₦airaland Forum

Tommydare:
You are still naive. You think na everybody dey like that. Sometimes some people are capable but once they got married, things went south. And if things went south are they supposed to divorce their wives and disown their children?
Sometimes we can plan that this is how it's going to be but at the end, it might not be like how it was planned. Na who him cocoa grow, sabi plant. Na spectators sabi play ball pass. Until you marry sha.

Things wouldn't be so bad if it was just a child. But we have people birthing three or more children even when thing are rough. That is the problem. It is easier to take care of a child when the economy is rough than three.

dietsono:
I am very sure that you are still not of age and your level of immaturity is alarmingly extreme.

Mtcheeeeeeew!

Guilty as charged.

So, tell us Mr Matured, how does it sound to have children you cannot take care of?

KingKO22:
Birth control should be considered in this contemporaneous era

Single mothers are not left out as well. Imagine having 10 children for 5 different fathers and you want the father to be responsible for those step children ?

Marriage is not a taboo for a poor man but having too many children when things is not getting better is a sin as God is not against pregnancy control but detest abortion.

Anyway, i think the mentality is changing rapidly

I doubt a Nigerian woman would go to that extent. Let's be realistic with our numbers.

prodigyy:
I know of someone that married because her husband is an errand boy to a politician. Presently they're no longer in power, hunger dun finish her and husband

I know many like that. Hunger really nack them eh. Foolishly, all I knew had at least three children. One had five sef. These men are not educated in the real sense. No work experience or skills to make it outside the world of boy boy. To worsen it, they were still carrying women
up and down. Their saving grace be say they own the houses they reside in.

The stoopid mentality that the moment a man begins to earn small change, he rushes to marry is another issue.

Three and seven years ago, I preached it:

- https://www.nairaland.com/6035550/nigerians-poverty-certain-acts-perpetuate

- https://www.nairaland.com/3450586/poor-un-intelligent-people-should-not

The notion that children are blessings is where the problem comes from. Children are not blessings because they are born, but become blessings when properly taken care of. Having children wouldn't make you rich. In fact, as a man, you lose money having children.

"Giving birth is cheap, raising children is expensive" - Gerrard59, 2016.

Kingray10:
The north is guilty of this the most..

It is prevalent in the south as well. The north has polygamy to blame, what excuse does the south? I think complete data on birth rates across regions and ethnic groups would put this notion that the south has an abnormally low birth rate to rest.

sukkot:
you can't jail a corrupt politician in the west because he would be killed in China first for being corrupt. The reason the west do that to Nigerian leaders is because they know they are all demons and a demon would not lock up another demon for doing demonic activities. You can't get justice in an establishment controlled by demons. They are all friends and eat and steal and laugh together. So the world knows this and so the UK feels it has a bit of moral obligation as the coloniser to lock up these men who will never receive judgement in Nigeria. But like I said, China has very strong institutions and they take care of their corrupt men very effectively. They will give you a sword and tell you to kill yourself if you are caught being corrupt. You have to fall on your own sword or meet a deadlier fate.

But yeah we need very strong institutions in Nigeria. Institutions that are more powerful than men

I am curious: does it mean the developed world no get their own demons? How come they fight theirs, but we cannot fight ours? How come their demons enable their societies prosper and function, but ours no dey gree. Na so our own wicked reach?

sukkot:
that is a very brilliant parallel analogy. Our powerful politicians come to the west and are reduced to nothing talk less of you that is a nobody . You see them in the trains looking very decrepit and vulnerable. That their big agbada hides many ailments. They look decrepit and vulnerable and you can just walk up to them and slap them . Aregbesola was almost slapped in America by this guy who saw him and ekweremadu was beaten to stupor in Germany. Ibori and ekweremadu were thrown into British prison like common criminals

That is a wonderful parallel. Even our politicians are emasculated when they enter the west and they have billions in the bank akant. Talk less of the average naija man with nothing in the akant. You will be emasculated by society to the tenth power.

The solution is to build a prosperous society and impose your cultural norms. That is what Chinese, Emirati and Japanese men did. I have never seen/read a Chinese politician jailed in the West.

descarado:
I needed to quote this.
Thank you for the submission.

When I travelled out of Nigeria and started working, I met some Nigerian guys along the line of my job and it happened they will take order from me and equally report to me.
What I saw was shocking.
No other black African guy not to talk of other races looked and talked down on me like my brothers. Brothers I defend at work, help behind their back?

