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nedu2000: thank you (& golpen)for the insights,I have always had respect for muslims because of the positive impression I had from the people of mirnga(100% muslims)in Borno state,NYSC 2009 just before the crisis started. Its unfortunate & painful to hear of such intolerance like the killing/burning of churches from that state,thus my question

You are welcome bro... The thing is; we are all casualties of this insecurity we are experiencing. Putting up blames on a particular set of people or religion is breeding hate and adding more to our problem. If you don't know, then let me tell you.

Statistics has it that muslims have been killed more than any other religion during these BH attacks. The exploded public sites have muslims in them...just try to think of that. It is high time you go into the study islam itself, then you shall find the truth. I invite you insha Allah to this religion of peace.

jpiliya: Its obvious you are not looking at this issue the way I am seeing it if you read this you will have noted that non of you actually condemned the rest but just suleiman which was what I wanted you to see but that was not my main aim, neither neither would flogging them do, but correcting such right from time is what I want... even you too have noticed wrong practice amongst muslims.
one of those wrong practices is
1. insulting/decicrateing prophets of allah (which was the op)
2. Showing desparity amongst prophets
3. Puting ethnicity above (at the deptriment of) true islam teachings
4.etc
Yes correcting these and many of such would save the day @golpen some other wrong practices I see amongst muslim are: (though am not sure they are wrong but if they are not, forgive me for seeing it so
@empiree. Hop you wont see this as looking for trouble (lol....)
1. Using of charms and amulets (mixing islam with juju/Babalawo/some other deity)
2. Drinking arabic inscriptions as some sort of good luck charm ( I dont know if its islamic though)
3. Rejoicing over the demise (misfortune) of others (especially non muslims)
4. Ridiculing / inciting/ hateing other religions (many muslims do this which make me wander if islam teaches ridicule)
Many Many Many things I see and wander if ISLAM encourages all these (THAT WAS WHY I EARLIER SAID I WAS SO SO INTRESTED IN THE RESPONSE TO THE OP)

Well this I may say is because muslim tend to cover their wrongs with/by doctrines of the religion
You may not agree with me but muslim try to portray it as since they follow the footsteps of a perfect prophet mohammad they are equally doing a perfect thing ( even in their wrong doings)
And me personally I see it that since islam is not just a religion but a TOTAL way of life (that muslims live) then every thing they do(right &wrong) is islamic... which am not far from the truth except if you will tell me that many many muslims are not practiceing true islam which will mean hypocrisy (hell bound)
christianity does not recognize mohammad as a prophet (atleast his messages are not in the bible). So if the question is asked vice versa i'll say christianity does NOT condone/encourage/ support desecration of mohammad or any religion AGAIN in the same vain christianity does NOT encourage christians to raise head and shoulder in defense of mohammad or even Jesus when he is desecreted. Since mohammads' messages were not recorded by the bible I dont understand HOW a bible believeing christian (no matter how small) will believe in mohammads' messages which were not biblical.

I will never see any other thing except the fact that the acts of suleiman and his fellow who supported in the act then have been condemned and nothing more can be done. Any how else you are seeing it is making me to believe that you are becoming bigotic.

I'm even suspecting that you are a policeman with this list of yours. "One of the wrong practices", said you, but you went on to list four. Imagine your number four is "etc"...smh.

Your accusations of the muslims mixing juju with islam is found among most of your pastors also. The funny thing is that you should only follow your pastors' teachings if you find them useful, because you never can tell if your pastor does the juju you accuse muslims doing. They have also been caught drinking that arabic portion, using that amulet et al. What I'm saying is that it is the person and that's all.

Your fellow christians have been found feasting on the dead muslims in plateau state. Isn't that much more than rejoicing over xtians' demise? (Reference available on request)

Have you been visiting this islam section constantly? Please do, to see how your fellow christian exhibit their hate, ridicule against islam, then maybe you'll have to wonder if christianity permits that.

If you say muslims tend to cover their wrongs by the doctrines of the religion, then rev. King is a perfect example for you. If when muslims' wrong is portrayed as islamic, then you'll agree with me that rev. King's act is christian.

