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Here comes the newest millionaire. if he's not one already

In fact someone posted this link on nairaland sometime ago http://nercng.org/index.php/document-library/func-startdown/50/
I think a time is coming when there won't be much difference (cost-wise) in running your gen and getting bills from PHCN (or whatever the name will be). Fixed rate is back at N500 for residential (R2) and will increase over ti well over N1000 in 2015. Same rate of rise can be seen on the main tariff (N/kWh). Unfortunately I couldn't read anywhere on the document where the minimum quality of service is stated for the providers to meet. The best I can get is a doc on consumer protection on the site that threatens to prosecute anyone PHCN staff requesting money from consumers.

amosy007: nahhh
competition will force price down as time goes on

Sorry to wake you up from the dream world. There will be no competition. The power industry is not like telecoms where the husband and wife are at liberty to choose any network. The way I see it work is that a region (say Lagos or abc L.G.A) will get a company serving it and everybody in that region will have no other choice (apart from I-pass-my-neighbor generators). You'll all be stuck with the provider - good or bad; most likely rip-off tariffs without service improvement. Except if the complain is so much that the regulatory authority (which will be a toothless bulldog) steps in.

In essence what we will end up with is multiple NEPA/PHCN monopoly scattered throughout the federation.

I have always known they will sell to themselves or pawns acting for them. No surprises.

rabzy: Just pray you and your Son for some reason are caught outside at night when they are about with cutlasses and charms, then you will cry in your mother tongue. If a woman cannot see ORO, what happens to woman who has to get to the hospital that day, a woman who is in labour in the dead of the night or who is in some sort of crisis and had to get help. So should she die because some drunk idiots are about, or should she be sacrificed because she saw ORO.

Let them stay in my front when am rushing my wife to the hospital...then lets see how Ogun will save them from the impact of my car.

My wife went into labour in the dead of the night for my 1st child and veeery early (4-5am) for the 2nd. While i thank God I didn't have to worry about any cult driving her to the hospital on those 2 occasions, I certainly would not have stayed back and watch labouring in pain if there was such a f00lish order. They'll have to get past me first b4 pulling an hair from my wife. Obviously sum folks would rather obay such occultic order b4 considering the woman

oyb: see here opposition no get money like that - dont come and reduce our ration

I'll suggest u guys/ladies come 2geda and present ur case to Tinunbu in particular for and increase in minimum wage (you may not have much luck with Buhari). I'm sure tinunbu a more understanding and generous on matters like this. Just don't 4get my adivsory commission

kunletech: Just one day for whatever they want to do, U guys can't. Well, believe it or not ur religion is intolerant, not only in niger, but allover d world.

Sum1 asked will u be willing to observe a curfew imposed by the oro cult (even after the state gov. told them to restrict themselves to dia part of the town) and stay in door on the 25th of dec? Be careful what u wish 4 say to others because u will probably get it.

bohboh275: source ??

Bros pls look at the date. These was discussed waaaaayyyy back in feb 2011 b4 d elections, this July 2012. Its well over a yr

Johndoe100: I don't know who a supporter or believer is with regards to our president. I do know who a supporter and a believer is when it comes to terrorism. They are Muslims (for this post called muzzies, muzzies have killed and maimed hundreds nay thousands of innocent Nigerians without remorse and yet you have these same vampires and their like showing their faces in public without remorse. Muzzies share a COLLECTIVE guilt for the activities of their brothers who maim and kill. Why? very simple, as an example why is the OP of this thread not a "supporter" of GEJ? Why are all THE MUZZIES on this forum anti GEJ? Who do they support? I will answer the questions:-
1. GEJ is a CHRISTAIN

Try and use your brain for once. So its because gej is a xtian abi? keep playing the victim card while he mortgage the future of your kids and dia kids. I guess all the muslims also hated and were anti obj for all his 8-yr tenue.

BetaThings: 1. You need to read the story
2. The Cultists (not the Muslims) planned to restrict movement
3. Muslims told the government that it would affect them negatively during Ramadan.
4. The government called a meeting and asked people to confine their activities to their own part of town
5. The cultists breached that agreement and attacked muslims

Yet you have not said anything against the people who broke the agreement

Is this the truth that will set us free?

