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَہُمۡ یَوۡمَ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ فِیۡمَا کَانُوۡا فِیۡہِ یَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ﴿۱۱۳﴾
And the Jews say: ‘The Christians do not have their base upon anything (i.e., sound faith),’ and the Christians say: ‘The Jews do not have their base upon anything,’ yet they (all) read the Book (revealed by Allah). Likewise, they (the polytheists) who do not have any (heavenly) knowledge (at all) also make statements like theirs. So Allah will (Himself) judge between them on the Day of Resurrection in the matter in which they differ.
For ypur lies:
[10:69] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
There is (but a few days’) enjoyment in this world. Then they are to return to Us. We shall then afflict them with a severe torment as recompense for their disbelief.

Your prophet was commanded to learn from the trinitarians , talk less of you :

Allah SWT said:
"So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)

There are some revelation from your books that you need to know which might help you to have a rethink :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed.

Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 67
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 67
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 67
Abu Dawood

mhmsadyq:
Like i said before, i am not here to argue or compare religions.

You want a debate. I can't debate cos its useless.

Your mind is made up to be a Trinitarian, full of doubts. Unfortunate!

[2:171] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"وَ مَثَلُ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا کَمَثَلِ الَّذِیۡ یَنۡعِقُ بِمَا لَا یَسۡمَعُ اِلَّا دُعَآءً وَّ نِدَآءً ؕ صُمٌّۢ بُکۡمٌ عُمۡیٌ فَہُمۡ لَا یَعۡقِلُوۡنَ ﴿۱۷۱﴾

The example of inviting these disbelievers (to guidance) is like that of a person who calls out to such (an animal) as hears nothing except a shout or cry. Deaf, dumb and blind, they have no sense.


Islam is sufficient for me, without a doubt.

[3:85] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"وَ مَنۡ یَّبۡتَغِ غَیۡرَ الۡاِسۡلَامِ دِیۡنًا فَلَنۡ یُّقۡبَلَ مِنۡہُ ۚ وَ ہُوَ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ مِنَ الۡخٰسِرِیۡنَ ﴿۸۵﴾

And whoever seeks a din (religion) other than Islam that shall not at all be accepted from him, and he will be amongst the losers in the Hereafter.

I can only teach you Islam, when you are ready.

Islam has come to eliminate every other false worship of Allah in disguise and Christianity is a false belief in God.

[9:30] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة

And the Jews said: ‘‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allah,’ and the Christians said: ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’ These are their (absurd) utterances that they voice with their mouths. They (acquire) resemblance with the saying of those who have disbelieved before (them). May Allah ruin them! Where are they wandering distracted?

[9:31] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"اِتَّ
They took their priests and monks for lords besides Allah and (also) the Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), whilst in truth they had not been given (any) command except to worship (only) the One God besides Whom there is no God. Holy is He, far above those that they associate with Him as partners.

Meanwhile you can continue with your misinformation of the words of Allah and his Prophet behind the keyboard.

Who is misinformed?
You are not misinformed by your Muhammad who wrote those nonsense you quoted up there?

You don't know anything about your religion and at the same time you don't want to learn.

Show me where the Jews said Ezra is the Son of God ?

One of the major things that take majority of people to hell is , to know the truth when it is too late.

If you love yourself investigate and ask questions regarding this your religion. I am telling you that Muhammad did not serve the God that created you and I , neither is Allah the God Almighty.

Go back and think on the questions I asked you regarding why Allah is not God Almighty. If you don't , you will end your eternity in HELL.

Even the Quran promised you this:

Allah SWT said:
وَإِنْ مِّنْكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا ۚ كَانَ عَلٰى رَبِّكَ حَتْمًا مَّقْضِيًّا
"And there is none of you except he will come to it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed."
ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوا وَّنَذَرُ الظّٰلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيًّا
"Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 71-72)

If you want to learn , answer those questions I asked in my previous post. They will help you to come to the right conclusion.