If the bible does not teach you to desecrate other prophets even if you don't believe in them, then you'll have to tell that to your fellow xtians who hang here illegally, a perpetrate the act you condemn. Fyi, I have a fwend who believes in the qur'an, yet remains an active member of the church choir. Would you love to ask him why?

Judek2: Answer my question, does Islam accept Jesus as sinless or not??..
this is the basis of my argument..

Your answer will prove me right or wrong.

You already made your assertion, why asking me? PROVE IT!! or PROVIDE A REFERENCE, you a blabbering. I'm not aware of the book where islam says jesus is SINLESS and you may love to tell me. Provide a reference or you prove this thing now o, before people make their conclusions about you.

Judek2: I'm so convinced, you implied I'm wrong, so I just need your simple answer..

How can you be so convinced to yourself. You cannot be right until you bring forth your reference(s).

tbaba1234: Is it not simpler to just say No? The guy has been on it for a few months and even the girl's dad spoke to her and she said 'I have not made up my mind".

I certainly don't have energy for mind games, if na me, we would have made a decision either way by now

I think I read it on an islamic piece that when a lady acts in that manner, it is a coy way of saying NO. When she is silent, depending on the looks anyway, it is majorly presumed she is saying a YES. I don't know if this is correct sha.

Judek2: Actually, I did not fabricate anything. I know better than to post what I'm not sure of.



Clear me please.. Does Islam accept Jesus as sinless or not??

You brought that up, so you better clear yourself now or else, people will start seeing you as...

nedu2000: criminals are found everywhere & perpetrated by people of all religions,but....when a hindu follower commits felony for example such a person did it,И̣̣̣̥ot in the name of his religion but due to his greed & lust,unlike the case of muslims who kill/maim/torture in the name of islam,why is this peculiar to islam?thank U̶̲̥̅̊

The question you have put forward is a very salient one and you have made answering it a very easy one by asking in that modest manner.

Let's take it from where you have started;

Criminals are found everywhere and crimes are perpetrated by people of all religions:- this implies that we are all human, no matter the religion or race and are equally naturally liable to commit crime.

When a hindu man kills or commits a crime, he does so because of his greed:- I'll agree with you here, but will also want to add some little point in correlation with the above. There's always a platform for every crime committed. A muslim who commits a crime is just like that of the hindu who does it out of his personal greed or frustration. The platform may just be a bit different. A fake pastor is a christian. He scams and extort money from people acting as a real one. We don't say. xtianity has taught him in that manner. It is simply put as a FAKE pastor commits this and that. But why can't we put it as the muslim person alone instead of attaching the act to the religion.

The reason is this; the tree that bears fruits receives stones. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, so nothing short is expected from the enemies of the religion in their various aspects varying from physical confrontation to conspiracy propaganda. I'll only urge you to study the religion with an open mind, then you shall see the truth therein. Thanks.

Judek2: If you accept he was sinless, what did you possibly believe that he wanted to achieve by being sinless?

There must be a reason for that.. Unless koran just wanted to make some fans by making such assertion.

I'm very sure you overheard this your 'jesus is sinless saying' because if not, I'm know you'd have giving your quranic reference of that statement. Please prove me wrong.

I think you better look into the facts of what you criticize before stumbling publicly here.

jpiliya: am not saying anything different here op asked does islam condones? now Suleiman was not the only muslim there.. suleiman desecrated allahs prophet jesus and did other islam practicing muslims condone it? YES why when op desecrated allahs prophet mohammad did (islam practiceing) muslim condone it? NO ...this is where am not satisfied with the responses you guys gave above why two different reaction to similar issue from SAME islam practiceing muslims why you quoted the quran that there is no desparity among all allahs prophets

suleimans act was not the only wrong acts in the op story those that threatened the op where also wrong (they showed desparity among allahs prophet which is against the quaran) what did you and others who responded to the op say about that? NOTHING. meaning you are ok with there actions... I have mentioned that I didn't want it that but that other muslims should just correct him (suleiman), which if they did would have saved the situation right from time that it wouldn't lead (generated) to the extended of the op desecrating the prophet mohammad.

