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Shelumiel:
Oga pack well. You're lying and you're lying with full confidence. How can that verse be a forgery...abi na you call am forgery or na that occultic movement (JW) call am forgery? Which one?

Dearie, I don't mean to be rude to you,if some of my statements are provocative, I sincerely apologize.
Let's get this clear up.
Check other versions of 1 John 5:7, find out why it's different from KJV, I showed you why from my screenshots..

If you read up other versions of the Bible,you would see it's different (Biblehub has very numerous Bible versions you can check). Start from there...
You no dey use Google dey do your research for school assignment?
There's nothing,ABSOLUTELY NOTHING occultic about JW (topic for another day).

Shelumiel:
You've proven nothing and you're here vomiting trash that your saw from google. How pathetic. Has google now become the reference point of biblical arguments and justification. Where was google when the bible was being translated...mtchww

The message is true, 1 John 5:7 (KJV) is a confirmed FORGERY.
Does the words of Jesus in the Scriptures quoted here agree with KJV 1John 5:7?
Why is KJV 1john5:7 different from other Bibles?
These are questions a serious person would seek ways to find out the fact rather than FALSELY claim the credible evidence is trash .

Revelation 3:5,11,12,21 & John 20:17,30-31, Matthew 16:13-17, John 17:3, the very words of the Master and Saviour, Jesus Christ,
Na you triune pagan deity devotee dey call trash.
TUEH !!!!!

choiceA:
kingdom,

It is not some people who say that Christ is God - it is there in the Bible. The moment you begin to doubt the Word of God, then you'll have countless reasons to argue and doubt who Jesus Christ claimed to be in Himself. No one can completely explain the Trinity - that is the one mystery among a few others that the human mind cannot grasp. Why? For the simple reason that the finite mind of man cannot know everything about the infinite God. "Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?" [Job 11:7]. That is not to say that we cannot know anything at all about God - His nature, character and work. But first, who really is Jesus Christ - only a man born in time and space, or the very God Himself who became incarnate for our salvation?


Is Christ God?

1. The New Testament
John 1:1 boldly proclaims: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." There is no doubt that the Word in that verse is pointing to Jesus Christ when you compare with Rev.19:13 - "his name is called The Word of God." Many have accused the apostle John of giving Jesus Christ the status of Godhood; but he is not the only disciple to have spoken of Christ's deity. Jesus Himself claimed the divine title 'Lord' in John 13:13 - "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." That is the one title that Christians have confessed about Jesus Christ down through the ages, and which continues to draw persecution from all quarters. Not long after the Church was established, a young conservative Jew appeared on the scene, breathing fire and arresting any Christian he could find. After encountering the living Christ on the Damascus road _{Acts 9:1-6}, Paul, who formerly had attacked Christians for daring to call Jesus 'Lord', fearlessly proclaimed His deity throughout his ministry. Notice how through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Paul declares both the humanity and deity of Christ in Rom.9:5 - "To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen." _{[ESV - English Standard Version]}

2. The Old Testament
Isn't it true that the deity of Christ is a New Testament doctrine that is not found in the Old Testament? No, for indeed several OT prophets clearly mentioned or indicated that the Messiah to come was God Himself. Isaiah calls the Child to be given by the divine name "The Mighty God." (Isa.9:5). Zachariah shows that the very God who said He would pour out the Spirit of grace and supplications upon the house of David, was the Messiah Himself - the One whom they would pierce: "they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced" (Zech.12:10). David in Spirit called Him 'Lord' (see Psa.110:1 and Matt.22:41-45). Several other OT texts speak about the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

In my follow-up response shortly, I'll try to share the roles of Christ in God's economy.

Twisted interpretation of the holy Scriptures..
Jesus Christ says you're doing just that...
Revelation 3:5,11-12,21. John 20:17,30-31.
John 3:16-17. John 17:3.
This is the SCRIPTURAL hierarchy. 1 cor11:3.

Shelumiel:
Let me get this straight (kikiki ). How do we know that this website you published has authentic answers to what we are debating on? Or is this another JW trickery...?

You're trying so hard to cover up your inadequacies....

Dearie, this is a public forum, you have no shred of evidence at All.
It's very obvious you have a taste for LIES and FALSEHOOD.
EVERYTHING FAKE rocks your boat.
Still, I'm not surprised.

