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no sire,its not the best,but pls oblige me by answering the question

Abuzola:
This christians are so cunning, when it comes to sin they say every man will bear his cross but when it comes to jesus they say he only him die for the sin of million if not billion, hence he had carried away their sin. This is food for thought for the wise

where did this come from??lol
is mohammad or your imam bearing your own sins?

herniec:
It is amazing how we humans enjoy to see others fall so that we could have a feeling that they are not better than we are.I would like to paraphrase Charles Spurgeon: "Dogs won't eat dogs, but we humans tear each other down with relish." Small minds derive their sense of importance by looking for the falls and faults of those who are great. Pastor Adeboye is a man of God, not a God of man. His family is just as susceptible to Satan's antics as much as ours. In fact, his family is a special target. If we won't pray for him, then let us stop making an issue out of it.

brilliant,couldnt add any more!!!

huxley:
We would not be laughing at your face if Christians are not been in the habit of saying just how Christianity and Jesus had changed their lives.  I suppose this is a man who is under the blessings of all the prayers from his father and the RCC - what happened to all the prayers then?

ALL the PRAYERS that Members of RCC have been saying for the health and steadfastness of the GO's family have gone in vain?   Millions of GO members cannot say a simple prayer and stop this man getting his privates about?

what happened is simply that,nobody both high or low is immune from the temptations of the devil, the accounts of the bible while satan was talking with the lord says when the lord asked him where he has been,satan said he has been up and down meaning strolling all aound the world, the bible says he has come for nothing but to kill and destroy.

it would be incredibly naive of you to honestly think any christian family even in redeemed will leave their own children and families and then perpetually pray for the g.o's family, even the g.o will pray for his family first before anyone's.
how do you know the guy had not been warned"assuming this is a true story and not someone trying to yank our chains"cause im still waiting for a source, the g.o wouldnt tie him to a chair or  beat him up to accept will he?
also,go and find out,the devil always attacked the children of GOD's servants first so its not the first neither will it be the last

olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #285 on: Today at 02:24:31 PM » Godson if you believe what Kolaxy gave above as Paradise or "Heaven" as the reward, then tell Kolaxy to tell you the many fantastic stories in "Aworerin" Yoruba language magazine, or the Alawiyes, or the stories from Fagunwa and Odunjo and the likes. They are fact not, completely fictitious and easily imagines! Thats what you guys have put together from Revelations, etc.

But then as to the John Verse quoted, there must be a room in the same house for those who abrogated the laws and the prophets against the instructions of Jesus who came to fulfill them? He said they will be in the least: What is the least, not the palace or paradise but hell or lake of fire? No? Are you taking chances with your soul on this, espectially when Jesus will tell some of the mighty miracle performers in his name that he never know them. Where do you think these big miracle workers are going to be hualled off to; the least room in the house where lake of fire is occupying. No?

i think our own heaven is much more believable even looking at it from a practical aspect,than your own version where hundreds of millions of men will line up,behind them 72 virgins each and then the womenfolk from earth who are not virgins too milling about waiting for, what reward exactly??

well,if you check the other thread,i am not concerned about any man or woman of GOD as long as my own salvation is secured,,GOD said in the bible that on the day of judgement,we shall all be judged individually on our own merits and demerits

olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #285 on: Today at 02:24:31 PM »


First let me say the most sexist of religious Books is between Torah and Goodnews! The Torah blamed Women for all ills. Read what Adam says about Eve, then read what happened between Adam and hawa in the Quran and tell me who have no respect for women? As to the goodnews where women are merely not only to be silent but are either crown of the head to their husband or ther husband is the crown on their head, must be compared to the fact that Quran declares "believing man, and believeing women all will go to paradise; believing in Allah, making salah, giving Zakat, fasting, gong to Hajj and doing good" and the only time men and women are indicated separately is when strength was mentioned, unless you say thayt women are more powerful/gronger than man?

