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Christianity EtcRe: How Do U Tell Ur Church Member U Are In Luv Wit Her. by GODSON2009(m): 4:03pm On Sep 25, 2009
@poster
i dont know where you worship,but in my own church reddemed the process is for you to first tell your pastor after you have prayed about it, then your pastor will know how to call the girl and ask if she is single,and some other questions,if he sees that you both might be compatible,he will now assign both of you to maybe the same group in church,or fellowship or something where you will both be in close proximity then the rest will be left to you,if you speak to the girl then and she s cool with you,the pastor will assign someone to keep watch over both of you during courtship while you are attending marriage counselling, untill you get married
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 3:59pm On Sep 25, 2009
olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #314 on: Yesterday at 10:41:00 PM » Am almost ashamed to ask you how old you are. The reason is that it seems that you lack independent thinking, yet you said you have finished a University degree study, based on your alluding to a dissertation of some sort on Wahhabi and Qubt! You seem to think that you can make a statement of falsehood and no one will challenge you? Enough of your lies, and if you cant substantiate it, ten you rae dismissed. The Yorubas says when a child is old enough to hold firmly the sword to fight, this is when he should ask who and how did his father die! Until then it is better for him to be uninformed of the demise of his father. Why later, and not when he was just 2 years old? The reason is that at 2 he will just be as vunerable and easily can be killed by the same enemy of his father. But at 25, when he is fully grown and independent, a leader of his community, maybe he does have a better chance of avenging his father's death! Are the delay of the information from him at 2 contradicting the information to him at 25? No and the reason is that the process have to be formed and completely and gradually introduced so that the heart and the soul can take it! Islam is a gradual process, and information are given gradually as appropriate and conmensurated to the strength of belief and community as a whole!

And if you cant process this, then I am right in my opinion of you above and no wonder you are locked in to worshipping 3 gods, where one of them is exactly like me! See, it is not so difficult for me to know that there are no three gods anywhere, so am blaming you for lying on a human prophet, on an angel and God Who you are putting on a chair and calling Him father! Your lies on them is blameworthy, so I am warning you before your Creator punishes you for it.

While the liars or the ignorants wrote what they call ahadith which completely ontradict the Personality of Muhammad (AS) and the Quran, I can see these, but you in eagerness and blindly wishing somebody to take up your sins, you think a guy who could not even defend himself against some rag tag Jews and cant really forgive anyone if he were to be in position of power is going to save you from the punishment? Think again!
dont worry about how old i am alhaji,there is no age limit on getting behing a laptop is there? grin

you still dont get it do you?
my point is this,while i agree with you that mohammed at the beginning of his ministry was bound to make mistakes,which he later corrected with the abrogations e.t.c
however the reason i still maintain my stance is because,this is supposed to be visions and words from allah, so irrespective of how old or young he was,these kinds of mistakes,contradictions is wayy off the mark, if the lord started showing even a 10 years old unbeliever visions,these in the know have said the boy will be seeing the visions like someone watching a tv,so unles mohammad has eye problem in addittion to everything wrong with him,i dont see the excuse to justify the many contradictions,if he was really conversing with angel gabriel like he said then the angel would have shown him clearly and answered every questions he didnt understand .after all, your allah is supposed to be all knowing isnt it?so he should know if his "prophet" doesnt understand a vision,or see into the future and correct his "beloved prophet" by sending the angel again,

i got the testimony of an annointed man of GOD who i personally know,he was smoking cigarette when the lord showed him his first vision,and even though he was a proper sinner,fraudster e.t.c it was as clear as watching tv and he still remembers till today, same goes for others, even original babalawos who see their own visions dont make the mistake of correcting themselves later on, so pls answer the question

how come mohammad made mistakes and started to reverse himself in his visions?
did his allah make mistakes or mix up the visions or was it mohammed that mixed it up?
because like i was asking you and abuzola,i still dont understand that level of abrogations in the quran
Christianity EtcRe: Apostle Paul Proudly Declared To Be A Foolishman by GODSON2009(m): 11:28pm On Sep 24, 2009
Abuzola:
@david. Don't accuse me of anything na your bible talk am, no be me
so you still dont get the reason they are laughing at you??
davidylan:
all the one we've been quoting from your quran has earned us death threats, locked or mysteriously disappearing threads. What are you muslims afraid of?
they are afraid of what is happening now i.e christians converting their followers hence the intimidation
IslamRe: Polygamy by GODSON2009(m): 11:04pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
@godson,i dnt mind if am IYALE,so far i wont av HIV,go get your own wifeyyyyyyyy,there are plenty pretenders in your redeem church, and hope is not RCCG,HOUSE OF PRAISE CHALTON?cos they are all WHORES there o,except few married people and the pastor(mrs)
so u dont mind?this your religion is something else,if you dont mind sharing a man, im sure men are scarce anyway,seeing as they have to fight and die as martyrs lol

what is your own with hiv?i hope you are not fornicating or committing adultery with a man who is yet to properly marry you in a mosque?

dont worry im getting a wifeyyy soon,unlike you muslims i am only entitled to one and i cannot divorce her all through my lifetime and no 72 virgins are waiting for me in paradise,so i have to choose carefully grin
ill keep it in mind not to look for a woman there,thank GOD you agreed the pastor mrs is  and a few ppl are ok
Christianity EtcRe: Adeboye's Son Romances Society Woman Leader by GODSON2009(m): 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2009
dont insult my intelligence,you should know me by now that i know what i am saying, if you dont know the answer,then patiently wait for olabowale to answer the questions,meanwhile sit in a corner and read your quran, you expect me to start cataloguing all the abrogations and contradictions in the quran?
ill be here till tmorrow and not go out at all grin

the question is simple?

why is there so much abrogations,confusions,contradictions in the quran and hadiths?

is your allah a allah of confusion?
is your allah a allah of error?
is your allah a allah who reverses his own words?

if not then is mohammad a prophet who forgets prophecies?
is he a prophet who commits human errors?
is he a prophet who reverses himself?


if none of the above then what is the reason for the abrogations,contradictions?
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 10:52pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
FOR THE BELIEVER'S HEARTS IN ONENESS OF GOD, THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER OF SOME FAVORS OF ALLAH ON THE BLESSED MUHAMMAD (AS).

Surat Ađ-Đuĥaá (The Morning Hours) - سورة الضحىبسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

93:1: By the forenoon (after sun-rise);

93:2: And by the night when it is still (or darkens);

93:3: Your Lord (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) has neither forsaken you nor hated you.

