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bootycall:
Here comes Ori.Mr Isi ukwu.
come over to the other thread will ya.

Much as it has never been my habit responding to stupid comments like this, I will pardon myself(and hope my genuine friends on NL will pardon me, too) for descending so low as to answering this insult.

Yes, I have a 'big' head. And so therefore!!!!  The last time I even heard that was in primary school, among my then immature playmates. . . bootycall, your sense of today measures no more than those of my 9-year-old friends in primary school. I'm serious.

Mr Ori? Yes, I'm proudly big-headed and I don't care. My big head has not stopped me from getting to where I am now and, by God's grace, will never stop me from reaching where I'm going.  By the way, MKO Abiola also had big head.

With my big head, you can't stand the ladies that scramble to have me as their own, and if beauty can be liquefied, then I doubt if your look measures up to a bowl of water in my gf's ocean of beauty!!!

It's been a long time I engaged mediocres and lilliputians.

Jarus is never and can neva be Jairzinho. That is the only thing I will respond to. Other gibberish spewed here by bootycall are not worth replying.

rotblmao

The most ironic part is dat I also confuse the two personalities I'm being compared wt hia. There was a time I opened both's profiles to study their post histories with a view to forming opinion abt their distinguishing features. To me, Jamace is the bag of humour but Jakumo appears deeper wt great command of English grammar

Much as this is appreciated, I, for one, have never thought of Mowe to be a placed already developed or developing in the next two years. Despite the hype, I have always known that the place would not be readily habitable for now.

But one thing I know for sure is, the area has a bright future. By future, I do not mean 3 or even 5 years but I am very sure in the next ten years people that buy these land will look back and wished tehy had bought more.

chyk91:
i dont think ribadu will ever be president of naija.

Exactly my thought too. The terrain is too rough and dirty for a Ribadu that is not a professional politician to emerge the candidate of a party strong enough to win presidential election. His greatest chance would have been when Obasanjo was searching for a person to install as successor. Instead of Yar'Adua, he should have installed Ribadu.

hooged:
Let edwin van der sar judge dis,no be say matter of mouth.ibra was no where to be found againt man u u u,see wat eto did.talkin abt achievement eto won 2 european cup,ibra is no where to be found,eto score in both final.whereas i think ibra neva reach one.dis is exactly wat we call racism.

Good argument, bad conclusion. What has racism got to do with this?

galatico:
Iker "Saint" Casilas was very happy that Samuel Eto Fils finally left Barcelona Cuz the guy has been tormenting him for real, well am glad he left also, Ibrahmovic is a good player, Eto is better!!!

He needed to. As at the last count, Eto'o had 17 goals against Madrid only in his stay in Spain. From Mallorca to Barca, Madrid heard wien from him . . so much so that the dean himself, Zizzou, commented about how Eto'o specialized in punishing RM.

In any case, I doubt if Eto'o will be able to re-enact his La Liga form in Italy. I see him reducing to an average, tired striker with 10-18 league goal return per season, just like Henry is from EPL to Spain, for no other reason than their best is behind them.

lawwyblack:
i ll ask him for a stick of beson n hedges

Ex-Presidents deserve police protection.

Na wa o. This is very strange and an application of the law to the letter.
Hmmmmnnnn, It is obvious that the guy broke the laws, but i think he shoudl have been pardoned or given lesser punishment. We canot call the bank's action injustice but i think they should have been more lenient.

Much has been said about this guy. I personally believe the guy had good intentions but was used by Obasanjo.
Ribadu may not be perfect(and who is?) but I think a Ribadu presidency will not be business as usual. Instead of Yar'adua, why didn't Obj even give us Ribadu?
I doubt if he can get there again.

This article further reinforces my opinion on Ribadu.

As muslims we know what we should and should not do, my question is ,how do you react to the news of the death of your loved one?

I think the analysis that preambled this question is explanatory enough.
As human beings, losing a beloved one, no matter how old the person is, is going to be touching and painful. More painful are deaths that are so sudden, like from autocrash or brief illness.