Islam is pure idolatry :

Hadith
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
To run along the valley between two green pillars of Safa and Marwa (mountains) was not Sunna, but the people in the pre-islamic period of ignorance used to run along it, and used to say: "We do not cross this rain stream except running strongly. "
Sahih al-Bukhari 3847
In-book : Book 63, Hadith 73
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 186  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Why doing the rituals of the idol worshipers and claiming to be for the religion of Abraham ?

The stories of the Bible were copied into the Quran and twisted . But the mode of worship of Islam is that of the pagans .
There is no single mode of worship of Islam that corresponds with the Jews and the Christians. Why ?

mhmsadyq:
I am not here to argue or compare religions.

I have no need for that cos Islam is sufficient for me, without a doubt.

It is you Christians that are INSECURE in your Christianity that go about condemning, ridiculing, misinforming, and outright lies about, Islam and Muslims as if that can secure your erroneous belief in a CRUCIFIED God.
You have so far shown that you understand Islam more than the Muslims, so why ask questions you already have answers to?
Mischief! I know.
I will only answer question 3.
Muslims don't worship the objects Christians worship as God.
Islam is a Monotheistic religion, while Christianity is polytheistic.
But, there is only one supreme God, irrespective of what you claim to worship as God.
Allah SWT is that God.
[1:2] Al-Fātiḥa-الْفَاتِحَة
All praise be to Allah alone, the Sustainer of all the worlds,
(O Allah!) You alone do we worship and to You alone do we look for help.

Your Muhammad was the real cause of the problems the Muslims are passing through right now . He commanded them to kill and hate the Christians and Jews.
What do you expect us to do ? Fold our hands and let you muslims kill us and convert our children to Muslims ?
Is that a religion of peace or violence? We have to condemn evil deeds .

2) To be a monotheist does not mean you are worshiping the true God . There are uncountable monotheistic religions in thus world worshipping Satan.
The mere saying ''one God , one God '' , does not mean you are not worshiping the devil .

James 2:19 KJV
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Before Islam and Quran , Christians knew and believed in one God :
Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord :

Ephesians 4:6 KJV
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

In Nigeria , we have 3 president but it will be wrong to say we are ruled by 3 Presidents . Since they are working together and under one president , it is one President.
If the earthly kingdom is in this wise , why can't you Muslims understand that Jesus is God and working for God his Father and under the authority and command of the God the Father ?

From your Quran , Jesus Christ did what only God can do. Which is by creating a living bird from the mud. Why did Allah not give Muhammad or other prophets in the Bible such power?

3) If we are not worshiping the same God , why did Muhammad and Allah claimed that it was Allah that did those miracles in the Bible?

What was the name of God of the Bible?
Was He called Allah ,?
Was Allah the name of your god or it means '' god''?
Why can't Allah get people to follow and worship him through supernatural power ?
Why carrying out idolatry practices of the pre Islamic era ?
Why facing the kabah to worship a heavenly God? In the wall of this kabah is the black Stone
of the idol worshippers planted .Why ?

Hadith
Narrated Salim that his father said:
I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf).
Sahih al-Bukhari 1603
In-book : Book 25, Hadith 89
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 673  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Is the black stone not god in this religion ?

Hadith
Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) .........
Sahih al-Bukhari 4376, 4377
In-book : Book 64, Hadith 401
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 661  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

IS THIS MONOTHEISM ?