Edyice:
Yes
JESUS is LORD

JESUS is God

Jesus disciples asked him how can we see the FATHER
Jesus said those who has seem me has seen my FATHER.... John 14 : 9

Please explain John 20:17,30-31 and Revelation 3:5,11,12,21.
Shalom

Shelumiel:
So its now forgery? Hahaha... . I can see the JW in you speaking. But this is the typical sayings from an occultic movement setup by the Antichrist mininister Charles Russell Tuze

You're sharing FAKE NEWS..
Just as your KJV 1 John 5:7 is FAKE.

I'm not surprised.

Shelumiel:
Oga, you keep looking for the word "Son of God " making it sound as if these three (FATHER, SON AND SPIRIT) are different personages but forgetting the ( basic ) fact that Jesus is call the word of God! Word of God. Does that ring a bell? Now we are told that the " Word of God " was God (John 1:14).
And that The Father, Word and Spirit are one. (1 John 5:7). So this excludes any mere differences you're assuming...or trying to assume.

Stop deceiving yourself with the forgery of king James version of 1 John 5:7, internet is there for you to research how that FORGERY came into the king James version.
. Go and learn !!
Google "1 John 5:7 Biblehub",
(read the info you will see thoroughly.)
You are not really interested in the truth otherwise,you would have responded to the 4 questions i asked you..
Even your pastor can not use his Bible to disprove the question & the Scriptures

Why does Jesus Christ (your "God" have his Father and his God in heaven?



Revelation 3:5,12.
5The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels."


11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name"

Shelumiel:
Bros, you're not explaining anything, and from your writeup all I see is a pathetic reason for not being able to harmonize all the verses being mentioned about Jesus being God (or in this case not being God). Shalom

In your Bible,
Yahweh calls men (Elohim, "God" and the holy Scriptures calls men Elohim (Exodus 7:1. Psalms 82:1,6. 1Cor8:5-6.), it proves nothing if Christ is referred to as "God"

Dearie, I have 4 questions for you:
Is the spiritual realm stronger than the physical realm?
Who does Jesus Christ says he is in the physical realm and in the spiritual realm?
Please explain Matt 16:13-17. John 20:17,30-31 and Revelation 3:5,11,12 (here cited below).

Why does Jesus Christ (your "God" have his Father and his God in heaven? (Acts3:13).



Revelation 3:5,12.
5The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels."


11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. "

Shalom.

Shelumiel:
Sir just follow the thread and see them

Thomas is very INFERIOR to Jesus, He is a disciple. Jesus Christ is his master.
As I have already explained, Thomas exclamation of surprise (John 20:28 ) to remove his doubts (John 20:25) can NOT refute John 20:17,30,31.
If Thomas is your saviour and Master, no problem.
I stand gidigba on the words of Master Jesus Christ ( John 20:17,30-31. Matt 16:13-17. John 17:3. Rev3:5,12). addressing his followers.
Jesus Christ says his God in heaven is also the God of Thomas (John 20:17. 1 Cor 3:23).
In the spiritual realm, Jesus Christ is a servant of the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob. Acts3:13.
Shalom.

Shelumiel:
Those who keep saying Jesus is not God cannot refute the verses that say. Why?

Which verse?

Fididiguy:
Thomas is a disciple of Christ but had doubting spirit disturbing him, some of us knows God but yet we doubt, in verse 28, the middle verse Thomas said to Jesus my Lord and my God as against many of false misinformation Bible twister were teaching people


_*John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.*_



*_20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God._*



_*20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.*_

Why are you twisting the holy Scriptures?
Is Thomas telling you that Jesus is Almighty God?
Read John 20:1-30 with wisdom and understanding....
John 20:14-17, Mary Magdalene was the first to see the resurrected Jesus,initially she did not recognize him.

John 20:19-21,2 4, Jesus for the first time appears to his disciples, Thomas wasn't there.

