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true2god:
A typical JW technique, emotional blackmail and making one feel guilty and then present your so-called 'Bible truth'. That has never worked against me. Face the fact I am presenting and don't attempt to make me feel guilty, the same way you make your prospects feel guilty, so that you can give me your watchtower alternative.

I am smarter than that bro and I will keep correcting people where they have gone wrong. I don't say I am perfect but I am smart enough to understand your elementary JW tricks.

You claimed JWs "attack the doctrines of other Christian groups"
These points below which you know it's true but you labelled "emotional blackmail", & "elementary tricks".
Mr true2god,your dishonesty is not smartness.
(*
Which of the holy books says you
should pay membership fees to
business centres owned by
pastorpreneurs?

*
Is Christmas, birthday celebrations
approved by Jesus Christ in the bible?


*
Jesus Christ condemned beliefs,
doctrine and traditions contrary to
scriptures, what is the crime when JWs
copy Jesus example?
*
In your place of worship, does the
Preacher not condemn the practices of
most Muslims which your holy book
forbids?)

https://www.nairaland.com/3847724/
identify-perfect-guy-billboard-it

When your Imam condemns those things which your holy book forbids which most Muslims indulge in, it's "emotional blackmail" to you.

Pls, quantirinu to deceive yourself.
JWs have no apologies for speaking the truth.
Who wan vex,make him dey vex. Na him own cup of tea.

true2god:
Your watchtower magazine is filled with hatred for other Christian groups. They constantly attack their doctrines and, at times, individuals for their stance on the scriptures. It is hypocritical for JWs to claim persecution while they attack other people's beliefs in their magazines. How many JWs have been arrested, imprisoned, attacked or maligned for being JWs in Nigeria?

*Which of the holy books says you should pay membership fees to business centres of pastorpreneurs?

* Is Christmas, birthday celebrations approved by Jesus Christ in the bible?

* Jesus Christ condemned beliefs, doctrine and traditions contrary to scriptures, what is the crime when JWs copy Jesus example?

* In your place of worship, does the Preacher not condemn the practices of most Muslims which your holy book forbids?

https://www.nairaland.com/3847724/identify-perfect-guy-billboard-it


* "How many JWs have been maligned for being JWs in Nigeria?"
That's what you're doing here..

* Mr true2god, you are a confirmed bigot.
Pls, proceed to Islamic thread and catch your fun.
Shalom.

rottennaija:
(*1)
So here no one knows every details of Jesus ministry but in your point 3, you know Paul must definitely to his fellow believer.

(*2)
So who did Philip referred the Eunuch to?

(*3)
We know Jesus was alive, he had his disciples and John also had his. We also know that they communicated, but in all instances of their communication, Jesus didn't ask them to come belong to his group. (but somehow, it's not mere speculation but details are not known)

(*4)
But your mere speculation theory doesn't acknowledge the fact that 2 of John's disciples follow Jesus immediately John showed him as the messiah.


(*5)
Let me ask you here? Who were God's chosen people when Jesus was on earth? The Jews? Or Jesus disciples?


(*6)
Here is where your confusion is, Paul must definitely . But the account said the event that took place.

So what you did is use logical Reason, Jesus refer Paul his people. Then Paul must have referred them, where you have no knowledge of it and where the account explicitly stated the events. On the one hand, you said "no one knows every detail of Jesus ministry on earth" while on the other, you presume to know every details of Paul's ministry.


(*7).
This is why JWs cannot defend their theory and believe when you meet someone who knows the scriptures. Your write up are filled with impositions of what you want to believe into bible account.

@7).Rottennaija BIG LIE as usual.

*6)
1Cor11;1, "imitate me as I imitate Christ"
2Thess2:14,15.1Cor4:17, 2 Tim2:2,Paul taught believers everywhere the same things he received from Christ. rottennaija CONFUSED.

*5)
John14:6. Matt23:37,38. 5:20.

*3 & *4)
I already made it obvious before, I quoted John1:35-40. 3:25-36.

@2) Acts 8:12, John7:16. Matt24:14. Mark1:14,15.whose gospel?
1 Corinthians 3:23 and you belong to
Christ, and Christ belongs to God. John15:15.

(*1).Acts 9:3-20. Further info on (*6).
Imitate Paul as him copy Jesus.

@1)
Achorladey :Even the wisest of King in ISRAEL
dwell in the midst of Israelites and
CONTINUE to worship PAGAN GODS of
all the LANDS surrounding them. Na
RAHAB you SEE. HAHAHAHAHAHA. E
get as e be. Perhaps you need to see
1st and 2nd Kings again see the
records of King of Israel and Judah
regarding PAGAN worship."
That still did not change
this.................. but in every nation the
person who fears him and does what
is right is welcomed before him. Job a
case STUDY."

Is Job a case study for idol worship?
** 1Cor 10:1-14.
Emphasis on vs 7 and vs 14.
7:"Neither become idolaters,as some of them did"
14:" Therefore my beloved, FLEE FROM IDOLATRY"

Achorladey, what's the results and consequences for those Israelites and their Kings who practiced idolatry?
What's Jehovah's obligations for every king of Israel?

(*2)
Achorladey: You struggling hard to add
GROUP into that scripture. Hahahahaha E
get as e be for you."