compton11:
yes and?
so u except Salim to put mouth there ?
No,the story of the hadith has been narrated by scholars.
Though some scholars say this hadith is fabricated.
no u aint right on This.
Many wet mothers that used to breastfeed peoples babies for salary are not nursing babies
are u animal?
what was abandoned And abolish?
heheheehe go and read the history of the reason why uthman ordered quran to be burned.
And pls u will have to show me error in Al Quran.
and where is the evidence of that?
hmmmmm so how can u relied on book that their versions ain't the same?
even till now,recitation of Yoruba is different from that of Hausa people.
This has nothing to do with error bro!
u mean translation to English?
Because they want to preserve it in only Quraysh dialect and not other different dialect.
If persia or Iran or any other race have their own Quran,there would be confusions just like bible today.
QURAN was revealed in Quraysh dialect and it is the official Arabic in whole world even some part of Arabs dont understand it.
but your own beliefs is based on Jesus death and how is that make sense?
Mumu u are
Allah set two part,it is either u chose the wrong or the good way.
So if u steal today,are u going to say God commanded u to steal after God said don't steal?
and what do u want to pull out from the hadith?

Muhammad's command was for Salim to SUCKLE .Suckling has to do with mouth.
Do women who are not pregnant or who are not nursing babies lactate in the time of Muhammad? Stop deceiving yourself.
Why asking what was abandoned or abolished?
Are Muslims practicing it ? Where is the Surah for it ? Sheep ate it , no be so ? Taqiyyah as usual.

Examples of errors and discrepancies in the Qur'an are :
Allah SWT said:
"But the answer of his people was only that they said, Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 82)
OR
Allah SWT said:
"Indeed, you approach men and obstruct the road and commit in your meetings [every] evil. And the answer of his people was not but they said, Bring us the punishment of Allah, if you should be of the truthful."
(QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 29)
THE ABOVE IS ABOUT LOT

Who was the first Muslim ?
Wss it Muhammad , Moses, Egyptians , Abraham or Adam ?

Does the Sun set in a particular spot?
The Quran says ''yes' .
Allah SWT said:
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."
(QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 86)

What about Surah 51:49 ?

Allah SWT said:
"And of all things We created two mates; perhaps you will remember."
(QS. Adh-Dhaariyat 51: Verse 49)

Are there two moon , two sun, two earth , two pairs of trees . Are there male and female earthworms ?

Was Mary the sister of Aaron ?

Allah SWT said:
"O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28).

Lastly , what is it you don't understand about the hadith below :
Hadith
A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said:
Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.
Sahih Muslim 2662 c
In-book : Book 46, Hadith 47
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6436  

Which part was set for this baby to choose ? As you claimed? Has the baby chosen any part to warrant him or her going to hell .
Can you now see that you are the Mumu original.

Jesus death on the cross makes 100% physical and spiritual sense., because it is the truth.

No creditor would accept a bankrupt man as guarantor for the settling of another person's debt since he could not clear his own debt
It is only the death of Jesus that can redeem man from death to life. Adam brought the curse of death upon himself which every man born by a woman , through the sperm of a man, has inherited.
That curse went into the blood of Adam and only uncursed blood can redeem man from it.

mhmsadyq:
You are the one being deceived. Allah is the Supreme being, beside which there is no other God.
This is Allah:
[2:255] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsisting, the One Who sustains and protects (the entire universe with His strategy). He is seized by neither slumber nor sleep. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth belongs to Him alone. Who can dare intercede with Him except by His permission? (He) knows all that is (happening or has happened) before the Creation, and all that is (about to happen) after them; and they cannot encompass anything of His knowledge except that which He wills. His Throne (of Empire and Power and Authority) encompasses the heavens and the earth, and the protection of both (the earth and the heavens) does not pose Him any difficulty. And He alone is Most High, Most Great.

I have some questions for you .

1) Why was the father of Muhammad , who was an idol worshipper , named Abdul Allah ?

2)Why did Allah swear by the fig tree and angels?

