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Lovelive:
Lagos, is it a country on its own or.... ?



Any Nigerian can live anywhere in the country so drop the silly argument and recalibrate your up stairs.

Peter Obi lives in Lagos. Why not Anambra that he turned to Dubai? Like the OP showed, Obi is not a saviour by any margin or definition. He's the average, usual Nigerian governor. The ipobforce packaging and tribal/religious undertone of his campaign(ers) is very worrisome.

lol, FFK sef dey talk. When is he decamping, hungry man.

Looks very tribal for a million man march, these ones are not serious yet.

od501:
Here comes another product of a quota system education. So... Obi is now the reason behind the declining value of naira? I really pray make this man no win. Let's do this hunger game for at least more 4 years make em sure for everybody. Ode!

Peter Obi used dollars in the interview na. He said his investment has gone from over $20million to $100 million. That's a lie, that's why the confusions came.

Na so Obi go dey use naija money invest in beer parlor?

SensualMan1:
Even in crucifixion, Christ remained OBIdient to his father's will and he said not as I will but my father's.
Nigerians have chosen to be OBIdient.

You can carry out your campaign without involving religion or being sacrilegious. Jesus Christ's obedience to God on calvary for the salvation of the world has nothing to do with Nigeria's presidential election campaigns, please stay on lane and stop making mockery of people's beliefs so cheaply.

kingxsamz:
The fact that there's little to no account of this character and his works in all of history only shows he was an irrelevant individual who didn't really amass lots of followers and also didn't posses supernatural powers like the story book called the bible claims.

Sam the joke, this is 2022 years after His death. He's that relevant to your life and existence for ever.

CAPSLOCKED:
adambeatz

TERRY REALLY WON.

IT HAPPENED TO SAMSON IN THE BIBLE AND KEEPS HAPPENING TO THIS DAY.

Did it happen or it's fiction? You guys are eternally confused on that.

wirinet:
Good. I really hope you try harder. The future of this country lies with the youth. The youth between 18 to 50 years constitutes half of the whole population, while the over 50s constitutes less than 7%. The over 60s constitutes less than 2%. But what do we have, the youths are wasting their time and energy on religion and Yahoo yahoo, while the over 60s hold the country to ransome. At best the youth becomes political thugs, agberos and cultists.

You guys can make here and now the heaven you desire instead of waiting to die to enjoy life. Japan has done it, UAE has done it, Norway has done it. You too can do. All it requires is hard word, courage and sacrifice.

Okay sir, thanks for this advice. We'll try harder like you suggested/hoped.

HellVictorinho4:
Is this how you feel special?

i don't feel special, i am special. Abi is your name written in the book of Life? Do you know my Jesus? Does God love you like He loves me? Have you experienced the joy and peace that i experience every day? Do you have any hope of eternity? These and more make you special, not the silly things you think of.

So doing convention on time and choosing vice is a sign of preparedness to govern? Ewoooo.

LordReed:
LoLz. Why would I accept the word of a Christian about this over the word of JEWISH scholars?

lol, like you accept the words of Jewish scholars.

HellVictorinho4:
That guy is a waste of time here.

Everybody is talking, Victor too open out without begging or threatening to die. Alleluia, there's nothing God cannot do oh.

LordReed:
Ron Hubbard a sci-fi fiction author made up a religion 70years ago and it has strong adherents today. It should already have been clear to you that devotion is not an indicator of truth.

The point/fact that i included gods should have made you see that i wasn't referring to truth or to just christianity.

LordReed:
For someone who follows Jesus you sure don't like taking to correction. I thought a follower of Jesus was supposed to be humble? LoLz.

i said "Thanks for pointing it out though", what more do you want, corrector?

wirinet:
You are delusional.
Get your life together and achieve something tangible in your short life instead of giving up hoping to enjoy in some make believe fairy tale land.

Okay sir. i'll try.

wirinet:
Your fairy tales had been hammered with treats and sometimes by force for 2000 years. Your fairy tale had been indoctrinated into children the minute they were born. And you comparing to Alice in wonderland thats barely a hundred years that's used to entertain children?

Yes some professors and doctors still follow these 2nd century fairy tales, these are due to family and societal pressures, threats and indoctrination. But these threats societal pressures has been losing its grip in knowledge based countries especially among scientists ( and even among the general population). Its in poor, ignorant and helpless third world countries that such fairy tales has taken hold of the population rendering them almost useless to the world.