And would christians really stay at home during Easter/Christmas for the Cultists


Violence like kidnapping, armed robbery, rape, pipeline vandalisation? piracy
Like the Ife/Modakeke war, Umuleri/Aguleri battles, Tiv/Jukun Crisis?
Ijaw/Itsekiri crisis in Delta
Right?


This is really your destination
All the previous statements were intended to give impression of objectivity
I really suggest that you join the marauding cultists to attack muslims who are going peacefully to mosque

I really tried to stay out of this thread and let ppl display dia hatred and f00lishness in public. I don't know ur faith and I don't care but after reading ur post I can't help but to say GOD BLESS U.

Da infamous: . . .
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Addressing journalists yesterday during the protest, the leader of the Muslims, Alhaji Habib Faruk, said they have already compiled with the state government’s decision to beautify the Bridgehead and Upper Iweka axis by removing all their shops as directed, adding the said mosque does not fall within the area marked for demolition.
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“We are not resisting the decision of the state government to beautify the Bridgehead but the plan to demolish our place of worship is more political and could result in breakdown of law and order because no Muslim would stand by and watch their place of worship demolished for no just cause”
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He said “we are not targeting any mosque.Even if a cathedral is standing in the place marked out for demolition, it would be pulled down, so, the insinuation that the state government is witch hunting Muslims is unfounded and malicious”


http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&pubid=xa-4ebcf1157f12de8d

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/index.1.html

Gov. Fashola (a muslim) demolished a mosque in Lagos and absolutely nothing happened because he presented concrete case to justify the action beyond objection to any sensible human. But you'll be looking for trouble to just demolish a mosque (or any building) and the only reason you can give is

we are not targeting any mosque.Even if a cathedral is standing in the place marked out for demolition, it would be pulled down, so, the insinuation that the state government is witch hunting Muslims is unfounded and malicious”

Mcdondayan: Lets watch and see the American response. This is gonna be HOT!!!

Which American response. I've never seen an eyeball fighting with its socket I have a lot of respect for U.S so I'm tempted to bliv that they're not dumb & a section of their intelligence is aware and probably even planned it with Mossad. In any case the story has been surpressed.

sog
i didnt realy want this to be a xtian vs muslim argument. I called it a terrorist act. I'm just pained at how sum ppl find it easy to luk the other way when israel or any arab US ally does a terrible thing and these same ppl will support military action against someworth less heinous acts by those they perceive as enemy. I wonder how they r able to sleep in the nite. 2day the pple in bahrain have been silenced while iran is being setup for a military action. I don't have any sort of soft spot for iran, but to attempt kill an innocent woman just to occupy iran while lotd people died in bahrain yet the world celebrated F1 evebt in the country ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

noiseless: Yea, the same "xtians" you always roast by bombings in their places of worship right there in your country, the "iranian lives or arabian lives" means dearly to you than your "countrymen and women's lives" should.Yea, the same "xtians" you always roast by bombings in their places of worship right there in your country, the "iranian lives or arabian lives" means dearly to you than your "countrymen and women's lives" should.

All lives are important to me irrespective of national or tribe or religion unlike you who think only xtians lives unjustly taken by the bh criminals TERRORISTS is worth mentioning and condemning. And when arrested terror suspects turned out to be xtians you mischievously turn the other way and even may go as far as saying its a setup. Turning away from the fact/reality and refusing to condemn the act just like you've done in the case of israel. You are not ready to condemn the terrorist act just israel (a nation u have soft spot for because of xtianity)is the perpetuation even though u and i know its not 100% a xtian state.

These people can eliminate anybody and blame it on their enemy just to achieve their objective. The U.S is even ready to sacrifice her top diplomat just because Israel want Iran down If it was any other nation (especially arab nation) that even conceived this idea . . . your guess is as good as mine. Most NL xtians will be out saying all sort of things. Now everybody is quiet because its israel. A bunch of double standard hypocrites.

haka_nai: CHAIN abi na neckless!this xtian groups and there deciets.So everyone has spoken against it except Buhari?why do this silly people always want to drag this man into something he has no authority over or mandate for.you didnt see why you question law enforcers,governor or president over the power given to them yet are unable to gaurantee safety to the citizenry.Nah person wey una hate blindly una want blame.there is a saying "if one hates you,even if you dive into the ocean he would still complain you raised dust instead of splashing water!!The stupid bunch are just trying to accuse the man out of ther decietful.hatefull and useless mind set than take there complain to the appropriate quaters for action.keep hating and going the wrong way because of hate.we would see if that would give you the desired solution to the current situation.