the fact that both the torah and the christian bible has been around before the advent of islam,is enough reasons to deduce that your mohammad simply adjusted the story to fit his own purpose at that time,it is not the first time neither is it the second,a glaring instance which i will keep repeating is mohammad's justification of the three goddess worship at the start of his ministry,which he nullified later in the quran, also i hope you are not suggesting that i believe your own quran and disbelieve my bible considering my version has been in existence before the birth of mohammed,and is without the contradictions and falsehood yours is known for??

what the bible said about women,is what most other religions say about women,which is that the man is the head, however the bible also said that the man must treat the woman as a thing of treasure(not in the exact words)moreover,which religion has allowed women to preach now?
to pastor churches?it is definitely not islam,because your women are still stuck behind the men eating the leftovers like the stone ages true or false?

few examples of the value the quran and mohammad places on women
1.they are objects to be traded as we can see mohammad's adopted son passing his "ajeku" to his adopted daddy mohammad, note this is not a hadith

Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed."

if mohammed is giving himself a blank cheque here,whose wife is safe from him at that rate?besides where is the respect being shown the woman in question?

Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you;

the bible says jesus christ told us to go without women,however if you cant do it,then cleave unto ONLY ONE WOMAN!!
(uplawal,over to you, )

olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #285 on: Today at 02:24:31 PM »

As to my knowledge of your bolded; I have been married and I do discuss sex with my spouse. I will still marry and I do have women in my life and men who are married, we do talk about sex, as long as we do not go against Isam! It is evidential that most african women see sex as just a means of reproducions, almost exclusively, so when they are not willing to make babies anymore, sex is almost rare in their lives, as young at 40something, even younger!

You dont know that, do you? The bachelor that is running after everything in skirt, maybe, but is not patience enough to find out what women want! You will not make a good lover when you marry with that kind of ignorance!

so the few women you know out of hundreds of millions of islamic women are enough to make a conclusive judgement on the wants of women?"that kind of though process is called"tunnel vision mind set" fr the sake of the children you will be bringing into the world,i will advise you not to have children even if you decide to have as many as ten wives because im not ready to foot any child's bill with my tax neither are billions of christian tax payers who only have one wife and at the most 5 children.

even if i dont know what women want,one thing i am sure of is that no woman wants to be collected like football jerseys,and hidden away in a back room,covered up from head to toe, im sure thats why uplawal can come online soo much seeing as she has nothing to do but stuck in a room all covered up all day muslim style.

im sure no woman wants to get married at 6 years old,and have sex at 9 years old.

im sure no woman wants to have some men to stone her to death if she commits a sin

and im sure every woman wants to have an opportunity to enjoy herself and indulge in whatever joyful stuffs her male counterparts are indulging in when they get to paradise,not the menfolk chilling out with 72 virgins each,and the females fanning them and giving them water and food to drink lol

huxley:
If this were in someone else's family, Adeboye would say that the Family Head (ie the Father) has left SATAN come into his family. He is in the habit of blaming all the mishap of a family on the father of the family.

If this is true, now is the time to examine his own teachings and his family's morals.

well,irrespective of what all his children might be up to,its no bearing on adherents of the redeemed christian church  or christians generally,because our salvation doesnt depend on pastor e a adeboye or his children as GOD has said it that we will all be judged individually irrespective of whose son or daughter you are, salvation is a one man race,everybody will carry their own cross on the day of judgement

@abuzola
[quote author=A_K_O link=topic=327570.msg4597177#msg4597177 date=1253714447]So Adeboye's son cannot romance someone again

A very unintelligent assertion.

Obviously the so-called 'Global Excellence Magazine' is simply preying on the shallow minds of some people to make money.[/quote]

sleek29:
@abuzola, go and start building something and stop witch-hunting[b] those who are doing somehing with their lives.

