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alBHAGDADI:
I find it funny how people who aren't even saved are now positioning themselves as Bible teachers. They think the Bible is some novel anybody can pick up, read and understand. They don't know that it is a spiritual book meant for those with the spirit of God in them. See what Jesus said about the Bible:

John 6:63 (KJV)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

You can't understand them unless you are born of water and of spirit which means you are born again. Till then, you are just a natural man who will always misuse the word of God or find it foolish.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It's just like a Yoruba man complaining that he doesn't understand Chinese language. But a baby born to Chinese parents will understand it easily. Once you have the Holy Spirit, you will understand God's word which is Spirit and life.

Why did I go into the above details? The man in the OP believes he understands the Bible verses he quoted which speak of the law. The natural man he is sees the verses as saying the law has been done away it and has been thrown in the trash can, never to be followed or obeyed again. That's how a natural man reads the Bible.

Before I show you how a man with the Spirit of God reads the Bible, let's first of all expose the foolishness in the natural man's understanding of the verses he quoted.

According to him, the law has been thrown in the trash can because Jesus came, died and resurrected. If the law has been thrown in the garbage, kindly tell him to break the laws in Leviticus 18, which are mostly against having sex with one's close kin e.g mother, sister, father, brother, aunt etc.

Romans 4:15 (KJV)
for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Since he says the law is no more, isn't that also saying that it is not a sin to do those things? Let him go ahead and do them.

He quoted the below passage.

Galatians 3 vs 10 - 13
10 For all who rely on the works of the laware under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e]11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

Clearly, he doesn't know what the passage is saying at all. To him, the passage means if we obey the laws, we would be cursed.

One thing I would want you all to know is that the passage is talking about those relying on the works of the law as a means of eternal salvation. Paul is clearly saying that if you are depending on your ability to obey the law as a means of making heaven, then you are cursed. You are cursed because you can never continue in the entire laws without breaking one. You can't at all. See what Paul said:

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

As seen above, Paul revealed that even if you keep the whole law and failed at just one, you will become guilty of even the ones you succeeded at. That is the curse of the law Paul was talking about. That's why he made it clear that depending on the law as a means to salvation is like cursing yourself to eternal damnation.

So what's the way to avoid depending on the law? The way is Jesus Christ who is the Way the Truth and the Life. You have to have faith in him to be saved. That way, there won't be any need to depend on the works of the law. As seen below, Paul said we are saved by Grace through faith, not by our ability to do the works of the law.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


So far so good, we have seen that we Christians are to obey the laws of God unless in cases where they've been specifically changed in the New Testament e.g dietary laws washing, worship, animal sacrifice etc. The anti-tithing can't show where the law on tithing has been specifically changed in the New Testament.

We obey the laws to live right on Earth. The laws have made us realise that it is sinful to sleep with one's next of kin, have tattoos, be homosexual etc.

But when it comes to salvation, we don't depend on the law because Jesus has come to save us from the curse of the law which hits us when we fail one despite passing the rest.

Find a Once Saved Always Saved Church today for more knowledge.

Didn't I once told you, you are confused as regarding law and grace? You want to preach law and grace to Christians, learn the basics to separate law from Grace, and you will see CHRIST

If humanity could have saved themselves by works, there would have been no need for the Grace ( the gift of God) which is Christ.

What I understand from scripture is, there is nothing like covenant day of vengeance as it is being preached by Oyedepo.....it's all mental gymnastics. Shalom!

Just seen this thread and would love to know MuttleyLaff my brother stand as regards.... HOMOSEXUALITY not homesexuals now....soooooo....I'm following!

dumbiri99:
Do you advice i go for third in abuja, i hhave been denied twice in lagos. Someone said i should go to abuja that is quota based and people are too much in lagos. But i have tuition scholarship and am still scared. Scared of lagos and scared of changing interview location too

It all depends on few things you have to consider....the gap difference from the last time you're denied, what has changed? On what basis were you denied etc....you can shoot me an email so I can ask you questions myself and then see how I advice you.

dumbiri99:
bro you said you were denied us visa three times in one of your posts, please, did you do all your interviews in lagos. I want to apply a third time next month

No, I had my third n final interview then in Abuja, the third time I was approved n that was since 2007 or 2008. Wish you good luck

MuttleyLaff:
"⁸Then the word of the LORD came to Elijah:
⁹“Get up and go to Zarephath of Sidon, and stay there.
Behold, I have commanded a widow there to provide for you.”
¹⁰So Elijah got up and went to Zarephath. When he arrived at the city gate, there was a widow gathering sticks.
Elijah called to her and said, “Please bring me a little water in a cup, so that I may drink.”