Achorladey:,What is the meaning of "People"?
Pls, feel free to concoct the meaning from your LIETIONARY.

achorladey:
Janosky: Why is achorladey twisting the holy Bible?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha don't worry its from DECEIVING himself to TWISTING the HOLY BIBLE. You go see yourself for mirror very soon.

Janosky: Joshua 2:9 “I know the Lord is handing this land over to you"
vs10 "For we heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea before you when you left Egypt"
achorladey , who be the "YOU" Rahab referred to?

Achorladey: How does landing something over to someone and the red sea dried before YOU equates to be in FEAR and DOING something ACCEPTABLE to GOD?



Rahab FEARED God and was DOING the RIGHT thing in the SIGHT of GOD in the WAY she ATTENDED to the TWO SPIES. Oga Janosky, YOU SEE AM? This one no be case of JOINING ISRAELITES.

Janosky: (*1*A)
Joshua 6:25, "Rahab dwells in the midst of Israel". Compare Deut 9:4,5. Lev18:26-30.

Achorladey: Joshua 6:25......Yet Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, her father’s family, and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this very day BECAUSE SHE HID THE MESSENGERS JOSHUA SENT TO SPY on JERICHO.

Why did Joshua spared RAHAB? based on what PETER said but in EVERY NATION the PERSON WHO FEARS him and does what is right is WELCOMED before HIM. Response right in front of you. Hahahahaha.

Janosky: achorladey, will Rahab dwell in the midst of Israelites and continue to worship pagan gods of Jericho?

Even the wisest of King in ISRAEL dwell in the midst of Israelites and CONTINUE to worship PAGAN GODS of all the LANDS surrounding them. Na RAHAB you SEE. HAHAHAHAHAHA. E get as e be. Perhaps you need to see 1st and 2nd Kings again see the records of King of Israel and Judah regarding PAGAN worship.

That still did not change this.................. but in every nation the person who fears him and does what is right is welcomed before him. Job a case STUDY.

Janosky: Matt 1:5-17, Will a pagan woman become the ancestress of Jesus Christ?

Achorladey: Na only RAHAB you see for the passage, hahahahahahah, where you put TAMAR? It still did not change this statement of Peter ........ but in EVERY NATION the PERSON who FEARS him and does what is right is WELCOMED before him. Even up to the extent of making THEM ancestresses of Jesus Christ. Hahahahaha. are the PAGANS not part of EVERY NATION.

Janosky: Hebrew 11:4-31, who be the pagans in that passage?

Achorladey: Was the writer of Hebrew differentiating between PAGANS and the rest in the book of Hebrews? Hebrews 11:39.... And these all were commended for their FAITH. Now you have a reply to your question and there is this to sort out
Acts 10: 35.....but in EVERY NATION the person who fears him and does what is right is welcomed before him. Are PAGANS not part of EVERY NATION.


Janosky: * achorladey receive sense.*

Achorladey: If the sense is lacking you would not be having this conversation with me. Na your way, its not new. It equally tell about your personality

Janosky: (*2)
Galatians1:11,12,15-17, Paul says "that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.' I did not go to ask advice from any human being," to preach the gospel.
achorladey stop twisting the holy Bible.

Achorladey: Na twist you see, you will see WINDING the HOLY BIBLE.

Janosky: (*2*A).
1 Peter 2:10 "But you are now God's people"
1Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow HIS STEPS closely."
Who did Christ leave a model for?
Answer=God's people. (A group).

Achorladey: You struggling hard to add GROUP into that scripture. Hahahahaha E get as e be for you.

Janosky: Inspite of these rebellious children on this thread

.

Leviticus 18:21,25,26.
21 “‘You must not allow any of your
offspring to be offered* to Moʹlech. + You
must not profane the name of your God in
that way. + I am Jehovah.
+
25 Therefore, the land is unclean, and I will
bring punishment on it for its error, and the
land will vomit its inhabitants out. + 26 But
you yourselves must keep my statutes and
my judicial decisions, + and you must not do
any of these detestable things, whether a
native or a foreigner who is residing among
you. "

Achorladey falsely claimed
Rahab will continue to practice prostitution and idol worship with the fear of Jehovah , in the midst of the Israelites..
Leviticus 18:21,25,26, Jehovah may be is not saying it in Yoruba, so that Achorladey will sandastand.
Achorladey you dey see your life !!!!

Janosky, YOU SEE AM? This one no be case of JOINING ISRAELITES.

** Joshua 6:25......Yet Joshua spared Rahab and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this very day..."

No,Rahab left Jericho to join Achorladey in his family house to this very day..
Oturugbeke !!
Achorladey DEY LIE like kilode.

***
Achorladey: Na only RAHAB you see for the passage, hahahahahahah, where you put TAMAR? It still did not change this statement of Peter ........ but in EVERY NATION the PERSON who FEARS him and does what is right is WELCOMED before him. "

Achorladey, is idol worship right and acceptable to Jehovah God?

Where you see Tamar for Matt 1:1-17 and Hebrews 11:1-39?
In your Bible is pagan worship counted as "righteousness?"


***

achorladey:
Janosky: Why is achorladey twisting the holy Bible?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha don't worry its from DECEIVING himself to TWISTING the HOLY BIBLE. You go see yourself for mirror very soon.

Janosky: Joshua 2:9 “I know the Lord is handing this land over to you"
vs10 "For we heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea before you when you left Egypt"
achorladey , who be the "YOU" Rahab referred to?