But one way of getting in control of one's reaction is to constantly remember that death can take any one anytime. This is no negative thinking, it's just a control over one's reaction. Also, having in mind that when one's time comes, nobody can stop it, could also go a long way in minimizing the tendency to overreact.
If that person is a Muslim, especially a good one, then by taking solace in the fact that he's al-jannah-bound, you can minimize your sadness and reaction. Also, remember Prophet Muhammad, the best of mankind and dearest to Allah, also experienced loss of beloved ones, then ask yourself, who am I?
Finally, remember teh concept of qadar, taht what will hit you will not hit you and what will hit you will not miss you.

Human beings that we are, we will surely feel so sad, but those measures could cushion the effect. Finally, please note that there is nothing wrong in weeping over the loss of a beloved one, what is bad is wailing, uttering offensive words, cursing etc. You need not wear an indifferent face, you can weep but within boundary.

the 9pm call

Am I the only one born on 23rd?

Frizy:
[flash=425,344]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JR5Tl2pac5E[/flash]

Dear brothers and sisters I decided to post this video by a reputable Sheikh from the[b] Ahl Us Sunnah wal Jammah (my sect). [/b] It talks about Islamic extremism. Extremism takes different forms, the main reason why this is posted is to try and educate ourselves on the dangers of extremism. Boko Haram's complete withdrawal of western education and avoiding to use vehicles (so am told) is not the right way to go about. In fact, we need to be educated and actively participate in the way our world is govern, with Islam and Science in the fore front.

Watch and be informed.

Salam

Frizy

Salam my brother
I have a problem with the bolded.Why use sect. I hate that word. I'm also Ahlus-Sunnah, but calling ahlus-sunnah a sect could be misleading. That is true Islam, trying to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and ignoring bid'ah. It's not a sect, it's simply following the original, prophetic path.

dayokanu:
Make he come learn how to play football not fire on the mountain run run run run

LOL

Ayatul Kursiyyu is wonderfully powerful. I'm talking from experience.

tkb417:
hehehehe
see this Jarus guy
u wan make i die young

UK thieves are not as merciless as our highway robbers.
i never born pikin

ROTFLMAO

I also wonder if Sulley Muntari fit arrest Naija thief

JUNE09:
@ IFECOLA, pls stop wasting ur time. There is no where in the world where Economics as a field is being professionalised. So basically, as a chartered economist, what does the CAMA 1990 permit u to do, what role do u guys intend to play in regulating the Nigerian Economy.
At least ICAN ;to a large extent regulates activities of auditors and has a code of conduct which every accountant in Nigeria must comply with.
CITN deals with tax issues, CIBN - banking, ICSA - corporate Governance,just to mention a few.
I feel Economics is purely academical and should be left to reseach. Maybe finance, which is an off shoot of Economics, can be professionalised, as its relevant to the business world.
if u really want to be professional in what u do and of course get a chartered status, then go be an accountant, try ur hands on the ACCA or ICAN qualification, or even go further, with the CFA, CFQ or CISA. The pain of sitting and passing thses exams go a long way in enhancing ur level of professionalism. For example, ACCA has an entiire exam module called "PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNTANT", though i have earlier worked as an accountant back in Nigeria, after passing dat course sometime back, i started seeing things differently. I wonder ur ICEN can do dat.
PLS NOTE ALSO THAT MY FIRST DEGREE WAS IN ECONOMICS, SO I AINT BIASED.

Priceless!!!

tkb417:
works been fine and all and moreso i got attacked last weekend by some hoodlums masquerading as armed robbers on the highway.
Got beaten like mad still gat some mold on ma cheek tho.

Bros, kpele o. But why u no do dem 'Sulley Muntari'

Wien, Wien, Wien . . . . . . . Cried baby Jarus on Monday, 23rd August, 1982

Just bak on NL afta nature's call. I'll go and ur complaint/thread now.

Let me make an attempt based on what I know as I type now, without resorting to internet materials:

1 - Who was the first African to win a Premier League medal?
No idea.

2 - Which African country was Patrick Vieira born in?
Senegal


3 - From who did Liverpool sign El-Hadji Diouf?
Lens     NB: utaka replaced him at Lens

4 - Which midfielder, who would later go on to play for two Premier League clubs, scored in Senegal's 1-0 win over France in the 2002 World Cup?
Bouba Diop


5 - Which African spent a time on trial at Manchester United, but was apparently turned away after a misunderstanding over some kit, only to move to the Premier League for an awful lot of money a few years later?
Don't know.