John 20:25, Thomas said he doesn't believe Jesus resurrection,"...unless I stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe"

John 20:29:
Jesus said to him:"because you have seen me (resurrected), have you believed?
Happy are those who do not see (the resurrected Jesus) and Yet believe."
We never saw the resurrected Jesus,but today
we believe that Jesus Christ resurrected because we walk by faith not by sight" 2 Cor5:7.
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See why your claim of John 20:28 is not true..
John 20:31,
"But these have been written that you may BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ the SON of God,and that because of believing (he is the son of God), you may have life by means of his name"

Please Note
John 20:17 is Jesus Christ confirmation of John 20:31.
Jesus Christ NEVER told Thomas he is Almighty God,John20:17& Matt 16:13-17, Jesus Christ revealed to his disciples, including Thomas", I am ascending to my God and your God".
Thomas is Jesus disciples, Jesus Christ is his master, John 20:17 is very authoritative than Thomas exclamation..
Besides, if you check different Bible versions of John 20:28 it ends with exclamation sign (!).

Exclamation sign(!)
New International Version
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

New Living Translation
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed.

English Standard Version
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
New King James Version
And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Berean Study Bible
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”

Thomas speech conveys surprise, shock. For instance, "Oh my God"! Oh my Lord!"
Thomas doubts of verse25 gives way to surprise in Verse28 that Jesus resurrected.
Thomas NEVER said Christ is Almighty God...
Again, Thomas was not speaking for other disciples. He never said "Our God"
Rather, He is surprised and exclaimed that his doubts(John 20:25) had been addressed.


Shalom.

This is the very reason the Psalmist calls them "foolish"..
Brain scrubbed,deluded fools..

It seems you are confused..
See the PROOF :
You claimed:
The owner of the farm is God. His servants are the prophets (Enoch, Abraham, Moses etc) . His son is Jesus Christ, whom the world killed. The man (the owner) who decides to go back to the farm Himself is no other than the Lord Jesus Christ himself; who is God Himself. See for yourself...

You are trying so hard to ADD your own theory to what the Bible says......
Does God Almighty have a father?

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The Bible says:
Acts 10:42
"And he ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead.


Acts 17:31

because God has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man (Jesus) whom He (God) has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Jesus from the dead."


John 5:22
"For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,

John 5:27
and God gave him authority to execute judgment, because Jesus is the Son of Man.

John 5:30

"I can do nothing on My own initiative As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent me"
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As you can see from the holy Scriptures above & confirmed by Jesus (John 5:22,30), Yahweh gave his son "ALL authority in heaven and earth" (Matt 28:18) to execute judgment (2Thess 1:7-9).


For example, your Father gives you this assignment:
"Precious, issue a quit notice to all my tenants?
You went ahead to execute the assignment, who will be said to have given the tenants quit notice?
It's the Landlord,your Father... That is what you reading in Mark12:9.......

The Father Yahweh resurrected his son, Jesus , & gave him "all authority" (Matt 28:18) to judge and destroy the evil tenants who reject the gospel (2Thess1:7-9).
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John 17:3, Jesus Christ says himself is not the one true God , Yahweh in heaven (Rev 3:5,12,21) and earth (John 20:17).
In heaven and earth Jesus Christ is a servant of the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. (Acts3:13).
Shalom

freenature:
Its called Capybara. Its a very gentle animal. You shouldn't have even killed it. You could have raised it as a pet. It can grow as large as a big pig but can never destroy stuff but eats grass.

Capybara is not native to Africa at all !
It's home is South America...

That animal looks like the specie of mongoose common to west Africa.

GRIMMJOE:
Christianity exist before Jehovah witness, stop stealing peoples religion and give them back their Bible.

Isaiah 42:10-12 (ASV) is older than Christianity.
Let me shock you:
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness. He is the servant of Jehovah,the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... Rev 3:5,12-14. Acts3:13. John 7:16. John 17:3. John 20:17.

sagenaija:
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Thank you for your WONDERFUL answers!

It has given me an insight into how you fared in your academics.

Cheers!

Bros, you make me laugh...
What has what your Bible says & Jesus says got to do with my academics?

The Jews said Jesus committed blasphemy because he says he is the son of God. (John 19:6-7. John 10:36).
I asked you: what is the blasphemy in Jesus statement, you have been dodgy about it.
Breaking the laws of Exodus 20:1-7 is regarded as blasphemy by the Jews, shine your eyes.



John 17:22
I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one-
Whatever you might mean by "the glory", Jesus Christ is speaking to you at John 17:22.
Apply "the glory" to Jesus's disciples...