GET A LIFE MAN [/b]

herniec:
Great minds do not peddle stuff like this. I think you should get your mind preoccupy with serious issues. The fact is this kind of magazines are in town because of shallow thinking individuals. Minds that churn out great ideals do not feast on the kind of thoughts that drove you to post this subject. Anyway, you are just a fair slice of the avearage Black man who hardly engage his minds in resourceful reasoning. I do not mean to be insolent. I'm just stating a fact. Friend, advise you forget about this matter. Have a great day.

ypu see what you have caused for yourself??
so you want us to judge christianity and christian standards by the behaviour of one of pastor adeboye's children who i dont even know or care to know, how is that sensible or following any rational reasoning?lol

so what,i hope you realise that the christian salvation race is an individual one,its even in the bible in the new testament that we are all going to be judged individually,the fact that he is pastor adeboye's son or anybody's son or daughter does not mean the judgement will be connected in any way,so go and kill your thread which has no appreciable meaning

@kolaxy
thanks for saving me the trouble of dredging that up
@olabowale hope that has answered your question as to what my own reward as a christian will be in paradise,now to address your comments

olabowale:
@GODSON2009: Read the Quran again, even the translation that is the only thing you can read; the reward of woman in paradise is the same as that of the man in paradise. And since your archilles' heel in this issue is about sex, on earth women often get satisfied with the one husband, while men for the most part need more than one wife, the reason you GODSON, regardless of your own name hunt down all the easy and available nigerian, africans, carib, white women in UK, looking for your own, or living up your own paradise!

i disagree with you MATE,my concern is not about sex,my concern is about the obvious religious sexism involved in your islam not only that but even objectifying women as well,how did you or mohammad come about the bolded?did you ask the women or conduct some scientific experiemnt to determine conclusively?

you see what i am saying about your quran?instead of the supposed prophet to promote unity and peace,cohesion in your marital homes,he is funding the notion that a man needs more than one woman,how do you know the woman doesnt need more than a man to be satisfied? how many polygamous homes can you point to as being peaceful,with the wives having the best of timesyou see how absurd this argument sounds considering we are talking about the quran a supposedly holy book,and mohammad a supposed holy man lol

olabowale:
Now, Haurin means mate, and did not specify the gender, except that since we will be recreated, all people of paradise will be haurin, and will be connected to their own mate, for women and mates for man, being satisfied with each other and time, energy and enjoyment is at the peak! When you eat on earth, you get filled up or tired of that food, taste, texture, smell, look, etc. But the food of paradise will be different, always at the maximum in enjoyment, and each bite is better than the last, etc. Wife with her husband will be satisfied, because he will be her Hourin!

i hope you realise that the last line of the above statement,is you,your oga mohammad and all the muslim males being annoyingly patronising?
first tell me, why do you think a single man needs 72 virgins?after all you just said now that it wont be like it is on earth,so it follows that with only one woman you can be with her for eternity and not get tired, you see why i am having concerns and problems with that logic?

olabowale:
Now your question has been answered, go do some clapping, singing and dancing. Improvice if you will since no one band will play you the church music this late. Let me tell you, compare my Paradise with your heaven (there are 7 heavens, which one is for Godson2009), if we could bottle them and brng them before others to make choices, after a hard earthly struggle to worship and please the Creator, the Muslim Paradise is the actualized REWARD! I cant see anyone wanting to choose generically a place called heaven that all you hear is clapping and music? Is there anything worth while to do, like resting, seeing friends, visiting friends, a place of not hard work, but all rewarding as it is he longest vacation, eating, drinking, laughing and happy include sex which Godson2009 is alway hunting for in England?

im sorry sire,but my question is nowhere from being answered,all you did was dance around the question,and offer some patronising retort,

please in a few sentences,without being patronising towards the women, tell me the reward the muslim woman will enjoy in paradise independent of the man!!!i have been repeating this question to show you one of the biggest flaw in the quran, if your prophet has not outlined any reward for the women in paradise,you tell us on this forum a couple of reasons why any woman should be a muslim,

you have kept on repeating that they are your mothers,and will be with their husband, what of the unmarried woman or the woman that has decided not to get married?

the muslim heaven is the ideal reward "for a worldly person"maybe people like puff daddy,paris hilton,fela anikulapo kuti,mko abiola and the likes who are used to having sexual orgies,or to people who like their women being veeery young,but from a purely practical perspective it is obvious that any god who tells you,your reward will be unending sexual orgy with 72 virgins each has a lot of explaining to do, imagine hundreds of millions of muslim men lined up with 72 virgins each behind them, you see how disturbing that picture will look like?