6 - Peter Ndlovu played for four clubs in England - name them.
I remember he played for Sheffield. Others I don't know

7 - Lucas Radebe was apparently only signed by Leeds to help which player settle in?
No idea.


8 - Tony Yeboah represented which country?
Ghana


9 - Which African player once said in answer to the question 'What would you be doing if you weren't a footballer?', "Nothing. My family is very rich"?
LOL. . .This is hilarious.  Don't know the player


[b ]10 - Former African footballer of the year Patrick Mboma had a brief spell at which English club? [/b]
Oh how can I forget this!


11 - What is Jay Jay Okocha's real first name?
Augustine


12 - Mustapha Hadji signed for Coventry in 1999, but what was the name of his Moroccan compatriot who joined him?
Isn't that Yusuf Safri or Yusuf Chipo?

13 - Which Nigerian scored twice for Everton in the 1995 FA Cup semi-final against Spurs?
Daniel Amokachi


14 - Which manager - currently in charge of a Premier League club - brought George Weah to Europe?
I don't know


15 - Fredi Kanoute was born in France, but which international team does he play for?
Mali


16 - Which player admitted to being 'sick to his stomach' when he signed for his current English club?
No idea


17 - Name the Nigerian Champions League winner who played for Ipswich for two seasons.
Finidi George


18 - Match the player to the clubs: Orlando Pirates (South African side), Bolton, Charlton and Ipswich (on loan).
Who could this be?. . . .bootiiiinnnggggg. . . .


19 - Which player went to court to try and gain Dutch citizenship - and therefore the chance to play for Holland - before failing and moving to England in 2006?
Saloman Kalou

20 - Excluding Seyi Olofinjana (who may have left by the time you read this), Stoke have five Africans on their books - name them.

I think I have enough energy and time this morning to continue the dialogue:

Ibime:
1, Jarus, I know you chat with Sanusi on facebook and reh reh reh but you are taking your fascination too far. . . .
First of all, you are not qualified to judge his intellectual capacity cos he is smarter than you. 2,How can someone of inferior intelligence such as yourself be able to discern who is smarter when 2 smarter men are debating? . . . . . thats like Homer Simpson sitting in on a debate between Steve Hawkins and Einstein and trying to decipher who is more intelligent.

Out of deference to you,3, I ask you to produce evidence of Sanusi's genius so I can judge if he truly is that smart. . . . and please dont post any more nonsense political ramblings from him, I wanna see something from his field which sets him apart. . .

1, I don't chat with Sanusi on FB. I chat with his son, Aminu. I relate with Soludo too. So I don't know the fascination you are talking about. Count me out of sycophancy. I say my opinion out irrespective of whose ox is gored. Even in my article on him published in ThisDay newspaper of 26/07/09, I disagreed strongly with him on some issues he had discussed in the past.
2, Did you know what this thread is about at all? Who are the two smarter men debating? I don't get what you are saying there. Please let's treat issue rather than attacking me.
3, Evidence of his ingenuity: For a person to be widely regarded as Nigeria's banking system's best brain in Credit risk management, it takes ingenuity. For a bank as big as First bank to be begging a person, a GM in another bank, and enticing him with Executive Directorship, to come and join them and fix their risk management area, you have to be a genius.

davidylan:
1a, these have no relevance. There must be a million others who attended the same schools.
And? He doesnt even have an MBA that others get at the Lagos Business school? What a shame.

Better to include that if we also include such nonsense as his primary school degree.

1b,but excuse me . . . what do you mean by "sound primary and sec education"? Does that qualify you to be a CBN governor? Attending Kings College means nothing . . . there were other schools with even better brains. You didnt attend KC, does that mean you have no brains?

2 an economics degree from ABU is no more worth the paper its printed on.

What have the above to do with the topic except to highlight Sanusi is not exactly a brain in the calibre of the likes of Soludo?

