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Unclekayfarms:
Why won't Oranmiyan be a made up story? Is it because doesnt favour your account of the story? Listen, without Oranmiyan(a Yoruba Oba) there will never have been Oba in Igodomigodo kingdom...na Ogiso chief go dey

Christistruth00:
Who born your Father Oba of Benin?

forgiveness:
You mean Ewuare and the likes were forged?

I know Obantala was the oba in Ile ife before Oduduwa arrived and displaced him.

How come you acknowledged Oduduwa existence but you disagreed on Oranmiyam's existence?

forgiveness:
Who was Eweka's father? Who changed the name of Igodomigodo to Benin (ilu-ibinu)?

forgiveness:
Oba of Benin lied is what I deduced from your comment. It's possible but even he himself can't the fact that Oranmiyam was Benin first Oba.

jneutron4000:
Is this the junks and falsehood you want me to waste my time to read Goodnight man make I leave you with your fallacy

Balogunodua:
I'm his new source of history...


Summary For Quick Referencing

(1) “Yoruba” Founded In 1808 ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759

(2) No Relationship Between Ife and Benin Prior To The 1800s ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798
OR
https://www.nairaland.com/6087424/benin-ife-myth-shouldnt-circulated#93803726

(3) Binis Militarily Invaded, Conquered, Settled in Lagos, and then Installed an Edo Prince as The First King ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783

(4) Binis Own The Word “Oba” ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

(5) Benin Obtained TRIBUTES from OYo ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6291440/benin-remain-center-west-africa/1#96792413

(6) Benin Ruled Certain Eastern-Yoruba Kingdoms ??
DEBUNKED:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96519494

jneutron4000:
Oranmiyan did not really style himself as Oba because he was a warrior, Nevertheless he stayed in Benin for a very short period, Eweka dynasty formally stated the Obaship and of course his father was Oranmiyan

forgiveness:
You mean oba of Benin lied?

Balogunodua:
Benin has no influence in Lagos... everything in Lagos is pure Yoruba maybe you should look inside the Lagoon the fishes might have a little Benin influence...which I doubt

jneutron4000:
That is not true. Ile Ibinu was corrupted to Benin, the only conspiracy of Ife and Benin is that of Ekaladerhan turned Oduduwa pushed out by the palace because of the problem of the Ogisos/Ogiamen descendant, wanting to be recognize as the Aborigines traditional ruler of that land.

forgiveness:
Oranmiyam was the first Oba of Benin

nocomment2:
Ok, I have had my fun with this scam artist named christistruth00. I am the person who actually found the historical document in question and posted it to nairalanda.
Here is the actual translation:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

The document comes from a book: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k62093119/f11.image.r=Yebou

@ Areafada, Gregyboy, Samuk, Davidnazee.

Very obviously the metropolis being talked about is Benin !
Macof why are you such a liar ?
For your info, "langue de terre" means : "very narrow piece of land". You don't speak French and your Google translation won't translate that, because it is an expression.
While discussing history with you guys yoruba, it always comes down to this: you must lie ! But why ? It is history, it has already happened, why try to create your alternate reality ?

For readers who only want the truth, the text is here for you, don't be lazy, translate it.

Also, when you see expressions like "langue de terre" you have to first look at its meaning in a French dictionary ( just type the expression on Google, it should give you the meaning in french), then you translate the meaning (which would be words in french) into English.
Don't believe me, just do the work and don't be lazy.


Also, as can be seen in the third caption, "ouyo" doesn't mean "oyo". Ouyo refers to a bunch of pirates whom were also called Jos. The ouyo pirates are most likely ijo people ! Gbam !

Christistruth00:
You can not tell tlMusuliu Obanikoro his ancestral History he even mentioned their Awori Yoruba Clan.

jneutron4000:
Aworis, Ijebus Own Lagos 100%. Am just saying that even the so called Benin kingdom, the first [s]Oba of Benin which is Eweka, is a son of Oranmiyan from Ile Ife. Ile Ife Prince Oranmiyan lineage birth the so called Benin[/s] Empire and before Ashipa even stepped into Lagos, we already have the Dejo chiefs which are Elegushi, Aromire, Onitiwo, Olooto, Ijora etc, Edos knows Lagos is no their land, we just have some idiots in Yorubaland that spew trash at time just for stupid reasons . Lagos is surrounded by Ogun state within Nigeria and even by Yorubas in Benin Republic to the external border of Nigeria so how did the Benins passed Ijebus and Egbas to found Lagos? They are using names as references . Oshodi is not a Yoruba name but because a man from Tapa helped we the Yorubas to fight the British, Chief Oshodi Landuji was made Balogun by Oba Kosoko, Now there is nobody in Lagos state that do not know Oshodi even his generation are regarded in Lagos.

Christistruth00:
CC: TAO11

jneutron4000:
You are wrong. Ile Ibinu was corrupted to Benin. Before Oranmiyan stepped into that land there was nothing like Benin. Eweka dynasty terminated the Ogisos dynasty. It is not a fiction rather historical fact.

forgiveness:
Oranmiyam was the first Oba of Benin.

