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SouthSouth1914:
Big mouth running like tap water. We are still waiting for the his pictures. Maybe you can help him out?

I see you have exhausted all your tactics Mr. "You cannot travel to the Americas and snap photos the same day". You have no other way of wriggling out of you mess, so you'd now change the goal post to OP's pictures; oldest trick in the book of dumb Nairalanders. I wasn't expecting you to acknowledge your goof, that takes a level of intelligence you don't possess. Nevertheless, I'm glad you learned something new.

Lol.... that's funny coming from him.

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Fujiyama:
^^^
The word 'probably' means 'likely'. It was your use of the word 'probably' that gave an entirely different meaning to your comments. Until audio or video evidence of the lecture and slides are made available, none of us here can really say exactly how Prof Lopez presented the information.

The information in the news write up indicates though that she understood the sensitivity of the issue. It seems she made clear to her students that her lecture wanted to examine the paintings and depictions of Mohammed from ancient times - paintings and depictions that actually do exist.

I said "probably" because the school refused to extend her contract, and US schools aren't known to let religious inclinations come in the way of education. So if they went out of thier way to do it, then it's likely she presented it in a certain way. This is hypothetical and it's regardless whatever was reported by Sahara. We've all been alive long enough to know that the media will always report in way that elicit whatever emotional response they want from thier audience. After all, they said the teacher was sacked when it was her contract that wasn't extended. I'm not supporting anyone, I'm just saying the things that could have happened.

Fujiyama:
^^
Succintly put. Which makes your comments below all the more confusing.



^^^
From the information in the public domain at least - you have nothing to support your assertions above. How can you (correctly) state that its all a matter of how the teacher presented it - and then claim she "probably" presented the information in a certain way? You don't have the facts. Have you seen the presentation or the lecture slides?

I don't have the facts, isn't that what the word "probably" is supposed to indicate?

jeromestarks:
I visited plateau state this morning and my babe said we should eat at a local eatery after hunger hit both of us.

This babe don't like wasting money. so she entered this local eatery and ordered for her food.

I ordered for a plate of rice and moi moi.
I was expecting the waiter to mention 1500 but to my surprise, she said "a plate of rice with goat meat and moimoi is 450"


The moi moi alone is 100 naira.

That's about $15 out here.

SouthSouth1914:
Haha.. the embarrassment is on you. You’ll get old waiting for pics. Mumu “The ignorance of the ignorant is on the ignorant”. Haha

What you said has nothing to do with pics. Don't even try to cover up cause you've been failing at it from the onset. You said "you cannot travel to Europe or the Americas and snap pictures the same day". Whether the OP is in his village or not, your statement is wrong and ridiculous because I'm chatting from the so called Americas and I took pictures as soon as I got to the airport. You're fooling anyone with all these failed attempts to tactfully take back the statement or switch the discussion into something else. You goofed, accept it and move on.

SouthSouth1914:
My dear, not trying to to sound to intelligent or anything. I can tell you, we are not mates in anything. Read it again.

Oga, go and sit down. You've embarrassed yourself enough already.

Roseodd:
I don't know why you are arguing with someone that doesn't even have passport!

Lol... I don't even care if you're going to Cameroon or Ghana, it was just the way he boldly made thar statement that caught my attention. I personally have a habit of always taking a few pictures at the airport anytime I travel to show my family I have safely arrived. This is regardless of where I'm going. The SouthSouth1914 guy overestimated the distance, and when he noticed, he even messed up more with the "tired and jet lag" stuff. He probably read about these things online. Lol

SouthSouth1914:
Mumu..!! I didn’t say it wasn’t possible. It all depends on the distance to where he is going! Stop thinking with your anus!

Haha... You're making frantic efforts to bounce back from that bleeped-up statement, and it's very funny and entertaining to read. First you said it wasn't possible, then later to you exempted ONLY the UK (as if that's the only country in western Europe) and now, it depends on the distance; all just to find a way to clean up your mess. I think you overestimate your own smartness cause everyone can see through these things.