1a&b, I started from his primary and secondary education to highlight his cosmopolitan upbringing, rather the almajiri perception some of you have about him. Of course, KC is not the only school, even in Lagos, that had a solid reputation, especially decades ago. Sound primary and secondary education surely do not qualify one to be CBN governor, but at least it plays a great part in shaping one's future.
2, I disagree with you. ABU ranks up there with other first generation universities, irrespective of region. Prove to me your assertion that ABU certificate worth no more than the paper it's printed on. Many top Nigerians, even those from the South, finished from the university and they are holding their won against the country's finest.

illusion2:
So that you guys don't go back and forth. . .the true test of anybody's intellect is the answer to this question:

1. What has he/she created before i.e what initiative or idea did he/she start from scratch and develop into a national or global phenomenom?

Anybody that can give adequate answers is a 'Top' banker.

I need not say more. . . . .

He guided the transformation of the UBA's credit risk management division into an Enterprise-Risk Management Sector and also spearheaded the bank’s Basel 2. UBA became the reference point, industry-wide, in enterprise risk management and others benchmark their performance against it. isn't that national enough? Please, don't ask me he did not achieve banking consolidation or debt relief for Nigeria or solve global meltdown. As a bank GM, later ED and finally GMD, I expected you to know that he was not at the commanding height of the economy. Afterall, even Soludo, brilliant as he is, had the opportunity to 'develop a national phenomenon from scratch' when he became CBN governor. I know NEEDs was also his idea, but he came up with that when appointed as Economic adviser to the President.

[quote author=Xavier. link=topic=302810.msg4267996#msg4267996 date=1248891675]All

Sanusi is the least qualified candidate to head Nigerian's Apex bank. And his actions and inactions in the last few weeks have proven this beyond all reasonable doubts.

Anyone with an indepth knowledge of the Nigerian banking industry would not dispute this.[/quote]Haba, Xavier. I know you don't like him and strongly disagreed with his appointment in the first place, but you would have done better giving him time than dismissing him in less than two months in the saddle! It appears you don't want to hear him at all, anything that comes from his, to you, is rubbish. I'm not in the banking sector but I follow happenings in the financial system generally.
A quick perusal of the policies he has rolled out or spoken of intention to use shows that SLS is not lost as you made us to believe here.
I know that the banking industry is based on perception and mere utterances from the regulators could have a great effect on the system. Sanusi's banks audit exercise is a welcome development, and the only flaw, is his seeming prediction of the outcome, which could send fears across the industry.
He has also spoken of his intention to allow foreign interest unhindered ownership of Nigerian bank. This is also a welcome development, as experience globally has shown that controls which tend to restrict are often difficult to enforce. You only succeed in challenging economic agents to be ingenious in circumventing such restrictions.
SLS has also commenced a reform of banks reporting system, introducing a strict regime of full disclosure of all liabilities. This will force banks to make adequate provisioning for exposure to margin loans in teh capital market, and provides a shield for them in the event of another crash in teh capital market.

Like any other economic policy, there will always be difference of opinion even among economists on the effectiveness, afterall Soludo's banking consolidation was also initially greeted with stiff opposition. There are various routes to achieving an economic goal. The one a policy maker opts for is a matter of what he is convinced is the best in the light of the reality on ground.

To therefore dismiss SLS, in just one month, Xavier, I believe reflects your preconceived dissatisfaction with his appointment.

Ijawman:
So he was a lecturer with a first degree? What a shame! No wonder our varsities are glorified primary schools

I actually misquoted the date. He was a lecturer between 1983-85, having had his masters degree already. He was in ICON bank between 1985-1991.

vigasimple:
In a blind's country, one eyed man is usually appointed the king. lamido sanusi is one of the best the North could produces and we must give it to him, he tried, got educated more than his peers (in the North) are know for.

So, if it is the north turn (according to federal character of the constitution) and the North need to produce a candidate, he may not be bad, but comparing him wih guys in the south is like COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. They are miles apart.( even with Lamido Sanusi well spoken English taken into account, and No babanriga, he wore uniforms of Banker's -as in suit)

Nonetheless, I must agree with Davidylan here that he may not be among the top 10 if done strictly on merit. Being the grandson of Emir of Kano, and a first class Hausa Prince is a door opener even in the North and all over Nigeria. To cap it all, studying Islamic course is a mesmerissing plot for the Northern oligarcy, they love Islamic scholars. To them Lamio Sanusi can do no wrong.