At a point,I said enough and started treating them like I should have done at first and I never regretted it.

That was terrible from them. Even in the workplace again? Na the problem I get with our men be this: if you want a society where you dominate, ensure you build to a prosperous level. When this is done, you don't vagabond across the world looking for economic prosperity.

That is what Japanese and Emirati men do. They built functioning societies, control everything and their women obey their instructions.

Interesting responses.

Charmingrascal:
Lol

I
Ordinary Supermarket owner will be asking a fresh graduate for 4 years experience for sales representative job.

Above all you can't make it working for someone, if you have a little capital start your own business no matter how small the amount you are making daily, you will have peace of mind.

Not everyone can be an employee. There are more employees in Nigeria and globally than employers. The best recommendation is to upskill continuously and target high-paying companies with good working perks. Not everyone can manage a profitable business. Being a successful business person requires a different mentality, not something everyone has.

Eriokanmi:
Good point! Maybe the OP wanted to sample opinion to justify what he does. There responsible men , oh yes! No matter the urge, nothing would happen. Na only those wey lack self control dey do nonsense in the diaspora. I work with some white guys here in Nigeria. We go everywhere. I've never seen them with another woman. I think lack of self control is peculiar to Africans over there.

To be fair, humans are the same everywhere. I know someone who would not have sex with a Japanese lady because he does not find them sexually attractive. On the other hand, I know another who has done it all with Japanese women.

So, it is not peculiar to any race but the person itself.

Jayboi:
Good day everyone. I have been wondering how married men in diaspora with their wives/family in Nigeria cope when they develop sexual urges. I know women can still try and hold body o but men!

For instance, I know up to ten married men staying in the UAE/Qatar with their families here in Nigeria. Infact they visit just once in a year and make sure their families/wives get the best form of comfort. After, they are off again for months.

I don't want to believe they just remain celebate throughout. Or are there Oloshos or prostitutes in the middle east?

Yes na. In Dubai, e plenty and of various varieties. But e cost o especially if one has a family or project in his home country. For Saudi, e no too plenty and I bet they either have sex with fellow workers/suppliers who are non-Saudis. The same Saudi model applies elsewhere apart from Dubai. Dubai, apart from Israel, is the best place to be as a non-Muslim and non-Arab.

ednut1:
They have gotten Canadian citizenship already, there is a pathway for work permit in USA if they can get a job offer. There is more money in USA with cheaper housing in many states and better weather in the southern and midwestern states . Many are already working for American companies in Canada and can transfer. So why not? 😁
There are still many who will never consider moving as them dey fear gun violence in USA , already have mortgages, children settled etc.

Na why I no dey take online rants/pleas to be serious when certain hard decisions in life have to be made. The bold reminds me of one Trinidadian of Indian ancestry who tweeted his need for a job as time was running out on his visa after being sacked. This dude was a math Olympiad, studied at Caltech and Yale and did one course at Harvard. Respondents promised him jobs and told him to send CVs.

What happened a few months after?

Dude relocated to Trinidad and was doing nothing. Only for me to see that he later moved to the US to do another MSc at Harvard.

When people want to make a hard decision in their lives, they don't take online banters seriously.

IbeOkehie:
You made at least 2 references to living costs. There is a world middle class standard of living. I know I've listed the ingredients that contribute to that standard, public and private amenities inclusive. No matter the country, those standards are the same. For example, world middle class standard means having an indoor enclosed flush toilet. Any family not using one is NOT living at world middle class standard. Most humans beings PREFER to live at a minimum middle class standard.

Add to that, Nigeria has a VERY HIGH COST OF LIVING even in medium sized or 2nd tier localities like Calabar or Owerri. Just the cost of food alone in Nigeria is prohibitive. I lived in Nigeria as a relatively prosperous bachelor so I know. This has nothing to do with currency conversion but the ABILITY TO EARN THE MONEY to buy middle class goods and services. And some of the public amenities that contribute to middle class living standards are simply unavailable.

[b] There's a very strong desire to migrate from Nigeria and for very good reasons. [/b]How can a University graduate with expectations of at least a middle class life achieve it in a country where less than 0.5% of workers earn over $200 or ₦200K per month and a 50kg bag of rice is $50? The person who drives a car I left behind in Nigeria tells me it now costs over ₦50K to fill the tank. It's no wonder so many car owners are permanently parking their vehicles.