The bolded part explains it all. This is the real meaning of hatred but when some1 criticized GEJ administration objectively these f00ls tag you gej hater.

wow. Indeed I agree its very thought provoking if he got the email warning of the explosions in advance. And I also agree its a good way of diverting peoples attention to something else (insecurity). But my worry is why didn't he raise the alarm? since he got a tip off.I know a man of his status cannot just be victimized by the authorities so that shouldn't be his fear. Well, maybe he did sha. Only God can save us in this country.

naptu2: Port Harcourt tragedy: Rocket from overflying Air Force jet destroys building, car

By Bisi Olaniyi, Port Harcourt


A rocket from an overflying Nigerian Air Force (NAF) jet unexpectedly went off yesterday in Port Harcourt and destroyed a residential building and a Nissan Primera 2.0 SLX salon car.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/43865-port-harcourt-tragedy-rocket-from-overflying-air-force-jet-destroys-building-car.html

Finally, a report that make sense. I just don't bliv a jet (or helicopter) under maintenance will carry fire arms and if it did for any reason, the rocket should have destroyed the hanger because it should be "parked" in a hanger if its truly under maintenance as opposed to taking off from the NAF base, flying over 3km and hitting a building. It just didn't add up.

Jarus:
My own view: while religious fundamentalism by a few extremists cannot be wished away as a root cause, the rising poverty in the region fueled it by providing, for free, an army of illiterate, vulnerable, easily brainwashable youth for the violence. You can't fault that!

Has anybody also noticed this similarity: The poverty in the Niger Delta led to militancy. Their own poverty was not as a result of small federal allocation but just pure corruption and greed. That is why I don't totally agree with SLS that just pumpin more money to any region will miraculously eliminate violence.

ndu_chucks:
I wonder why you didn't find it compelling to express your outrage, in a vigorous manner, at the corruption in question, but found it necessary to explain why Sanusi should be criticized. I think you just buttressed my point, pally.

Of course the foolishness will not allow them to cry out loud with the same vigour. Anything SLS/North/muslim/islam just keep eating them up no matter how reasonable/factual the stand is. Even though corruption (IMO) is the number one killer in this country, it appears to them that is a "lesser" crime so they'll keep mute especially because its GEJ - who according to them is just a victim.

Having said that, I think SLS just rubbed crude oil on his body for his enemies to roast him. I have not read/heard anywhere where he explained his action (For all we know it might have been his personal money) but you can't blame people for complaining if he didn't do the same for bomb blast victims in other states.

Demdem:
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton warned Monday that the rampant poverty that plagues oil-rich Nigeria — felt most acutely in its Muslim north — is fueling the religious violence now tearing at the nation.

A radical Islamist sect known as Boko Haram claimed Monday it killed 12 soldiers and beheaded three government informants in its bloody wave of sectarian violence against Nigeria’s weak central government. While Clinton never named the sect in a speech Monday night in Nigeria’s commercial capital Lagos, he admitted he remained “really worried” about the security challenges in Africa’s most populous nation.

“You can’t just have this level of inequality persist. That’s what’s fueling all this stuff,” said Clinton, who appeared along with Cherie Blair, the wife of former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, at the ThisDay Awards, an annual ceremony hosted by Nigerian newspaper magnate Nduka Obaigbena.

Poverty is endemic in Nigeria, and corruption has siphoned away billions in oil earnings since the country began exporting crude more than 50 years ago. New government statistics released Monday showed that in Nigeria’s northwest and northeast, regions besieged by Islamic insurgents, about 75 percent of the people live in poverty.

Analysts say that poverty, despite decades of military rule by leaders from the north, coupled with a lack of formal education has driven the region’s exploding youth population toward extremism.

In the last year, Boko Haram, whose name means “Western education is sacrilege” in the local Hausa language, has carried out increasingly sophisticated attacks in its campaign to implement strict Islamic law and avenge Muslim killings in Nigeria.