Achorladey: How does landing something over to someone and the red sea dried before YOU equates to be in FEAR and DOING something ACCEPTABLE to GOD?



Rahab FEARED God and was DOING the RIGHT thing in the SIGHT of GOD in the WAY she ATTENDED to the TWO SPIES. Oga Janosky, YOU SEE AM? This one no be case of JOINING ISRAELITES.

Janosky: (*1*A)
Joshua 6:25, "Rahab dwells in the midst of Israel". Compare Deut 9:4,5. Lev18:26-30.

Achorladey: Joshua 6:25......Yet Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, her father’s family, and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this very day BECAUSE SHE HID THE MESSENGERS JOSHUA SENT TO SPY on JERICHO.

Why did Joshua spared RAHAB? based on what PETER said but in EVERY NATION the PERSON WHO FEARS him and does what is right is WELCOMED before HIM. Response right in front of you. Hahahahaha.

Janosky: achorladey, will Rahab dwell in the midst of Israelites and continue to worship pagan gods of Jericho?

Even the wisest of King in ISRAEL dwell in the midst of Israelites and CONTINUE to worship PAGAN GODS of all the LANDS surrounding them. Na RAHAB you SEE. HAHAHAHAHAHA. E get as e be. Perhaps you need to see 1st and 2nd Kings again see the records of King of Israel and Judah regarding PAGAN worship.

That still did not change this.................. but in every nation the person who fears him and does what is right is welcomed before him. Job a case STUDY.

Janosky: Matt 1:5-17, Will a pagan woman become the ancestress of Jesus Christ?

Achorladey: Na only RAHAB you see for the passage, hahahahahahah, where you put TAMAR? It still did not change this statement of Peter ........ but in EVERY NATION the PERSON who FEARS him and does what is right is WELCOMED before him. Even up to the extent of making THEM ancestresses of Jesus Christ. Hahahahaha. are the PAGANS not part of EVERY NATION.

Janosky: Hebrew 11:4-31, who be the pagans in that passage?

Achorladey: Was the writer of Hebrew differentiating between PAGANS and the rest in the book of Hebrews? Hebrews 11:39.... And these all were commended for their FAITH. Now you have a reply to your question and there is this to sort out
Acts 10: 35.....but in EVERY NATION the person who fears him and does what is right is welcomed before him. Are PAGANS not part of EVERY NATION.


Janosky: * achorladey receive sense.*

Achorladey: If the sense is lacking you would not be having this conversation with me. Na your way, its not new. It equally tell about your personality

Janosky: (*2)
Galatians1:11,12,15-17, Paul says "that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.' I did not go to ask advice from any human being," to preach the gospel.
achorladey stop twisting the holy Bible.

Achorladey: Na twist you see, you will see WINDING the HOLY BIBLE.

Janosky: (*2*A).
1 Peter 2:10 "But you are now God's people"
1Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow HIS STEPS closely."
Who did Christ leave a model for?
Answer=God's people. (A group).

Achorladey: You struggling hard to add GROUP into that scripture. Hahahahaha E get as e be for you.

Janosky: Inspite of these rebellious children on this thread

.

Leviticus 18:21,25,26.
21 “‘You must not allow any of your
offspring to be offered* to Moʹlech. + You
must not profane the name of your God in
that way. + I am Jehovah.
+
25 Therefore, the land is unclean, and I will
bring punishment on it for its error, and the
land will vomit its inhabitants out. + 26 But
you yourselves must keep my statutes and
my judicial decisions, + and you must not do
any of these detestable things, whether a
native or a foreigner who is residing among
you. "

Achorladey falsely claimed
Rahab will continue to practice prostitution and idol worship with the fear of Jehovah , in the midst of the Israelites..
Leviticus 18:21,25,26, Jehovah may be is not saying it in Yoruba, so that Achorladey will sandastand.
Achorladey you dey see your life !!!!

Janosky, YOU SEE AM? This one no be case of JOINING ISRAELITES.

** Joshua 6:25......Yet Joshua spared Rahab and all who belonged to her. She lives in Israel to this very day..."

No,Rahab left Jericho to join Achorladey in his family house to this very day..
Oturugbeke !!
Achorladey DEY LIE like kilode.

byna:
We got married in 2012 and ever since then we have been blessed with 3kids (3,boys).
I have a monthly upkeep of 130k for my wife as she only comes to our factory and goes home without doing much for the day aside taking care of kids and cooking.

I noticed that each time we have a misunderstanding, we both keep straight faces for days and she behaves as though she is less concerned to make up. It doesn't affect her chores or cooking as for me I hardly reject food served.

Now, after a couple of days, she would come for sex without wanting us to discuss and resolve the disagreement first.

Even when I feel rudely insulted, this happens. She feels whatever she does doesnt matter as long as Las Las na sex go end am. But I feel it's wrong and issues should be kept straight and fun time separate.

So we had same issues last week and we have been keeping straight faces yet I've been eating her food. Sometimes she joins me for mng prayers, sometimes she does her privately ( we do together before any misunderstanding)
So this mng she appeared stark nude to my room and demanded for sex after almost 15 days. I told her it would be unfair if we sweep the pass e events under the duvet. She got up and told me she wasn't ready to discuss any past misunderstanding that she came to f*uck. I told her I wasn't ready till issues are ironed out.