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And as she was going to get it, he called to her and said, “Please bring me a piece of bread.” "
- 1 Kings 17:8-10

Good. I thought you did but didnt want to just assume.

FYI, the widow of Zarephath, was previously advanced told by God, to get food prepared for Elijah, and that was before Elijah even turned up at her house.

If thats the case, then why should it not make sense to her that the moG was asking for food? Didn't God say He had already spoken with her (i.e. commanded her)?

Otabil and his analogue interpretation, as I earlier said, there is nothing senseless and utterly stupid in what or how Jesus taught, neither were the described scriptures in the bible used by Jesus bordered on foolishness. What Jesus did, was employing hyperboles, as in, figure of speech that uses extreme exaggeration to make a point to show the seriousness of an important lesson and/or show emphasis.

If I say, I am so hungry, I can eat a whole horse. You dont really believe, I can eat a whole horse, do you but you do get from statement, my point of how ravenously hungry I am. That is hyperbole for you, showing the seriousness of a matter and placing emphasis. It is not to be taken literally, but the point is made and understood

My brother, we can do a little gymnastics here or use different methods to solve same problem but I'm actually going to bed now. However, it still won't make sense...if I was the woman and I was told that by God, it won't make if the same God can just do miracles for the man of God.

While will Good take what I was going to eat with the child and die and if in facts God told her ahead of time, she should have just said oh welcome man of God, I have been told you will be coming and here is the food for you?

The whole scene won't make sense but in the end of it from the results, it makes a lot of sense that the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisest of men. It makes sense that obedience is better than sacrifice and it makes sense just like Peter, nevertheless, at the word....

MuttleyLaff:
Otabil, made a right dog's dinner trying to pass a message. There is nothing senseless and utterly stupid in what or how Jesus taught, neither were described scriptures in the bible bordering on foolishness

Goshen360, elaborate how you mean by the emboldened above please? What moG? Why wouldnt and didnt it make sense to prepare meal for the moG?

I was referring to Elijah to the widow in zaraphath

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I wasn't saying it was YOU that equated my comment with being a parable, I was saying it was Olaadegbu who did that which I understand what YOU said in your response to Ola.

2. The scripture you're quoting agrees to what I said and in a way you agree that using PARABLES was a deliberate choice adopted by the Lord..... again, parables was used to communicate to low IQ people of those time AS REGARDS SPIRITUAL MATTERS OR TRUTH......but to YOU OR US, it is given to UNDERSTAND the mysteries of the kingdom.

In other words, Christ can teach the spiritual truth TO THE APOSTLES without adopting the use of PARABLES but the PEOPLE OUTSIDE couldn't handle it so he has to use parables to water it down and make it like milk for the babies. So YES, those religious leaders of the law, priests, etc are people of low IQ AS REGARDS SPIRITUAL MATTERS AND TRUTH. It's one thing to be knowledgeable in religious laws, be a chief priest and etc but knows nothing about spiritual truths and matters as even as the laws itself that such teachers of the law teaches. Just like saying, being a secular teacher of CRK doesn't mean that person knows spiritual truth contained in what he/she teaches.

PS: I no dey use more than 2 weeks anytime I go 9ja because of job and bills....both don't wait

1Sharon:
Christians already know deep down those things are foolish cos they never practice it

Like a big fućk you to god

He or she that's not with us is against us and would rather do well to leave us alone. The preacher was passing a message across in context not to make a mockery of the scripture verses.

For instance, it doesn't make sense to me either when this moG said to a dying with with her child to getting ready to eat a last meal to prepare that last meal for him the moG. If any man of God does that to you, I believe you either stone him to death or curse him out....

MuttleyLaff:
Please cut a sincere man going about the Father's business some slack bro, at least he credit the post and didnt put it forward as if from him. Dont let your furtive tiff and what you've in the past, disagreed with OLAADEGBU, get the better of you and just be like that, having a dig at him nau bro. Meet me down, immediately below anyway so we do this together.

"¹Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives,
²but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them.
³As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd.
⁴“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
⁵The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
⁶They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger.
⁷They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”
⁸Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
⁹When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman.
¹⁰Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
¹¹“No, Lord,” she said.
And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”"
- John 8:1-11

Fair enough, the woman caught in the "act" is the representation of the church of Jesus, as in, that's why she doesn't have a name mentioned to her, right? Hmm, but have you ever thought, why doesnt the woman have a name? Why wasn't a man caught in the act with her or why wasnt there, a man caught in the act with her?

Well, this whole matter Goshen360, simply points out to, this was a set up, to get Jesus, as the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees were a wicked and desperate lot, running out of patience with Jesus and so an innocent, home alone woman, was dragged out of her bed to the "market square" and deliberately made to look guilty for a not real and present sin.