93:4: And indeed the Hereafter is better for you than the present (life of this world).

93:5: And verily, your Lord will give you (all i.e. good) so that you shall be well-pleased.

93:6: Did He not find you (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) an orphan and gave you a refuge?

93:7: And He found you unaware (of the Quran, its legal laws, and Prophethood, etc.) and guided you?

93:8: And He found you poor, and made you rich (selfsufficient with selfcontentment, etc.)?

93:9: Therefore, treat not the orphan with oppression,

93:10: And repulse not the beggar;
quran 16;75, says acording to mohammed all men are not equal,
Allah sets forth a parable: (consider) a slave, the property of another, (who) has no power over anything, and one whom We have granted from Ourselves a goodly sustenance so he spends from it secretly and openly; are the two alike? (All) praise is due to Allah! Nay, most of them do not know.

9;29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

98;6
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

8;55
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe.
allah does not love unbelievers, unlike jesus christ who loves sinners,

Surely Allah does not love any one who is unfaithful, ungrateful. (22:38)


Verily We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this, and over their ears, deafness, if thou callest them to guidance, even then will they never accept guidance. (18:57)


Certainly the word has proved true of most of them, so they do not believe. Surely We have placed chains on their necks, and these reach up to their chins, so they have their heads raised aloft. And We have made before them a barrier and a barrier behind them, then We have covered them over so that they do not see. And it is alike to them whether you warn them or warn them not: they do not believe. (36:7-10)how will they convert if they dont believe? grin
here mohammad enjoins muslims to commit violence against these who are non-muslims

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)

Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9

And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 10:41pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
Ahadith by definition is either what Muhammad (AS) said or what was said in his company and he did not correct or rebuke it from being said! There is no other definition. Now tell me how what Aisha was reported to have said qualifies as ahadith! Incidentally, this morning, I heard a man on the news saying that something happened to him at the age of six, the details his parents knew, but he who physically experienced it can remember that far. Then it dawned on me about the life history of Muhammad (AS), losing his father before his birth and losing his mother at 6 and his grandfather who raised him from that point at 8, whereby the responsibility fell on his uncle, who supported him.

Allah says of Muhammad in surah Ad-Duha 93 verses 6-8; you were orphan an given refuge, unaware and guided, poor and made rich (I will post the verses 1through 10 for those whose hearts are soft to take them in. I state this Surah Ad-Duha because Allah Himself defended your evil allegations on Muhammad as to the case of Aisha's supposed statement, which does not fit definition of Ahadith, on one hand. In addition, to this, we should know that Muhammad's sirah tells us that he did not remember the essence of his own mother, who died when he was 6, the exact age claimed by the narrator of the fake ahadith by definition clained for Aisha (AS)! If Muhammad did not truly remember on his own his own mother because of the young age up to the fact that his grandfather was not truly remembered by him, a future prophet who Allah guided more than any person who ever walked the face of the earth, including from Adam through to Jesus among the prophets and messengers (AS), how is it therefore possibble that Aisha (AS), only a mother of the believers, will have better memory than Muhammad (AS), a prophet, a messenger to all mankind?

The issue here is that anyone can say whatever they wish to say of lies, the truth is very obvious. Age of remembrance is  differenet and I do not remmeber everything that happened to me in 1960/64! More importantly, a bride to be is supposed to participate in the contract of her marriage and that includes the amount of the dowry. Thenarrator did not mention these essential facts. So my statement and conclusion is that it is not an accurate statement because she was "BETHRONED" to somebody else before and the marriage angagement was called off, before the prophet (AS) proposed. Am sure when a woman is merely bethroned, she has become "ajeku" Left over by your yesterday's statement!

Instructions of Muhammad (AS) to people about marriage, including the litmus for knowing whether a woman accepts or reject proposal when her parent informed her, Muhammad could not go against this process and other including contract, etc to include the ceremony, even when she is not even there physically!
well,dont blame me if i decide not to believe your own events of what happened to you this morning, i prefer to believe what i have seen and read with my own eyes,namely the hadiths,i dont expect you a muslim to agree to something putting your prophet in bad light, so i neither agree with nor even want to read your own events,you are right on the bolded because mohammad lied many times and contradicted himself, i further asked you iof your own allah ever made mistakes or reversed himself,and ou answered with a resounding NO!!

so what is the source mof mohammad's mistakes and contradictions in the quran,leaving the hadiths out??

why would i believe the bolded at the bottom,when the quran and hadiths are all known to contradict each other constantly, only one book and several contradictory hadiths,interpretations, on the other hand the originator of the religion contradicting himself severally,and cancelling out some of his earlier assertions r proclamations,

the question thus is that;is your god a god of mistakes and contradiction?

or is your prophet a prophet of mistakes and contradiction?

choose one or both grin
Christianity EtcRe: Adeboye's Son Romances Society Woman Leader by GODSON2009(m): 10:31pm On Sep 24, 2009
that is not what i asked about abrogation, several verses in the quran was abrogated so its not as simple as you r trying to explain away,

again

why is it that sooo many words directly from mohammad was abrogated? is it because

yours and mohammad's allah made a mistake?

mohammad made mistakes?

yours and mohammad's allah is a god of errors and omission and contradictions?

note that i am not accusing your allah of anything"yet" i am giving you a fair chance to properly respond to these weighty allegations grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Did You Gave Your Life To Christ? by GODSON2009(m): 10:26pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
i laugh in shorthand, i wish what u wish for me for yourself,its seems you are blind,cos if you are not, you wont keep repeating it that my conversion to ISLAM is due to my guy,fine i dated a muslim despite the fact that i was a good xtian and dnt allow any foolish church member to come btw my relationship,its that not a shame to u guys that of all the xtian guys,i had to date a muslim,cos you people are pretenders,worse,they sin anyhow,assume grace the next day and still jump on the keyboard,piano,mic and the pulpit to minister to others,no manners can be found in them,just pretence in SUIT, and for your info, my guyand our generation to come will be muslim forever insha Allahu
AMEN at the bolded!! it is due to your guy because a muslim man will never tolerate a christian girl,so its either you are willing to convert or you ll hit the road and find another dude, im sure there are more than enough muslim girls for the guy to choose from,with the subservient mindset islamic women have.
its a shame o i agree a shame that you were a sunday sunday christian and not born again before deciding to be a muslim because of a guy,but stop saying you were a good christian,a good born again and broken christian will not date "guys", she will only court and then get married, so muslims dont sin and then go into the mosques??you must be really naive if you believe that lol.