haba the op clearly stated why he had to go report to the principal because he senced hatred from others who sided suleiman. well the truth is that I don't smell any ethnic flavor in the story though I wont deny its presence I just cant smell it... what I smell is religious flavor
1. the op was of a different religion,
2. he committed same crime as suleiman (by desecrating a prophet of allah) but op was at the receiving end because his crime had to do with muslims mohammad
3. suleiman was insulting op (kafir 'infidel') based on religion not ethnicity
true ethnicity might play a role but I feel you just use it as a coy to cover for their wrong mind you the principal was a yoruba man if ethnicity played for op why didn't it play when the principal (yoruba man) sided op and warned others against him.
Now you say others could have being ignorant then I too can say you and others who responded could be equally ignorant because you earlier said NOTHING against the ignorant people.

1. We have given a straight answer to the op's question, which has served as enough condemnation of their acts. You want anything more means you request that we lay them down to flog them, which you'll also agree with me is not possible.

2. I still maintain my stance that ethnicity has played a big role. The tribe in question (hausa) has been known to be triba-ccentric in every issue. The op will testify that almost the same would have happened if he had abused the emir because suleiman abused an oba, or better still if they both had ended up in a fight out of another issue. Bringing in the principal's case is backing my points whereas, making yours not constructive. The principal acted in a completely opposite manner from the students. Which may be taken as ;
I. He is yoruba thereby, not tribal about the issue. And/or
Ii. He has a better understanding of the religion more than the reacting students.

3. The problem most of you christians have is that you fail to understand that muslims are humans who could go wrong in some life proceedings just as any other human. Every wrong act of the muslim is portrayed as a doctrine of the religion, which is very incorrect. Christians have wronged me personally too and I've not taken it against the religion, rather, I treat the person as a case. If the same question is asked in vice versa if christianity condones the desecration of Muhammad (saw), we all know what to expect, but that doesn't mean that some xtians, no matter how small, still believe in Muhammad (saw).

I'll like to pend my words here. Thanks.

Judek2: Nope.. The Koran sweet talked him to ridicule.. In simple mathematics, its T+T= T.. But T+F= F.. (T = true, F = false)..

Christianity accepts him as the all true, that's why we worship him, the muslims accepts him as partially true, that's why they ridicule him.

What's the point? Accepting him as sinless, yet rejecting his purpose for bring sinless.. A black spot is easily noticeable in a white garment, a giant can be Toppled by a single stone.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by SWEET TALK ( to ridicule). I think wheels has answered the question and you'll never find a sincere muslim relegating the image of Jesus/Isa (peace be upon him) (we muslims say this at every mention of his name), so where is ridicule.

I understand how muslims, not worshipping him can be a plight in its sense to you christians, but the fact still remains to us that he is not God and so, doesn't deserve to be worshipped, like you'll never find it in the bible where he commands anyone to worship him. Thanks.

@jpiliya

Answering the topic of the op, which asks if ISLAM (not suleiman) condones desecration of Jesus (peace be upon him), I think that has been answered.

Each and everyone's view here has contradicted suleiman's act and I think that is condemning his act enough and has not backed his act up at any angle, we have even gone as far as apologising on his behalf and you still think we back him up. Putting up insults on him or his fellow doesn't hold anything.

In any of any of us' opinion, none of us were actually present at the incident to know if everybody present ganged up against the op, but according to the narration that we have here, I smell some ethnic flavour around. The fact that he is not a part of them in a wise has played a role in the case. Secondly, ignorance might just have engulfed the populace so I still put it as they are ignorant as suleiman. But the fact still remains that they were muslims that could have been better at understanding the religion. Thanks...

I don't really like us discuss issues here alone. May be we should try to make plans to start up something practical regarding what we discuss.

Just like the 'inspired by islam' project, which we'll all agree worked out as planned, such plans can be moved as regarding the crest agency. We may only need some more external hands, but is it possible we start something FROM HERE?

Hallie27: Jazakallahu khairan for your advice. I appreciate it.

Wa ayaakum, my sister. May ALLAH provide you with the very best of spouses and produce from you the part of best of ummah to come. May HE ease your distress and guide your steps to the best path, insha ALLAH.