About the middle class standard of living, using such standards means the middle class in Nigeria no plenty o. But I continue to analyse these things using Nigerian standards. Once one uses a foreign standard, e go hard o.

About cost of living, there is what is PPP in economics. I am sure you know of it, so with that, the cost of living in certain cities/states outside Lagos, Abuja, Port-harcourt are livable on a 200K income. Someone earning 200K in Jalingo na big boy o.

lastkingsman:
CC: Gerra.rd59

https://www.nairaland.com/7939948/fg-spends-600billion-electricity-subsidy

It's the same reason why refineries are not work. Once you distort the real market price for price of consumables (electricity, fuel...) with subsidies in the name of "making it cheap" for the people, you create a cash cow for the crony capitalists.

The people that bought Discos are milking NBET electricity subsidy and are not ready to re-invest in their acquisition. We are lucky electricity is not easy to sell across the border like fuel, if not...

I knew there was a subsidy somewhere, especially at the transmission stage. This means constant electricity no go dey possible as no foreign investor will invest in such a system. I wonder why that aspect cannot be privatised as well. This our communism/socialism mentality would continue to make us poor as a country.

ednut1:
Follow the money . The factories in China, Uk and Japan who make these generators have collaborators and shareholders from Nigeria. Anyone trying to change the status quo will likely be eliminated or sabotaged.

But you don explain the chain in the electrificaton of Nigeria before: generation, transmission and distribution. I watched Tony Elumelu touring his plant in Delta state; I presume to be at the Genco level. With this your post, are you saying Nigeria would never experience uninterrupted electricity? If the people behind generators are so powerful, why have they not also scuttled the solar industry?

ednut1:
Backstory as seen on instablog. A lot of Nigerian parents are truly narcissistic and abusive. If you decide to japa its common sense to know that once they turn 18 they are no longer children and can move out. But this woman is controlling a 25 years old daughter who is a single mother. Jejely let her go and if she can’t survive after thats her business.

Single mother berths a single mother daughter. Where have I not seen this before?

The apple does not fall away from its tree.

A two-parent household remains the best, indisputably.

Kobojunkiee:
Mother and daughter are fighting like two rivals and you think what they need is someone to come in to play father? NAH!

I know I am not supposed to enter into a debate with you, but for posterity sake, I will.

A father figure would not have made the mother leave the house to go hustle, leaving the children alone to raise themselves. The absence of a father figure and maybe also the absence of an older son has plunged the family into disarray. How come the daughter got pregnant after she left the house as well? A father or male figure should/would have prevented that from happening.

Obviously, there are cases where the male figure is equally useless, or his presence isn't felt, but those are exceptions, not the norm. The presence of a man is very important in families. Statistics support this across the world.

IbeOkehie:
Most of the Anti-Japa Crew will never want to tackle that question 🙄 My experience living in Houston gave me some insight. Suffice to say that the proportion of Nigerians living at the world middle class standard of income & wealth is tiny.

You can even get an inkling of the reality right here on Nairaland. Most of the Nigerian residents who comment here regard a ₦500K
or $500 monthly income as superlative. This likely means very few Nigerians earn this amount. Which gives some credence to reputable surveys and my own direct observations and sources that less than 0.5% of Nigerian adults earn over ₦200K per month.

Regarding 500K as monthly income, it depends on the industry and role one is employed at. The reality is: the industries that can afford such a salary is few compared to developed countries, especially in Anglo-Saxon countries. That is what we tend to forget. Also, such a salary is only available in Lagos, Abuja, Port-harcourt and maybe, just maybe, Kano. Outside those places, salaries are very low and depressing for the residents. Yes, the living costs are also low, but most times, there are very few "good paying" jobs by Nigerian standards available in those places. Statistics say most Nigerians work in the agricultural sector, which is largely subsistent. What I want to know is how that is between southern Nigerian and northern Nigeria.

To be on the fair side, I don't like converting naira earnings to dollars as living costs differ. In Japan, a salary of Y10 million/$100K per annum is classified as very good, but entry level in the US. However, there are diverse industries which pay such in Japan compared to Nigeria.