She taught it was business as usually as my John Thomas always disappoint me each time I see her nude but today I was ready to turn her down.

I Want to know if it's proper to always treat ur spouse the way you like knowing fully well that sex is their weak point for reconciliation?

Mature minds pls

Na which kain prayer una go pray when una no forgive each other ? You think say that una prayers go pass ceiling? 1Peter3:7-9
Colossians 3:12-14.
OP, the truth be told, sex is no substitute for good communication.
Pls, communicate well with your wife and
you must do your duty in the other room.
1Corinthians 7:3-5.
You guys should sharp sharp have a frank talk about the issues vexing both of you..
(*1)
Bitterness and resentment in your hearts is piling up by instalments, one day wey you no expect, the volcano go explode with very dangerous consequences , I pray not.

(*2).
Good communication will make your sex life even better than before.....
The sex you have when you are at peace with your wife and totally free with her is more passionate and fulfilling than when you are doing it like robot while nursing bad belle for her.
Prolonged bitterness and resentment is breaking homes these days.
Pls, Get her a beautiful gift on your way home ,hug her and complement her... proceed to the other room for combined service....
Thereafter present the vexing issues on the table with a mindset to solve the problem without blame game.
She go mellow.

rottennaija:
Next

The Acts 10:46 - 48
And there could be no doubt about it, for they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter asked, "Can anyone object to their being baptized, now that they have received the Holy Spirit just as we did?" So he gave orders for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Afterward Cornelius asked him to stay with them for several days.

Surprisingly, the account still leaves the part where Peter directed him to jw.borg as the one and unique group worshiping God. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I'm sure in the next JW bible, new findings will be made.

Then too
We have the Ethiopian eunuch, after God's spirit directed Phillips to him and then the preaching about Jesus and the way to salvation, it concludes


The Acts 8:38 - 39
He ordered the carriage to stop, and they went down into the water, and Philip baptized him. When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away. The eunuch never saw him again but went on his way rejoicing.

Surprising also, it says the Eunuch was on his way to Jerusalem to worship. He must have been a part of Judaism, for he was reading the scroll of Isaiah. So after baptism, Jesus spirit led him away while the Eunuch continued on his way to Ethiopia rejoicing. Now, the spirit didn't direct Philip to direct the Eunuch to the one and only unique group. The confusion must be because it was the spirit of Jesus, not that of Jehovah which would definitely direct him to Jw.borg.

Is Cornelius among God's people as explained by Apostle Peter? 1 Peter 2:10,22.
Acts 15 :1-30 ,Cornelius dey for the matter?

Acts8:12, did Philip declare the good news of the kingdom of God?
Mark 1:13-15, Which good news did Jesus Christ declare?
Matt24:14,Which good news are Jehovah's witnesses commissioned to declare?
Hebrew Scriptures= Israelites (my chosen people)> my servant, Jehovah's witnesses.
Greek Scriptures- Jesus follower,disciples, God's people, cloud of witnesses
Modern day Jehovah's witnesses .
who wan vex, make e dey vex.
the truth is clear and obvious....
Rottennaija, abeg give way !!

rottennaija:
@1)
First a man casting demon with Jesus Name.

St. Mark 9:38 - 40 also Luke 8:50-51

John said to Jesus, "Teacher, we saw a man using your name to cast out demons, but we told him to stop because he isn't one of our group." Don't stop him! " Jesus said. " No one who performs miracles in my name will soon be able to speak evil of me. Anyone who is not against us is for us."

Jesus on earth, with his unique one and only group, didn't ask the man to join his one and only unique group. Today, Jesus would direct them to Jw.borg

@2)
Another
John has disciples, who use to meet with Jesus to discus. (see Mt 9:14-16) At one point, they approach Jesus asking if he is the messiah, the one sent on the behest of John who was in prison. (Mt 11:2 - 6; Luke 7:19-22) Surely, Jesus should have directed them to the one and only unique group, especially as he was in earth.

In JW theology, Jesus concluded by showing them the one and only unique group. Which is Jw.borg. I believe future watchtower Bible will be restored to reflect the corrected understanding.
@3)
Next
We have Paul's encounter with the Jailer. After he had been set freed by the angel in the middle of the night, the account tells us

The Acts 16:27 - 36

[i]

Surprisingly, the apostle Paul didn't direct him to the one and only unique group, called JWs. Of course, he couldn't because CT Russel didn't create it then. But at least, he should have directed them to the Christian gathered at the upper room.

@

@1).
Mere speculation.
John21:25, Nobody today knows every detail of Jesus ministry on earth or his encounter with that man.
Every follower of Christ must belong to Jehovah's people, including that man.
1 Peter 2:10,21 is clear enough.

@2).
Which group did Jesus belong to ?John7:16.
Jehovah's people, the lineage he came from.
Matt 1:1-17. Gal 3:7,8,13,14. . Hebr11:4-39.
John's disciples joined Jesus Christ, John1:35-42.
John3:25-36, John the Baptizer says have faith in Jesus Christ, in other words, join the group that Jesus Christ belongs to.
Jehovah calls them my servant, Jehovah's witnesses. Isaiah 43:10-12. Acts3:13.
1Peter2:10,22, Peter calls them "God's people".

