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Pointblank09:
PASTORS don't pay they only collect.

OboOlora:
I remember my first interview at Zenith bank. The HR manager and an AGM wanted to intimidate me, telling me they only had vacancy for tellers (with a salary of 70k). 5minutes into the interview, their intercom buzzed and they were told my car was blocking the third interviewer (a GM). I was excused to go and repark and I could see the change in attitude when I got back. Apparently, I brought the same car as their GM and then the table turned. I returned and placed my LG chocolate phone on the table (their fada...they were trying to BUGA me with one cheap Nokia before). In summary, the GM 'upped' my offer and I was offered a Customer Executive role even though I resigned the first day I resumed !

Manontheledge:
Thanks man, after 7yrs I know her pretty well. I have stylishly brought up the idea of engagement but made it look like it were someone else and she made a remark about not liking getting engaged for long. So I already have an idea.

We are close to both our families.

I have been assuring her, I call almost 9 times in a day, send lengthy encouragement sms. In fact I think I am no longer doing this job hunt for me or my folks. I am doing this for her, I can't afford to let her down or on us.

naijastoryz:
TITHING: THE GULLIBILITY AND HYPOCRISY OF THE NIGERIAN CHRISTIAN – By Nkechi Bianze.
Back in 2013, in my home Church, something happened that changed my whole perspective. An alter call for donations was made, thus:
“Praise tha Lord o. Our Daddy in the Lord is visiting us with his army of Soldiers. We need to look after our daddy very well. We need to lodge him in the most expensive hotel in town for one week. Feed him and mummy, transport him and look after him while he is with us.”
I was already making calculations in my head at this point, with the idea of the price of the most expensive hotel, and what it costs to lodge people.
Then the announcer continued…
“We are also going to look after his 50-man entourage, likewise. It would cost us at least N100k per day to look after Daddy and Mummy, and at least N70k per day to look after each of his 50-man entourage.”
I’m quite fast with numbers, most especially when these numbers are about money. Thus, it took me less than a minute to come up with a sum total of what they expected us to donate so we can “look after” the spiritual leader of the church. We are talking about a fundraising of not less than N25.2 million Naira here. For what? To have the spiritual leader come and preach to us for a couple of hours per week.
When the calls were made for those who want to give N50k and above to walk down to the “healing ground” for special prayers, I was about to go. I had N50k to give. But then, I snapped within me. I remembered that there are families who are struggling to feed. I remembered that there are children who can’t go back to school because they can’t afford tuition. I remembered that there are people in hospitals who are dying because they can’t afford treatments of N10k.
I had initially wanted to stand up to walk to the front with my N50k, but I saw myself parking my bag, and walking out of the church.
I went out, waved an Okada man, and asked him to take me to the central hospital. I went into the hospital, then asked the nurse if there was anyone struggling with medical bills. I was showed two patients. One was a woman who had just put to bed, and two was a child who had just been treated for malaria. I gave them N15k each. The child could now be allowed to go home. His petty trader single mother almost rolled on the floor thanking me. What for? N15k? It was embarrassing as well as fulfilling…. I actually dropped a tear.
I took a bike to the car park, saw a crippled beggar, he was carrying his plastic plate begging the food seller for food. I gave him N5k and also brought him food.
I went back to Church to join my parents, just like nothing happened.
The following day, I went to the primary school I attended at some point, greeted the head teacher, and asked if there was any student struggling financially. I was showed some. I chose three. I gave each of them N10k. I ended up spending over N65k on strangers who needed my money the most. I paid hospital bills, fed a beggar for at least one week, and paid tuition fees for three.
Any God who thinks that I should be in hell because I didn’t enrich an already stinking rich man who is a thousand times richer than myself and my parents, but rather gave that money to the poor, is a God I never want to have anything to do with.
This was the beginning of it all.
I don’t believe in tithing. That’s a modern-day religious scam.
But I do “tithe”.
Everything that I should have dropped in the Church accounts goes directly to the poor. I pay tuition fees for people, I pay hospital bills, and I feed the poor. All these I do whenever I have the money to do it.
After this experience in 2013, I felt so happy within myself. I felt an inner Joy. I still feel joy within each time I remember that I have put and keep putting smiles on the faces of people who almost had no hope at some points, just with my N10k, N20k, here and there. So, I made a vow in 2013 that love is going to be my religion where I would be paying my tithe and offerings to people, mainly strangers that won’t recognize me again some hours after.
Even the Bible says, whatsoever you do to the least of thou brethren, so you do unto me.
Jesus Christ gave more than he received. The early missionaries that brought Christianity to Nigeria gave more than they received. They built schools, hospitals, and churches for free. They did a lot to improve human lives, and asked for nothing back…. only believe.
But the opposite is what we have amongst Nigerian pastors these days. They make their gullible members milk cows to enrich themselves.
What is a sane man, who goes by the title “GO” in a country where many only survive on less than a dollar a day doing with four private jets? That has gone beyond greed, that’s insanity! And Nigerians keep enabling these brands of insanities.
Nigerian pastors and GOs will continue getting richer for as long as the average Nigerian Christian remains gullible. This gullibility is simply self-inflicted-mental-laziness. You have refused to think with your brains, so these GOs think for you. And they think for you to their own benefits.
I don’t give in Churches anymore. Heaven knows I won’t give a dime to a multi-billionaire pastor while there are still beggars on the streets.
Nigerian Christians need to start using their brains. This is URGENT!
Think man, think woman, because no one ever died of thinking critically with his or her brain.
Even though I become a billionaire today, no Nigerian pastor would get a dime from me. My “tithes”, arms, offerings, and seeds would all go directly to the poor in my society. Not to some of the richest people in the world.