Boko Haram is blamed for killing at least 286 people so far this year, according to an Associated Press count. At least 185 people died in the sect’s coordinated assault in January on Kano, the largest city of Nigeria’s north.

Those attacks have strained relations between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria, a multiethnic nation of more than 160 million people. Clinton called for Nigerians to embrace their similarities, while also asking the government to speed public works projects such as providing electricity to a nation whose people are long accustomed to running their own generators for power.

“It is almost impossible to cure a problem based on violence with” violence, Clinton said. “You also have to give people something to look forward to when they get up in the morning.”

However, Clinton acknowledged Nigeria cannot rule out using military or police force when dealing with the instability. The unease in the country, as well as the threat of possible Boko Haram violence even in Lagos, could be felt as heavily armed soldiers and officers stood guard outside the luxury hotel as he spoke Monday night.

http://www.thewillnigeria.com/politics/12425-Nigeria-Clinton-Warns-Poverty-Fueling-Religious-Violence-Tearing-Nation.html


Nigeria's population in poverty
•    1980: 17.1 million
•    1985: 34.7 million
•    1992: 39.2 million
•    1996: 67.1 million
•    2004: 68.7 million
•    2010: 112.47 million
Source: Nigeria's National Bureau of Statistics

If this had come from a Nigerian, especially SLS, then he will be tagged religious/ethnic bigots. I wonder when we will start asking the gov the right questions of actually delivering dividends as against constituting, planning bla bla bla. Corruption is the number one killer in this country. It is obvious that no economic transformation can materialise where corruption reigns. No amount of SURE or SURE-P can save Nigeria without first getting rid of corruption.

I am a strong supporter of SLS. But it is difficult to defend him this time because in my opinion he is WRONG (even though he has not explained/defended himself). That simply show he is human afterall. O.k that said, let me conclude by asking who-so-ever think s/he is perfect and has never made any error cast the first stone. SLS you can go and sin no more 

frosbel:
But you have not answered my question though !!

Why must we involve religion in banking

Why should a bank impose morning service b4 banking activities every morning. Besides, nobody is bringing "religion" into banking. A number of banks you are used to already has interest-free biz unit within them. The name Islamic is giving you migraine abi?

frosbel:
Why would I want to use Islamic banking, you tell me.

I am starting a group on Facebook to advocate for Christian evangelical compliant banking in Nigeria

This is what I still don't understand. Why all the noise? Nobody is asking you to use it and NOBODY can force you to use it. Just leave it to those who will benefit from it. But your problem is its mere existence is what is eating you up.

I hope they spread to SW soon enough. Lots of bright ideas that need funding will not hesitate to take the opportunity since our regular banks will only finance business/project from the Otedola et al of this world.

SirVee:
Sanusi Lamido Sanusi (SLS) became CBN governor sometimes mid 2009 and he came heavy a few months later on the banking industry telling the whole world how bad our banks were.
The Nigerian Banks had been prunned from about 89 to 25 in number in the consolidation programme by his immediate predecessor - Chukwuma Soludo.

Immediately Sanusi resumed, he claimed he wants to re-structure the banks, hence the Nigerian economy.

1. He told us the banks were very weak
2. He sacked the MD and ED of some of the banks
3. He appointed 'successors' to the very bad directors of the bad banks.
4. He bailed out the banks with very huge amounts of Nigerian tax payers money
5. He established AMCON and started buying 'debts' of the failed banks
6. He shifted dates at will and liquidated three of the bad banks

But three years later, where are we? Has our economy improved? Is there any hope in the near future that the economy will improve?
Is Sanusi the best Nigeria has to be the boss of the Apex bank? Don't we have 'gentlemen' who are can perform better? Don't we have men and women who do not raise alarm taht causes more harm than good to the Nigerian economy.

What has happened to the stock market under SLS?
1. SLS has caused confidence to be lost in the market. How? he has said the stock market is a place for 'gamblers'
2. Sanusi has defended the naira to the detriment of the Nigerian economy (?)
3. Sanusi has increased interest rates to an unreasonabl ehigh level to defend his unsustainable policy, and this has stiffled growth and investment. Businesses have not grown as banks do not lend, and even when they do, the rates have sky rocketed!
4. The return from the stock market have been poor since Sanusi assumed the mantle of leadership of the Apex bank. This invariably implies that bussinesses and the economy has been statis under SLS

FUEL SUBSIDY?
Sanusi supported this subsidy with his blood, telling Nigerians that the proposed 141 naira / litre was it for the economy and nothing else! But when the masses reacted, Sanusis quickly started singing a new tune of dialogue.