@3)
After Paul's encounter with Christ,whom did Jesus Christ direct him to? Acts 9:4-20.
His disciples= God's people, Jehovah's witnesses.
Will Paul practice anything against Jesus laid down example? 1 Cor11:1.
Will Paul disobey Jesus?
Paul must definitely refer the Jailer to his fellow believers...God's people. ROM 9:25. 15:1-6.
Or do you have Scriptural proof that Paul had his bath morning, afternoon and evening?

rottennaija:
(*1)
Non Israelite entered the promise land, even those who didn't worship Jehovah.

(*2)
They entered and lived as alien, even animals that wasn't bled which Israelite wouldn't eat were commanded to be given to them to eat. (Deuteronomy 14:21)

(*3)
I keep saying, JWs knowledge of the scriptures is limited. They don't read, research or exercise their brains.

(*4)
Being a member of Israel had no bearing with worship of Jehovah. Job was not, but he worship. Isaiah was but didn't worship with his people during the day's of apostasy (similarly with JWs).

Na which country go give you entry visa when they know your occupation is against their laws?

No aliens in the midst of Israelites in the Promised Land continued with their debased practices. Deut 9:4,5. Lev 18:26-30.

(*2).
Jehovah allowed it. Yes.

(*3).
BIG LIE....

(*4).
They suffered the consequences whenever they abandoned pure worship. No blessings, no favour until repentance... (Deut 28).
2Chro7:13-15,"MY PEOPLE upon whom my name has been called" Rottenaija take note.
At Isaiah's time there were Israelites who faithfully served Jehovah without compromise.
Was Job the only one? what of Elihu & even others not mentioned by name in the scriptures?

achorladey:
No problem oga Maximus69......


John 14: 22 Judas, not Is·carʹi·ot, said to him: “Lord, what has happened that you intend to show yourself clearly to us and not to the world?” 23 In answer Jesus said to him: “If anyone loves me, he will observe my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.

I didn't see Jesus face to face while he was on EARTH neither did rottennaija yet we strive and long everyday to LOVE and observe the WORD of JESUS CHRIST. What did Jesus Christ promised if we keep doing so?

According to Jesus own WORDS........ Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.

* John14:22,23, Jesus Christ referred to his Father Jehovah and himself as "WE", both are of the same group (John20:17).
You must belong to the group they both belong to....
There is no chaos or disunity among Jehovah's people , the group that Jehovah operates through his son. (Rom9:25. 15:1-6. 1Cor 1:10. 14:33. 1 Peter2:10,22). Simple !

achorladey:
Janosky: Would Rahab be saved if she did not join the Israelites to worship Jehovah?
(*1)
Achorladey: Joshua 2: 8-14

Now before the spies went to sleep, Rahab went up to the roof. 9 She said to the men, “I know the Lord is handing this land over to you. We are absolutely TERRIFIED of you, and all who live in the land are cringing before you. 10 For we heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea before you when you left Egypt and how you annihilated the two Amorite kings, Sihon and Og, on the other side of the Jordan.
Oga Janosky, show me where RAHAB did and carried out the WORSHIP? Had you read that Acts 10:34,35 very well you would HAVE SEEN

but in every nation the person who FEARS him and DOES what is RIGHT is WELCOMED BEFORE him.

Rahab FEARED God and was DOING the RIGHT thing in the SIGHT of GOD in the WAY she ATTENDED to the TWO SPIES. Oga Janosky, YOU SEE AM? This one no be case of JOINING ISRAELITES.


Hebrews 11:31. By faith Raʹhab the prostitute did not perish with those who acted disobediently, because she received the spies in a peaceable way

(*2)
Janosky: Why is Achorladey deceiving himself?

Achorladey: You will see yourself in the mirror soon and clearly as well.

Janosky: Will Joshua and Caleb enter the Promised Land if they dissociated themselves from Israelites or renounced their status as Israelites ?

Achorladey: To do what is ACCEPTABLE and be in FEAR of God is it BY association or RENOUNCING their STATUS with ISRAELITES. Hahahahaha. E get as e be oooo. Job a study guide.


Achorladey: This is one of the "GOVERNING BODY member" as used by the JWS speaking.......

1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow HIS STEPS closely.

Below is the converted Paul speaking.........

Galatians 1: 11 Now I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. 12 For I did not receive it or learn it from any human source; instead I received it by a revelation of Jesus Christ.

. 15 But when the one who set me apart from birth and called me by his grace was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I could preach him among the Gentiles, I did not go to ask advice from any human being, 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before me, but right away I departed to Arabia, and then returned to Damascus.

(*1).
Why is Achorladey twisting the holy Bible?
Joshua 2:9 “I know the Lord is handing this land over to you"
vs10 "For we heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea before you when you left Egypt"
Achorladey , who be the "YOU" Rahab referred to?

(*1*A)
Joshua 6:25, "Rahab dwells in the midst of Israel". Compare Deut 9:4,5. Lev18:26-30.
Achorladey, will Rahab dwell in the midst of Israelites and continue to worship pagan gods of Jericho?
Matt 1:5-17, Will a pagan woman become the ancestress of Jesus Christ?
Hebrew 11:4-31, who be the pagans in that passage?
* Achorladey receive sense.*

(*2)
Galatians1:11,12,15-17, Paul says "that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.' I did not go to ask advice from any human being," to preach the gospel.
Achorladey stop twisting the holy Bible.

(*2*A).
1 Peter 2:10 "But you are now God's people"
1Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow HIS STEPS closely."
Who did Christ leave a model for?
Answer=God's people. (A group).