You do need to wake up, self deception is not cool.

LordReed:
It's come on or c'mon for short.

,i know. Thanks for pointing it out though.

wirinet:
Your guys are delusional, I would even say schizophrenic to believe these thrash. It's like believing and arguing about Alice in wonderland.

Lordreed, you are wasting your time arguing on 2nd century fairy tales.

How many people go to hear Alice every Sunday. Wearynet, please be realistic and reasonable. Professors and doctors all over the world go to some god/God some 3 or 4 times every week for decades. And it's going on for thousands of years. And you compare to Alice. Common man, wake up.

Seems the Twitter fellow is playing to the gallery. What Seun asked him was a very simple question and Seun remained remarkably rational in the conversation. The Twitter guy is obviously on NL and showed obvious partisanship, unnecessary ego and grudge unbefitting of a journalist. Lol, small fame, see the way he's behaving. If those ones jam power, we're all in trouble.

It's the city syndrome, not peculiar to Nigerians. Most old people can't cope with the city and don't have a place there in the developed world. So they move to the suburbs and fringes.

LordReed:
Even after telling you I didn't run out of questions you are still repeating it, makes it obvious you think its some kind of victory to pat yourself on the back over. Else I see no reason why such a simple correction continues to elude you. LoLz.

You did run out of them, i know you quite well.

LordReed:
So why did you write as if you scored some kind of victory? My decision to longer continue to draw out your tales had nothing to do with running out of questions so it was just so hilarious seeing your response.

i don't remember writing as if i scored victory. i simply answered your questions until you ran out of more. There's no tale in what i have said, they are mostly found in the Bible. Just that i clearly know that most of it is not common knowledge. Discussing Trinity or separation of the human or eternity is not Superjojo that is clear to the understanding of every harry.

Lol, President of stingy men association for president? Let's be realistic oh. He said even his wife knows, Peter will not buy this, Peter will not do this.

Join join is not by force. It's just a good advice. But you should both be willing to share with each other. You can't be joined to someone and complain of interference as either husband or wife. That's just a contract not a marriage.

KnownUnknown:
The only confused person is you and your ilk. When you conclude your verbose and meandering write up with the above, it highlights the fact that you know that everything you wrote is nonsense. The last vestige of honesty and rationality in you made you confess that everything you wrote is a confused mess that does not make a lick of sense.
You didn’t confuse anybody but expose the nonsensical nature of your beliefs.

What kind of person sets out to elucidate, acts glad that he failed, and then tries to laugh at the person he set out to teach?!!

Lol, so i had some honesty and rationality. That should make news

iiifedimma:
Please support our honourable Peter obi for the president's of federal Republic of Nigeria, we are tired of those thief's now,

Without tribalism and nepotism any sane Nigerian's know it's someone like Peter obi that can now rescue Nigeria from totalling sinking, but seriously some ethnics bigot's people will just still prefer to hav their own man at the affairs of the country either he is capable or not than to go for what could have been the best solution to all nigerian's current problems, Peter obi2023 is certain

He's part of the bricklayers being paraded as engineers that we're talking about. See how people from Anambra were wailing and lamenting about him in his second term as governor, now social media is trying to change the narrative as better than slice bread.

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

LordReed:
That's the thing with you folk, everything is a dominance game because you think you are fighting some imaginary war. Enjoy. LoLz.

Answering questions is not dominance, i don't have battles/wars to fight. Jesus Christ gave me the victory already.

LordReed:
I think you've been under the impression that this was more than me laughing at your horribly convoluted tales. I just wanted to see how far you were willing to stretch credulity and it seems very far indeed. LoLz.

Your petrol don finish, good one. It continues to finish, glory be to God. By His grace, they always run out of questions to get us.

Behold the saviour of the OBIdient. i have been saying it that this guy is no different from your regular two term governor. Rubbish

LordReed:
So he will again unfuse from the god fusion and come in a spirit body? While his spirit was all the while on earth?

Nope, He's omnipresent meaning that He is present everywhere. The Father, the Son and the Spirit are omnipresent and have always been. It's only when Jesus became human for us that He left His glory to become a little lower than the angels.

You still haven't said where it resides after death.

Everywhere the man is, in his spirit and body. The rich man in hell had his memory with him if you remember the story Jesus gave in Luke. Like i said, it divides.