You said "You CAN NOT do a flight to Europe or the Americas and snap photos same day", and now you are saying "I didn't say it wasn't possible"? Lol... just see how you're embarrassing yourself. Every effort you make to salvage the situation makes you look even dumber. You said something very foolish, own it and stop running around like a headless chicken. Or you think this forum is full of kids?

You went online to check the distance from Nigeria to the UK, and when you saw it's not as much you thought, you quickly exempted the region from your "impossible-to-snap" list? So the extra one hour or thereabouts it would take to get to France would take away all his strength and make it impossible for him to snap at the airport there. Lmao... Nairaland people.

SouthSouth1914:
Your brain thinking capacity is pretty low. Unless he is going to the U.K which takes approximately 6hrs30 Mins. Once he arrives, won’t he rest? Jet lag? Assuming he leaves Nigeria in the morning which is under probability.

I didn’t say that because I wanted to sound smart. But you, you are just an adult with a kid’s brain!

Oga, you have never left your state. That's very obvious. Because he traveled, they'd need an ambulance to take from the airport to his residence since he can't raise his hand to snap a picture? Opounu, kee embarrassing your village people on the internet.

See what a grown up man is typing. Focusing on the buttocks and making a mountain out of it is kinda childish and cringy. In a bid to sound fierce, the guy ends up sounding childish sometimes. Just see how he has reduced the whole thing to a primary school pupils' banter. It's obvious they just say anything to earn thier pay/spot.

grandstar:
Is she mad? Doesn't she not know it's taboo?

There's a difference between free speech and stupidity infused with insensitivity.

I am not a muslim but one won't die appreciating the sensitivity of Muslims. No one even knows what he looked like so a painting of his makes no sense.

I don't think presenting "non conforming" scholarly artifacts is tantamount to being stupid. I believe it depends on the origin of the painting and how she presented it. She's in the academia, so if there's a renowned painting in a reputable museum that a certain school of thought believe to be that of the prophet, it's the duty of a scholar to study it, document it and keep the record as "a painting claimed to be that of the prophet". This is regardless of whether she actually believes it herself or not. In some fields, you don't just teach your personal believes but other people's arguments too. After all, many religious people have been made to argue for and against the existence of God in philosophy classes. Our Christian teachers were forced to teach us Charles Darwin's theory of evolution even though they didn't believe it.

It's all a matter how the teacher presented it. If the school had problems with her, it's probably cause she categorically stated and probably insisted that was his real picture. Anyway, she wasn't sacked as reported by the OP. Her contract wasn't terminated. The school just refused to extend her contract (contract workers have thier contracts renewed after a period of 6 to 12 months if the employer still needs them). This will not reflect as a sack on her career profile, so she could easily get another job.

PrinceOfLagos:
Dem wan carry there extremism to America

Before you know it, they will start throwing bombs

Dude, she isn't even a Muslim. It was a Muslim student that reported her cause it's against thier belief.

Lol... it's funny when you check the profile of those calling it a dirty show and see that their favorite section is the romance section. Nigeria is the world capital of hypocrisy. Someone who doesn't watch BB somehow feels he's morally superior to those that do despite having pornhub as his favorite site. Lol.

Guys, if you don't like it, don't watch it. It's not that hard. Worldcup, EPL, etc. didn't distract people from the election, but once it's something you don't watch, then it must be fought against? The problem with you guys is that you don’t know how to live and let live. If a tribe or a religion or even a gender isn't yours, you must feel the need to fight it. If you don't watch a particular show or professional wrestling or Z-World, you must feel the need to attack those that do. You guys don't just know to how to coexist and that's your doom in Africa.

rickpat:
she truly misses him...but it's wrong for her to continue to keep in touch... honestly,they are vaccums only the deepest friendship can fill and marriage can never fill such vaccum...

confront your wife and let her discontinue the communication with the dude...

LIFE IS FUNNY, SOMETIMES WE DON'T MARRY THE PERSON THAT WE TRULY MISS...

talk to your wife buddy.. good luck

It's not proper for her to keep in touch with an old school mate because she got married? Who should she stay in touch with, just her husband? And then tomorrow, he'll complain that women have too much uninteresting stories that men are forced to listen to? You guys should manage your expectations of women.