3) Do you think Christians and Muslims worship the same God ?

criuze:
Rich northern alahajis that's been scooping the southern wealth from the first year of Adam, how many lives has they changed with such a massive wealth

you should also check the giving statistics of rich Arab nation's to poorer Muslim nations especially in Africa, even the super rich Saudi Arabia

las las , Jesus fed five 5000 men, how many Mohammed fed

Pure truth.

ackifemmy:
1. During fasting Muslims gives provision unlike Christians.
2. Christians give with protocol while Muslims give with no boundaries.
3. Muslims have a no interest loan unlike Christians.
4. Muslim private school are less expensive than Christians from nursery primary secondary and university .
5. Muslims are better employers than Christians.
6. During fasting Muslims ease workload with full payment while Christians don't care.
7. Prove me wrong by crediting my account with Christian or Muslim as description 6610970015 Taiwo Akinfemi M FCMB.
Note.. I'M A CHRISTIAN
Use Google or private survey to prove me wrong and pls argue with your key board...

Giving without love is nothing :

1 Corinthians 13:3 KJV
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Boko Haram members give also but can take life without the fear of God.

Muhammad who told them to do these things had no love :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.

Da'if (Al-Albani)

Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

mhmsadyq:
Islam is coming for you!

[3:85] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"وَ مَنۡ یَّبۡتَغِ غَیۡرَ الۡاِسۡلَامِ دِیۡنًا فَلَنۡ یُّقۡبَلَ مِنۡہُ ۚ وَ ہُوَ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ مِنَ الۡخٰسِرِیۡنَ ﴿۸۵﴾
And whoever seeks a din (religion) other than Islam that shall not at all be accepted from him, and he will be amongst the losers in the Hereafter.
[9:32] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ اَنۡ یُّطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ یَاۡبَی اللّٰہُ اِلَّاۤ اَنۡ یُّتِمَّ نُوۡرَہٗ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۳۲﴾
They desire to extinguish the Light of Allah by blowing through their mouths. And Allah rejects (it) but (wills) to manifest His Light to its fullness, even though the disbelievers dislike (it).

Which light ?

Allah is not the God your Creator , don't be deceived . Allah is an idol and not God .

When Islam comes against me in one way , it shall flee in seven ways .

mhmsadyq:
May a bulldozer of sense crush you!

Say amen.

That is not a prayer but a curse . I refuse to say Amen .

This is my portion :

Psalm 109:27-28 KJV
That they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, Lord, hast done it. [28] Let them curse, but bless thou me: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice.

Everything about this cult is by force.
This was how Islam started :

Hadith
Abu Huraira reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) found some people absenting from certain prayers and he said: I intend that I order (a) person to lead people in prayer, and then go to the persons who do not join the (congregational prayer) and then order their houses to be burnt by the bundles of fuel. If one amongst them were to know that he would find a fat fleshy bone he would attend the night prayer.
Sahih Muslim 651 a
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 317
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1369  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

OkCornel:
Enilove, are you seeing how Compton keeps arguing for nothing on this thread when it’s clear the issue here is his level of understanding? Or perhaps just being stubborn since his ego is on the line here

My brother , you can't blame them o. They had been brainwashed since their childhood with falsehood.

Also , they are possessed with the spirit of Islam which is the devil. It takes the grace of God for any Muslim to see , know and understand what Islam stands for. Islam is the spirit of Antichrist.

Truly speaking , it might even be easier to get delivered from this satanic religion if that person in question is seeking the truth.
Unfortunately , they are not after the truth because they felt they know the truth.

Pls , don't see your efforts as relating to him only.
I have watched a video where someone said she was confused and started checking evidences and came about series of argument between the Christians and the muslins and had to come to the conclusion that Christians have better proofs and foundation than Islam. That was how she got converted.

These posts are not meant only for him but anyone who needs to know what is what.
Don't be tired . Do your best for Christ is worthy.
I was once a Muslim too.

God bless you , in Jesus' name.

compton11:
because the answer to the hadith has story about and it is long but let me brief it.

First of all,in Sharia of Islam,if a woman breast feed an adopted son or non adopted son,it would be unlawful for the child to marry that woman in future,it is haram because it is like that child marry his biological mother.

many countless thing.