didnt you hear what i said earlier?
you are converting back,mark my words,
to prove me wrong,get married and show all of us here your wedding certificate then yyou can say i was wrong or are you scared or insecure? grin
as for your generations being muslims, that remains to be seen,all your contemporaries who have crossed over to the winning,joyful side said more than this before the lord arrested them grin
noetic2:
. . . grin grin grin I laugh in arabic
i cant shout grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 10:14pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
first of all,you and i both know that public outcry has never stopped mohammad taking any actions, remember the time the meccans complained about his highway robbery?rather than stop,he brought out a convenient "revelation"
when his wife was complaining about his closeness to the christian slave,what did he do?he brought out another convenient "revelation now. while ignoring the flawed and empty assertion of aisha which you have written up there to suit your arguments, ill provide the relevant verses to back me up
And true to form, you Godson2009 did not give us the revealed verses, so your statement is wishy washy. But then if every accusation is to stick on the elects of God, then we will see that Moses would not qualify. You already said that avid and Solomon were not anyhow, yet the conniving Jacob was, ans do was Isaac who slept with a harlot losing out his signet was! Strange man, strange!

My opinion as a muslim is different and can be found in the Quran and what is Quran compartible of ahadith on the issue!
1.meccans complaining about prophet mohammad's highway robbery, mohammad received a "revelation" to the effect that,although breaking the truce was indeed sinful,the meccan prosecution of islam was even more so(even though all they did throughout was verbal,never on the scale he did hmmn)
"they will question thee concerning the holy month,and fighting in it.say;fighting in it is a heinous thing(so now he has admitted doing a heinous thing grin) but to bar from GOD's way and disbelief in him,and the holy mosque,and to expel its people from it-that is more heinous in god's sight;and persecution is more heinous than slaying(quran 2;217)

2.mohammad's wife complaining about the christian slave and the attention mohammad was giving her, (who no like better thing,i dont blame him o)yet again he has a convenient excuse for this as well,
" O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful quran 66;1, you can continue reading from there, )so he remembers the christian doctrine of a merciful all forgiving GOD when he needs to get with the slave girl,
did you ever consider that it might be the christian girl that influenced that particular verse?remember it sounds similar to bibliocal verses grin

lol have you forgotten that even your prophet with his own mouth has validated moses and the rest of them, true or false?so i dont even have to say anything grin grin unless you abrogate again,

dont foget to answer my questions about abrogation o
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 9:59pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
@sungod,Alhaji can never be your friend,dnt call him one,what has his light has to do with your darkness,hes only arguying with you cos hes commanded by ALLAH to do so,so that you can believe
this is where we differ,because my own GOD is a god of love,and he has commanded me to love my enemies and every single person so i reallcare about you sister uplawal changed to rachel grin
olabowale:
So Godson2009, show your morality by not marrying! Heck tell all Christians not to be married and see how quickly Christianity will be a thing of the past say 150 years from today. Can you do that for me Mr. Morality? I will beg Allah to let me stay alive to see that day, the moment you people stop getting married and having sex, you girlfriend craze man, and when you guys stop having little carol and kenny! Not getting married is morality, then all those tangental and immoral sickos of England who cant get women are in this class! NO?
well jesus said that it it advisable to keep oneself without marrying,however in the same verse without later abrogations or contradictions like someone we both know, he adviced that one can get married,if you so wish which some of us wish,and some dont.

well marriage might be morality,but a prophet should be seen to act super human,unless i am wrong i thought your prophet was supposed to be super human,instead he is behaving human even doing stuffs i wouldnt do,will you sleep with a 9 years old girl? neither would i.
i wouldnt take someone's wife just because they are having problems in their marriage,i would call them and sort the probems out, that seems to be more honourable isnt it?
olabowale:
Are you a new born baby? Are you not a yoruba man? Is the Yoruba culture not 100% better than the British culture you now adopt? Is it not better than the christian culture of the Jews or the europeans? The Aladuras is almost exclusively based on Yoruba culture instead of Ogun, Oya, Osun, ifa, Songo, etc, they replace it with Jesus! You must be kidding me that I should tell you about what advantages the polygamy of yoruba has; large family for one, support in time of need for another, good human relationship, and many others, including the fact that no one dare to take advantage or abuse any member o the family! The best is that my prophet (AS) said that we should have large family to mentain Islam and of course continue the hman race on earth! You must be kidding me just like you have been kidding me with all your Trinitarian explanations!
i see,if you are a yorubaman as well,why are you worshipping a foreign arabian god??why not worship sango,oya,obatala grin grin
i see,so you will bring children into this world in droves simply because you want a large family and support??
including using them for thuggery in case or in the even of fightinghuhwow now i am getting a muslim man's mindset, GOD HELP US!!

oh i see, so your prophet wanted you to keep manufacturing babies so that you can keep up the illusion of being the fastest growing religion??well keep on manufacturing them,and my daddy g.o pastor adeboye,ashimolowo,oyedepo e.t.c will be taking them off you in millions like we are doing in nigeria and everywhere in the world, we r spreading the gospel to islamic strongholds now, have you seen what tb joshua is doing in indonesia a muslim stronghold? grin
@uplawal
how many children do you plan on having as a good muslim woman?it has to be nothing less than 10 considering what your prophet mohammad said
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 9:37pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
Yes because the reality of the issue is that the adopted son is not his true son! My step daughter is not my daughter! Can my son marry her? Yes. Can my adopted son marry my daughter? Yes! Do they have blood relationship and therefore morally wrong? No! It is almost as if people who are next door neighbors who are not related calling themselves family members marrying and someone is shocked by it! Silly reactionary until you look and examine the blood relationship!
this is serious,so one one hand the quran condemns adultery and fornnication by stoning,yet your prophet if free to appropriate another man's legally married wife, this is serious ;Dand you dnt think that calls his morality into question?lol
olabowale:
You live in England, and the European Royalties marry one another, even as they are related by blood, whereas you are not shocked by it, yet you have mouth agape at no blood relationship but personal desire fake family relationship marrying into each other, one another! I told Davidylan, if he marries a beautiful wife and he makes a mistake to divorce her, David can expect me to take up his "ajeku; the language you used for divorced women" and david and I will not loose any sleep by this! I pray that he marries well, and my statement is just to illustrate the issue!
well,just like i look at your mohammed's behaviour while on earth and shake my head,the same way i look at the royals no difference, dont worry when the time comes for us to marry,it shall be a born again cheistian and nothing more or less.
olabowale:
Stop calling me your friend! I will not know yu if I say you and I have not heard your voice before, what kinda friend is that? And Revelation is an answer to question, addressing issues, and explaining and a means of guidance, pointing out merits and demerits of issues; So as to the Marriage of his adopted son, read Surah Ahzah, it was meant to destroy the falsity of "adoption" just like Allah pointed out that the fact that the food of the jews is permissable for Muslims, their culture of prohibition of eating hidlegs is not applicable to the muslims, because Jacob imposed that on himself and Allah did not impose it on Muslim because thats the desire of a prophet Jacob on himself (AS), alone without Allah sanctioning it on anyone else!Jesus intended to kill, he just didnt have the chance the motives were there; reason he showed anger with the Money Changer, proclaimed that he brought in no peace but war, family divisions, abusing people calling them fools, adulterous generations, killing tree, destroying pigs, and commanding the purchases of sword! He was an equal abuser person, verbally and ammonitionally. And nothing is obvious, because Muhammad in many instances as a powerful leader surrounded by strong and bold warriors and supporters, forgave even his mortal enemies, the Makkans, the Jewel in Madina.
ha ha lol dont worry calm downwe christians always exhude love towards our friends and enemies, i understand you r not used to that hence the reason you r not comfortable , lol lol
you dont get it do you??irrespective of the rights or wrongs or the justifications, it is morally reprehensible for any man to marry a wife already living in another man's house and properly married, the morally just thing for any man to do, especially religious so called prophet,is to sort out their differences  so that they can be happy together, how many wives of your junior brethrens have you taken off them because they were not happy together?you see how morally flawed it sounds?