Inspite of these rebellious children on this thread , we JWs must shout Hallelujah!!!!

achorladey:
If its either "YOU ARE NOT GETTING IT" or "ONE IS A LIAR" na your way.

Was Joshua making a DECISION for the FOLD BINDING or FOR HIMSELF? Was JOSHUA and CALEB using GROUP THINKING to decide what they wanted to DO?

Acts 10: 34,35......... God is not partial Then Peter started speaking: “I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism in dealing with people, 35 but in every NATION the PERSON WHO fears him and does what is right is welcomed before him.

Is it by GROUP or the INDIVIDUAL PERSON?

* Numbers 13:1,2, Was the Promised Land for Joshua and Caleb alone or for the Israelites?
Would Joshua and Caleb enter the Promised Land if they were not Israelites or worshipped Jehovah as Israelites ?

Would Rahab be saved if she did not join the Israelites to worship Jehovah?
Why is Achorladey deceiving himself?

*Acts 15:14 King James Bible
"Simeon hath declared how God at the first
did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a
people for his name."

In every nation the one who fears Jehovah must join with the people (the group) Jehovah God have taken out for His name.
Will Joshua and Caleb enter the Promised Land if they dissociated themselves from Israelites or renounced their status as Israelites ?

**
Matt 9:37-38, you must join the group working for the Master of the Harvest or nothing for you.
Jesus Christ worked with a group during his earthly ministry... The group stayed united under Jesus directions through the apostles, guided by holy spirit. The conversion of Saul makes this fact explicitly clear. Acts 9:3-20.

IAmSkinny:
Waoo. Cursing truly runs in your vein. Christian my arse. . I will ignore your hypocritical and cursing self henceforth.

You're just here to rant and make baseless claims without concrete proofs. Just adopt the 'PervertProphet' moniker you're defending, make we know say you get 'sense'. No dull yourself. Shalom.

IAmSkinny:
You will go at any length to justify all the curses so I am not surprised at all.

You're just here to rant and make baseless claims without concrete proofs.

Just adopt the 'PervertProphet' moniker you're defending, make we know say you get 'sense'. No dull yourself.

Shalom.

IAmSkinny:
I believe that isn't his real name, it's just an online moniker for the purpose of anonymity. But yeah, you stooped so low; cursing and and smearing the individual with what he chose to be his moniker, even when you have zero evidence of his true personality. Wehdone sir. True Christians my left ass cheek.

pervert
verb
1. distort or corrupt the original course,
meaning, or state of (something).
"he was charged with conspiring to
pervert the course of justice"
synonyms: distort, warp, corrupt,
subvert, twist, bend, abuse, divert,
deflect, misapply, misuse,
misrepresent, misinterpret,
misconstrue, falsify, garble
2. lead (someone) away from what is
considered natural or acceptable.
"Hector is a man who is simply
perverted by his time"
synonyms: corrupt, lead astray,
deprave, make degenerate, debauch,
debase, warp, vitiate, pollute, poison,
contaminate, demoralize
noun
a person whose sexual behaviour is
regarded as abnormal and unacceptable.
synonyms: deviant, degenerate, debauchee,
perverted person, depraved person, perv,
perve, dirty old man, sicko, weirdo
PERVERT | meaning in the Cambridge
English Dictionary
https://dictionary.cambridge.org › pervert


*** prophet,definition..
/ˈprɒfɪt/
noun
1. a person regarded as an inspired
teacher or proclaimer of the will of
God."
***
Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary -
Prophet
Prophet
[S]
(Heb. nabi, from a root meaning "to bubble
forth, as from a fountain," hence "to utter",
Compare Psalms 45:1 ). This Hebrew word
is the first and the most generally used for a
prophet.....
In Josh 13:22Balaam is called (Heb.) a kosem
"diviner," a word used only of a false
prophet.

Thus a prophet was a spokesman for God;
he spake in God's name and by his authority
( Exodus 7:1 ). He is the mouth by which
God speaks to men ( Jeremiah 1:9 ; Isaiah
51:16 ),"

**
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Mr "IamSkinny", why you no add 'Pervert' to your own moniker or dey use am as your nick name?

If you have a functional God-given conscience, let it judge you.
Shalom.

The hypnotised,gullible sheeples of the pastorpreneurs swallowed the whole mess and scandal hook,line and sinker.....
Since 19gbidigbidi, Hypocrites & slaves wey dey claim "independent thinking and freedom, dey pay membership fees/dues to a global business franchise......

"Independent thinking and freedom forming sheeples no even fit challenge the Pastorpreneur to provide the SCRIPTURAL basis for the self serving rules.....

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Daily Post Nigeria

"Chris Oyakhilome sacks pastor for raising prayer points against divorce, sets new rules"


"Chris Oyakhilome sacks pastor for raising prayer points against divorce, sets new rules"
Published 5 years ago on September 6, 2014 By Adenike Orenuga



The most trending news in Nigeria at present, apart from Ebola and terrorist attacks, is that of the impending divorce of charismatic Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of the Believers’ LoveWorld, also known as Christ Embassy.
oyakhilome and wife
New reports claim Chris Oyakhilome has sacked one of his top pastors, Reverend Grace for allegedly setting up a prayer session concerning the messy divorce.