It is monotheistic
It is the religion that talked about the importance of parents,relations and poor and so on.
It is religion that put all prophets in good place unlike Bible that said bad things about them.
Religion that tell us to live life,how to business and how to get marry and so on.
It is religion that tell us to abstain from anything that will makes it consumption harmful and so on.

then read the brief story about the hadith cos the story is long.

1) The issue of adults breast feeding cannot be from God for many reasons :
A) It did not say , '' give him breast milk' , it says suckle him .
B) Breast milk does not come out of the breast of women who are not nursing babies. So , where would they get the milk from ?
C) People are known to drink animal milk , does that make them to become relatives to the animals ?
D) Why was it abandoned and abolished?

2) The errors in the Bible can not be compared with that of the Qur'an which was so glaring that made Uthman to order them burnt .
The first set of Qur'an was full of blunders and errors to the extent that the followers had to agree to burn them and get only one copy.

It is when you want to destroy an evidence that you will burn it . Some of the scriptures of the Bible had been preserved for over 1200 years before Quran and was never at any time agreed that they must be destroyed so ad to hide the truth.
Even during the time of Muhammad , there had been differences in their recitation .
Presently, there are more than 30 different Qur'an world wide.

Hadith
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4987
In-book : Book 66, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 510  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

3) All the reasons you gave for believing in Islam do not make sense because , no matter how you practice it and do the right things , it is what Allah has written about you that will determine your eternal destination :

Hadith
A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said:

Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.
Sahih Muslim 2662 c
In-book : Book 46, Hadith 47
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6436  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

Muhammad had a dream that Umar will be a prophet like him :

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ عُفَيْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي اللَّيْثُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي عُقَيْلٌ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ حَمْزَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عُمَرَ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏‏ بَيْنَا أَنَا نَائِمٌ أُتِيتُ بِقَدَحِ لَبَنٍ، فَشَرِبْتُ حَتَّى إِنِّي لأَرَى الرِّيَّ يَخْرُجُ فِي أَظْفَارِي، ثُمَّ أَعْطَيْتُ فَضْلِي عُمَرَ بْنَ الْخَطَّابِ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالُوا فَمَا أَوَّلْتَهُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ قَالَ ‏"‏ الْعِلْمَ ‏"‏‏.‏"
Narrated Ibn `Umar:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "While I was sleeping, I saw that a cup full of milk was brought to me and I drank my fill till I noticed (the milk) its wetness coming out of my nails. Then I gave the remaining milk to `Umar Ibn Al-Khattab" The companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) asked, "What have you interpreted (about this dream)? "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ,!" he replied, "(It is religious) knowledge."

Sahih al-Bukhari 82
In-book : Book 3, Hadith 24
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 3, Hadith 82  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

ItsReal:
Always changing the goal post at the slightest chance.

Not surprising though, it is in the blood.

Anyway, after this I won't continue to exchange words with you because I looked at your profiles and I saw that the 3 of you are actively into this.

People would waste their time on you and you will still remain the same.

Unfortunately, I don't have much time on my hands

Let me give you the following:

1. Saint Augustine (350AD) married a 10 year old girl!.

2. King Richard 11 (1400AD) married a 7yr old girl.

3.King Henry VIII (1500AD) he married a 5yr old girl.

Even in the BIBLE it says:

....But save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man (Numbers 31. 17:28).

According to the Catholic encyclopedia,

mary the mother of jesus was 12 when she married the 99 years old Joseph!!! "This was based on their thought"

Before 1929, Church of England ministers could marry 12yrs old girls in Britain.

Up till 1983, Catholic Canon laws permitted priests to marry off brides at the age of 12.

In the United States, back in 1880, in the state of Delaware, the minimum age for marriage was 7yrs and in California it was 10!!!


Infact, instance that supports this are so many in your known and unknown-authored bible but you choose to deny it.