Balogunodua:
Benin do not own nothing in Lagos... I mean not an inch notn even half up of sand in Lagos... quote me anywhere.

Christistruth00:
Isale Eko is the Area between Idumota Market to Obalende. Oba of Lagos influence doesn't reach beyond there and the Land the Markets are on belongs to the Aromire Awori Yoruba family

Skepticus:
It's bigger than losing feelings. That girl OP talked about na most likely Coded Street girl wey dey run package on top the OP head.

As she see say OP don engage her (wedding on the way), she use the few months wey she get as single babe, they "sort" her old boyfriend(s) which is giving them "parting sex" before her marriage. All go be clean runs, no social media chat so that the OP no go suspect. I don straff babe like that 3 days to her wedding. Babe just call me say she wan give me "parting gift" before wedding. Deletes call as soon as she made them to clean up "evidence". Na banging all night before she go wed for PH 3 days later. That's why paternity fraud for Nigeria be like water. Na so plenty men take dey train first children wey nor be dia own.

I just dey laugh the OP. Girl dey run "street" parole on am and e nor wan understand. He should be glad that he has a good "subconscious" telling him that something is wrong.

ogashman:
I have been there before..... ur girl knows she is about to be caged by marriage, so this is the last time she has to test another dick, before living with urs forever.


if you can, call it quits with her or [s]better still warn the guy to keep off ur woman[/s]....take her phone and call the guy to leave ur wife alone. if she still continues, then u know what to do

Serene123:
Confuse

[s]Haven't seen tangible evidence against her and the guy despite hacking her phone and reading all her chats for months.

Just the call that put me off. And the call have continued for months

I am torn between believing her or just calling it off.[/s]

Serene123:
Her chats, sms, messenger all clean.

Someting happened and her WhatsApp was showing on my phone for months without her knowing. I didn't see a single chat with the guy.
Not one.

Serene123:
Please I will need your constructive opinion on this. Been battling with this thoughts for some time now.

I engaged my girl last year. Reason why I did engage her was because I saw her intent to be with me. I have seen her gave out her cash to help get somethings for our new apartment. She has even used her cash to buy some properties she wants in the house when we get married.
She has stood and defended me to her family on why she is getting married to me. She has really earned my trust and never regretted engaging her. She is one girl that every man will like to have as wife

In the course of our relationship months back, I noticed there is this guy that call her. I questioned and she said is just a friend. I have told her I am not comfortable with the call. Yes I have listened to the calls and it doesn't sound serious
On 25th Dec I place a call across to her phone and she wasn't picking. She later told me reason why she didn't pick.
While we were together I noticed she didn't pick cos she went out with the same guy I have been complaining about. I got to know via a pic.
She has insisted nothing serious is going on.
I was so angry and I needed to take her phone and check up something. We struggled with the phone and she injured her nails.. She is saying I am a woman beater and I have anger issue.
She started keeping to herself and phone and was bold to tell me that this action of mine has succeeded in killing the feelings she has for me.

She has asked for time to get her mental health back and for close to two weeks now we haven't been flowing well..

I have tried to talk to her so we fix this shit but she said she needs time.

I have decided to give her the time she needs while I focus on something else. Yes, I miss her

I won't lie, is emotional for me and someone is currently trying to fill her vacuum by being all nice. I am getting closer to her, but my heart still yearn for my fiance.

I don't know if I am doing the right thing by being close to another lady. I don't know if I should belivee her that she has lost feelings for me and move on.
I need your advise.

Sorry for the lengthy thread

NoChill:
You people are here arguing who speaks English best. English an imported language, it has gotten so bad that our people can no longer speak their indigenous languages anymore, they all want to be like the English man cos they believe the English men are better.

Fools, continue being foolish.

Why can't they (the English men) be competing on who speaks our indigenous languages better

Balogunodua:
You don tire ni.....

Kai....dis tocho tewmch fr u....

TAO11:
Can you re-type all these in English language?

I don’t understand Edo language.
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Furthermore, I think you should channel your energy towards perfecting your desperate lies for your own people.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12989005_e224528eb7754acf9e507f0747e515f6_jpeg_jpegebe30b3fe3aef7cffde79d61716897ef

Your people are becoming too wise for you to control. Etinosa is obviously tired of playing along.

I kind of pity you right now.

Cc: Ideadoctor, babtoundey, Balogunodua, gomojam, DenreleDave, SaintBeehot, Olu317

TAO11:
The Professors (E. A. Isichei, P. U. Isichei, Adam Knobler) have already cited the specific work of Ryder under consideration here.

Tell your parents to buy it for you. Hold them tight.

Here is how your Bini daddies insisted adamantly to Captain Ernst Roupell in 1897 that the Oba of Benin is descended from Ife-Yoruba. See attached:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12987303_6a1612026ee04297ac49eb2df92ce6c2_jpeg_jpeg1172f81492a76047da1dd27be2301419

The Yorubas never pointed a gun at your daddies’ skulls for them to have insisted adamantly to Roupell in 1897 that the Benin monarchy comes from Ife-Yorubaland.