Bros,you proved to be a "very nice teacher" who refused to supply answers to the 4 questions you raised, (if only to help me & others understand & increase our knowledge).
Na "Very nice teacher" no dey supply answers to his own questions wey him say his students no know the answers....
Shalom

Shelumiel:
Oga your point is super baseless. In John4:1 you quoted earlier, Jesus told His disciples to believe in God and to believe in Him, right? . Now if you had read further you would see that His discpiles wanted to know who His Father was (because He always spoke about His Father), which then bring us to the John14:9-14 in which Jesus clearly speaks to His disciples (like Philip) on who He really was. Now, according to the scripture, Jesus is the only Person who knows who the Father is (Matthew 11:27)... and it is only Him (Jesus) that can reveal the Father to anyone. Or are you saying you know Jesus better than Himself or the Father..? Lol

"Jesus Christ is the only person who knows 'who the Father is" i agree with you...
Did Jesus Christ tell you he is the Father?

Shelumiel:
Oga, you are just deceiving yourself by prolonging matters. Jesus is God. He made this clear in John 14:9-10 when Philip wanted to know who He really was. Phillip had previously asked Him to show them the Father (God) but what did He say them : "Have I been with you so long that you do not know Me. He who has seen Me has seen the Father, so how can you say show us the Father? Don't you know that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me...?(John14:9-14) ". This is clearly revelation of who Jesus really was. So stop being silly.

Does God have a Father?
John 14:9-10, you claim Jesus is God & John 17:3,Jesus says he is not "the ONE TRUE God".
Why does Jesus contradict your claim in John 14:9-10 ?
Either your claim of John 14:9-10 is false or Jesus Christ is lying at John 17:3, please address this discrepancy....

sagenaija:
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You appear to have not clearly got my questions. Let me clarify them:
1. The Jews may have cooked up a FALSE ALLEGATION of blasphemy against Jesus. What EXACTLY did they mean by blasphemy?

2. What did Jesus mean by saying "because I said, 'I am the Son of God?'"

3. What is glory?

4. What does it mean for Jesus to have had it "before the creation of the world"? (Note: I was not asking who gave him the glory).

Q1:
"blasphemy" (meaning to show gross disrespect, insult to Yahweh or His holy name).
Q2.
Jesus means what he said: he is not God Almighty,Yahweh. Study 1 Cor11:3. 1 Cor3:23.
Q3.
Elevated/Exalted position of Power/authority.
Jesus can NEVER be equal with his God& Father in heaven.
Q4
The God& Father placed Jesus in an exalted , position (of power,authority) before creation..
Them no be mate for heaven..

Bros, Jesus Christ says he is inferior to his God & Father in heaven (spiritual realm) and on earth (physical realm) Revelation 3:5,12,21. John 20:17.

sagenaija:
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Sometimes comprehension is difficult if one skims over a writeup.

In John 19:36  What are the Jews referring to by accusing Jesus of blasphemy? And what did Jesus mean by saying "because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?"

In John 17:24 what is 'glory'? And if Jesus had it "before the creation of the world" what does that mean?

Maybe your answers will clear things for me.

It seems you're referring to John 10:36, not John 19:36....


Your Question:
What are the Jews referring to by accusing Jesus of blasphemy?

My Answer: The Jews referred to their cooked up FALSE ALLEGATION of blasphemy..
. John 19:6-7.
6.......“You take Him and impale Him,” Pilate replied, “for I find no basis for a charge against Him.” 7“We have a law,” answered the Jews, “and according to that law He must die, because He declared Himself to be the Son of God.”…

(Compare John 10:36).

Bros,is it actually blasphemy for Jesus Christ to say "I am the son of God?" Or to say God is his Father?
Please think am well......
Jesus Christ NEVER blaspheme..


John 17:24 Jesus himself said he was GIVEN THE GLORY ( his Father elevated him ) "before the creation of the world."

Bros,do you agree with Jesus?

His Superior (His God & Father in heaven) gave Jesus the glory Jesus had.
(Rev 3:5,12. 1Cor11:3. 1 Cor3:23.)
Bros,do you agree?

sagenaija:
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See what his hearers understood him to have said:
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Also:
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began".

Bros,let Jesus Christ reply your claim & the false claim of the Jews who accused him....

John 10:36, Jesus says:

"Do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God '?"
'
Bros,Jesus says his accusers were lying.
Bros, Jesus Christ says your claim is not true.

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Bros, let Jesus Christ reply your claim in John 17:5......


John 17:24
""Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world."