now where will the women fit in again,behind or in front of the virgins you are allocated?

dont worry i am born again and broken,so the things of the world dont interest me anymore,including hunting for girls,drinking,smoking and the likes of the other vices you muslims revel in lol

Nezan:
I wonder why sunnis and shi'tes are always up against themselves. Olabowale should explain.

the reason is because mohammed started to actually believe he was a "real" prophet,
if you were heading a religious movement and you dont elect a sucessor or sucessors then you r believing that you cant or wont die forever
@poster
islam is hated because it is simply a religion based on fraud,contradictions,half truths and the hatred is frightening,
seeing as you are muslim and female ill like to ask you a question i have not found any muslim to answer

we know the faithful and obedient muslim man ,who practises both the greater and the lesser jihad is 70 virgins in paradise,now the question is ;
what is the gain of a faithful muslim woman in paradise?

mr abuzola lets flulip it over, i often hear a lot of muslims in lagos and elswhere swearing "to GOD who made me" or "i swear to GOD" does it mean that they r now christians?

[quote author=$osisi link=topic=322111.msg4591974#msg4591974 date=1253640833]I ask again
where does allah profess his love?
Is this not a simple question?
What right does the Nigerian Muslims have to borrow a Christ concept of the love of God and paste love of allah all over Lagos like people don't know that allah is a bearded man holding a giant hammer looking for who to strike down.
Why must you people be copy cats?
Is it not enough that you plagiarized the Bible and the Talmund in the time of Mohammed.
Why can't you folks be original and stop the deception?

Allah is love indeed
he loves to deceive [/quote]mohammad professed love when he wanted to marry aisha at 6 years old,
also when he was going to consumate their marriage after waiting patiently for W HOLE 3 YEARS

@post
i gave my life to christ in august last year,born and bred anglican with the attendant sunday sunday service,was a chorister e.t.c but it was more of a chore i had to do for dad's sake than really serving the lord,got to london and went off the rails clubbing,girls and what have you untill i met an old aquitance last year,he used to be a really bad guy as in fraudster,fighting the metropolitan police ,had multiple kids e.t.c you can imagine seeing him after a long time and he is not only wearing a suit,but completely born again,seeing visions and prophesying, to cut the long story short he preached briefly to me, and all i can say is that the lord took controll because all the stuffs i v either been too lazy or complacent to do before like going to church,midweek service praying regularly,reading and meditating on the word e.t.c was now coming to me easily,now i cant get enough of it.

i am a member of the redeemed church and serving the lord is now a joy to me now,the three days i  have dedicated to being in church seems inadequate,and i want the lord to give me the aunction to go to church  t least five times a week,i also want the lord to really use me and who knows i might be a pastor as my heart is ministering to me

why dont you put your focus on what he has enjoined us to do,and forget about his personality, do you read your books or do your exams in school based on the aesthetic beauty of the teacher?
im not interested in your assertions of either 3 gods or 1,point me in the direction of the new testament where christians have been told to do something bad or evil, the basic message of the bible is

do good,love everyone even your enemies as yourself,obey the words and commandments of god that is the focus not if jesus is god or not or if he wore a skirt or trouser,or if he had beards or not, which one of these commandments are you fullfilling in real life?

Abuzola:
I learnt nothing but gibberish. How can god die ? Who resurrected him ? Satan ?

go back to your bible and find out awaiting evangelist abuzola lol

uplawal:
@godsun1709,u made no sense,ure just too boring

really,you r the very fist girl/woman thats told me that,maybe its because you r muslim

uplawal:
@Alhaji, that chapter(suratul- IKLAS) is one of the greatest chapters,if not the greatest, the QURAN is so gloriuos that you feel peace when reading it or feel the presence of God,and none of it chapters is not worth reading or reciting,cos they are all so unique,unlike some book

alhaja,im sorry but i disagree with you,i have a copy right in front of me now the one translated by abdullah yusuf ali and i can tell you in all honesty that if i dont pray this night ill have nightmares of muslims with covered faces shouting allahu akbar and beheading children,christians, or just point me in an area where there is no cursing of either christians or unbelievers or where i wont find some word of pure hate and intollerance so that i can feel that peace you r feeling too

anyway how r you today,feel cool?i guess yes are you ready to answer my question as to what your reward will be in paradise as a woman?

