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Isce:
When you receive teaching from you JW hall, you never told them they lied. You received it. Now a difference one is coming, you say these are lies. A judge preceding over a case in a Court conclude on a judgement base on the facts he has, but if new evidence emerge he studies it in details and that may change entirely his previous position on the matter.

Isce:
Jan.
Jesus Christ at a time ask his apostle who men says he is. Also the reply has a closer clue to who he really is.
. Is he from God, does he belong to a cult group, "free menson", where was he buried and so on. By their fruit you will know them. No wonder his doctrine brings with it subte controversy that may just appeal to your conscience and lead you astray. Which makes it even worse if you where and idolater to be converted.
God bless you.

traffwire:
The comparison between JW and Catholic is just as the case of Pharisees and Sadducees

Isce:
. JW design their god to a fix pattern and style and you are bold enough to say it. SHAME !!!.

Janosky:
Lying Johnw Pharisee, Deu32:29 "the one true God said "I am he, " how many person(s) is " I am he" ?

Isce:
jw have system in place to excommunicate, caricature and well as physical attack if necessary to those they see repenting to other Christian belief "these practice makes it a cult".

johnw47:
nwt :
john 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

Father and Son is God,

Deu_32:39  I, am he, and there is no god with me.

achorladey:
Janosky: Beginning with your last point-
Rev 3:14-20 ,from heaven Jesus addressed his message to the congregation in Laodicea, NOT to a "non denominated Christian ."

Achorladey: Revelations 3: 14

To the ANGEL of THE CONGREGATION in LA·O·DI·CEʹA write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God:

Does the following "CONGREGATION IN LAODICEA' sound like name of a CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS or refers to the CHRISTIANS living in LAODECIA? Hahahahaha you want to force denomination into that scripture. I see. That aside Jesus words contained in that account is it in ANYWAY restricted to denominated Christians? Here is the account again

Revelations 3:20........

Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If ANYONE HEARS my VOICE and OPENS the DOOR, I will come into HIS HOUSE and take the EVENING MEAL with HIM and HE WITH ME. Who opens the door? ONLY DENOMINATED CHRISTIANS abi? Hahahahaha. Did you see the HIS HOUSE.


Janosky: *** John 14:1-23, Jesus was teaching his disciples (the organized group he had chosen) , NOT to a non denominated "Christian" cum Pharisee.

Achorladey:
This is John 14:23 again please this time read carefully and if possible call someone to read carefully while you listen carefully. Then ISOLATE the word ANYONE. I know the bible verse I cited before posting it.

John 14:23 In answer Jesus said to him: “If ANYONE LOVES ME, he will OBSERVE my WORD, and MY FATHER will LOVE HIM, and we will come to HIM and make our DWELLING WITH HIM.

As it were they have become TWO even THREE.

Janosky: Every new believer learnt from the disciples examples (Acts2:41-42)

Achorladey: Yes, many of them got the good news preached to them via the disciples and after that one of the DISCIPLES wrote this......

1 John 2: 26-29....

I write you these things about those who are TRYING to MISLEAD YOU. 27 And as for YOU, the ANOINTING that you RECEIVED from HIM REMAINS in YOU, and you do not need ANYONE to be TEACHING you; but the ANOINTING from HIM is TEACHING you ABOUT all THINGS and is TRUE and is no LIE. Just as it HAS TAUGHT you, REMAIN in UNION with HIM. 28 So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices RIGHTEOUSNESS has been BORN from HIM.

Janosky: Your point is DOA.

Achorladey: A familiar tone of Jws, you have not even proof your case conclusively but you have already introduced your BIAS into it by stating DOA. DOA ko LOA ni.

Janosky: *** IN WHOSE NAME?
Jesus preached Jehovah's message ( John 7:16-18), he preached 'the good news of God's kingdom ( Mark 1:14-15. Luke 8:1. John 15:15 ) , Jesus was a Jehovah's witness, his disciples copied Jesus ( 1Cor11:1),they did witness for Jehovah.
The messenger is NOT the owner of the message , that's the point .
Faithful men of faith towed same path(Hebrew 12:1 . 11:1-39).

Achorladey: The question is in WHOSE NAME? Simple and direct question, you went ahead to write a short summary. E get as e be ooooo.

This is the reason for the question above as cited in the scriptures quoted by you earlier

Matthew 18:20. For WHERE there are TWO or THREE GATHERED TOGETHER in my NAME, there I AM in THEIR MIDST.”