The white man suddenly made the marriage age 18 and you shift your position accordingly. How about countries where the consent age is 15, 16, 17 or even 21. Will you still bend the scripture to allow for the discrepancies.

Are you clarified now?

Those still doubtful, Go back to your village and ask your grandmother how old she was when she got married!

Trust me, you won't get that wrong

Bye, never to reply your post again.

Death is fast approaching.

But you still have some time with you now, use it.
Repent to God and worship him.

Stay away from worshipping a human like you.

God has no family members, no partner, no son , no baby mama.

Just him.

The supreme being.

No go talk say you were not warned o.

Stop calling evil good. It is evil for a 53 year old to marry a 9 year old. Muhammad had no moral. What can you say to the case of Muhammad marrying his son's wife ?

Secondly , there is nothing pure , good , holy or Godly about Islam. Islam is pure idolatry.

You worship facing kabah and bow to the black stone implanted in the wall of the kabah .
The ancestors of Muhammad were stone worshipper which was why he had to kiss the black stone :

Hadith
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:
"`Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (ﷺ) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' `Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet (ﷺ) did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'
Sahih al-Bukhari 1605
In-book : Book 25, Hadith 91
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 675  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Hadith
Hisham b. 'Urwa reported on the authority of his father who narrated from 'A'isha. He said to 'A'isha:

I think if a person does not run between al- Safa' and al-Marwa, It does not do any harm to him (so far as Hajj is concerned). She said: Why (do you think so)? I said: For Allah says:" Verily al-Safa' and al-Marwa are among the Signs of Allah" (2:158) (to the end of the verse), whereupon she said: Allah does not complete the Hajj of a person or his Umra if he does not observe Sa'i between al-Safa' and al-marwa; and if it were so as you state, then (the wording would have been (fala janah an la yatufu biha) [" There is no harm for him if he does not circumambulate between them']. Do you know in what context (this verse was revealed)? (It was revealed in this context) that the Ansar in the Days of Ignorance pronounced the Talbiya for two idols. (fixedl on the bank of the river which were called Isaf and Na'ila. The people went there, and then circumambulated between al-Safa' and al-Marwa and then got their heads shaved. With the advent of Islam they (the Muslims) did not like to circumambulate between them as they used to do during the Days of Ignorance. It was on account of this that Allah. the Exalted and Majestic, revealed:" Verily al-Safe and al-Marwa are among the Signs of Allah" to the end of the verse. She said: Then people began to observe Sa'i.
Sahih Muslim 1277 a
In-book : Book 15, Hadith 285
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 7, Hadith 2923  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

You can judge for yourself which of the two religions is worshiping the devil.

ItsReal:
I am still waiting for you o

Maybe you didn't understand the previous sentence construction.

Lemme rephrase it


You should be worried that Mary the mother of your god Jesus was married off at the age of 12 to a 90 years old carpenter or better still your worry should be channelled to the age at which the mother of your god Jesus was impregnated by your god Jesus and gave birth to himself ( your god Jesus) who is an indivisible part of the trinity.

Can you tell me the age at which the mother of your god Jesus was impregnated by your god Jesus and gave birth to himself ( jesus) ?

Islam has taught you nothing but lies

The op provided proves from your Islamic books.
Why can you provide proofs from the Bible as well ?

compton11:
no problem

No.
The reason for this hadith is in the link I posted and the kind of breast isn't the one u will put your mouth too.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1

In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


What happened there Mr man?

Which one is link. Can't you give answer from your head ?

Why can't you allow your wife to do it ?
I knew you can't practice such nonsense .

That is why it does not make sense to follow the dictates of a man.
This kind of suggestion , if practised , will take an innocent soul to hell .

How can you ascertain that the whole Quran and Islam itself are not man made ?

ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION .

As far as the Bible is concerned , anyone that add to or removed from the word of God shall have face the God's judgement.

Revelation 22:18-19 KJV
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Lastly , this is surely a man made error and not that of God.

Another of my question is this .