Bros, Jesus Christ says "the glory YOU (his FATHER) HAVE GIVEN Me" ( Jesus) ..... before the creation of the world"
The glory NEVER belonged to Jesus until he received it from his Father..
Bros, Jesus Christ himself says your claim is not true.. (Compare Matt28:18).
Shalom


Shalom.

sagenaija:
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Justright34, You picked only ONE statement of Jesus and you want to build your entire claim on it. But if I pick a portion of the Koran where it says "FIGHT all non-Moslems" you will cry foul.

Look at the other claims by Jesus:
"I and the Father are One [in essence and nature].”
John 10:30 AMP

"But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe Me or have faith in Me, [at least] believe the works [that I do--admit that they are the works of God], so that you may know and keep on knowing [clearly--without any doubt] that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father [that is, I am One with Him].”
John 10:38 AMP

"Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe [Me] because of the [very] works themselves [which you have witnessed].
John 14:11 AMP

Jesus's quote of Deuteronomy in Mark 12:29 uses 'one' to mean "unified oneness". It does not mean 'one' as in number. The Hebrew has another word that means 'ONLY ONE'. Therefore that statement refers to God as being "UNIQUE" and not as God being only one singular person.

So, while Jesus is stating that God is UNIQUE in that portion of Mark gospel he equally affirms in the other passages I quoted and many others that he is part of that UNIFIED ONENESS with God.

You're trying so hard to put Trinitarians twist into the holy Scriptures...

Your claims on John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 not true...
Why?
John 10:30,38,&14:11 equal to John 17:20-23, 1Cor3:5-8,23.

John 10:30 equal to 1Cor3:5-8.. Paul and Apollos are One just as God and Christ followers are one..(John 17:20-23).
The same point Jesus Christ made in John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 he further emphasized in John 17:20-23..
You dey see am?


John10:30 also equal to Matt10:40 ,Jesus and his followers are Representatives, teaching the message that the Most High ,Yahweh gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

Zooposki:
It also renders the male infertile. You no go fit born again. That is the population control. Kill the old and render the young infertile. Lolz.

Coded biological warfare unleashed, IMHO.
Na so village man dey see am.

Aquilapriscilla:
I was reading your post ,but when I came to the portion that says 1john5:7
Is fraud,I concluded you are not someone I should converse with
Iam just quoting to remind you of 2timothy 3:16,17
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

My dear the truth is bitter...
All Scriptures is inspired of God, but some parts of KJV were not. For instance,1john5:7(KJV).
Your pastors knows it but few would admit it in public.


Go ahead & cure your ignorance....
Go & read 1 John 5:7 in different Bible versions..
You would notice that KJV says something different from others...
Begin your research from there....
Please "Google 1John5:7 Biblehub."
You're learn more....

The info below is from Bibleref....
Source:Bible ref.com/1John5:7..

"1 John 5:7 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓]
1 John 5:7, NIV: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, ESV: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, KJV: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 John 5:7, NASB: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, NLT: "So we have these three witnesses--"

1 John 5:7, CSB: "For there are three that testify:"

What does 1 John 5:7 mean? [⇑ See verse text ⇑]
This short verse simply emphasizes John's claim that there is evidence proving Jesus is the Son of God. In verse 6, these were defined as the water, the blood, and the Spirit. These refer to God's voice at Jesus' baptism, His crucifixion and resurrection, and the witness of the Holy Spirit. In verse 8, John will note that these three agree. In verse 9, John points out that the testimony of God is greater than that of men, making his a powerful and convincing argument that Jesus is the Son of God.

Some have suggested that water and blood refer to the Father and Son to make the case that all three Persons of the Trinity are involved in the testimony. While possible, this is unlikely since John is providing testimony that Jesus is God's Son. He would not use Jesus as testimony since He would be testifying for Himself (John 5:31). This would explain why John uses the concepts of water and blood as the two others who testify that Jesus is God's Son.

The transition between this verse and verse 8 is sometimes the subject of controversy. The source material of the King James Version, the Textus Receptus, adds a reference to "the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost." This phrase is not found in any of the earliest manuscripts, and wasn't even in the earliest produced copies of the Textus Receptus. A likely explanation is that the passage was harmonized for use in liturgy. Over time, this harmonization found its way into manuscript copies. Once included in the Latin Vulgate, it became widespread."