he showed anger at the money changer by overturning the tables,why didnt he reach for a knife or sword like you muslims? grin
he never had an opportunity?what of the time he was seized and peter cut off one of the pharisees/saducees ear?why did he restrain peter and heal the guy sticking the ear back?you and i know what mohammad would have done faced with same situation, so you r equating verbal abuse with the hundreds of thousands of people that have died and continue to die through your mohammad? grin mohammad did not forgive the makkans,remember he eventually took controll of mecca,remember he tried to cripple them financially?

for every instance of forgiveness mohammad shows,i can show you  double or tripple instances where he killed innocent people,so there!
olabowale:
Jesus did not forgive anyone as a powerful leader, and there is evidence that he would have forgiven anyone if he was in position of authority, and his turning over the table on the plaza is a telling example. saying that he forgave the woman is an absurd statement, since he should have carried out the symbolic stoning and then say I forgive you with the way that Job did with his wife just by touching her with the 100 blades of grass, jesus could have done it with a small pebble. And at hanging he did not give the thief who did not acknowledge him any mercy. Even Joseph did better since he allowed the wife of his master to confess and did not hold it against her when he was in position of power, and he fogave the butler jsut as well, too!


And I am waiting for you to proof man as god and ghost as god and father on a chair as god, when God Almighty is indivisible and wholesomely One!
do you recall that jesus even at a time thousands of people were following him never armed anyone?
or are you having selective amnesia, did jesus not feed 5000 people on the mount?without retorting to armed robbery and brigandage  like your prophet?
the bible says zacheus a high ranking official could not get close to him because of the surging crowd and had to climb a tree, now imagine how many people will be surrounding him,for a high ranking tax official not to move near him, we r talking of a modern day chancellor of the exchequer not being able to get near him,

again go and look at the accounts of the woman with the issue of blood,she couldnt get near him because of the crowd,

so what s your point?

i am also waiting for the "conclusive proof" that mohammad wasnt just a normal smart kid who  pulled the wool over the eyes of  ignorant arabians,and is still controlling a group of zombies till today lol
IslamRe: Polygamy by GODSON2009(m): 8:56pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
SUNgod u always wanna feel among
dont worry you r ok,since you have a man all he will just do is get the 71 virgins remaining then you will be the "iyale" grin
IslamRe: How Much Of A Woman Should A Man See? by GODSON2009(m): 8:53pm On Sep 24, 2009
AFEEFA:
@GODSON2009
I'm surprised that am responding to your post Mr man.
I shudder at the mere sight of immoral dressing.
This act has become so rampant in our society today and for you to assume that those of us who adorn the Hijab are being enslaved beats my imagination grossly.

I wonder what the size of a woman has got to do with her Hijab, ever hear of the adage: "cut your coat according to your size?"
Isn't it simple that the hijab will follow suit with the size of the user?
I wonder what you do not understand about flexibility of textile.
If you check to see the label of any tailored clothing, you'll see the size clearly written along with the name of the designer S - small, L - Large M- medium and XL - Extra large.
From the above list you can easily make your pick depending on how lean you've become in your aimless pursuit for glory where there is none or XL if you've grown so fat in your thoughtless and uncaring mindset for the needy.
Come to think of it, can you still wear same jean trousers you were so fond of in your first year in secondary school?

Oga, you don't have a point,I'll willingly give your madam one of my very pretty Hijabs,am sure she'll appreciate it.
She can come have her pick out of many.
grin grin grin@the bolded, dont worry i am perfectly normal,unlike olabowale,abuzola uplawal the mujahideens looking for whom to blow up,

i and my religion shudder at immoral dressing as well but there are two points for you to consider

1.does your manner of dressing corespond to your behaviour or depht of religious belief?

2.does the wearing of hijab totally eradicate lustful thoughts towards a lady?the answer is no, so why are you deceiving yourselves that the hijab will not make a woman commit fornication, do you honestly believe in your heart that if angelina jolie puts on a hijab or any of the models they wont be attractive to men who like such people?
the point of my preamble is that putting on an hijab has nothing to do with one's religious beliefs or one's moral probity, all the hijab is doing is reinforcing the female enslavement and the gender unequality in islam, the hijab does not stand alone in the whole pattern of female enslavement in islam,

1.the women dont only wear the hijab,they have to be hidden away in a corner of the house,they also have to be behind the men while praying,they cant sit together both in public and private e.t.c
now add all that to the hijab and tell me if that is not enslavement, why are your islamic men not putting on an hijab?

check what i meant from my reply to olabowale and fizzybaba,

thanks for the offer but no,my madam only covers her hair in church like the bible enjoins but she doesnt hide herself away,
i prefer her being by my side not licking the dust behind me or smelling my bum or fart,we christians dont believe women are slaves,we believe they are indispensable and our partner and helpers grin

i think you should try not using the hijab for a couple of weeks,and see how reliefed you ll be
IslamRe: How Much Of A Woman Should A Man See? by GODSON2009(m): 8:38pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
@Goodson2009:And you said above in your post mere looking is enough as it dirty and bad thing, yet you have the way with in all to know all the above? Hypocrite this man Godson2009 is. No?