KunleOshob:
What is the insult here did your beloved prophet not preach murder? Was he not a warrior? and did he not conquer other people and force them to convert to islam?

i tire o

Abuzola:
You claim to know islam yet you don't know islam history. The makkans tormented the muslim severely and the muslim didn't retaliate until later when the God instructed them to fight back

mr man,go and sitdown with your lies,the mekkans never ever tormented him, how many years was he living in mecca cursing their gods,and cursing them under the protection of his wife khadijah and the uncle the head of the hashmi clan?
even when the uncle died and his wife died in the same year,they didnt touch a hair on his head,even while he was ranting and raving remember he only had very very few followers so its not because they were scared of him, he ran away from mecca because he collaborated with outsiders to wage war against mecca, these days it is called "high treason"in virtually every nation of the world, u know me by now,if you want proof i will give you proof just ask

remember your prophet was the one waylaying innocent traders coming from yemen and going to mecca o, still yet,they didnt go over to attack him did they?

aaidel:
@ godson can you please state the verse or hadith where mohammed said to behead jews and christians because as i understand it the prophet said to the muslims to cohabit and live in peace with christians and jews and not to attack them unless they attacked them first because islam is a completion of the jewish and christian religions. Can you guys not argue constructively without resorting to insults? i recommend you both (abuzola and godson) to read a few of ahmed deedat's books maybe you'll get a clue as to how to engage in constructive dialogue between muslims and christians without resorting to animosity

excuse me sire,go through my posts(i v only done less than 130) you will find the verse where mohammed enjoined his followers to behead jews and christians and also to cut off their fingertips, olabowale and abuzola can attest to the fact that i have posted it on here just 2 days ago,however if they cowardly deny i promise i will look through my textbooks and personally type it on here for you again,secondly you are right about the quranic verse you have stated,but you see, what is known as"the sword verses"has abrogated all the earlier verses, including the one you have stated, in addittion go and look for a copy of sayyid qutb's milestones,he is one of the most notable islamic scholars till date and he will give you an indepht background,as i dont have enough space or time to start breaking it down and explaining,

most of my assertions,about mohammed and islam which you term as insults can be defended and have been defended, if i call you a criminal to your face,you will sue me to court for slander and libel,and i will be told to bring my evidence right?well then i have evidence which i have posted severally showing that mohammad was a fraud and that his quran is riddled with contradictions
i have called him a paedophile because he married a 6 yrs old baby girl and had sex with her at 9 years old.
i have called him a violent armed robber because he was robbing and divesting innocent traders of their money and wares when he couldnt do the backbreaking work in yathrib/medina
i called him a fraud because of the many contradictions in the quran, how can a prophet who supposedly came to liberate pagans/idol worshippers turn around to speak in support of them and their goddess? later he removed the quranic verses and nullified it,tell me is that not contradictory?

how can a prophet not once or twice hurriedly come up with"revelations from GOD"only when it will suit his selfish purpose, if u want i will give you two instances even one of his wives wryly remarked sarcastically to that fact,

now tell me where i have unjustly called him undeserving names

davidylan:
My brothers, by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ . . . the yesterday, today and forever . . . I DEY KAMPE!

thank GOD for that,everyone was starting to get worried when abuzola and uplawal started exchanging suspicious email addys lol

Abuzola:
Thank God you admitted it, alas

you mean admitted that mohammad and his muderous renegades acted on a violence which even christians did not?like davidlan highlighted in his comments to you?now pls enlighten us how come we never took up swords and start killing children and beheading yet mohammed took it upon himself

na wa for this muslim mujahideen o , if you r not afraid and ashamed of your islamic religion and prophet mohammad,then dont hide behind another username and pretend as if you r an atheist to throw the scent of you and avoid answering the many contradictiopns and lies upon lies in the quran, you dont see us hiding behind multiple usernames do you.

your very first post gave you away, an atheist will not hang on to one single point especially trinity,the issue you have raised has been the sore point with islam and the adherents,and you have betrayed yourself with that

Abuzola:
@gonson, there is no magic, jesus never claim to be god and its you who is twisting the bible in many passages such john 5:30 jesus claim to be powerless.