The adultery charge against her was an invention by the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, created in order to deceive. This is why there is no and/or was no man was caught in the act. It, altogether and all along was a fictitious adultery act she committed. The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, fabricated all this, based it on false information, and so this woman was falsely accused of doing something wrong that has a punishment of death by stoning. This all just done, in the quest to trap Jesus, get Him into trouble, a dilemma, vicious circle and/or in a tough nut to crack situation.

The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, with stones in their hands to ready to unleash, eagerly waiting Jesus' judgement, obviously were saying amongst themselves, "He is not going to say she hasnt sin, would He" and "or is He going to now", they probably thought too.

The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, believed they have got Jesus in a tight corner and/or spot, that is not easy to escape from and that they have given Jesus a difficult John 8:5 question and perplexing problem He wouldnt be able to resolve. This was a practice session for the teachers of religious law and the Pharisee, as they later and eventually became very skilled and proficient at setting people up, on trumped up charges and be sentenced to death, that similar, in the end, was done to Jesus too.

Even if there was a man caught in the imaginary adultery act, isnt it ironic and typical that he was allowed to escape and so be let off the hook and noose. Anyway, Jesus being all-knowing, all-wise, all-seeing saw through their whole charade, fraud and monkey busines, so no harm came on the woman and the rest is now history

Softly, softly ooo, no, not knives nau bro, please dont bring out knives.

If we go check out Luke 14:7, Luke 15:3, Luke 16:1a etcetera, we'll see from them, that Jesus, told quite a sizeable amount of parables, varying in total, between a number of 45 and 60, and that they usually have a plethora of lessons and moral truth in them.

As most parables, usually are, a good amount of them, actually are a faithful representation of reality. They at times are told, as a story, with verisimilitude characters having actual or real human being's name. Case in point, Luke 16 has a parable mention, with the Rich man & Poor man named, Lazarus characters, and so Luke 16 is an example of parables with verisimilitude characters and where a charater's name is mentioned

My brother, longest time.

First of all, I didn't have ANYTHING against Olaadegbu. My only issue with him is, HE PREACHES TOO MUCH OF A MAN, as in this case, Kumuyi and others that he believes in AND if we teach anything in contrast to those men he believes in, he thinks we're rebels. Many times we'll teach something here and Olaadegbu will argue me down ONLY TO FIND OUT ONE OF HIS FATHERS IN THE LORD WILL TEACH THE SAME AND HE LIFT THE ARTICLE AS TEACHING AND POST AS THREAD. So, basically, if Goshen teach something, he argues down but if a white man from his mentor says the same thing he copies and paste to a thread here. I'm only challenging our brother to study for himself and be less into doctrines of men....hence was the statement to him, he preaches too much of Kumuyi but rather he should preach Christ.

2. I made a comment which Olaadegbu compared my statement of the woman caught in the act of adultry as a representation of the church of Jesus or a type/shadow which he Christ was later going to die for and give the gift of no condemnation. Olaadegbu in his hastiness didn't ask me to explain....he quickly equate it to as though usual parables by which Jesus would normally teach....I at Olaadegbu in tongues

But you have said something concerning parables BUT I WON'T EVEN EQUATE THE ISSUE OF THIS WOMAN AS PARABLE BUT AS TRUTH BECAUSE IF YOU CHECK EVERY EVENT DURING JESUS LIFETIME IN THE GOSPELS, EVERY EVENTS WAS USED TO TEACH THE TRUTH OF HIS DBR&G.... death, burial, ressurection and glorification

As much as there are ALSO SPIRITUAL TRUTH IN PARABLES which I'm not knocking you down that there are some spiritual truths in parables, THEY (PARABLES) ARE USED BY CHRIST TO COMMUNICATE TO LOW IQ PEOPLE OF THAT TIME AS REGARDS SPIRITUAL MATTERS. It is used to communicate to those who cannot handle revelation of God's kingdom. (Matthew 13 vs 10 - 13) EVENTS THAT OCCURED IN SCRIPTURES ARE ALSO REVELATIONS OF GODS HIDDEN TRUTH which are now revealed to us.

3. As for Olaadegbu's throwing jabs at me being a Democrat, I wasn't even gonna to respond because that's him being peddy. His White and Black Republicans are the ones destroying us here in the states.....and these are people Olaadegbu will fight die hard to support....e.g, Been Carson, who's Secretary of HUD. This man is EVIL....yes I said it! If you don't believe me, look up his harvoks on HUD and congressional hearings on YouTube. So just to mention that, I'm not going to turn this to a political Debbie.