This dude is a shark instead he parades himself about as a jelly fish!
how will i choose the woman of my choice if i dont look,did you marry your 10 wives by closing your eyes? grin
fizzybaba:
how can you possibly argue with both sides of your mouth.

u correctly argue that mere looking with unclean thoughts is lustful yet u conversely espouse that a woman should be allowed to expose whatever she feels like.does that not defy logic?

well, if u have seen an hijab before(not scarfs that extends to the shoulder), the conceal all that u have asked if they cover.
the point is that covering oneself up to the shoulders is not a detterent to or for a man or woman for that matter to have lustful thoughts towards them so if that is what mohammad was trying to prevent,then it falls flat in the face of any deductive reasoning, that is the reason i catalogued the various parts of a woman's body which is not covered by the hijab, hope you get the logic now grin im sure olabowaLE DOES
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 8:28pm On Sep 24, 2009
thank GOD for that reply
olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #300 on: Today at 06:32:27 PM »

Then the other is if the Supreme God will reverse Himself, will have a No answer from me, as to whetehr is reversal from good to bad, in the sense of say "I will not punish you, regardless of what you do" to "I will punish you because you a disbeliever, or doing evil!" But this actually speaks to your Bible which has shown injustices by Jehovah allowing the Children of Israel a guaranteed Paradise and will always be rght regardless of what they do; evil to extreme evilness! Now I am waiting to see where your effort leads to that I educate you about Islam, and at thesame time cream you by pointing out the evil in your book!
so if the supreme GOD can neither reverse himself nor make any error either of judgement or of prophecy, tell me,

why has the supposed revelations,which was passed down to mohammad from GOD suffered so much contradictions?first he gets one revelation,then another one comes later to abrogate the words, you have said it yourself that the quran was written by your allah,it therefore stands to reason that your allah corrected himself several times,and abrogated himself several times,your allah even made a mistake and used eraser to clean it i.e satanic verses which was anulled
i am asking because my own GOD will never ever make any mistake,he will do what he will do and he never goes back on his words, even the bible says the lord honours his words more than his name, now

choose one,

1.is your allah,the one that has reversed himself or contradicted himself?

2.is it mohammad that has made the mistake?

3.is it both of them?

meanwhile you have not answered my questions about abrogations in the quran and islam,jihad e.t.c can you enlighten me about it please, i can give you an indepht on it if you want
Christianity EtcRe: How Did You Gave Your Life To Christ? by GODSON2009(m): 8:18pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
@godsun,i have my Quran here and my hadith,i dnt av to give you verses from there since you claim to know better,and all i need doing is to attack you if and when i can,sun worshipper.
so you r afraid to study the bible in case the holy spirit arrests you?lol let us hear what both has to say on what i have asked you which you v not even tried replying, at least olabowale is trying for you,but not suceeding
uplawal:
@godsun,i dnt av to be like you in replying to posts,all av differences in replies,is there any substance in what u've posted,anyway, i dnt av to open my heart for you to believe that i studied about ISLAM before conversion,and my wonderful,loving guy is nothing to do with it,even for the fact that he is a very strong muslim,so say whatever u wanna say about my reversion, i dnt care,all i know is that i have seen the proper light and you are still in darkness,if i accept ISLAM because of my guy,which is not even possible cos i never for once love ISLAM in the first place,keep gulcking in your holyspiritgod,pls i dnt need it o,am so done with your IDOLATORY
thank GOD for the bolded, shows your conversion is more for your wonderful guy than religion, what happens if you break up then? grin
my own answer is that i will pray so that you will meet a proper born again christian man whereever you stay or your boyfriend becomes a born again christian, tell him he has a chance to repent and be born again,or else you too cant get married
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 8:12pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
I need no hand out man. Allah has blessed me. I pay taxes in America and in Nigeria, too. I already have two grown sons, so your advise is 26 yearss too late! But am going start up just about now because I have money to prepare for whatever it takes. And by the way, if you went to Ijero Ekiti, you will find the kayodes. Their father had many many wives. many many wives I said. Each wife had as many children as God permitted. One of the children is a pastor or reverend in NYC, and was college roommate! I guess even the Christians are not even listening to you! They are not listening to Jesus either, and they are doing more than Muhammad (AS) recommended! So whats their fate in the house that Jesus went to prepare; which room do they end up? Lol!
i see,now for the sake of everybody on here,could you list the advantages of a polygamous family for us pls,i am not concerned with you being polygamous in the context of your personal life,but in the context of you being a muslim so pls advantages according to the islamic doctrine
olabowale:
Dont lie to me. I know your type, you change them like a used up bootball, and have a new one when you are reaf=dy. All you have to do is go to the next house party or african night clubs! Common man, tell the naive minds that.
he that is in me is greater than he that is in you and in the world!
olabowale:
The same reason i have asked you to show me if you knew when Aisha was born relatve to the Prophethood of Muhammad (AS) and the becoming muslim of her father Abu Bakr (RA)! You have failed to address any of these issues, and you said that you did for your dissertation something about Wahhabism and Qubt of Islamic Brotherhood! If you want to do a good Job for Christianity, then you should have been bold enough to give us scholarly article on Aisha. Then you will see me confronting your assertion, since I know that she was bethroned to be married before her father became muslim, and it is the family's joining this new faith that dissolved that first possible Union, before Muhammad (AS) proposed to her family his intention to marry her! Now explain how a Under 6 years old daughter of a wealthy Makka was already ready to be married, and you did not complain about that, and you are having shortness of breath when the a new suitor proposed and marry her, after all of the above? Did you have a problem because he is a prophet or what, when being a prophet did not make him more tan wat he is; Human being to give us the example of natural living; reason am able to marry my wife Zainab who I easil
first of all,you and i both know that public outcry has never stopped mohammad taking any actions, remember the time the meccans complained about his highway robbery?rather than stop,he brought out a convenient "revelation"
when his wife was complaining about his closeness to the christian slave,what did he do?he brought out another convenient "revelation now. while ignoring the flawed and empty assertion of aisha which you have written up there to suit your arguments, ill provide the relevant verses to back me up
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him(muslim8;3309)

in the bukhari hadith,

Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age

it continues

Narrated 'Aisha:

That the Prophet said to her, "You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). 'This is your wife.' When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, 'If this is from Allah, it will be done

now you asked me if her father didnt complain,well he did and here is how mohammad was able to convince him to agree to it,

Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

as you can see, the man was hesitant and gave an excuse showing he wasnt cool with the idea,he only agreed when mohammad justified it with the quran and islam.

olabowale:
Man or woman who are married and gets involved in illegal sexual intercourse with somebody he or she is not married to, upon found guilty is bound to be stoned, if he did not call the wrath of Allah on self that the others did not tell the truth and he/she spoke the truth and was not guilty! If at stoning he/she declared that he/she dod not perform illegal sex act, as to say he/she id not guilty, then the prophet said the stoning should stop! This is Mercy and it is unparallel!