Okija_juju: [b]Wow!! So Islam expressly forbids having a dog huh?!

Okay! here is where religion gets really funny. I'm sure the authors|editors|founders|originators of the Quran & Islam as at the time they wrote the scriptures only knew of two purposes for Dogs which were listed as;

1. Guarding Sheeps|Cattles|livestock.
2. Guarding Farms &
3. Hunting.

_{REFER:Sahih Bukhari 3:515,Narrated Abu Huraira Allah's Apostle said:Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily,unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle.Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet,unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms,or for hunting.}



As I read through this thread, and noticed that keeping Dogs is Haram _Sin in Islam. I also noticed that some muslims here have tried to expand the accepted usage of Dogs to include 'Walk dogs, Human guard dogs, e.t.c', but I'm sorry, the Quran was specific in its 'immunity clause' for owning Dogs, its says for Hunting & guarding Livestocks only! #PERIOD.


Now lets bring this Islamic doctrine to 2013 and our current ways of life. As at the time that the characters in the Quran lived & this book was written, They were mostly normadic farmers, cattle rearers, e.t.c.. Fast forward to Today, the use of Dogs have expanded way beyond just guarding livestocks and hunting.. Here are some things that the authors of the Quran could never have fathomed possible with dogs in the 0000B.C when they lived;

1. Pet: Dogs as pets serve a big purpose to mankind. Helps fight loneliness, depression and gives its owners companionship and happiness in some cases. This serves an important health function.

2. Service or assistance dogs: help people with various disabilities in every day tasks. Some examples include mobility assistance dogs for the physically handicapped, guide dogs for the visually impaired, and hearing dogs for the hearing impaired.

3. Therapy dogs: visit people who are incapacitated or prevented in some way from having freedom of movement; these dogs provide cheer and entertainment for the elderly in retirement facilities, the ill and injured in hospitals, and so on. The very act of training dogs can also act as a therapy for human handlers, as in a prisoner rehabilitation project.

4. Rescue dogs: assist people who are in difficult situations, such as in the water after a boat disaster.

5. Search dogs: locate people who are missing; lost in the wilderness, escaped from nursing homes, covered in snow avalanches, buried under collapsed buildings, etc.

6. War Dogs or K9 Corps: are used by armed forces in many of the same roles as civilian working dogs, but in a military context. In addition, specialized military tasks such as mine detection or wire laying have been assigned to dogs. Military Working Dog is the more formal, current term for dogs trained for use in military tasks.

7. Police dogs, also sometimes called K9 Units, are usually trained to track or immobilize possible criminals while assisting officers in making arrests or investigating the scene of a crime. Some are even specially trained for anti-terrorist units, as in Austria.

These are just some amongst many others, including; Entertainment dogs|Show Dogs, e.t.c...

_{Culled from Wikipedia}


So now...

Is Islam saying that these other uses for dogs are also HARAM?!

I read where someone said that you can keep dogs, as long as you keep them from eating Haram and away from where you pray and also that you remove all your clothes that must have touched the Dog before you pray. #FINE! But what about those blind Muslims with service dogs that helps them navigate and hear?! How should they manage?!



Anyways... Heres my take.

We cant live our lives by rules set down in a period where an Abacus was not even an invention. Dogs have been found to be Mans best friend indeed. They have saved more humans than they have killed in history. They have evolved so much since the days of the Prophets of Islam|Christianity that all that is left is for them to be able to speak and then they become the perfect animal companion.

The fact that you own dogs will not stop you from entering Paradise. I'm sure that Allah doesnt mind that we own Animals or associate with animals.

So if you love dogs, then go get yourself one. #THE ONLY RULE YOU HAVE IS TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT... SImple.

Allahu Akbar

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I must say I sincerely like your dog classification only I think you're getting it wrong somewhere.

I'll like to start by telling you that islamic laws, if you look critically into it, blends with all aspects and periods of life and the thing is; when islam approves or forbids a thing, there's always a logical reason behind it only if one lacks the awareness...

Now when you have cases like that, previous similar incidents, in respect to the Qur'an, sunnah and haduth are referred to in order to give fatwahs for the new age happenings.