source-http://www.metrodailies.com/2017/11/10/tithing-gullibility-hypocrisy-nigerian-christian-nkechi-bianze/

slapandfall:
New is relative.

#Most of the olds in Europe is New in Africa..
Sad truth.

Na only God know where they go bring this one from.
Forget name ooo.. Boeing 787-9 . That thing can be written with paint so don't be deceived.

datproject:
There are certainly things OP can not understand about the member because you look at it from canal perspective. If you ask the member the meaning of what she did, she might tell you plainly she is not worshipping the chair, but the God that anointed the man that used to seat on the chair. Her motive to God is what matters, and not the manner at which you painted the picture from canal angle.

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

sonofluc1fer:
They say knowledge is wisdom, knowledge is light. A little research, a little reading, a little digging would have done a lot to your vision. It's the reason why you fail to see the difference between a JET and a CAR.

Private also implies 'personal' use. Are you admitting that these private jets are purchased by the churches to cater to the personal need of the CEO aka Man of God?

eleojo23:
It is good to pray but there is a reason why God gave man medical knowledge.

Not everything is spiritual. Let us not be ignorant biko

This is probably a case of VVF caused by childbearing or just a urinary tract infection.

OP, just take your wife to a hospital and see a gynecologist/urologist.

Mobolajizx:
Hello nairalanders,

I need your help and I have to be brief . I created this Monica to hide my identity. I married my wife 3 years ago. Just last year, I noticed my wife now bedwets . I have tried all available options but it keeps getting worse. I love my wife and family and please help me get through this mess. God bless you all.

Please you guys should help me.

olade82:
All the tithes when u waconzy dey pay, where your music career today?

kharyode:
Please are they the same thing...
Help o

Maximus85:
In as much as you are correct, the ballon d'or is for Ronaldo already. Pls don't cry yet.

JiffyNaija:
The Charismatic Striker has finally equalled his arch-rival, Lionel Messi, by beating him to the Ballon d'Or awards!

One word: LEGEND!

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EazyMoh:
If I were Atiku I will just find you give you N10m and begging you never to campaign for me again!
Aside the blatant lies (Like employing more than Dangote).

emerazz:
swrs d last izza bomb d guy will end up checking his dick tru out today.. until he won't knw wen he'll pick his phone and Google 'd average d*ck size for a normal man'

NwaAmaikpe:



Auzubillahi Minash Shaitan ir Rajeem
See the type of dirty hospital her husband took her to.

She even looks like a sinner.
A true Muslima wears either a skull cap, a scarf or a hijab. How will she dishonor her body by exposing her hair?

With that said;
Inna lillaahi maa 'akhatha, wa lahu maa 'a'taa, wa kullu shay'in 'indahu bi'ajalin musamman...faltasbir waltahtasib.

modelmike7:
Dream on Mr Dreamworld .

Safe Delivery Benita.....
Once more , keep your baby bump out of social media.

Mocalypse:
That track is always on a repeat every monday morning before I step outside my house.

powerfulengine:
he tore your cloth and his too....abi you tear his own clothes too......

Daddybright1986:
Here in Gombe, we are 4 tenants an our bills is almost #7000 divide it by 4.......but light the day constantly

Apawicked:
chronic zombie spotted!! you wonder how you share same country with people that think like this and the people closer to him how they cope with his thinking.
almajiri that thinks himself Igbo on nairaland

uhuogba:
There are so many similarities between the Christian faith and the Moslem Faith.
I was so much surprised the day I found out that Muslims believe in the "immaculate conception" of Jesus.
If Jesus was born without a Father by permission of God of course, I think Muslims too can relate to Christians referring to Him as the Son of God. He did miracles too , preached the Gospel, and at the end the both faith recorded He ascended to heaven.
There are so many similarities among these two Faiths it can't just be coincidence. There should be much more peace and better understanding between the two groups of faith.

I will like to see Muslims being much more open and liberal about their faith, bringing articles such as these to a public forum is a good step towards that but having everyone click yes to an Islamic Oath just to contribute like I have just done is suppressive. This particular thread is intended for non Muslims, does it make sense that we cannot engage Muslims in discussion on the subject on ground because one is forced to take an online oath which is not fair?
My Nairaland Muslim brothers, please loosen up so there will be midpoint for all to discuss about your faith which I and many other open minded fellows find quite intriguing.
Peace be to you all!