In a way which summarizes the moral behavior of a Muslim, Prophet Muhammed (saw) said: "My Sustainer has given me nine commands: to remain conscious of God, whether in private or in public; to speak justly, whether angry or pleased; to show moderation both when poor and when rich, to reunite friendship with those who have broken off with me; to give to him who refuses me; that my silence should be occupied with thought; that my looking should be an admonition; and that I should command what is right."
addressing the first paragraph,doesnt this account show how wicked and unforgiving your mohammad,and religion ishuhwhile you want to stone women to death for adultery,i dont see you stoning the man who she committed the adultery with to death,is that fair?
seeing as you have obliged me with some verses ill oblige you with some verses of the holy bible dealing with what our lord says about sinners

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption,[e] the forgiveness of sins
colossians 1;13-14

verse 21

21Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[f] your evil behavior. 22But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation

here the lord is saying no matter your sins,we are ready to accept you if the muslims want to stone you to death,

Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." (Matthew 11:28)

here,the lord is faithful and just to stand in the gap for us and show us m,ercey if we sin,

y little children, these things I write to you, that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."

the last one,

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
olabowale:
Now comes the second aspect.
Some people might ask this question also, as to according to Quran, 'What's in it for women if men are provided for, by over 70 virgins?'

The Qur'an, while referring to the rewards of the pious in the Hereafter, has categorically stated that: All persons - men as well as women - shall be fully rewarded for their deeds and shall not be wronged in the least (Aal Imraan 3: 195, Al-Nisaa 4: 124, Al-Nahl 16: 97, Ghaafir 40: 40); They shall get all that they may desire and all that they can ask for, as a first gift from God. His blessings would follow subsequently (Fussilat 41: 31); and "They" - (men as well as women) - shall have perfected mates/counterparts/spouses ( Arabic: Azwajun Mutahharatun) as a reward of their deeds (Al-Baqarah 2: 25, Aal Imraan 3: 15, Al-Nisaa 4: 57).

As should be obvious from the above points, there is absolutely no difference in the reward of men and women, as it is mentioned in the Qur'an. Furthermore, it may be noted that the Qur'an has not mentioned anything about '70 or 72 huries'. The Qur'an has only mentioned 'perfected spouses/counterparts'. The numerical value of 70 is derived from a Quranic commentary by Ibn kathir.

An interesting point to note here is that some people have criticized the Qur'an for appealing to the very basic needs and desires of man, which include his desire for taste in edibles and beauty and chastity in his partner. A seldom highlighted point is that Quran also exhorts all Muslims (men and women) to maintain a very high level of conduct on this Earth. For Muslim men, a very strict Quranic injunction goes like this:

"Tell the believing men that they should lower their gazes and guard their sexual organs; that is purer for them. Indeed Allah is well-acquainted with what they do" (Quran 24:30). Here "lowering of the gazes" means to avert the eyes from the unrelated women who pass by and not to caress the attractive features of women with the eyes and "guarding of sexual organs" stands for keeping oneself away from fornication, adultery or committing rapes. Such are the men, who are likely candidates for paradise.
while i will ignore the whole story story you have written,i oppose it with the hadith of mine as well,

"It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."(Sunan al-Tirmidhi ,hadith 2687)

as i have also written here,it shows the quran,mohammad,and sucessive islamic scholars are so confused that there are more contradictions even as the days go by, maybe we will find another abrogation in a couple of years who know, grin

i was ging to ask you,hope mohammad wasnt reffering to both male and female savouring the pleasures of young boys??pls clarify with relevant verses pls cause thats what iit seems to me,

i see, so if i am averting my eyes from all women,what ll i do on a summers sunny day in the middle of the rush hour when women are wearing bikinis?close my eyes and walk blindfold?? grin grin grin
dont you think the christian advice makes more sense?the bible tells us to have a circumcised heart,to pray for the holy spirit,in which case you will not have the urge or the inclination to think lustful thoughts,
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Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 6:32pm On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
You see what I was saying; true to form, even you said you respect women, but you refer to divorcee as "ajeku; left over", which is a derogative statement; what is a divorced man called, now? Divorce do happen in marriages, for many reasons, the out come of irreconciliable differences! Duuh. Your book, like "most other religions" have no respect for women! I think you have used this very statement "What most other religions", let us in to what your religion is; Hindu, Buhddist, Sihk, etc-like! And you have the strength to criticise Islam?
well,i am an individual,and i dont represent the whole christiendom do i?back to the topic at hand i used the phrase all other religions in the context of the time when patriachy was the order of the day which reflected on religion as well dont digree stick to the topic will you,as im not falling for that one
olabowale:
Your first mistake is your lie that Muhammad(as) is the author of the Quran. Everyone who knows anything about Islam and is honest about it, even if he/she is not muslim knows that Muhammad (AS) is not the Writer, but Allah! And when Jehovah or Eloi refused to accept the prayer of Jesus and opened the door for his hanging, did Jesus hang himself? The answer is no. I have used yor Goodnews to bring about the truth of Muhammad and adopted son.
without going into too much details,i beg to disagree, mohammad wrote the quran and it is obvious by the several human errors namely the contradictions and the several changes and abrogations that a normal human being trying to play god wrote it let me ask you is it possible for the supreme GOD to either make mistakes or reverse himself?it is a trick question and i will be waiting for your answer grin and the assertion about jesus christ and his hanging has been explained to you in the minutest details so i will avoid that
olabowale:
Your adopted son doe snot share your blood and its only your own desire that you claim somebody's son as yours. Allah stopped that evil and stupid tradition that must not b continued by Muslims, the last nation! I asked a friend if an adopted child is truly one's child? His answer was interesting until I said to him, should this aopted child marry his/her blood sibling just because they did not grow up together and not bearing the same name? He therefore realised that blood relationshipship is more important than the artificial which is man made like Trinity, Jesus god, Ghost god, father god statement of the children of god!
that is besides the point,so please answer my question without hiding under any rationalising explanations,
is it morally right for a man who claimed to be a prophet to take unto himself his adopted son's wife?