More like language obfuscation. You actually have a panteon of gods but you use language to dress it up.

It's one God in three Persons. i understand your confusion, i've been there till it was revealed.

It was you who said god left it to humans before and that it doesn't exist before a human is conceived. So now you are saying it comes from the god so does the god create the spirit when a child is conceived or what?

God left the work of reproduction to humans, not creation. Just like your body was nowhere before conception, your spirit was nowhere. It's not creation in the Genesis sense, though for lack of a better word we might call it creation. i'll call it supervision. God has created everything already, the mountains, the clouds, the waves, the animals, the humans etc. But He has set it all in process, like a re-creation. So we see the formation of new mountains, clouds, animals, humans etc. It's not like every day, God is doing what He did in the "6 day creation account". He already set the world in motion to be fruitful and multiply and replenish.

What I can't imagine is this convoluted mess you are trying to explain. It sounds so clumsy I wonder how you feel telling me all this stuff. You actually believe this thing you are explaining to me?

What part, the divine knowledge, the machine or the real point part? You were erroneously thinking that God needed our bodies to recognize us and i explained to you how we need it more. How do you recognize someone if not from their past? Even Jesus Christ will be recognized by humans with His pierced hands.
i understand that it's just settling in to you that humans will recognize and interact with each other in the afterlife. Your previous knowledge thought interaction will only be with God. No worries, take time to settle in.

If a god exists and feels the best way to introduce himself is not a direct relationship then I don't see the point in the god. I see the trees and appreciate them, I also appreciate Beyoncé's picture but I would be foolish to imagine that me appreciating her picture means I have a relationship with her.

You don't need to see the point but know the point. It's not everything we know that we see and it's not everything we see that we know. The reality of life is that we've been put in a disadvantage position by Adam. Now we have to believe to see. God had "direct" fellowship with man from the beginning but man chose the knowledge of good and evil over life. Now you have to choose the tree of foolishness to even stand a chance at eternity.
i say it for the umpteenth time, God doesn't need a relationship with everybody. He wants it because He's merciful, but He really doesn't need it. He just needs a few good humans replacing satan and his goons and word has it that He's got what He needs, the rest na jara. i think i just confused a couple more people Let me post

LordReed:
So he left his spirit body and is here without it but will go get and come back?

Lol, He is omnipresent. He does not need to go in the sense, He only needs to be revealed or your eyes rather opened.

So what type of body is Jesus coming in that will enable him rule for a 1000 years?

A body that doesn't die or get sick, the believers coming to reign with Him will have same body. It was the kind of body He had after resurrection that the disciples saw ascend. Like someone opined, Adam and Eve is close to it, though not it as they were made a little lower than angels.

Memory disintegrates on death?

Yeah, disintegrates in the divide sense not decomposition sense. It's maybe like a device having memories like internal memory, external memory, RAM, ROM etc. Man is much more complex than man made devices. Our "server" is more than just physical, it is tripartite.

The son part un-fused, left his spirit body then came to be born like a normal baby?

BTW this fusing is it the god spirit bodies that are fusing or the god spirits that are fusing or all 2 a parts, spirit body and spirit that are fused?

In a sense, yes. Evidently, the mystery of godliness is more than this, we just use illustrations that we can understand, like we sometimes use man or water in different forms etc to explain/illustrate.

John 17:5  And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.


The fusion is of three Persons so that it is one God, yet three distinct Persons.

So where does the spirit come from, the sperm and ovum?

Lol, from God. He is the Father of spirits. It's like a company seal in production. We are all given our unique seals from God. Even though your parents reproduce you and most of what you are and become is from them, it is not without God. Every human being has a spirit and the spirit comes from God.

You'll recognise people you've never met? How?

Divine knowledge. Machines already can recognise you and have all your data without having met you before. This is nothing compared to God and Heaven. It's actually besides the point though. The point is that humans will recognise each other in the afterlife. Imagine meeting your family in Heaven or the afterlife without the good features you knew them with. They just point to a door and say that was your wife and then you look like a cup or whatever features spirits look like. Clearly, we need the bodies more.

Sure, including acting as if he doesn't exist. LoLz.

Psa 19:1  The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 
Psa 19:2  Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. 
Psa 19:3  There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. 

If you have not seen His existence, it's unfortunately your cup of tea. He doesn't need you to see it, you are the one that needs to see it on time like several others have.