There's lots of data I'd like to know about Nigeria. What percentage of people over age 50 own a cement home from which they commute to their work...but do you even call it a modern, up to date home if it doesn't have running water?

One of the issues I have regarding discourse about Nigeria is the lack of accurate and well-researched data to support certain claims we see around. The Lagos state government, National Bureau of Statistics and McKinsey do well enough to compile these data. Still, I would love to see more publicised and the methodologies used.

As for running water, I think we would have to define these amenities using Nigerian standards, most of which might not align with global standards. But for relatable sake, the standards should be Nigerianised. If you ask whether running water is available, the next question will be: is it clean? Is it privately financed or from a public authority? With that, one has erased half of homes with running water in Nigeria.

How many Nigerian adults over age 21 own a car? In a country where "new" is generally means a scrapped, unsafe car disposed off as unusable in the USA, then exported to Nigeria.

It is an appropriate question considering Nigeria is a big country by landmass compared to Japan, Singapore, Taiwan or Hong Kong. As outlined above, we would have to define "new" using Nigerian standards. If a new car is, say 2010>, one can say very few Nigerians above that age own such, let alone a new one. The age also has to be increased because most people in that age range are still with their parents, and because of cultural reasons, many might not buy a car. So, make it 30> or better still 35>.

I've repeated it many a time, I personally know working Nigerians earning $500 to $1500 per day in Nigeria, but the question remains - how many such people would you meet at MMIA on an average day? They're so rare as to be irrelevant to any discussion about the economic prospects of an average Nigerian citizen.

While using dollars makes it understandable for a global audience, we have to consider the living costs in Nigeria and standards. Anyone earn those figures is in the upper middle class. I agree that the numbers are so tiny compared to the general population. I think this report do a good justice: https://businessday.ng/business-economy/article/nigerias-dollar-millionaire-club-shrinks-30-in-a-decade/

IbeOkehie:
Thanks for adding your 2 cents here, you're another great and crisp thinker on this forum. Thanks especially for bringing in that comment on INSURANCE. A lot of Black Americans and others too become solid and stable (upper) middle class by means of death insurance benefits.

The rule of law isn't incidental to INDIVIDUAL wealth, it's INDISPENSABLE. So when Oga @MT tried to SEPARATE the system from individual wealth, I was just shaking my head. Anyone who has invested in property in Black Africa and the Anglo-West should know the differences.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Nigeria will remain an UNDEVELOPED or developing nation until the Land Use Act, PIB & Solid Minerals Act are revoked in favor of private property rights and the naira is floated. This is a rock solid certainty, as sure an the sun rises and sets each day. And for anyone who can't understand, please go look up the ECONOMIC definition of development.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

It reminds me of this comment I made a while ago.

Gerrard59:
The Ukrainian dude left his country for another country dominated by Caucasians meanwhile you did not leave Nigeria to another black dominated country? What does it tell you? That sub-Saharan Africa - home to 95% of black people - is home to the largest number of poor people than any other continent is very poor and actually a slum. In fact, Nigeria which you erroneously stated as Africa's richest has the highest number of poor people in the world yet is the most populated country on the continent. Meaning that there are more poor people in Nigeria than almost all of Eastern Europe.



Africa is not wealthy, the earlier you know this, the better for you. Wealth is not what you have but what you can make do with. Japan, Switzerland, South Korea and Singapore don't have half of the so-called minerals most African countries possess, yet are amongst some of the richest places on the planet because they utilised the most important resource - human resource. Which is why crude oil is useless if there is no superior human knowledge in extracting it. In fact, without advanced knowledge from White and Asian dominated countries, so-called minerals in most African countries would have been worthless. Just like crude oil is facing an imminent decline in demand due to green technology, it means that so-called wealth will become valueless in the world market. It is the buyer of crude that determines the price of the product based on what s/he intends using it for. Coal more than a 100 years was once like crude oil but today? Less value, implying those countries that were wealthy because they had coal aren't wealthy any longer. Tomorrow, if European and American consumers decide to consume cell based chocolate, the so-called cocoa which could be peddled as wealth based on your post will lose value just as cell/plant based meat will one day make animal based meat to lose value. The buyer dictates whether the so-called mineral is valuable, invariably making the country to be wealthy




While GDP is a major indicator of measuring a country's wealth, it is not the only way ditto for GDP per capita. Rather, HDI should be placed at the top. Nigeria according to you is richer than Ukraine based on the sizes of both countries' economies but which country has the highest number of poor people in the world? How can such a country be said to be rich? Yes, any rational person will underrate Africa because it has the highest number of poor people in the world. Have you seen or read where a rich country/person is underrated? So, assuming Africa should not be underrated, what do you recommend? Be placed at the same level like Malaysia? South Korea? Vietnam? Brazil? Do you know the sacrilege you would have committed? If you desire that Africa should not be under-rated, then countries on the continent should be rich, at least more than Eastern Europe then afterwards South East Asian countries then maybe North Asia before Western countries.