also,is it not strange and convenient for him that the supposed revelation came about just when he was looking to have the girl/woman to himself?
irrespective of your answer,show me where jesus christ did that,if you cant then isnt it obvious that jesus christ was morally upright than mohammad?
he never married,neither did he kill anyone,he never robbed and he never reversed himself on anything up untill now, food for thought for you m friend grin
olabowale:
Its sort like the evil and fictitious claims by your own desire you make about Jesus being a god or a third of gods, god, Gods, God! That idea has to be killed, the reason that Allah says that you people of the Book should not exceed the limit in your religion and ways of idealization. Jesus is not more than a human prophet! Trinity you should stop saying, and Jesus came by creation decree by his Lord in the same way as Adam and nothing more!
you are entitled to your beliefs,even though i will continually and repetitevly remind you it is a false ideology you are following!
olabowale:
And Jesus was unmarried, like John, neither of them knows a thing about wife, children, personal family! I only used your Bible to talk about what you dont know. The reality is that your Christian men get into every tail that can be lifted up. This is not to say that we dont have muslims doing the same, but a considerable small number, and the same goes for women situation.

Even the catholics who are not supposed to divorce and remarry, Senator Alfonso D'amato of NY State, USA forced this situation on the cardinal. Mayor Rudolph Guliani of NYC, USA never stopped until he had his way, a third marriage, one at a time! How many one marriages is too much while they openly keep sexual relationships before they become husband and wife? Godson my man, where is the girlfriend today? Am sure you are laughing and asking yourself which one is Olaboae talking about: The ones in London, or the crowd outside and we are not even thinking about the girls on the continebnt awaiting your Christmas period return!
the fact that jesus was unmarried validates our argument that he was much more morally upright than mohammed can ever be, he behaved like a true prophet while mohammad behaved like a normal human being,do you realise that all through jesus ministry on earth,he always tried to blend in with normal people,but all trhrough your mohammed's fraudulent ministry,he always made sure you knew he was a prophet, and used his powers as such,appropriating other ppl's wives to himself,killing,robbing and other human vices now you tell me why that was?
Christianity EtcRe: How Did You Gave Your Life To Christ? by GODSON2009(m): 5:50pm On Sep 24, 2009
noetic2:
dont u know she became a muslim cos of her boyfriend? grin grin
no wonder i have noticed she is more of ranting and shouting without any real substance, she doesnt really contribute much in the way of hadiths or quranic verses,just comments urging the likes of olabowale and co on at intervals grin
Christianity EtcRe: INTERVIEW With Ex-muslim Christian - Pastor Matthew ASHIMOLOWO by GODSON2009(m): 5:47pm On Sep 24, 2009
tubabie:
Yeah I know Evangelist Gboyega Shitta, his conversion testimony is amazing. 'Came around to my church some few months back.
God is still in the business of saving lost souls. . . . . . . . . .
he came to my church this last week as well,met him a couple of times and he said he prayed for his family to convert to christianity for 11 years which has happened,yes an annointed and gifted man of GOD
davidylan:
this makes me wonder if the average muslim is truly capable of reason.

uplawal makes mention of the "antichrist" but this is COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS in islam. Infact the "antichrist" is purely a christian concept! What does "Christ" mean in islam? Why is there nothing like an anti-mohammad? Where is the promise of the "anti-christ" in the quran?

Cant these people see they've been conned all along?
some of them know this,thats why there is that level of conversion especially in nigeria to christianity
uplawal:
All those people claiming they were IMAM before thier conversion were never sincere to thier GOD in the first place,even if they claimed to be practicing muslims,they never knew how flooped the bible has been,but just jumped into the normal trick of st paul and co,and alas,probably they dnt seek for more knowledge,so they obviously thought the BIBLE is the ultimate,O THE FAVOUR OF THIER LORD THEY HAVE DENIED,thats why its important for a muslim to seek for knowledge,inessence,there is devil indisguise in the christiandom making them veiw is geniue,and alas,they are worshipping the devil himself and not God,the devil has gone into the image of JESUS to them and to misleed them

That Mattew Ashimolowo was never a muslim in IMAN,cos a real muslim will never, i repeat, never associate partner with his GOD,no matter the condition,and wont go astray,cos any religion apart from ISLAM the TRUE RELIGION,will make you associate partner with GOD.
dont worry,the holy spirit will arrest you like it arrested the likes of evangelist gboyega and you will even have more annointing than born christians grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Did You Gave Your Life To Christ? by GODSON2009(m): 5:41pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
@sungod,i was more born again than you are foolishly now, insha Allah,i will remain and die as a MUSLIM and my family too will insha Allah come to know the knowledge of GOD in ISLAM,amen,the world cannot be a better place without ISLAM,my own defination of Jesus is not as urs,mine is a prophet of the ALMIGHTY GOD(ALLAH)and urs is urown dead god,what a shame
@the bolded
so your family are christians now? grin grin grin no wonder you r mega vexing, dont worry im sure they r praying for you like i am for the holy spirit to arrest you,like it has been arresting several muslims especially in nigeria,i am so sure of my faith that i have read the quran and hadiths e.t.c and the more i do the more i am sure of my faith,why dont you do the same as see if the holy spirit will not arrest you, its a challenge grin

anyway pls answer my question, i wont mind if you dont include a supporting quranic verse,a hadith will do,anyone

what is the reward of a faithful muslim woman like yourself when you get to paradise?
Christianity EtcRe: and Thou Shalt Neither Draw Nor Be Christian! Muslims 11th Commandment! by GODSON2009(m): 5:35pm On Sep 24, 2009
not only that,do you know that k.i.c.c s(pastor ashimolowo,the fasted growing ethnic minority church in the uk) former church grounds, which was involuntary appropriated by the hackney councill for the olympic grounds,has been turned over to the muslims for a mosque?

but the man's church keeps on growing,with the muslims in east london foaming at the mouth with anger
Christianity EtcRe: Adeboye's Son Romances Society Woman Leader by GODSON2009(m): 5:31pm On Sep 24, 2009
Abuzola:
Whats your question
the same one i v been asking without getting a straight unambiguous answer,