Anyway, going to school does not necessarily make you the best candidate in anything. YAR A'CLUELESS also went to ABU, he is also a lecturer, and a CEO of Kastina state for 8 years and so far he has wasted the first 2 years of his presidency and Nigerian's time and resources, and chances are that we are stuck with him for another 6 years whether we like it or not.

IN FEW YEARS TIME, WE WILL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT LAMIDO SANUSI is a waste of space like YAR A'FAILURE( which is what I said 2 years ago at the commencement of his Presidency- at least you can now judge
YAR A'DULL now one way or the other)

I have never disputed the fact that Sanusi got there primarily because of regional consideration. What I disagreed with is that he's incompetent. Irrespective of region, he's one of Nigeria's best banking brains at the moment, I say this again.
Even before the ethnic dimension came up, Businessday, Nigeria's leading financial newspaper, independently recommended him

FACE:
Jarus, It's funny how you took David out of the other thread and the manner you did it. Now that came straight out of my secondary school days when:

If we wanted to settle a score (fight) we took the argument straight to a place we called "Land of Settlement" or "Land" for short. At Land, you were guaranteed of uninterupted fight with spectators and supporters watching.

Sorry for interupting this fight, but una must fight to finish today. No one has keeled over yet and you are all throwing good punches. A beg make nobody put hand.

In my own secondary school, we used to call our own fighting spot FELELE I remember going there one recess and fighting with a classmate.

TUNDE LEMO
- UNN FIRST CLASS degree in Accounting 1984
- Overall 3rd best result ICAN exams in 1986
- staff Auditor and Consultant between 1985 – 1988
- Consolidations Manager SCOA Nigerian Plc 1988 and 1989
- Credit officer, corporate banking Chartered Bank Limited 1989 - 1990
- AGM Equitorial Trust Bank 1990 1992
- Deputy GM Wema Bank 1995 - 1995
- GM Corporate Banking Group 1997 - 1998
- EX Credit and Relationship MGT 1998 - 2000
- MD CEO Wema Bank 2000 - 2004
- Deputy Governor CBN 2004 - Date

REMI BABALOLA
- BSc Agric Economics UI
- Masters of Business and Finance UNILAG
- Courses attended at - Stanford Graduate School of Business, USA; Wharton Business School, USA; London Business School; Harvard Business School, USA; MBA - Lagos Business School.
- ICAN Exam- First Overall Best Student 1988
- Four Time Winner of CEO Award 1994
- Fellow, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria
- Member of Commonwealth Business Council and World Economic Forum

No disrespect to both of them. I never said they were not qualified. In fact, I did argue for Remi Babalola's choice on NL here some months ago.
But my problem is you give too much emphasis to academic qualifications. Like I keep saying academic and even professional qualifications alone cannot do the job.
Here, one read Agricultural Economics and the other Accounting, while Sanusi majored in Economics. Both are award-winning Chartered Accountants, and Sanusi is not a Chartered Accountant. Soludo was never an Accountant but did excellently well(to me.I know this has been a subject a debate).
Sanusi also had international trainings and courses.
It will be foolhardy of me to say academic qualifications are not important, that is not my point, but what I'm saying is that it should be balanced with experience,attititude and proven skills. Sanusi has had a solid career in Nigerian banking system rising to become the GMD of one of Nigeria's largest financial group. When SLS was chosen as GMD of FBN, there were other EDs with superior academic qualifications, but Sanusi was chosen ahead of them. And these people are southerners. Bisi Onasanya(eventually replaced SLS as GMD) started his banking career same year with SLS, but with no break like SLS(the 6 Sudan years); not only that, he is a Chartered Accountant like Lemo and Remi, but was SLS was considered ahead of him as GMD of FBN.

Rubbish . . . you're attempting to compare apples to oranges here. Based on credentials alone Fola Adeola is not qualified but he has more than demonstrated his SUPERIOR EXCELLENCE by founding and growing one of Nigeria's best private banks - GTB!

What has Sanusi done?

Suddenly, you dumped your emphasis on academic qualification. So you also know that credentials can be waved for other factors like experience. By the same token, we can wave Sanusi's not having more than Msc Economics for his experience. What has he done? He need not have founded a bank before qualifying for CBN governorship. None of the former Guvs founded a bank. They worked for others banks. Sanusi worked for UBA and FBN and rose through the ranks through excellent performance. If anything, a man like Fola Adeola with heavy stake in GTB cannot be the regulator of the banking system.

adigun101:
Well, Well, Well I never knew that the position of the CBN Governor was zoned. Do you guys think this should be the case? Should the governor of our reserve bank be politicised ? By asking this question, it now seems that there is a possibility that the best man has not been chosen for the Job. Though am not saying that this is the case.