4. He claimed I haven't being or should show links here where I have been teaching or preaching Christ and Him crucified....if he can't find it under my topics, I don't think I should engage with his conversation on that. And Btw, what have we been doing or preaching here over the years if not Christ and Him crucified?

Respect, my brother!

OLAADEGBU:
Woman Caught In the Act

I love the narrative in John 8, where the woman was caught in the act of adultery. When the religious leaders brought her to Him and said the Law demanded her death, it wasn't about their desire to keep the Law. It was rather about them wanting to have something of which to accuse Jesus so that they could justify their own sin: "This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him" (John 8:6).

The Scriptures tell us that Jesus then stooped down and wrote something on the ground “as though he heard them not."

We don't know what He wrote on the ground, but I think we can have a good idea. Some say it was the men's sins, but that would have taken a lot of writing. There's an easier way to write man's sins. I think Jesus wrote the Ten Commandments in the sand. What else does God write with His finger? (see Exodus 31:18). What took place is what happens when the Law does its work—they were convicted in their conscience (John 8:9), and their accusing mouths were stopped (see Romans 3:19-20).

When God wrote His Law in stone it was permanent. But when Jesus wrote in sand, it meant what was written could easily be erased with one move of His merciful hand.

So when self-righteous sinners come to you accusing you of some sin to try and justify their own sinfulness, do what Jesus did. Don't listen to their accusations. Instead, turn it back on them by giving them the Law, and by the grace of God show them that they can only throw stones if they are without sin.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 19 May 2014 ·
www.livingwaters.com

Brother, you keep confusing yourself when you post article from other people who write contradictory things and you buy into it and post or re-post....

ANYWAY, That woman caught in the act is the representation of the church of Jesus. That's why she doesn't have a name mentioned to her and that's why the man wasn't caught in the act with her so that Christ can fill in the space to die for her.

OLAADEGBU:
Can you show me where you have done just that?

Your sentiment as usual.....lol

Over the years, I have preached Christ and him crucified

alBHAGDADI:
When?

All over your THREADS!

alBHAGDADI:
Do t be fooled bro. Any church that preaches work based salvation is not for Jesus. Such will be told by Jesus that he never knew them

Just like YOU HAVE PROVED OR PREACHED WORKS BASED SALVATION ON THIS FORUM TOO

U preach too much Kumuyi....preach Christ and Him crucified

ichuka:
Christains are Nobile Altars. And that's the most important altar.

I can't but agree more!

I love the title and let me take time to read through the op the rest and fellowship with you....great Grace, great power!

jennifer76:
Church wahala. I am interested in who will help my brother in Newyork oooo. I need help ooooooo. I will reciprocate when the person visit Abuja. Goshen360 with due respect ,you are in Newyork can you help out. I can see you are rooted in things of God ,pls my brother rooted too. Pls can we chat . My email is itdproject@yahoo.com

What does your brother need help for. I sent you an email

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.

I'm beginning to suspect this your handle....typical of the confused Ola.... . As a matter of fact n truth, Kumuyi is the heretic one on this subject because he's the one teaching another gospel.

Why is Kumuyi still holding onto the Mosaic (law) when the Messiah (Grace and Truth) already came by Jesus? How many of the laws in the Mosaic does Kumuyi still obey today?

Why is Kumuyi still holding onto the Mosaic (law) when the Messiah (Grace and truth) had already come?

Make God help us o

EMILO2STAY:
i think 1corithians 14:2 has got many people confused concerning speaking in tongues. those who read just one verse in the bible do not get a full understanding of the whole context. the same 1corithians14:2 when read through to verse 5 and beyond will give a full understanding that the tongue been talked about is not heavenly language but local languages. just because it says unknown tongue does not mean that it is heavenly language that is the reason for this verse 1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an UNKNOWN tongue pray that he may interpret.

Versre two IS NOT CONFUSING.... you and my brother Mutty are not convincing anyone beyond doubt....if u give me a knock out that I can't come back that when you explain verse two....it says, he that speaks in tongues SPEAKS TO GOD NOT TO MAN....don't you think Paul is teaching different tongues here than what happened in Acts 2 because in Acts two, it was tongues SPOKEN TO MEN AND OTHER MEN UNDERSTOOD IT.... please explain.

Please sorry guys for late response.... I'm planning to come to Nigeria and too busy with work n preparation etc

MuttleyLaff:
Literally laughed out loud at this comment.

Can you also type and write in tongues Goshen360 or that will be going too far and stretching it a bit?

EMILO2STAY, please dont be surprised, it is not easy o my brother.