What are the things that make you to believe in Islam ?

Pls , don't give me any link . Is it a means of escape from the truth .

compton11:
only blind will say there is no problem,explain it to me

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1

JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

U see clearly that those three same verses and u said there is no problem

U must explain it ooooo

Oya explain it to me then.

nigga bible?

The one that is filled with letters of Paul to Thessalonian people Galatians, Corinthians, Romans,Philemon, Thessalonians.

Is that what u tried to call a Scripture?

so injeel and Torah is now Bible,abi?

So which one is Torah and injeel

66 books of Catholic
Or
73 books of Protestant?

nah nigga,he accepted after the ayat about it came.
Stop bringing what u have already been answered again.
We see evidence for hijab.

Where is your evidence for going to Church on Sunday?

Evidence of doing Christmas and Easter?

so what is bad in that?

Clapping and dancing in church,is it Yahweh that permitted and agreed to it?

how is it ridiculous and absurd?

where did they tell God ?
u mean the one that can't forgive people unless they sacrifice a whole human being?

the explanation for this hadith is here

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://daruliftaa.com/sacred-knowledge/clarification-of-hadith-about-the-suckling-of-a-grown-man/&ved=2ahUKEwjzn-fVyv3vAhWhqHEKHYrLC3IQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0CwKfwMm15f3nYb_bi0JGc&cshid=1618398406409

practise what?

what was cancelled?

Answer my questions b4 asking me any question .

Can you allow your wife to practice adult breast feeding?

When you have answered me , post your question and I will also answer you.

One question at a time.

DannyG8:
it may sound funny but am serious I shaved the hair on my private part yesterday and I put it in a Lylium thinking when I finish taking my bath I will dispose it so I forget to dispose it when I remember this morning to go and take it I can't found it anymore am kind of bounder if someone might have taken it or the other way around maybe it might have fell off I just don't know what to think please

Kneel down and pray to God .
Tell God that any evil that the hair will be used for should not prosper.

Soak it in the blood of Jesus.

Pray as the Spirit of God leads you.

mhmsadyq:
Ok.

At least you have a reason to love a Sahaba.

I only love Umar ( sahabi )

compton11:
evidence of where Yahweh instructed u to be Christians.
hads,mumu so signs and wonders is what u respect like that?
even babalawos are doing it.
what a story!

How many hospital have u visit to cure the sickness?
How many corona victims have u cure?

where did Jesus said plus
how can Jesus that is God doesn't know the last hour?
And Jesus said
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent-john 17:3
and Torah is Bible,right?
Valid Hun?

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1
In The same verse
King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1
This version even omitted the ag
JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.
What happened there Mr man?
u haven't answer my question
Can u give carcass to foreigner as says by Bible?
Don't Dodge it.
who said that?
Solomon not Yahweh
The same Solomon said this
Psalm 137:9

Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
And where were u commanded to be closing eyes.
Doing Christmas
And going to Church on Sunday?
back to the issue of clapping and singing.
suggest wetin?
The thing they have been using before UMAR was even born.
stop fooling yourself here boy
where is that written In The hadith?
so his companions can't advise again?

The hadith is an indication that 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab was succesful in reaching these conclusions not through a direct revelation from Allah, but through strong knowledge of the religion and its principles.
He was companion of The prophet(saw) and there are so many things we are doing in islam that it is the companions that introduced and Allah and his messanger agree it.

ARE YOU GOING TO DENY THAT MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH AGREED WITH UMAR ( The last prophet ) REGARDING THE ABOVE ?

and u goin to going to deny that judasi is in heaven?
Mother of Moses and jesus that received revelations from God,they must be women prophet,right?

There is no problem in the book of Samuel you quoted . The sane with the book of psalm . Your problem is lack of understanding .

You can't know more than your Allah and Muhammad who gave their consent to the Bible as perfect , do you ?