Well if I may add they should have gotten someone better than Soludo. But that will be very hard east,west, north or south.

It was obviously zoned. I agree Sanusi may not be the best man, but to dismiss him as incompetent with a wave of hand is what I disagree with.

Please pay attention to dates in highlights . . . 1,what was Sanusi doing from 1991 - 1997? 2,To claim that Sanusi was hired by the UBA solely on his banking skills is fraudulent. [b]3,As at 1991, he had only an ecomomics Masters from ABU (not worth much) and a stint at a failed bank.[/b]
4,And pls do NOT use UBA and FBN to burnish the tattered credentials of this fraud . . . these were banks built with the sweat and hardwork of southerners!

5,If islam were the sole reason for this new CBN appointment why not choose Hakeem Bello Osagie?

1, From 1991-1997, he was studying Islamic/Arabic studies in Sudan. Yes, what's wrong with that? It was his personal decision based on reasons known to him, probably to become Emir in the future. Anybody can decide to study anything. Soludo said he was going to learn Chinese after leaving office. Obasanjo decided to go and study theology after being President. these are personal decisons one takes at one point or the other in one's life and doesn't make you less good in your primary field/profession.
2, Yes, Sanusi was hired purely on skills. He had six years prior banking experience. These were his formative years in banking and he even rose to become Area Manager. An Area Manager in any bank, irrespective of how small the bank is, in as much as he was not fired for wrongdoing, will not have problem getting another job, especially if he is as brilliant as spoken.
3,That is confidence at work. He was assessed and found fit for the job! UBA believed in him and gave him the job, years later they were counting their gains for employing him!
4, He could not have founded UBA and FBN because they had been there before Sanusi was even born. He was employed by these banks and left an indelible mark, especially in the area of risk management. Today, UBA and FBN are the ones using SLS' name to burnish their image!!!! They are proud of their own!!!
5,I knew you will find a way of smuggling religion into this dialogue. I never supported SLS because he's a Muslim. In fact, I'm not his fan in Islamic scholarship. Here is a paragraph from my article on him published in ThisDay newspaper of 27/07/09:
I may disagree with him on some of his positions on issues he discussed that related to Islam, but only an ignoramus will deny Sanusi’s depth of Islamic knowledge. I personally feel strong about his criticism of Sheikh Ja’afar Adams, late Kano-based Islamic preacher, in some articles he wrote in 2005, especially derogatorily referring to the Islamic preacher as an ‘Islamic demagogue’. I also did not find pleasant his comments on Saudi Arabia Islamic scholars, who, to me, are the torchbearers of the Islam that is nearest to ideal today. In fact if I had seen those articles while they were still fresh, I am pretty sure that I would have written rejoinders to them.
His opinions on many Islamic issues, to me, are marked departure from mine. His writings on Islam I read looked more of a philosopher's writing than that of an Islamic scholar's. I saw his wide reading of Kantian and Cartesian philosophies telling in his Islamic analyses. I'm not much of his fan in Islamic discourse.

That aside, I never supported and will never support him because he is a Muslim. My stand while the argument raged was that Soludo should be given another term. Soludo is a Christian but I believed he was the better choice.
Don't mention Bello Osagie for the job. The Bello Osagie of today is a misfit for CBN governorship. There are other Muslims fit for the job but I don't recommend based on religion.

And another thing you don't know is that Sanusi is a rebel to the northern oligarch. Stooge is the last thing you can use to describe him. The guy has been a thorn in the flesh of northern ruling class since 1997. He has been critical of northern leaders so much so that they initially rose against his appointment. In his article, SHEKARAU AND HIS AJI-NO-MOTO ECONOMICS, the guy sent his state governor to the cleaners. I wonder how the guy as a senior management staff in a bank, who, by the nature of his job, is expected to be politically neutral, at least overtly, could be so audacious to join full time political activists in criticizing governments. I was therefore not surprised to learn later that UBA lost substantial deposits from Kano state government because of the rebel in their bank. Even at this, UBA did not deem it fit to sack him. They knew his value.