Who told you Love is absent in Islam huh ?

Hadith 24 of sahih muslim.
Narrated Anas: The Prophet said,'By Him in Whose hands is my soul,, no servant will have attained faith until he loves his neighbour' in another narration , until he loves his brother what he loves for himself'

thank GOD you mentioned that,further contradicting yourself, if mohammad enjoined you his followers to love his/her neighbour as oneself,why did he turn around to pour vitriol on unbelievers which we can all agree are in a state of ignorance?
its like beating a little child wh doesnt know his left from his right up,for breaking a glass cup.

if he preached love like you have highlighted,why did he enjoin anything called lesser jihad,or jihad of the sword?is that supposed to be a sign of love to behead me?

why did he tell you his people to behead and cut off the fingertips of christians,jews and unbelievers?

its like your mohammad is telling a primary school or nursery school teacher to poison or smash the head of any child who isnt passing with good grades against the wall right?

tayotoyin:
Please let's look at Jesus from this angle:
God is a spirit,He sought a way by which he could reveal himself 2 man thru a fellow MAN.He's like a voice behind a curtain.Hold on there!
The voice(spirit) behind d curtain now makes himself visible by PUTTING on FLESH & coming 2 earth thru d Virgin Mary(d Angel Gabriel had 4warned Mary of a miracle pregnancy)
Now,God in flesh(Jesus) didn't try 2 shakara by talking or preaching d very day he was born,BUT,like every human,he went thru all d stages of growth until he old enough 2 manifest d GOD IN HIM.
Jesus as a man prayed dt d cup should pass over him,but almost immediately said "not what I will,but what U(God) will" Mark 14:36,he uttered dt statement in flesh but his spirit man made him strong enough 2 say "not what I will, "
Another point dt is noteworthy is in Matthew 22:42-45,if Jesus was not Godsent,why would David refer 2 him as his Lord?
Yes God had 2 take away his face from Jesus on d cross cos "He was made sin,He who knew no sin" Jesus,who was already in d spirit saw God do this & he had 2 cry out 2 God not 2 forsake him, Mind u,it wasn't Jesus God turned away from,it was d sin on him He turned away from.Jesus said "no man can get 2 d father(God) except thru me(Jesus)
The trinity?
I can only explain it ds way:take 3 lit candle sticks,hmmm,NO,let 3ppl hold 3 lit candle sticks & join d flame 2gether,d result'll still be 1 tongue of flame. D Father,Son & d Holy Spirit can be likened unto dt single flame,they're 3 spirit entities dt work 2gether as one 2 control d universe.
@Deep Sight:Kudos 2 Judas Iscariot dt allowed himself 2B used by d in order for d scriptures 2 be fulfilled.
I rest my case 4 now!

brilliant surmission sister,i learnt more from this brief post so im sure abuzola who is willing to learn about christianity as evidenced from his posts has learnt as well pls keep this up and let us educate thesesinners and bring them to the side of light

Abuzola:
@gerald.
Exactly !

Jesus even encouraged buying of sword so that they can fight for God see luke 22:35-36

i see,but i guess the christians were too scared of beheading and killing unbelievers untill mohammad stumbled upon these verses lol
you shouldnt even be saying anything about violence because that ll be like shooting yourself in the foot, imagine mujihideen talking about violence,wonders will never seize lol
i told you yesterday that the holy ghost is arresting you little by little,so you v started to read luke,keep it up

anyway uplawal wants your email

uplawal:
@Abuzola,pls send me your email addy

do you want mine too,maybe you can aswer my question privately

uplawal:
shioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,hissed

whareva go and answer my question in the other thread i v been begging you o

Abuzola:
Godson- i love your ways of being prankish, hmmm. Was jesus not pierces on cross and didn't he die in pieces ?