She was allegedly sacked by Pastor Chris for raising a prayer team to pray for the restoration of peace in the church’s first family when Rev Anita, who headed the London church, stopped attending services.


One of the ministers, who spoke to SUN said “We suspected this issue is going to go public some day since the day Pastor Chris sacked Rev Grace for meddling in his family affairs by openly calling for prayers among some members in London when Rev Anita stopped coming to the church she was shepherding while all efforts to get her failed.

“Some of us believe our colleague in London did the right thing by seeking spiritual help for the family, but I think Pastor Chris misread her intention and had to travel to London”.

Apart from the sack of the London pastor, another issue connected to the divorce, which has also been generating tension in the church, is the cry of female ministers who are accusing Pastor Chris of introducing “controversial rules that are now threatening the foundation of many marriages in the church”.


A female church member of one of the Christ Embassy branches in Abuja told the newspaper that “the revolt of Rev Anita will be a child’s play to the one that people will soon see when we open up on how a secret policy introduced sometime early this year has been tearing many families and homes apart in our parishes across the country.

“This is a strange directive that husbands and their wives must not worship or attend the same parish.

“Now, if a couple is a member of a parish, one of them has to be posted to another parish and this is fueling adultery in the church in no small measure. Some of us who are female ministers that have been separated from our husbands, we are already talking. Some have started revolting against the order in their parishes, while some have refused to obey such transfer orders”.


Another top female official of the church in one of the parishes located in Ikeja said: “The policy is real but it is creating tension in the church already”.

The female minister, whose husband has been transferred out of the parish they have been attending together for years to give effect to the policy further, stated: “It’s a heartbreaking development because now we know that that directive was introduced to justify why Pastor Chris has to be in Lagos and his wife in London but beyond that, it is encouraging immorality while the church believes that we have an unusual grace that covers our human failings, including adultery”.

Coming down to her personal experience, the female minister disclosed that soon after her husband was transferred to a parish far away from their initial one, “one of the male ministers where I am to stay back started winking at me.



“The first Sunday I felt he did that unknowingly or without any ulterior motive but the following Sunday he came to shake hands with me after service and what he did was to use one of his fingers to scratch my palm during the handshake.

“I was miffed but I couldn’t do anything because he will deny and I will look stupid but since then he got my message because I stopped greeting him”

rottennaija:
If numeric increase is the case, then we have a lot of religious groups God is blessing.


All you need to to accept Jesus as your way to God and you will be saved. No groups, Organisations or anything else.

"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear" - 2 Ti 4:3

.

"If numeric increase is the case, then we have a lot of religious groups God is blessing."
rottennaija false theory.

"A lot of religious groups" with conflicting doctrines and practices contrary to Jehovah's righteous standards... Jehovah and his Son can not bless.
Shebi ,Acts of the Apostles (emphasis on chapters 2,4,15 etc) no dey your bible again?
No need talking to an attention seeking renegade....


Pls stay your lane jare.

rottennaija:
Well, you have to show where I said I hate to hear the message before what you wrote above would make sense. Besides, I pay attention to everything, even thrash.

And someday, you will be like me and will see what I see.

rottennaija:
(1)
When you stopped spreading falsehood
about outer people and their religion,
(2)
when you stopped forcing people to
commit suicide and other dangerous
things,
(*3)
probably then, you will see people
leave you alone. Until then, you will
have people like me.

rottennaija:
(*4)
No, you don't worship baal, you worship the organisation and men. You see, that's why I had to stopped.

@Rottennaija:
You don't "hate to hear" the messages of (*1), (*2),(4) you falsely claimed were JWs ?
The very reasons "that's why (you) had to stopped."
Rottennaija LIAR....

I won't ,NEVER rebel against Jehovah and continue lying on NL like rottennaija....
Igbo man go say " MBANU !!!!!!"

SugarBozz:
I am someone that is not really a sex freak kind of person. I could be very romantic to the core but when it comes to sex, it could be once in a blue moon.

I met my woman about almost two years ago now, we got really close and though I tried to avoid the sex thing at the beginning because I wasn't sure if I was ready for a long time relationship, we had really romantic moments that eventually led to sex. I guess we had sex just about three times within 3 months and the next thing was that she is pregnant.

She insisted she will keep the pregnancy and I had no choice but to take responsibility, see her family, inform my family and we arranged a small single traditional wedding. During the course of the pregnancy we had sex very few times and there were times she would want sex and I will refuse because I wasn't in the mood, then she starts giving mean emotional tears which I will still ignore.

However, she got use to the fact that am I not keen on sex and decided to deal with it that way until she gave birth to our baby. She actually had to do a CS and she and the baby are doing fine.

Now the problem is that for almost a year now since she gave birth to our baby, we haven't had sex. I just don't know why I am not moved and sometimes I feel really bad and sorry for her because she gets scared to ask me for it knowing that I might refuse. I have tried to put my state of mind in a position that will enable me think of having sex with her but it doesn't work.

Not that is isn't beautiful anymore or she isn't sexy anymore. As a matter of fact I love taking her out because I love when people see her and the baby looking so cute together. We sleep on the same bed everyday and wake up happy. She treats me very well and she is very loyal. She keeps herself busy everyday (except Sundays) with the small restaurant I opened for her just in front of our house. All our neighbors like us a lot because they always see us happy and as a matter of fact no one has ever seen us having any issue before.