Sanusi's Religious and Ethnic bias
SLS has a masters in Islamic Studies from a University in Sudan! Can he be unbiased?
He tried to introduce Islamic Banking to the Nigerian State where there is a strong ethnic and religious divide. Thank goodness this was foiled. Who knows what would have happened if this policy had succeeded withthe new menace of Boko Haram
His recent comment that BH started as a result of poor oil derivation to the North Eastern states with some funny statistics on population et al. soundsed funny, biased and pale! Has Sanusi been to the Delta? Does he know the level of poverty and degradation here?
Is this his statement in support of the wanton (no basis) destruction wrecked on the Nigerian nation by Boko Haram? Boko Haram is recently asking for the whole Nigerian state to be ruled under the Islamic Sharia law? Isn't this funny and pale (I learnt the use of the word 'pale' from SLS)

Who is Sanusi? What is his drive and direction for the Nigerian economy / State?
Can Sanusi be unmasked?
Is he the best that this nation can have as the CBN governor? Has his result favoured the average Nigerian - where so many have lost jobs in the banking sector and alot of businesses have stiffled for shortage of funds?

See Nigerians, What will you rather have him do? I guess you prefer the false sense of health in the Banks abi until you wake up one day and discover that the banks are no more. I know its not palatable to those that lost there jobs, but as far as I am concerned, its a MUCH BETTER scarifice to make as opposed to waking up one day and millions of Nigerians lose there life saving in those banks. The question you should ask yourself is those bank MDs that were sacked, was any of them innocent of the offense they were charged with?

NSE!! wow a bunch of quoted companies with  cooked figures. Just look at the companies whose share prices were affected. They are largely the banks and insurance companies - those that don't really have tangible products to sell. The likes of Nestle, PZ and co were relatively less affected. Next time when a bank says it makes N500tr profit after tax, you will know better to run away. The fact is they were cooked figures and Nigerians fell for it. Besides Sanusi is not in NSE. So if his policy in the banking industry can bring down the stock prices in virtually all sectors of the exchange, it goes to show how strong the exchange really is.

FUEL subsidy: I strongly oppose the removal of fuel subsidy. But I must confess that you'll find it tough to dispute sanusi's facts. All his arguments were solid. The problem he has is that he is a technocrat and as such he is focused on the numbers. The fact is that the numbers just does not make economic sense. But he forgets to look the social implication of removing the subsidy. I am against the removal of subsidy, even though I agree with his arguments. My stand is let the gov. provide electricity, make refineries work, then come back and ask us to pay more on fuel so they can buld road, hospital etc. To collect the money in advance in anticipation of providing this infrastructure is just plain scam.

These are my opinions, I may be wrong from your paspective, but I am entitled to it.

Gbawe:
President Yayi Boni Of Benin Republic "Defeats" Nigeria's Jonathan To Become AU Chairman
Posted: January 29, 2012 - 15:29

By SaharaReporters, New York

The President of Benin republic, Yayi Boni, has been elected as the chairman of the African Union (AU) after a group of West African nations led by Ghana opposed the candidature of Nigeria's President Goodluck Jonathan.

Boni will be taking over the chairmanship of the African Union (AU) from Equatorial Guinea's dictator Teodoro Obiang Nguema.

Mr. Jonathan had injected himself into the contest as a last minute attempt to become the chair of AU but his effort was stoutly opposed by Ghana leading several West African nations that claimed Mr. Boni's nomination was already agreed upon at a mini-summit of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS).

It was not clear if Mr. Jonathan withdrew his candidature after ECOWAS member states blocked his bid to become the AU chair. However, Mr. Boni was announced as the new chair of the African Union and takes over as Chairman at the 18th AU Summit in Addis Ababa today.