In your own case, there are some classification that are baseless, like keeping them as pets, entertainment et al, but on some other reasonable cases, better options may be sought instead of using what Allah prohibits. How many blind men walk on your street with dogs as their guides? This means blind men can survive without dogs so using dogs as guides may be disliked. Rescue dogs may be approved provided IF their no other means of rescue.

Bottom line; the use of dogs in a baseless or an absurd manner is prohibited, use in a necessary manner is disliked if there's a close replacement, and use when no other option is available may be allowed.

Peace.

Hallie27: I think I am in trouble. My family wants me to marry a man. He is a muslim and his family also,but he dislikes hijab,and prefers the very short ones on smart skirts and pant trousers. I think living in UK for a long time is also a determining factor for his preferences,and he's also like if I want to live and work in uk With him,my mode of dressing won't be allowed over there. Subhanallah,I can't dress that way,I love my hijab,I love the way I cover myself,and I want to have mu'mins and mu'minahs as children mashaa Allah,but my family feels am being 'excessive' in practising my islam. If I had someone that's ready for nikkah,quite 'presentable' as they wish,I would have being able to refuse easily,but now,I don't,and if I take anyone home that does not meet their level of 'presentability' or 'status',he won't be accepted. I want someone that will encourage me in the deen,preserve my hijab for me,work with me to train my children in the pathof Allah,and take me with him to jannah mashaa Allah,but now I don't know what to do. Should I reject outrightly and incur the wrath of my family,damning the concequences?

Salaam sis...

I don't think it's trouble, but rather a challenge. It is true that it is very wrong you marry someone who enhances not your deen, but your family ties is also as important.

The first thing I suggest that you do is pray to ALLAH for guidance and easy troll through the challenges. I'll suggest you keep your opinion on the issue afloat (sit on the fence) at first, then with serious maturity and complete humility, you discuss the issue with your parents, starting from the more listening between them, making them to see the harm in getting married to a man who is not deen conscious as to the benefits of marrying a deen enhancing man.

Then pray to ALLAH for a better spouse in everything than the man in question and I'm sure you'll just find. All these may seem not so easy, but ALLAH stays with the patient.

showietee: Why the focus on this? #Soq

Sister, most times it doesn't usually happen as an initial plan. It could arise due to unforeseen contigencies.... Its usually an offspring of current happenings.

But for he that has intend to do so from onset, he applys maturity when asked. “maturity“ (my view)

And like seriously, I think it goes beyond the self will of a man to marry one or more wives. I rather think it should be done if there's a genuine need and if the man has all the requirements needed to uphold such family.

For me, I'd rather not marry a lady if she'll be repulsive to polygyny at any stage. I may just contact the need.

tomakint: @ lanrexlan and golpen, I can only pray for you two that you shall be redeemed from these gross confusion you are deeply enmeshed in and may the blood of JESUS you so much despised set you guys and as many of your ilks free from this BONDAGE you are entangled in! Trust me, that name, JESUS, truly sets free!

If you can't still understand simple logic, then I wonder what you'll understand. Just note; if Isa meets you here on earth in his second coming or you meet him on resurrection nd you start calling "Jesus, Jesus", don't be surprised if he looks just barely at you and doesn't answer. That's not his name.

Hmmm... @lanrexlan, may ALLAH bless you in the most imaginable and unimaginable ways of blessings. I wonder why @tomakint is looking for a calabash when he makes me think its right tied to his neck. I'm sure he doesn't know anyway, he can only know when he realises that there is nothing like a /J/ pronunciation in the hebrew or aramaic(the native tongue of ISA). He can only be aware of that calabash on his neck when he realises that ALLAH/ELAH/ILAH (which has closest pronunciations) is the simple word for the one GOD in hebrew and aramaic.

The paul and other english speaking scams must have put that calabash in his neck by the means of their skillful fabrication. Ask yourself these questions @tomakint so you may be free;

1. Then where did our pastors get the /j/ from? What is the original pronunciation ?

2. If ALLAH is the pronunciation reering to the one GOD in this tongues, then what must have Jesus called his GOD, refering to him?