Mryacks:
She kinda milking the whole ish too...enough abeg

So she should stop taking pictures with her kids or stop posting on her own Instagram account because she got married to an idiot?

SouthSouth1914:
Your brain thinking capacity is pretty low. Unless he is going to the U.K which takes approximately 6hrs30 Mins. Once he arrives, won’t he rest? Jet lag? Assuming he leaves Nigeria in the morning which is under probability.

I didn’t say that because I wanted to sound smart. But you, you are just an adult with a kid’s brain!

Dude, you couldn't have sounded smart even if you tried cause you're saying absolutely rubbish, and you know it. How can you say you can’t do a flight to Europe or the Americas and snap photos same day, and your reason is "you will be tired"? Are you alright at all? Some of you guys are just too dumb on this platform, I wonder how you function in your daily lives without glitching. You don't see bloggers doing videos of thier relocation experience once they arrive at the airport? You don't picture of japa people everyday on Twitter taken as soon as they arrive? How tired can you be that you can't click on the camera icon on your phone? Are you dying?

Oga, you made that statement out of pure ignorance probably because you overestimated the traveling time. Then when you Googled it and realized you flopped, you came back with even a more lamer excuse of "you'll be tired". Anything other than this will only make look even more stupid than you've already presented yourself to be. Imaging saying "South Africa or Kenya at most. You can’t do a flight to Europe or the Americas and snap photos same day." You're not ashamed to type this on a public forum? Dude, you're just loud and dumb, and that's a terrible combination.

People help people they find appealing. If you're a straight man, you'd naturally find women generally appealing. The same goes for a ladies. When a lady loves you, she'd do crazy stuff for you. Isn't that why some people say it's hard to advise a woman in love? The problem isn't that men help women. It's thier money, they can help anyone they want to help. But it's generally good to help your friends when you can regardless of gender. You too work hard to be a helper and not a helpee.

zeuss:
A good defence lawyer can build an entrapment argument. These suspects may have been railroaded into this.

You watched this video and the first thing that came to your mind is how to defend the guy? Some of you guys are so toxic to this planet. It doesn't bother you if someone's 14 year old kid is exploited sexually. You're more interested in building a case for the suspect.

dazzlingd:
Is there any proof he was aware she is 14

He just mentioned her age himself in the video. Please, let's criticize something bad. It's not every time you offer blind support cause race or gender. That girl is someone's daughter/sister.

Mhen... you guys on this app really have no limit.

Lion of Obioma?!
Hehe... What of the lion of Nneka and Nkechi?

SouthSouth1914:
South Africa or Kenya at most. You can’t do a flight to Europe or the Americas and snap photos same day.

Lol.... you guys just say anything on this platform. He can't go to Europe or the Americas and take pictures the same day? So because you buy cheap flight tickets with 4 stop-overs, you think everyone spends days in transit? Nawa o

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I believe that was a mistake.

meobizy:
Aunty is old, out of shape and a baby momma. Only gigolos would look her way. Let her stick to devices run on batteries so she can keep deceiving bitter “feminists.”

Hhmm... How do you just wake up and decide, let me go and be hateful? It's your business if you don't want to get old, but the lady in question has some achievements do show for the number of years she has spent on earth. She has money, fame and a child. When she wants some good bed action, she gets it. What do you have? No fame, not as rich as she is, maybe series of failed relationships or a frustrating marriage, and you're probably also sleeping with hoes. So how exactly are you superior to the person you're criticizing? Nawa o.

It's neither bad nor good. Like someone said, it's a matter of choice.

So who did he expose?

Felixamos:
Okay Sir, I've heard you. I have a number of screenshots in my phone that could prove your comment wrong but then again, I'm tired of the argument so no need posting. which means if a "lion" means weak to my tribe, I can use it in a public gathering cause applying the dictionary meaning outside my tribe isn't very smart... I get your point Sir..

Sorry I overstretched the conversation.. Enjoy the rest of your day.. I'm honestly tired of typing..