We look very happy because I take care of them both as a man not even paying any attention to her own restaurant business and how much she makes and she is just living very fine like we have no issue.

But deep down inside me I know we have a problem and I am the problem because I have denied her sex for almost a year now why we stay inside the same house all these time.

I just don't know if this is a spiritual problem or its just normal that I can try to do something about it.

Please no insults, I am just being sincere and straight forward.

OP, please,as a matter of urgency, go see a medical doctor, sex therapists/clinical psychologists for proper diagnosis and treatment of your low libido.....
The earlier the better before your wife's customers tempts her and be eating her "food" behind your back.
Bad mens dey everywhere preying on vulnerable married women.

georgemarcus:
Guys i think you guys have said much to buttress a point on the subject matter, but we forgot to really answer the question from the context..'Is it really wrong for a JW to marry a non witness? This lady had gone to the dad to tell him that she loves the dude and he asked if he is JW she said no and the dad told her to drop the discussion he is not interested and she never told him she is pregnant yet for this dude. Now she fears what the dad would do to her if he gets to know she is pregnant, that he might abandone her and ask her to pack out of the house. Is it really wrong for a JW to marry a non witness...whats wrong with religion in this world sef? We are too concerned about our denomination in marriage just like Deeper Life do and most churches too, they dont like to marry outside their church and Jehovah Witness do same..why? But that wasnt what the scripture said. Isnt this a huge problem to the nearest future?

It seems you're getting worked up....
OP, are you the boyfriend of the said JW girl?
please come clean....

The girl already knows she has transgressed scriptural principles regarding dating and marriage, it seems that's why she's dragging her feet..... las, las.
No disclosure of wrongdoing and discipline is joyous to the recipient for the moment....
Bitter leaf no be sugar but it heals in the longterm....
Believe you me, no parents throws away their baby and the bathwater..... Full disclosure is vital for her peace of mind..
To your question,
The Pharisees believe in God and Jesus Christ followers too believe in God.
But,would Jesus Christ command his followers to marry a Pharisee?

rottennaija:
Then take it to your kingdom hall, you won't see me there. In a public forum, anyone can discuss which nairaland is.

The message you hate to hear in the kingdom Hall is what you want to discuss with JWs, you no dey chop meat but you go use your teeth share am......

rottennaija:
(1)
When you stopped spreading falsehood about outer people and their religion,

(2)
when you stopped forcing people to commit suicide and other dangerous things,

(*3)
probably then, you will see people leave you alone. Until then, you will have people like me.

(*1)

Shebi Matt 18:36 & Rev 18:1-24 is falsehood to you? Stay your lane dey deceive yourself.


(*2).
If your fallacy were true, you wouldn't be on this forum and JWs in your family are living testimonials of your FALSEHOOD.

(*3).
See painment !!
You wey bitterness and resentment commit robbery with your happiness and contentment.
Your Sifia pains no be moi moi.....

1Sharon:
Do you care to understand what others believe?

It's all about you you you

What do you believe ? What is that issue that you want JWs to understand your point of view?
Thank you.

Maximus69:
If care is taken we can make peace with anyone no matter the name they call themselves!

Let's not forget what our Master said "cautious as serpent and innocent as dove" Matthew 10:16

Our attitude speaks much more than our words, since we're like pacesetters { Matthew 7:12} If people finds out that Jehovah's Witnesses loves insulting others, it will become the other of the day. Because they see us as those who knew all the rules in the Bible from Genesis to Revelations. So whatever we do is what they'll imitate! Matthew 5:14

Agape!

I will leave him to his devices, henceforth.

Maximus69:
There is no need for insults.

So let each person make use of what God has given him/her, God is the Judge in this case! Revelations 22:11-12

Brother Maximus69, I'm calling him the name he calls himself....He loves the name he bears,as a man thinketh, so he is.
It's not insult.
Jah bless.

rottennaija:
Did you see that Jw brother who married an old white woman? I tag you. Did you see it?

rottennaija , you have ZERO business with this thread.

This is the caption of this thread:
"Weekly Watchtower Study Edition Discussion Trend, For JW (JW Only))"

Please Observe The Rule...
Thank you.

PervertProphet:
Stupid American cult adherent. Why do I have to stress myself replying you when it's so obvious that you know nothing.

Pervert dey console himself... When it's so obvious he's been LYING.

PervertProphet:
I recently on a Saturday was waving one who came with some little kids to tell preach some of the GB approved lies as usual. Lol, I made a mess of him backing up with facts. That he brought 3 sets of their Elders to speak to me. Those ones were quickly "deflated" by me that they left in shame.They generally avoid my office till date. Lol!

Wetin arrogant Pervert go fit "deflate"?
My brothers simply left you in peace because they have seen through your lies....

JWs you met have no time to waste with a Pervert who twists and Perverts facts.
Pervert simply confirmed that JWs embark on the preaching ministry with zeal and focus.
Kudos to my JW brothers jare....

rottennaija:
Speaking of cover up, Jw do cover up.

On cover up, a lot do get covered up. Fornication, drunkenness, etc. So guy, relax ook.

By your own admission, your parents are JWs.
Your JW parents dey do cover up?

LewsTherin:
Story is as false as the new Nigeria Airways


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.truthorfiction.com/hotel-cleaner-who-stole-sperm-from-a-millionaires-used-condom-won-child-support-battle-millions/%3famp

Fake News everywhere.....