The question again is IN WHOSE NAME? but this time will AID you to get the answer

1 Corinthians 5:4....

When you are GATHERED TOGETHER in the NAME of our LORD JESUS, and KNOWING that I AM with you in spirit along with the POWER of our LORD JESUS

@Janosky once again IN WHOSE NAME?

Janosky: Today ,JWs do just that ( Matt24:14 Mark13:10)

Achorladey: Discussions was not based on what Jesus preached or whom Jesus witnessed about.

Maximus69:
Emusan is just agitating for nothing, idiot or not he is crying for nothing!
I am a born again Christian and my own Jesus can ONLY be seen in the midst of those worshiping inside the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses. Shikena!

Maximus69:
Anything Emusan says is of no relevance now! Let him continue agitate quoting Bible, when i've quoted several Bible verses for him without any agreement,so why should he expect me to agree with him now?
There are thousands of religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming born again Christians! Let him go and correct their misconceptions before coming to tell me that i shouldn't claim born again in the Kingdom Hall.
As far as i know, i am a born again Christian and the only place to worship the same God with me is inside the Kingdom Hall!

achorladey:
Janosky: Unity is strength

Achorladey: Fine point

Janosky: "where two or three(& hundreds etc) are gathered in my name" .Matt18:20.

Achorladey: IN WHOSE NAME? Kingdom HALL of Jehovah's witnesses, Jehovah's witnesses or Jesus Christ. Which one.

Janosky: Some thing that Trinity worshipping Pharisees can never understand nor support.

Achorladey: Someone can equally type " something that Organization worshipping Pharisees can never understand nor support."

Janosky: Non denominational nonsense!

Achorladey: Show the NONSENSE inside of non denominated Christians?

John 14:23



Revelation 3:20......

Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If ANYONE HEARS my VOICE and OPENS the DOOR, I will come into his house and take the EVENING MEAL with HIM and he WITH ME.

John 14:23.......In answer Jesus said to him: “If ANYONE LOVES me, he will OBSERVE my WORD, and my FATHER will LOVE him, and we will come to HIM and make our DWELLING with HIM.

As it were are they not two or three?

Hairyrapunzel:
So all these ones because you believe your jehovah will come destroy people who don't belong to watchtower organization or believe/agree 8 old men heading this organization are the only channel of communication between God and man today. Lol

You guys believe in violence just because you want to live on earth forever.

Well, like I said everything is in your imagination and drawing inside your magazines. That means, it will never happen.

Russell, Rutherford, knorr, first set of governing body all awaited violence to be committed by their jehovah yet nothing happened.
They died of heartbreak and so will you.

Emusan:
..that's not where I started quoting him. so go back again to see how you jumped in without understanding the subject matter.

I didn't say you shouldn't quote or comment but do it when you understand the subject matter.

Lastly, if I twisted his statement, he would've pointed that out before we gone far but we both know the angle we're speaking from, only for you to jump from nowhere and started foaming mouth.

Emusan:
Always misquoting the scripture

So do you find happiness in your working place which is not owned by JWs?

Do you find happiness in your school not owned by JWs?

Jesus statement was "In the world you will have tribulation IN ME YOU SHALL HAVE PEACE but be of a good cheer I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD"

Jesus said IN HIM not AMONG BELIEVERS....

Can you see how you're trying to replace Christ with Kingdom Hall now

Maximus69:
True Christians are comforted and encouraged when they're gathered together! Hebrew 10:24,25
It's the sweet MEMORIES of fellowship with holy ones that brings happiness to the minds of believers. 2Corinthians 13:14
Your hatred for JWs can't help you find scriptural support for your none denominational ideology!
You'll ever continue to see that what i'm typing sounds substantial and convincing enough to move sincere individuals though you're opposed to it. Act 26:28

Emusan:
And the person I twisted his post didn't know I did so but it has to be you to discover this



Brainwashed person!
Go back to where I quoted him to know you just jump into what doesn't concern you.

Janosky:
Hogwash ,LIES and junk as usual.
Copy copy thief thief doing what he is known for... Junk post.

1) The Old Testament Psalms was originally written in Hebrew.
Any translation into other languages MUST be the same with the original Hebrew source , if not, then,it's a monumental fraud.
The big question-' How was Psalms 45:6,7 (and by extension Heb1: written in Hebrew,( the language of the Jews)?