Anyway, all these bankers will tell you this. From Remi Babalola to Tayo Aderinokun, to Jim Ovia, to Atedo Peterside, they will all tell you who Sanusi is. He is a respected colleague and I'm sure these guys will never discuss Sanusi from ethnic angle. They know him, they know his worth. It is we that see them from afar that discuss all sort of less than informed analysis.
Akin Osuntokun said this of him:

“He’s first and foremost a reform-minded and progressive intellectual. This is the quality he has consistently manifested in his public interventions and was a member of the pioneering team that reformed the UBA and subsequently the First Bank.

He is comfortable with people, regardless of ethnic or religious background. Of course, he’s honest and humble. These are the attributes he will potentially bring to bear on his new assignment.”

Far before his name came up, Businessday, Nigeria's leading business newspaper owned by an Easterner and consisting mainly of southern journalists, after a painstaking analysis suggested Sanusi as the best to replace Soludo. These are informed analysts that have no other business than reporting and analysing Nigeria's economy. In fact the only respected analyst I read that expressed reservation about Sanusi's choice, based on competence, was a ThisDay economic columnist(can't recall her name now). She argued that Sanusi did not have international experience and secondly, he was just six months old as FBN CEO. But other than Soludo, who else had international experience, among past CBn Guvs? The Tunde Lemos and Fola Adeolas of this world are also as homegrwon as Sanusi.

FINALLY, rather than say Sanusi would make Top 3 banking heads in the South-West, I will prefer to say, his name would have cropped up as possible candidates irrespective of region. There is nothing that says he rose to become FBN GMD because of ethnic affiliation. If by merit, he can rise to such position, and that was the highest other candidates we mentioned also got to, why is he not qualified for CBN governorship when others are qualified. It would have been a different case FBN had been a northern bank. He competed with them in the private sector and stood his own, what now say the southern folks are qualified and he is not?

We accept dat, not because a jinn said it, but because the prophet had prescribed falaq, nas and kursiyyu for us before as cure for/protection from magic, jinn possession etc. We don't believe a jinn unless what it says corroborates wt what is known in Our'an and Sunnah before.

I'm still very much around, though have had a quite busy day. I was typing a very long response, taking the points you guys raised one by one, when the system fumbled and I lost the efforts. I had spent almost one hour typing the stuff before the whole thing went off. It was painful and I've been hesitant to devote another 30 minutes on a single post.

I will respond to your and others' rebuttal in due course.

jookco:
The recent violence in the Northern part of Nigeria I think may have revealed what Islam stand for, This is a convincing evidence that peace lives in Christ alone and there is no other way by which people can have peace accept if the live for Christ.

My brothers and Sister from the North, you all have seen it, think about it, Jesus ask us to pray for and love our enemies not to take sword in our hands, take your time think about it why your religion is full of violence, I think you have got a wrong information but today realize that there is another way to get total peace and that way is Jesus. Repent and be save many of your brothers and sisters in Iran are doing so watch CBN .

Good Bless all of you

Preacher, much as the bolded lie makes this thread deserving of a place in the recycle bin, I have decided to leave it so that the issue you raised can be debated and proved to you that the violence in the north reveals nothing about what Islam stands for.

I don't have Christ in my life, neither do my family and we have peace. Same for many other Muslims.

By way of reiteration, the fight in the north has nothing to do with what Islam stands for. An extremist sect(much as I hate to use this word, boko haram's actions smacked of true extremism) went haywire, with actions not traceable to the Qur'an, and you are here preaching Jesus.

I personally don't care about what you guys say about Islam. Sincerely, they don't move me. I'm not a Muslim because of anybody, I'm a Muslim because I know the fundamentals of Islam and neither real wrong action of any Muslim or group of Muslims nor propaganda of Islam haters and opportunists like you make me to question my faith in this religion.

If anything, you are the one that needs to repent and accept Islam.