Allah SWT said:
"Say, O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 68)

ABOUT THE HIJAB .

Umar had been telling Muhammad to tell his wives to be covering themselves but Muhammad rejected . He was forced to accept it when UMAR started making fun of Sauda , the wife of Muhammad , that Muhammad agreed. Is that a revelation or googlelation ?

Thank God you agreed that there are many things you Muslims do which were not from Allah but from man which Allah later agreed to .I too agree to this .This is very ridiculous and absurd. How can imperfect man be telling God the right things to do . Is that a true God ?
For example , the Issue of ADULT BREAST FEEDING :

Hadith
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported:

I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (ﷺ, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa.

Sahih Muslim 1453 e
In-book : Book 17, Hadith 37
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3428  (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim

Can you allow your wife to practice this ?

And why was it cancelled

mhmsadyq:
Kafirs like you have always said so behind the keyboards.

Unfortunately for you, it has not halt Islam!

It is unfortunate that this very Islam will halt you from going to heaven , unless you abandon it and accept Jesus Christ as your saviour.

mhmsadyq:
Good you love Umar.

I love him for exposing the lie of Muhammad.

UMAR PREVENTED THE PROPHET OF ALLAH FROM GIVING THE MUSLIMS A REVELATION FROM ALLAH TO PREVENT THEM FROM GOING ASTRAY :

Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي يُونُسُ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالَ لَمَّا اشْتَدَّ بِالنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَجَعُهُ قَالَ ‏‏ ائْتُونِي بِكِتَابٍ أَكْتُبُ لَكُمْ كِتَابًا لاَ تَضِلُّوا بَعْدَهُ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ عُمَرُ إِنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم غَلَبَهُ الْوَجَعُ وَعِنْدَنَا كِتَابُ اللَّهِ حَسْبُنَا فَاخْتَلَفُوا وَكَثُرَ اللَّغَطُ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ قُومُوا عَنِّي، وَلاَ يَنْبَغِي عِنْدِي التَّنَازُعُ ‏"‏‏.‏ فَخَرَجَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ يَقُولُ إِنَّ الرَّزِيَّةَ كُلَّ الرَّزِيَّةِ مَا حَالَ بَيْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَبَيْنَ كِتَابِهِ‏.‏"
Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah:
Ibn `Abbas said, "When the ailment of the Prophet (ﷺ) became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.' But `Umar said, 'The Prophet is seriously ill, and we have got Allah's Book with us and that is sufficient for us.' But the companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) differed about this and there was a hue and cry. On that the Prophet (ﷺ) said to them, 'Go away (and leave me alone). It is not right that you should quarrel in front of me." Ibn `Abbas came out saying, "It was most unfortunate (a great disaster) that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise. (Note: It is apparent from this Hadith that Ibn `Abbas had witnessed the event and came out saying this statement. The truth is not so, for Ibn `Abbas used to say this statement on narrating the Hadith and he had not witnessed the event personally. See Fath Al-Bari Vol. 1, p.220 footnote.) (See Hadith No. 228, Vol. 4).

Sahih al-Bukhari 114
In-book : Book 3, Hadith 56
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 3, Hadith 114  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

UP UMAR ! HE PREVAILED AGAINST MUHAMMAD.
Is like this Umar did not trust the revelations of Muhammad any longer , since he too was getting revelations from Allah .

sagenaija:
This is a question most Moslems run away from. They KNOW that there are other persons, after Mohamed's supposed call by Allah, who were involved in the EVOLUTION of Islam. But they they can't claim that they were inspired by Allah since they hold Mohamed as the last prophet. This is one of the numerous dilemmas in Islam; a conundrum ignored by Moslems because its acceptance will render the religion inept.

Well said.

Some of them have realized the lies embedded in this Islam and are leaving it.

I have learnt a lot from your threads and knowledge of Islam.

Don't be tired , continue to do your best to enlightened the truth seekers among them.

God bless you.