The gift of speaking in tongue actually is a sign for unbelievers and/or the unbelieving. The three times the gift of speaking of tongues was recorded in the Bible, it on each ocassion happened to dispel unbelief and/or convert the unbelieving. No one has to believe me on this just on face value, not even Goshen360 or birdman, as they can verify what I said about it from the Bible

Now the thing is, people, especially Africans, because of being accustomed to "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" an/or reciting incantations, are propelled to mix their own ideas and understanding, against the teachings of the Bible and what the Bible actually is saying. They need a crutch, so this make-believe PRAY in tongues charade has to be discovered. It is among the last bastion of ATR and/or pagan mentality that needs to be shrugged off

The three times you talked about on speaking in tongues WAS SPEAKING TO MEN.....my brother, listen to....verse two says, he that speaks in tongues SPEAKS TO GOD NOT UNTO MAN.....what sayeth thou brother?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne-m6qomFFg

This man is loaded bruh!

It doesn't add up in the word when most CHRISTIANS pay tithe but are employed by noon tithers....God is not a liar!

MuttleyLaff:
Goshen360, my dearest brother, let's cut this to the barest and real bone. If you are speaking, whether in private or public, in a human language, that no one understands or speaks in, who will understand this human language you speak in, if not God. Now, here is where it gets interesting, what is the point in you speaking or repeating a human language you don't understand? What is the point, of course your spirit might gel with the flow, but your mind has no clue whatsoever to all you are saying, so what is the benefit and point, when your mind doesn't understand it?.

If you want it to make sense that God understands you but the other people don't, then make sure you understand what you are saying so you can interpret what you are saying to others and/or the people.

God understands all tongues, so it doesn't matter to God, what tongue anybody chooses to speak in. This thing is so simple and straightforward but you guys have just to turn it on its head and into something else, like I earlier said into glorified "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" or incantations.

You, my dearest brother haven't convinced me or few here with stronger truth. I hear you, read and disgest you.... let's put it in another way BECAUSE THE VERSE I QUOTED WAS WHAT DEFINED what the tongue or language that he, Paul said no one understands but you saying it's human language....

So let me double-check on you,

What human language can a man speak that is describe as MYSTERIOUS by the power of the Spirit?

EMILO2STAY:
so brother goshen, what are you implying,.. that you can speak in so called heavenly language with the help of the holy spirit?.

Yes I do PRAY in tongues. However, I'm scripturally against speaking or praying in tongues in the public worship place like what Paul Enenche and these Pentecostal rascals are doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnUpp4zxIxk

MuttleyLaff:
"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;"
- Revelation 7:9

"⁹Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
¹⁰That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
¹¹And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
- Philippians 2:9-11

Goshen360, my dearest beloved brother, this thing is very simple, only that you dont want to adjust your "properly & holistic understanding meter" on this matter of gift of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:2 is easily understood and needing no explanation because of the greek word "glossa" used in it, which funnily enough, means word, and it's how we have the word, glossary, so obviously, "glossa" simply means human beings word(s), tongue(s) and/or language(s).

Now going straight on to your question, the language or tongue Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2, is the language or tongue of human beings. He is talking about the tongue and/or language associated with human beings. So, the language or tongue Paul was talking about is, one in reference to a human being's style or manner of speaking.

Tongue, an organ of speech, is a member of the body of a human being, not celestial beings and also is the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other people, so again my dear brother Goshen360, that is the kind of language or tongue, what Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14:2

Think about it Goshen360, if I speak in a tongue no one understands, then except God and the absence of interpretation, no one will understand me. Even if I do it in private, and then my spirit prays, but my mind has no understanding and clue of what I've said.

Okay my brother, let's put it in context or perspective and see how this verse makes sense to you.....

For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious

Okay you said it is human language right say put it in perspective say for instance hausa, or Igbo, or Yoruba, french, etc

So let's replace those languages with tongues in that verse and see if we make sense or not....

For if you have the ability to speak in Hausa Igbo, Yoruba or French etc, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious

Two things:

First, this is a worship gathering in 1 Corinthians 14 and it's public

Second, It's doesn't make sense to me if I'm speaking these human language to ONLY God AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ME because someone or somebody in the public will or might understand Hausa or igbo or Yoruba or French.....BUT HE SAYS THE LANGUAGE IM SPEAKING IS ONLY TO GOD, and God do understand every languages BUT PEOPLE WONT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ME....it doesn't make sense in that reading of context if it is some human language, if it is human language then someone will understand buy it says people don't understand me.....so it's is human language?

@ MuttleyLaff,

Can you please tell everyone what language or tongue Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 14 v 2 that no man UNDERSTANDS but it's between the speaker spirit and to God?