Don't forget you said gazelle can never connote pride. And I just explained to you that it can depending on the interpretation of the people. So if your argument is that he used his own people's connotation to address a different crowd, well... that's a good point even though it's debatable. For example, someone might ask, how can you be sure that the crowd he was talking to doesn't share the same connotative meaning if you aren't from the same place as the crowd? But I'm not really interested in that because I am convinced he wasn't making any sense.

jayworld15:
If Tinubu had used only "gazelle", different meanings would have been read to it, but "gazelle garagara" is a different thing entirely. The gazelle (noun modifier) tells more about the whole rather than as a separate i.e. car race, church mortuary etc. In car race, we're not talking about just any race or car as we all know what a car or a race is, but we're talking about a specific one, defined by its nature. The same can be said concerning mortuary or church. There are a thousand churches or mortuary (literarily speaking) but church mortuary is specific in nature, because we're talking about a mortuary which has affiliation with a church. If we add the church's name to it, or subtite church to the its name like St. James or St. Peter Catholic mortuary, Godnews Church mortuary, our specificity changes and so does its meaning. Now the question are:

What is a gazelle?
What is a garagara?

Gazelle: A small, slender antelope that typically has curved horns and a fawn-coloured coat with white underparts, found in open country in Africa and Asia.


Gara gara: Showing off, drawing attention to yourself (according to online definition).

Now, those two definitions are the text. There's anything in communication: context which is divided into context of situation and context of time.

Having said that, juxtaposing Tinubu's statement would mean total nonsense because the context is wrong. Jargons are specific to a particular area or profession. They're not nonsense if an individual belongs to that area. That is contextual meaning of words, sentences, paragraphs or essays. So we have literal meaning and contextual meaning.

So much points were made here. The counter argument of the defender is that gazelle is used to refer to a proud person in thier culture (thus going beyond the dictionary definition of the animal). My first take is to acknowledge the possibility of animals meaning different things in different cultures (which is what I was trying to explain to the OP). I don't know the culture enough to argue with guy, however, there are many other factors that alludes to the fact that Tinubu was just saying rubbish. The word arrangement, the language mix, the implied tautology, etc. all points to the fact that he wasn't making sense.

Felixamos:
There was no where I accused him of talking rubbish.. I said gazelle does not have a dictionary meaning and though "gazelle and gagaraga" might have their separate meanings/definitions, putting them together and trying to make a meaning of it is wrong and dosen't make any sense.. Hence the statement tinubu made has no reasonable meaning because English words were wrongly placed and used.. Just wanted to clarify that.. And you can look it up on the front page for confirmation..

Having said that, thanks for your engagement.. I am so tired of typing in response to this particular topic. So at this juncture I would say; do have a nice day.. And I was glad we had the argument cause I did learn a thing or two..

Lol... I knew you weren't going anywhere. I know your type. Yes, the argument you made above is good. The word combination, the context, the culture, etc all good. The only thing I pointed out is that hammering on dictionary definition when it was obvious the word was used connotatively opened up your argument for attack because in as much as connotative meanings take thier roots from the dictionary definitions, they could be just about anything depending on the perspective of the people. And the person you were arguing with clearly took advantage of that by saying "y'all are not Yorubas".

Felixamos:
I don't think we can ever come to an agreement because my emphasis is based on the "gazelle" noun and how it was wrongly given a meaning not related to any dictionary meaning.. Like I said, it would have been a different thing if the gazelle was spoken in a dialect, used or referenced properly..

And thanks for the correction on the creation of folklore thingy..

Great conversation and if it gives you any joy, "you won the argument".. Can we drop it here please?

Enjoy the rest of your day...

Recall when I said I wasn't inclined to continue the conversation, but you asked me to because "you wanted to learn"? Now you're turning it on its head to imply I continued because I wanted to win. Well, I'm not in any way fazed by those tactics. I know that when you want to stop, you will. And this also applies to me.

So in the meantime, back to the topic. The use of gazelle in the statement was obviously connotative and, therefore, could mean many things based on how the perceive the animal. So you cannot say the meaning is unrelated to the animal if you do not know how the animal is perceived in thar community or group. Again, that he said the word in English isn't really a bad argument because I don't think he'd use a Yoruba affective to qualify an English word (I made this argument in very first post), but this doesn't change the fact that talking about dictionary when discussing what a word depicts to a people isn't a very smart argument.