Shalom.

solite3:
who told you that is my church? And yes winners chapel has alot of freemason symbols.
I have a book written by taze Russell and it is full of occult symbols anf terminologies.

Let's test your integrity......
I challenge you to post the photos of your residential building as well as your Church edifice. (you don't have to name your Church) on this forum, let's independently verify there's no pyramids in the church edifice..

What a fictitious claim you're making about Charles Russell's book!
My Questions to you:
Is winner's chapel freemasonry?
Is Oyedepo freemasonry?

Aquilapriscilla:
Good morning sir, there is something called the trinity in Christianity;
God the father
God the son
God the Holy spirit(or Holy spirit)
They are 3 different personalities but they are one in the sense that they act in unison or uniformity in everything they want to do. Open to Genesis 1vs26 please use king James version----can you see the word let 'us'? This is a classical example of the Trini coming together to perform a duty or bring something into existence.
Open Genesis 3:22 pls use king James version--can you see God talking there again? "" and the lord God said,behold,man has become as one of "us" ""
Open to Genesis 11:6-7 pls use KJV --can you see God talking there again? "And the LORD said,behold the people is one and they all have one language............ now let "us"
go there and confound their language, that they may not understand one another speech.
Now let us go to the new testament
1John 5 verse 7 (KJV) can you see what John the beloved was writing there? "There are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,the Word, the Holy Ghost and these three are one" Now I know you are kind of confuse and asking yourself which one is "the word" again ? The word there refers to Jesus Christ I.e God the son. How did I know?open John 1and read verses 1,2,3,4,14(now the same person wrote the books of John, and 1John. In the book of John he describes Jesus as the word, and this word became flesh and dwelt among us. Do you understand?? So that is why when he was writing the book of 1 John he chooses to "use the word" )
Now to further explain your first question Jesus can be quoted in several portions of the gospel saying things like
John 10 verse 30 --- I and my father are one
John 7verse 29--But I know Him for Iam from him and he hath sent me
John 5verse 36--But I have greater witness than that of John,for the same works which the father hath given me to finish,the same works I do that bear witness of me,that the father hath sent me. ..

Gen1:26, God disclosed His idea to create,to another being , don't twist it,abeg you.
Who came up with the idea to create man,
Is He a Triune being or a Supreme Being?


Gen1:27 God created the man in his image... HE created the man...'
I know say you go school....
"His", Na how many persons?
"He" , Na how many persons?


Gen3:22,Gen11:6-7, your claim is built on faulty premise... why ?
God is a spirit (NOT 3 spirits. John 4:24).


1 John 5:7 is a confirmed FORGERY not originally in the holy Scriptures.. (Do a serious research on it , don't use FRAUD to support FRAUD.).

John 1:1 the word is theos (a god/God, Greek meaning of theos).
The word is WITH tov Theon (the God, Greek meaning facing towards the God.
One being can NEVER face himself).
John 1:18 no man has seen God at anytime...
The emphasis: "At anytime" renders Trinitarians interpretation of John 1:1,14 USELESS...

John 7:29,Aquillapriscilla is from her Father who sent her,how does that prove that she is her Father?

Your claims on John 10:30 is not true...
Why?
John 10:30 equal to John 17:20-23.

John 10:30 equal to 1Cor3:5-8.. Paul and Apollos are One just as God and Christ followers are one..(John 17:20-23).
You dey see am?


John10:30 equal to Matt10:40 ,Jesus and his followers are Representatives, teaching the message that the Most High ,Yahweh gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

Justright34:
Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"



The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes



Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?


Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

Q1..
After the death of Jesus early apostles, pagan philosophies crept into Christianity and polluted the teaching in the holy Scriptures..
2Tim 4:1-3..
In verse1, there is a clear distinction that God& Christ Jesus are different Beings, you dey see am?
1st John 2:18-23,Anti Christs (triune pagan deity devotees) deny the Biblical distinction between the Father and the son.. (John 14:1. John 20:17. John 17:3)
Trinity is a demonic doctrine,quote me anywhere.

Q2:
Triune pagan deity devotees (alias "'Christians'" ) make that false claim..

Q3..
Your son can be your messenger, you no dey go message for your Father?
Jesus Christ says he is both a Messenger & the son of God . John 7:16. John 17:3. John 3:16-17 , John12:49,50.
Yahweh confirmed Jesus is his son.- Matt3:16,17
Jesus apostles said so.. 1Cor 11:3. Acts3:13.