I just hope you stop looking for the calabash and get your eyes open from somnumbulistic drunkeness.

bukatyne: Excuse me

you'll never understand.

olori kan: I'm partially new in this forum in that it's been long i logged into Nairaland and it took me time to re-activate my account, Alhamdulillah!. Abdusalam Hikmah Kehinde is my name, a 400L student of Zoology, University Of Ibadan. My aim on this page is to propagate the teachings of Islam in sha Allah. Salam alaykum.

W/salaam Hikmah... Imagine your poem about the girl's heart desire's become admirable by fellow muslims here, alhamdulillah you are highly welcome.

bukatyne: golpen,

If you cannot contribute meaningfully to a discourse, you steer clear of it.

I did not see the correlation of his post to mine and I am expecting him to explain. If you care to explain, I will appreciate it.

@bolded,

I hope you noted the warning in red. I am sure you have not realized that the Islam has been changed to any religion

It is you who needs to read and re-read if it takes you to do so. You don't mean you still need an explanation after how comprehensive he has replied you. Ok here is the explanation, hope you get it right this time.

You mention people with different cultures maintaining their core values as christians despite being their respective igbo, hausa or yoruba and so on, but let me put it that christianity has no ruling or guidelines about some situations that bring men together irrespective of the tribe and race, that is why it is grossly affected by civilisation and the indecencies that come with it.

Try answering the question on his post again, then you shall understand better. And if christianity truly has no answer to all that, then how is it a baseful way of life?

bukatyne: Dude,

I imagine a Muslim arguing with me if Christianity is a way of life or not with courage.

Talk of saying nonsense with boldness...

When you quote me esp. in religious matters, speak English.

Is that the answer to the questions he asked you? I don't know what english you expect, but I don't think I read any spanish in his words. You accuse him of speaking with courage when you couldn't nullify his claims. You better keep up shut if you don't have any viable response and if I must agree with you that christianity is a way of life, then I'll say it is a baseless way of life!.

In the name of ALLAH, the merciful, the beneficient.

This article is completely strictly from my own perspective and initiative. Any faults therein is completely mine, while all applauds belong to almighty ALLAH the lord of the worlds. May ALLAH forgive my shortcomings as I write and yours as you read.

Qur'an 2:47-61 talks about the jews and several of God's favour on them and how ungrateful they were. The deliverance from pharaoh, who sets them hard tasks and punishments, who slaughters their sons. The division of the red sea, saving them (the jews) and drowning pharaoh and his men. The appointment of 40 days for Moses and how they moulded a calf as their god. Their being dazed by thunder and lightning and then God woke them up.

Sending down of Manna and Quails from the shade of clouds, the water from the spring during thirst and allowing them into a town in order to fill them.

And what did they offer to ALLAH in return?, ingratitude!

They got several privileges to be grateful but instead, they brought a calf as their god, they went against ALLAH's commandments and then Musa said to them "O my people, you have wronged yourselves by the worship of the calf, so return in repentance to your creator", but they refused. Imagine they were the beggers who made choices. They would demand comfort in their times of distress from a GOD they never believed in and would backslide whenever they got what they wanted. So they dipped their fingers into the boiling pot of soup. They protested not to want to eat a single kind of food always. They wanted to eat from what the earth grows. They wanted to farm out their own different species. But Musa warned " will ye exchange the better for worse?" And they wouldn't listen. They wanted to replace the better with the worse, and he ordered them to go down to any town where they stressed and were covered with humiliation. The wrath of ALLAH fell upon them, because they rejected HIS signs and kept on transgressing.

Relating this to modern civilisation. The freedom granted upon man and his curiosities and his ever consciousness and comfort have all contributed to the absurdities that comes with his improvement in the aspects of his life, which is all known to be civilisation.

Civilisation should always and only be welcome if it goes along with the BETTER which ALLAH has blessed us with but it seems the reverse is the case.

The better is that our ladies dress covered up from their unclothedness, hence they portray a modest external beauty and a beholding internal gorgeousness to their rightful husbands, but what have we exchanged it with? Banning the better dress style in france, caning corporally a student in it and awarding the fashion of nudity as the best. The lady on the better side is not attractive as that on the worse.