Poor GEJ he thinks other African leader are like him that don't honour gentle man's agreement

CyberG:
Gists. . .I am writing from a phone so this will be short: there WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NO (strong emphasis) dual citizenship, mixed heritage, foreign ownership of a pin or centimeter of space in the prosperous lands of the SW. Being born in Lagos will count for nothing as the hatred towards the generosity and gracious Westerners has passed the peak so ALL "foreign" owned banks, properties, etc MUST be physically moved away within weeks or be destroyed. We don't want another "Nigeria" of fighting and hatred.

And then what? What have we gained. All our sons and daughters working in such coys will suddenly become jobless. All the families living in houses built by foreigners will suddenly become homeless all just because of our ego. Is dia any guaranty that other regions will destroy our assets with them? I'm tempted to say the biafrans will not subscribe to this notion.

My wife will suddenly become an expartraite in Lagos even though she can count the number of times she's been to her village on her fingers (that will be nice because I'll then be her manager/agent at her new expartraite mama-put buka. I'll tell her to go for lessons in her native soup as new biz opportunity is about to show  ). Or I'll be a black expartaite in SHELL in the Niger Delta. Ohhhh I can't wait

Hmmm

If Nigeria splits, what happens to the "foreign nationals" from "Oduduwa Republic" and "United Arewa Emirates" working in "United Soviet Niger Delta States" will they be treated as their counterparts from Europe and America? Will they be paid in USD   . The same question can be asked of those "biafran" citizens working in Oduduwa land. WIll Firstbank, MTN, Nestle and co pay them in USD afterall they are now "black expartraites" I do not subscribe to deportation from any region as the lack of competent make power wil ruin the coys.

Who owns first bank, intercontinental oceanic etc all these institutions have their HQ in Lagos though. Will  the Oduduwa Republic be willing to buy them completely?
My wife is not from my region so I'll have dual citizenship Oduduwa and "United Soviet Niger Delta States" Would it not be nice if I turn out to be a "black expartrait in an SHELL, MOBIL, ELF, CHEVRON. WOOOOWWW I can't wait.  

Very silly. Split ko divorce ni

TRUTHTELA:
^^^As a christain that lived in the North, what do you make out of a region that its leaders are so comfortable with people going to CHURCHES TO THROW BOMB, TELLING SOUTHERNERS TO LEAVE THEIR REGION,etc. How come they do not go to MOSQUES on fridayz to throw bombs?? [size=14pt]The ND militants stated their objectives & they trageted pipelines,oil installations & kidnapping. Did they for once resort to tribal & religious killings?[/size] We knew what the North wants, hence, their leaders a SILENT. Sanusi, said the difference in monthly allocation is UNFAIR & that justifies his kinsmen shedding bloods allover ? I thought their EVIL religion ( Islam ) teaches that earthly things are worthless,so why are they BITTER over the Niger-Delta's oil resources?

So in your foolish opinion, bombing pipeline, oil installations and kidnapping are gentle men's activities. It is better bomb eagle square on the independence day and atlas coves in Lagos with loss of innocent lives, kidnapping people for ranson and killing them sometime even after ransom have been paid is better than bombing churches abi? I've said it b4 and I'll say it again [size=18pt]KEEP WALLOWING IN YOUR FOOLISHNESS[/size]

Just remember the US budget for defense alone is far much more than the entire Nigerian budget. Talking about resource:spending ratio. The US can conveniently afford 30 for her 1st lady and another 30 aids per senator without excessive negative impact in their economy while having two legistlative houses alone is proving to be so much of a financial burden to this country. I'm not concerned about the tradition in the US. I'm looking at their expenses vis-a-vis the resources available to them; comparing that with Nigeria is just silly to say the least.

WOW, this is sad. O.k compare now. Can US afford 50 aids? In my opinion maybe yes. I really don't know. But we know the U.S gov is not over blotted. Can Nigeria afford 24 aids for the president. Yes definitely, just that they have to keep scamming/ripping us off to pay them. Just like we just experienced with subsidy issue. I have even heard of subsidy removal from electricity. I don't know if this is true, I hear say Chicago alone would have been the third richest in the world if it was a country on its own. Keep on comparing and it should not be hard to see the wastage in this country.

I have been a fan of sanusi all along, but I must confess he disappoints me on this one. He would rather have the north have a more balanced spread of the allocation with the people of ogoni and co whose water is undrinkable, fishing activities destroyed etc because of the activities of ioc. I don't agree with him on this one.