Africa is poor and has the highest number of poor people. Last I checked, there is a link between high poverty rates and proliferation of slums. These are facts and they don't care about feelings. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-349-08473-9_2

The notion that Africans are wealthier than Europeans or East Asians or North Americans is amusing. There are certain industries or companies that would invest heavily if such a notion is accurate.

RepoMan007:
Thanks to aging trees in Nigeria, cocoa yield has dropped and that means higher prices whenever demand becomes strong.
I am sure if the north had the ability grow cocoa as well as the south, they would have priotized the replenishing of the younger more productive trees and processing of cocoa into chocolates. That's a $150b global industry we are comfortably ignoring yet wishing oil will sell higher forever.

Nigeria is largely an agrarian country that should be having six ministries of agric. One for each region. This should help reduce the politics of interregional exploitation that's crippling many things in Nigeria. The least I expect from Tinubu is this if he is serious about improving the system.

I explained it here:

Gerrard59:
The same could be said of Ghana and Ivory Coast. These chocolate firms generate money because they spend a lot on marketing. It is like Nike or Adidas - make the shoes somewhere in China, and sell them in the West at high prices due to marketing. Two, the major consumers are Westerners, and the companies selling chocolates are theirs. So it won't be easy to disrupt the system. This is unlike electric vehicles, where China is a major consumer, so she can engineer homegrown EV companies.

Since Africans don't consume chocolates like Westerners and the major companies are in the West, the best alternative is to sell to rich Asians - Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans. Also, target Emiratis and Indians. Another alternative is to encourage private investors to establish companies semi-processing cocoa. The final production takes place in the West. Ednut mentioned having constant electricity to preserve it in good condition. That is another issue.

But then, compared to cassava where the West does not participate, Thailand is the major exporter of value-added products, not Nigeria, which is by far the biggest producer globally. That is where successive governments have to support the private sector to add value to it because the Thai folks did the same thing. The major advantage the Thai enjoy is proximity to China - the major consumer of products derived from cassava. Companies are doing the same in Nigeria, but there is so much work to be done. But it is way easier than upsetting the West in chocolate manufacturing. Palm oil is also a case study - we don't have homegrown companies like Wilmar and Sime Darby, which dominate the industry, even though it is said that Malaysia built their industry with oil palm seeds from Nigeria. The major companies behind palm oil production in Nigeria are dominated by foreigners - Europeans, especially Belgians and South East Asians (Malaysians, Thais and Indonesians).

In conclusion, Nigerians are not really as good at long-term entrepreneurship as we claim to be.

LOL!

The comments are interesting, yet not surprising.

Good luck to everyone involved.

Gbawe nearly finished Nairalanders with his O-blah blah blah propaganda. Eko lle follow for back. Then, I always wondered whether Osun was one Eldorado only to realise it was worse than I thought.

If it is not a physical bank, I no do. Home and abroad. I am that old school.

gidjah:
Oga , read to comprehend and then analyse with mental soundness. Emotional reaction to the issue of insecurity won't solve this, it would only escalate and then empower some individuals to cash on That is partly what has brought us far into this deep mess of insecurity. I lived up north for almost my entire existence so I have a better understanding of security than can ever imagine.People should braze up to defending their own territories now with private securities rather than wait on a partly failed system for ther succour.

Since you are experienced about the security situation in the north, what logical solution do you recommend to solve this issue you merely described as happening in the outskirts of Abuja (where the majority reside)? You mention private security, but most Nigerians are just managing by in their daily lives. So where dem wan see money to purchase advanced weaponry to fight these dare devil criminals? These people pay levies and taxes of all sorts, but should now pay private security to fight folks who have nothing to lose? Also, shey Buhari appointed Murwa to head one agency that curtails the spread of small arms in the country, especially from private citizens. So procuring guns is not easy as it seems.