Part of the better is that we mate with our rightful partners and bear righteous fruits, but some man have replaced it with homo acts, while some have made it a point not to benefit from that which has been made lawful to them, but to stay alone amidst their erections.

It is better to trade with authentic measures, to deal justly in our riba free transactions, but men have found their solace in the reduction of measures and grow fat eating riba.

Isn't it better to make dialouge our key to resolving issues and shun unnecessary uproar, but despite the intelligence being granted upon us by our creator, the world leaders have turned the earth into battlefields out of their share greed.

when the jews wanted to leave the comfort granted unto them by their Lord for their adamance, they met with humiliation and the wrath of GOD. See our society has been polluted grossly with furnication when we have, out of our own instinct, set a certain age for our ladies to marry even when they are full grown. See the 12 13 year olds on the streets in pot bellies out of matrimonial protection and every parent has to fear that for each of their daughters. See the STDs we have brought to the world by our indecencies, when we chosen to leave the decency made available for us.

The world economy has been destroyed enormously by riba at the top and trading with false measures below, but with all these that we have brought upon ourselves, the question is;

Are we still going to exchange the better for the worse? Or replace the lawful with the forbidden?

And just like Moses said to the ancient jews, "we have really wronged none but ourselves by the worship of our instincts, deviating from the teachings of our Lord and the prophets.

ALLAH said in the Qur'an;

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

Did I not charge you, O children of Adam! that you should not serve the Shaitan? Surely he is your open enemy, And that you should serve Me; this is the right way. And certainly he led astray numerous people from among you. What! could you not then understand? This is the hell with which you were threatened. (36:60-63)

Moses told his jewish umma about the need to turn to their creator in repentance and good deeds, adhering to the better, for there and then, they shall find peace. Do we need anything short of this to find our own peace?

deols: The question is already answered but I just want to chip in that a Muslim who does not believe in prophet Isa has not completed his faith.


If we revere him to that extent, it is already obvious that a Muslim who speaks ill of him is an ignorant one.


I want to believe that the Suleiman was just a bully like any other that you'd find in a secondary school. He should never be a good example of Muslim.

Suleiman might just have come to realise his past mistakes and have come to understand that bullying his fellow student/colleague regardless the religion or race, and insulting the high prophet Isah (A S) is not allowed in islam.

@OP, we're sorry on suleiman's behalf, and like the answer you have got, islam teaches that all prophets of ALLAH be loved and emulated. Thanks.

I think the OP requests Explanations rather than arguments, but I have a flat battery now. Fellow Brethren can please help, pending.

I have always said it, and I think I'll say it here again...

They will always flop up because they don't understand the islam they are against. That is why when some of the logical ones amongst them get the chance to make their findings, they are not left with another option than become a muslim.

@OP, your point of people being muslims by birth is just a half, while a sizeable percentage of modern muslims are converts too. Maybe you should try to ask them about their experience and what they've found in islam. I'm sure you'll be convinced, getting to know islam. Peace.

@brokenbars is not a muslim, I want to be sure. A muslim will rather not wear the hijab unless she understands it. Putting up a case like this, acting as a victim of the religion is one of several ways the xtians use against islam. And you can see their corpse's legs will never be covered, their ignorance about the understanding will always show. Will a muslim lady ever imagine that muslim women are being forced to wear the hijab by their husbands?

kayword: That man can really express thoughts. Its as if he's a hijab sister himself. So beautifully written...thnks tbaba

Seriously, reading the poem, I thought its a sister. I love the writeup anyway.

maclatunji: ^Am I liking this poem from a literary perspective or from an Islamic perspective. I guess it is both.

Imagine I just saw it and I had to follow dawahnigeria sharp sharp.

Alhamdulillah;

I think plenty of our sisters are getting out of being apologetic, at least they're rolling it . Our campuses have stopped being the stigma zone it used to be for the hijabites. Now, in their own serene halcyon, they have gone a long way to make people know their capabilities. You see them topping the classes, winning competitions and speaking publicly, without a sense of intimidation.

They really improving more than the brothers, I must say.