for you to get the import of what jesus did and why he did it you have to first get an idea of what real unadulterated love means,which your religion does not teach, i understand why you find it soo difficult to believe anyone will just die for others maybe because you are slaves to your god and you will be slaves to mohammad and your god for eternity

uplawal:
and mind u, i dnt rely on them to help me cos av got my own ways,but they could help cos ISLAM makes us brethren,so my dear its not bad if they assist me in knowledge

thank GOD for that,so answer my question, is it really so hard to answer?olabowale a little help here pls brethren

olabowale:
@Godson2009: « #273 on: Today at 12:19:53 AM »


in no sensible order, you said? Please show us two consequent chapters that are completely in disagreement and they do not flow naturally from the former to the latter? Now that you have said that arrangement of the Chapters in the QuQumrans completely different from that of the Bible, if you can not find any fault in the arrangement of the Quran, then your Bible is 100% wrong. By the way whats your datum/yardstick for sensible arrangement of a thing that was the first and only of its kind, are there other Bibles or earlier bible before what you call Bible today? I guess there are the version will have to count since catholic Bible existed and Protestant Bible came later with "less books", so now tetell mehich one of them is correct?

And going to the Quran, since your intention is to compare them, then tell us which Chapter of the BbBibleill be comparable to Surah Iklas (Chapter 112)?

the satanic chapters which i have quoted like i billion times, even yesterday was and is cocontradictoryo mohammad's latter stance on idolatry isin't?

mohammad's stance on jihad of the sword(jihad as-sayf)he enjoins muslims to only fight defensively,then he later puts foward the verse abrogating all the other verses, i dont have time to sort that out now but go and read sayyid qutb's milestones and tell me he doesnt know what he is saying, be that as it may mohammad and his quran was contradictory in that sense

first he ingratiates himself to the jews, and he even said in the quran that they are not to be forced to be muslims, later on he turns round to say they must be beheaded and their fingertips cut off,true or false?

i guess you r right,seeing as the fraudulent quran was the first of its kind,plus mohammad was doing all the whole fraud and cooking up the additions and subtractions himself,i can imagine how muich work it was for him lol

ill tell you which bible is the real one when you tell me why mohammad was surrounded by soo many allegations and controversies, fair?

lol muslims, you want to plagiariseour ideals from where your prophet mohammad stopped right?lol

which one is with islam and organisation again? anyway go to c.a.c like the dude told you so that holy ghost fire will arrest you

uplawal:
what about your own that is arranged with uncontrollable contradictions and full of jargons,that u dnt even know how to distinguish jesus of mattew with jesus of luke, shame,men the contradictions is just too sicken,and pls dnt tell me to fish them out for you cos av been there before and just got tired of the generational lies,Alhamdullilah,mo dupe temi

alhaja uplawal, please answer my question,
if you cant let the whole world know what the reward of women will be in paradise after 50 years as a muslim,then im speechless, ill give you one last chance,please answer my question o, or call olabowale,abuzola,deepsight(your undercover brethren) to help you

noetic2:
what do u mean by "pieces"?

i tire o,

Abuzola:
Mr man why not answer my question and keep your story to urself

what question??r you sure you r not confusing yourself now?lol
i told you the holy spirit is arresting you bit by bit, thank you lord now you r reading the new testament halleluyah

uplawal:
@Alhaji,esha je kemi ma jaasi,eyin ke remain scholar wa ati IMAM wa,once again,welldone sir, imagine,one BIG DADDY, SUICIDAL SON,&THE LAST ONE ERAND BOY

im still waiting for you to tell me what the reward of good muslim women will be in paradise, is that soo hard to answer?okay please i beg you in god's name
@olabowale
i forgot to ask you,why is the quran arranged haphazardly and in no sensible order with the bible from genesis to revelations,everything is in order the strory follows each other even to the census and you can even corellate some facts in the old testament with the new but not so for the quran,its either verses are expunged for some reason,or one verse has abrogated others or something funny like that, thank GOD there was no tippex during the time of mohammad

saw this on sahara and it was really sad, nigeria is heading towards the situation in eastern europe,especially russia i just hope the editor who was his boss will have the courage to publish the news or expose the guy was assasinated for,because2 or three ppl will definitely have had an inkling of what he was working on,especially his immediate boss