1.what is the reward of a faithful pious and upright islamic woman in paradise?surely your prophet couldnt have overlooked that glaring inconsistency considering the role women played both in his ministry and his bed grin

2.why is it that mohammad is surrounded by soo many controversies conserning himself,his ministry,his quran,e.t.c?

just added this third one

3.why is it that there are so many abrogations in the quran?if you agree that there is and it is necessary then will you agree your quran and your prophet is not infallible,however if you dont agree on abrogations,then explain to us why there is numerous abrogations in the quran?

n.b i can avail you of the verses that have been abrogated either by the quran or hadiths e.t.c

thanking you in advance.yours faithfully GODSON2009 your christian brother grin
herniec:
Abuzola, Huxley, Godson, it's another day. I wish you the best of this new day.
GOD bless you my brother,and the blessings of the lord be upon you
Christianity EtcRe: How Did You Gave Your Life To Christ? by GODSON2009(m): 5:10pm On Sep 24, 2009
uplawal:
yepa!
how did you,or how are you planning to give your life to jesus christ
Christianity EtcRe: INTERVIEW With Ex-muslim Christian - Pastor Matthew ASHIMOLOWO by GODSON2009(m): 12:59am On Sep 24, 2009
abuzola is seriously vexing o grin grin
im sorry but you too will be converting to christianity very soon,you ll be suprised when it happens who told you they r not muslims praying 5 times daily?

what of the evangelist shitta i mentioned,is he not a true muslim as well?
are your own family as popular in the islamic world in lagos as the shitta family are,they even have their own mosque in lagos island and the man was in line to become the imam of their family mosqueor are you saing the shitta family are not prominent muslim family in lagos?
you need to visit redemption camp on holy ghost night and you ll see how muslims are converting in droves,in spite of your trying to copy us as usual
1.hurriedly building an islamic centre on the lagos ibadan express so that they can have same crowd as churches there lol
2.doing night vigils and revivals
3.doing gospel songs like we do
still nothing is working lol
IslamRe: Polygamy by GODSON2009(m): 12:51am On Sep 24, 2009
dont worry patiently calm down for your paradise,im sure if women are shared out to the men at the ratio of 72 virgins to 1 muslim man then you are more than sure of getting married although you ll be sharing with 72 other ladies lol
IslamRe: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by GODSON2009(m): 12:45am On Sep 24, 2009
thank GOD for the girl's salvation,she is lucky she has not been married off,before the holy spirit arrested her
i knew after we conquered africa we r taking the gospel back to the western world,and recovering the lost ground the whites have lost to islam ;Dpraise GOD

@olabowale i forgot to ask you

what is the rationale behind the quran being in predominantly arabic?is it because you gys are ashamed of your book of nollywood storytelling and so trying to shield it from the general public

we know the original biblical language was greek and aramaic but these days the language is all but extinct,with the english version being widely in use
IslamRe: How Much Of A Woman Should A Man See? by GODSON2009(m): 12:38am On Sep 24, 2009
please enough of excusing female enslavement in the name of religious doctrines,let a woman or females have the freedom of choice if they want to show their hair ,arms e.t.c or not. this doctrine is quite absurd considering the fact that, mecca and medina was a very hot and humid place,why any individual would subject his wives to untold heat and misery in the name of protecting them beats me,besides seeing a woman's hair or arms is not the percursor to adultery, because it is in the heart, like the bible says

you dont have to commit adultery to have sinned,but mere looking at the woman lustfully and thinking unlcean thoughts is adulterous in itself,so the fact that you have your hair and arms covered will not prevent adultery or fornication.

if a woman was fat or slim or curvy,will the hijab cover that too?
if a woman had a heavy rear end or bossom will the hijab hide that?
if a woman looked sexy or beautiful,will the hijab hide it?
so what exactly is it hiding of the woman's honour olabowale grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by GODSON2009(m): 12:28am On Sep 24, 2009
olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #288 on: Today at 05:36:15 PM » Without wanting to waste too much time with you; Imagine a man alive immediately after the end of Noah's flood was to have been informed that there will be a time that China alone will be over 1,000,000,000 people, and not even paying homage to India and others, the man from the 24 people who survived the flood would have said that is impossible! This is your case, a disbeliever doubting a future that is the permanent future, a home for the successful, the Mercied and Forgiven, while the opposite is hellfire! What is the activities of the people of hellfire or your christian's lake of fire, if you know that will let us know that they are not having any fun comparable to the Muslim's paradise? Am sure that you will have to realise the truth sometimes in your lifetime before its too late!
is the bolded the only reasoning you can put foward for validating your 72 virgins for each male muslim theory? grin grin, dont worry i know the truth and it has set me free but because i love you and wouldnt want you to burn yor beards in hell fire i will keep on till i finally convert you,which will be very soon wink im sure you dnt even realise the holy spirit is arresting you little by little
olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #288 on: Today at 05:36:15 PM »

When you have 3 godpersons in your One God, I wonder how they come to a conclusion of where you end up, especially considering that in the creation of man, father didnt wait for the respond of son and ghost, and at hanging of son, he blames "father" whom he called conspicously "GOD!" You do have a big problem Mr. man. Your future is very uncertain!
while you r still on that i will keep on rehashing and dredging up my question as well,
why is there so many controversies surrounding mohammed?
what is the reward of the pious muslim woman in paradise?
tit for tat init grin

dont worry one thing i know for sure is that you and abuzola will soon be totally arrested by the holy spirit,you r not the first and you wont be the last you watch,you v not done as much as saul and GOD arrested him to start preaching the gospel
IslamRe: Is Islam Hated From Ignorance? by GODSON2009(m): 11:20pm On Sep 23, 2009
Nezan:
May be 70 slave boys? undecided
now now wont that be counter productive??anyway waiting for someone to shed more light, grin
Christianity EtcRe: INTERVIEW With Ex-muslim Christian - Pastor Matthew ASHIMOLOWO by GODSON2009(m): 10:57pm On Sep 23, 2009
alhaji,why r you drip[ping venom over only one person who converted to islam, i can say it without any fear of contradiction that pastor mathew was a true muslim before he converted, i know him personally,anyway he isnt the only one evangelist gboyega shitta a brilliant and annointed man of GOD was a muslim and a prominent one at that from the popular shitta family,in fact he was in line to be the imam of their family mosque, he is now a christian and has even converted his family from islam to christianity
OLABOWALE PRAISE THE LORD!!! grin

there are more of them o, pastor hamzat i could go on and on we r having fun on our side o olabowale,pls come over and try if you dare lol

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