POSSIBLE NAMES FROM THE SOUTH WEST IF THE POSITION HAD BEEN ZONED TO THE REGION AND A COMPARISON WITH SANUSI
[b]-TUNDE LEMO:[/b]Tunde Lemo is a First class Accounting degree holder from UNN(Soludo's mate, really). He had his First degree in Accounting, not Economics. By your arguments, if SLS is not qualified because he had no more than a Masters degree in Economics, then Lemo too is not qualified because he had just a degree in Accounting, not even in Economics, and he did not have a Masters degree like SLS. Much as I don't believe education, especially first degree, has much to do with your career later in life, if that is the argument people are using against SLS, then I can't help using same argument for him too. Anyway, the Group Chief Financial Officer in my company had, not only a first degree in Mechanical engineering, but also Masters, and today he is the number finance person in the Group, driving our finance strategy and controlling other top Finance persons with degrees in Accounting/Finance from world best universities. I don't give much emphasis to first degree.
On the career argument, SLS worked in banks all his life. Tunde worked in audit/accounting firms before joining banking system. He rose to become MD of Wema bank, Sanusi rose to become MD of a bigger, more respected bank, FBN. Tunde's only stronger point is that he had been in CBN before Sanusi and should know better. But Shamsudeen Usman was CBN Deputy Governor for years but was far from impressive as Finance minister, so thsi argument may not be very valid
So if Tunde's name could crop up as SW's candidate, why not Sanusi?

REMI BABALOLA[/b]This is another guy whose name could have cropped up if CBN governorship had been zoned to SW. He and Sanusi were EDs in FBN before his appointment as Minister. Remi is no doubt a brilliant guy and I'm really impressed the way he outshone his senior minister,Shamsudeen Usman, in the Finance ministry.He's my favourite in Yar'adua's cabinet. Remi has attended international courses and top trainings and he's very smart, a Jim Ovia guy. Remi would have made a great CBN governor, but that doesn't preclude the fact that SLS too couldn't have made one. The highest Remi's trainings and experience got him was an ED in First bank, and Sanusi got that too. So what can Remi do CBN that SLS will not be able to do?

[b]FOLA ADEOLA: Fola Adeola's major strenght is in corporate governance. He founded and nurtured GTB. But if SLS is not qualified because he had 'just' a masters degree in Economics from ABU, then should we ignore Fola Adeola's proven brilliance and dismiss him just because he had an HND from Yabatech?  This is why, to me, claim that Sanusi does not have the requisite academic credential to be CBN governor does not hold water. Fola Adeola is more than qualified.

Other Financial gurus from the South West:
Tayo Aderinokun: From his skills, he is doing well and will do better as an operator and a silent boardroom guru than a regulator. Not a CBN governor material. His name was never mentioned for the job anyway.

Oya, name other reputable banking heads from the South West that Sanusi will not match?

CONCLUSION: I'm a Yoruba and in no way ethnocentric. Apart from Sanusi, we can hardly name any banking/economic/financial figure from the north that matches the Southern folks, maybe Mansur Mukhtar. Shamsudeen Usman, who I had respected so much in his days as CBN Deputy governor, lost my respect due to his performance as Finance Minister. But to dismiss Sanusi as incompetent because he did not finish from Harvard or had a Phd or an aboki is what I am uncomfortable with. Sanusi is the best the north could offer but if the same Sanusi had been a South-Westerner, his name would still have made the list of possible candidates. That is my argument.

I'm tired of typing and will shut down now. I've got to rest. I will follow you guys' responses from my phone while on bed and will post short responses where called for. Full debate continues tomorrow by God's grace.

Cheers!!!!

@davidylan and Ijawman,
Your questions/objections are noted will be taken one after the other after I finish the arguments in support of my claim.

Other important points
-Most informed commentators,analysts and players on Nigerian economy whose comments I read in Newspapers acknowledged the fact that SLS was qualified for the job. Where dust was raised was the fact that all teh key managers of our economy will be coming from the same state.
-SLS is as analytical and eloquent as those top bankers/Economists you will want us to believe can rule CBN better. He oozed brilliance and confidence and demonstrated good grasp of Economics and our peculiar economy at the senate screening, to the applause of even those that had written him off before.
-If Joseph Sanusi, another former MD of FBN could become CBN governor, could become CBN governor without any hoopla, what is wrong in Sanusi being there? Is he because the former is from Kano state and the latter from Ondo?

Now to follow: An analysis of possible names if the position had been zoned to South West.