Q4: for the reasons given at Q1...

lindq:
People in high places? Hahahahaha!

Now that's really funny.

This is a satelite image Riko2, please don't embarrass yourself my dear.

Chai !!!!

Your education (at whatever level) is an embarrassment to you and your society..

Tueh !!!!

lindq:
*Chills**

This is the creepiest thing I've ever seen in a long time.

A man on FB (presumably a Jehovah's Witness) was complaining that his cousin (whom he claims is based in Silkeborg, Denmark) sent him some screenshots of what he saw on Google Earth App when he searched for a nearby Kingdom Hall in Silkeborg, Denmark. On finding one located at Helsinkivej area, he saw staring at him this horrendous image that has kept him horrified for days (according to him).

Take a look at the picture below...

Or search for "Jehovas Vidners Stævneplads" (which Google Translate translates as [url=https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=_m&q=Jehovas+Vidners+St%C3%A6vneplads]"Jehovah's Witness Venue"[/url] ) on your Google Earth App.

Very stupid post..
Bigotry has blinded your eyes and sense to the fact that freemasonry symbols were DUBIOUS insertion into the Google map shared by the crooked original poster of the fake story.
Na which Google map dey use freemasonry symbols?
Is there no pyramids in the church edifice where you go for worship?
Bigoted idiocy everywhere....
Tueh !!!!

solite3:
did you really searched it?

Very nonsensical post...
What is there to research?
Come here and lie that the church edifice where you worship have no pyramids....
Solite3 mumu Pharisee...

GuyWise101:
I am a young guy who once believed in God and loved the work of God but now some situations are drawing me to doubt his exitence.

Q1
If God is real why are there so many evil in the world? (satan?)
Q2
Is Satan that powerful that God couldn't and havn't destroyed him since creation.

Q3
If God is real why is it that when we pray it will go unanwsered? (the bible says, even if we pray we can't change the mind of God that he works in his own time.


What is Gods time; maybe when you have worked hard to achieve your dream).



When someone die, we say it is God's plan, God to me looks like a dictator and not a father, he decides when to kill you without your consent even when you pray for more life it will go unanswered.

The answers you seek are in your Bible but you have to make out time to study with an open mind....

Q1
1 John 5:19... 2Tim3:1-7.. Matt 24:3-22...

Q2
In the Garden of Eden, Satan challenged God's sovereignty, (God's right to rule& make laws to govern Adam/mankind.). Jeremiah 10:23.
Note that:
Satan didn't tell Eve /Adam that God is powerless.
For instance,you're a Mathematics teacher, teaching a class of 40 students.. if one of your students claims that you're not teaching them well,that your maths solving is faulty...
What would you do?
What if you Banish the Rebellious student out of your class indefinitely ?
Would that resolve the issue?
Some of his mates may take sides with him, he has created doubts in their minds....
Why not give the rebellious student the benefit of the doubt , allow him access the teaching board to prove to the entire class that his claims are true.....
That is the what God has done.... He has allowed the Devil time to prove his claims "is true God said you should do this or that"?
If you decide for yourself you will be like God bla bla bla....
Q3
There are principles for prayers to be answered..
Do you follow them?

1.Faith/solid believe- Hebrews11:6.James1:5-7 Isaiah 59:1
2.Humble yourself(humility) 2Chro 7:14-15. Luke 18:10-14. 2 chro33:10-13.
3. Sin/Unrepentance. Isaiah 1:10-18. Isaiah 59:2.
4. Ask. /Pray until something happens 1kings3:5. Matt 7:7,8. Luke 18:1-7.
5. Avoid Showy prayers. Matt6:5-7.
Model prayer is a guide Matt 6:9-13.
6. John 14:6 pray in Jesus name.
7. Say "Amen" once. Ephesians 3:14-21
The starting point is pray for forgiveness of sins and any hindrance to your prayers.. Isaiah 44:22. Psalms 51:1-4.
BUILD your faith in Jehovah God thru diligent Bible study and prayers.. JWs can help you do so..

Shalom

GRIMMJOE:
You call your self a true Christian yet you can't perform miracles.

GRIMMJOE Na true Christian....
Pls go with your pastorpreneurs & their TV Crew to NCDC,Yaba Isolation Centre & heal the Coronavirus patients there.... Make we see am on TV...