Ameboperoo:
This has become a daily occurrence in Abuja but it is greatly underreported.
Communities in Bwari, Kuje Gwagwalada etc, are being raided on daily basis but none of the kidnappers has been apprehended.
A lot have been killed, maimed and rendered homeless but nothing tangible is being done at the end of the day.
If Abuja is like this, how about the other states ? Nowhere is safe again in this country. Only God protects.

I am curious, when do these raids occur? Broad daylight or at night? Like an entire household can be abducted away and no one sees their breaklight?

It is terrible, honestly. The issue isn't really the kidnapping judging from Nigeria being a developing country, but there lack of action from law enforcement authorities.

https://www.nairaland.com/2403757/working-big4-experience

https://www.nairaland.com/2682579/kpmg-temp-experience

https://www.nairaland.com/3862013/kpmg-salary-structure-salary-payment

Old threads to motivate you.

omotola90:
good afternoon,it is possible but your 2.2 might hinder you.PWC considers 2.1 at most

I think PwC is the most lenient about grades. KPMG is the strictest. Deloitte and EY follow KPMG for back.

OP: as others have stated, you should target non-audit and non-advisory roles. Get a relevant certification and apply. There is a high turnover. It was really bad prior to and during COVID. So those firms always recruit.

Good 'ol days.

emmaodet:
I quiet agree with you but then, the reality I am seeing on ground is quiet different from the scream on social media.
I stood at the Ethiopia airport flight board last month at Addis Ababa and scanned the flight going to Nigeria, 8 flights bro, 8 flights for morning to afternoon on board. Not to even talk about evening own.
And most of these flight would be virtually full with 85% Nigerian passport holders.
By the time you factor in Kenya connecting flights, turkey own, British own etc every blessed bleeping day then you start wondering, who are these people?
Are they not feeling the economic impact? Are they in a different Nigeria than ours?
Where are they getting all these flight money for a country with a minimum wage of 30k per month?
Alot of things are not just measuring up

There are many Nigerians travelling who are based abroad and returning; and doing business across the world. I think Ethiopian Airlines works well with China and other places in Asia. So, the numbers are there. The UK is literally Nigeria's backyard even before independence.

We have Africa's largest economy and population, but I strongly believe we can do better than what we're doing.

emmaodet:
Well, probably.
You have a point.
I will reason in that angle too

Yes, that is the way. Tuck the other passport in a safe place. Upon arrival, present the home country's passport to the immigration. When in Canada, flash Canadian. When in Nigeria, flash Nigerian. Most would never tell you they have a second passport or permanent residency status unless when pressed or if one is close to them.

jerryok:
It's as if this article is dedicated to me. When we were dating she told me she was 32. We married and the marriage lasted for just 18months. Not knowing she was 38 when she told me she was 32. Always fabricating lies about me to her friends, family, church members, my colleagues against me. This lady almost ruined my life. I Saw her dairy when she was still single with prayer points I must marry this year. Every year same prayer points. We were co worker and I am fully aware she was sleeping with so many married men. What she used on me I can't explain till this day. She didn't just sleep with married men, she also connect young teenagers with married men. Before we started dating, she tried connecting me with a small girl at work but I told her to stop what she is doing that she is is destroying other people marriage and she should not expect a happy marriage. I wonder why I still went ahead to marry such woman. My advice, 99% of women above 35 can not be wife material. They have useless themselves. They are the ones you will find in church.

She used juju on you o

But how come the juju faded away? Abi you too get your own juju?

emmaodet:


Bro, I just don't put mouth in japa discussion again.
The Nigerians I meet are a different type.
Many Nigerians are doing okay here. Living their best life.
You need to see how people go on vacations regularly in a group I am.
There are places I go and hotels I lodge or go to swim or gym and the calibers of Nigerians you see are quiet far different from the nairaland version

Obviously, the Nigerians you would meet are in the middle class or upper middle class, but the question is how many are these people compared to the rest of the population? That is really the issue. It is like saying because Dangote is a billionaire, then most northerners are middle class or upper middle class, whereas that is false.

There are rich Nigerians and even middle class Nigerians (I don't ascribe to the belief that there is no middle class in Nigeria). But what is the number?