**Psalms45:6,7
"Your divine throne is everlasting"
https://theisraelbible.com
/bible/psalms/chapter-45


**"Thy throne given of God is forever and ever" Psalms 45:6,7
www.hebrewsongs.com/psalm45.asp

** The Catholic Church ,one of the frontrunners for Trinity scam ,yet their "Jerusalem Bible" never supported the popular fraud in Psalms 45:6,7.
"Your throne is from God forever and ever"
https://bibliacatolica.com/br/new-jerusalem-bible/psalms/45/


**2 By virtue of Yahweh's covenant with David,( 2Sam7:12-16. Psa89:20-37. Matt1:1,6,7. Luke1:30-33) all of David's offsprings ,including Solomon and Jesus , the Messianic prophecy applied to them.

*** These Pharisees their talent for lying dey make Satan jealous.
The throne of David is the throne of God (1 chro28:5. 29:23),that is
throne Jesus would inherit(Luke 1:31-33. Psalms 45:6,7. Heb1:8,9).

Emusan:
Then it means you're not a born again

Lastly, John 16:33 is all about Christ and not congregation.

rottennaija:
Are you pain about the story?

budaatum:
Well, we have ops story, and the link I posted narrates a few others, so something must be going on to produce so much smoke. Worth investigating, I reckon.

soulpeppersoup:
“Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

John 5:19.

If Jesus was waiting to see what his Father was doing only during prayers, he wouldn't have done half of what he did.

I don't want to go further with the argument but let me show you something.


The INV you spoke about didn't remove that part that read "man who is in heaven." in John 3:13. But there were confused as you are that a man could be in two places at the same time. Hence, they tried to silence it.

They didn't attempt to change it to "man who came from heaven" because that is not what the original text read.

The original text read, "... man who is in heaven."

Jesus was actually in heaven spiritual and on earth physically.

He was saw what the father was doing and replicating same here on earth.

Don't twist scriptures because you want to make a point. You can't help God. Those who have tried it paid dearly for it.

Teach the once you know and leave that you don't know.

budaatum:
Seems there's an issue here!


For some former Jehovah's Witnesses, leaving the faith is not just the mark of losing your religion - it can also mean losing your loved ones. In many cases, friends and family are told to cut all ties with ex-believers, leaving them isolated and sometimes suicidal.

Last year, Sarah - in her 20s - was excluded by the Jehovah's Witnesses in a process known as "disfellowshipping", she says sparked by her refusal to live in an abusive relationship.

She claims her partner at the time had been violent towards her, at one stage leaving her with broken ribs.

Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families

johnw47:
... The Psalm, therefore, I regard as relating originally and exclusively to Christ; and though in the interpretation, the circumstances should not be unduly pressed, nor an attempt be made to spiritualize them, yet the whole is a glowing and most beautiful description of Christ as a King. The same principles of interpretation should be applied to it which are applied to this be the correct view, then Paul has quoted the Psalm in conformity exactly with its original intention, as he undoubtedly quoted it as it was understood in his time.


“Thy throne.” A throne is the seat on which a monarch sits, and is here the symbol of dominion, because kings when acting as rulers sit on thrones. Thus, a throne becomes the emblem of authority or empire. Here it means, that his “rule” or “dominion” would be perpetual - “forever and ever” - which assuredly could not be applied to Solomon. “O God.” This certainly could not be applied to Solomon; but applied to the Messiah it proves what the apostle is aiming to prove - that he is above the angels. The argument is, that a name is given to “him” which is never given to “them.”


Unitarians proposed to translate this, “God is thy throne;” but how can God be “a throne” of a creature? What is the meaning of such an expression? Where is there one parallel?

johnw47:
Jesus was anointed with gladness above his fellows, that is above his apostles and disciples:

johnw47:
tormented lying pharisee deceiver, false accuser, copycat, blinded, confused, brain like a sieve, know nothing, make God out a liar, devil's witness, paranoid false jw Janosky/OneJ

johnw47:
truly psalm 45:6-7 is concerning Jehovah Jesus,

truly the psalm and hebrew verses are referring to Messiah King Jesus:

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.





of course the Son is God in the flesh, to you

God is two persons:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

it was Father who anointed Jesus with the oil of gladness

soulpeppersoup:
"Jesus was in constant touch with his Father". How was he in constant touch with his Father when he was on earth and his Father in heaven?

alBHAGDADI:
Of course, Father is different from the Son, likewise the Holy Spirit. But this doesn't mean Jesus is not part of the office called God. There just liked hierarchy in it.



Mathew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

johnw47:
you are not replying to most posts and all the scriptures given
you just choose a verse or two to argue over and ignore the multitude of other verses

johnw47:
the psalm and hebrew verses are concerning King Messiah Jesus:

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

johnw47:
i have at times copyied and pasted matt slicks work
and not once have i tried to make out it is mine
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Pathetic lying Pharisee.
Give us the proof where you gave credit to Matt Slick for all the junk you copied from him