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chihums:
I'll feel a lil bad but'll soon get over it.

tope2000:
I wont feel bad but i dont think its right

it is not as easy as it looks. it spoils many things and established family ties.  pray never to go through one.

read the words again  best friend  and ex girl friend.  2 people who know you more than you think.

EloSela:
He probably has lot more cash stashed away in Nigeria that the charity commission couldn’t touch or investigate. I mean if it is £120,000 of his birthday alone then what else? I am sure that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I clearly remember attending KICC in Hackney as a student. Mr Ash in his Italian suits and snake skin shoes would ask the congregation for £200. He asked for those who could give £200 to stand up and raise their hands and people started holding up their credit cards and cheque books. Mr Ash then proceeded to pray for those people only. That more or less told me that if I didn’t have £200 to spare then I couldn’t receive prayer and neither was I worthy to be in Church.

I am glad he was investigated and I hope they continue to monitor him because questions need to be asked.

ignorance is never a virtue my dear. pastor matthew didnt know anything about birthday. it was a surprice party by some misguided over zealous people who only knew how to spend what they cannot pay for. if you know pastor matthew you will know he is not one of those people that use money any how. he never forgot the days he was zero ( PO ) as he calls it. he does so much to make peoples lives better than he met them. you never hear of what he does behind the scene. you never hear of the pastors of other denominations he pays in your nigeria to take the gospel to the rural nigeria that most people wont go.

you dont hear of the pastor kids he funds scholarships for. if nigeria had just a 100 pastor matthew, the world would take notice of us.

do you know how much the man struggled to make sure black businesses benefitted from olympics contracts? you dont know the man. you only saw him ask for £200. what was the £200 for? was it to help him feed his wife and kids? was it to help him buy more shoes? lets criticize justly so we dont get judged too.

he is the main kicc person you see on tele you dont expect him to wear rags to make you happy do you?

like every other person he has his faults. if you met him in person and told him all he does is gently say sorry sir it wont repeat itself again.

Dual Core:
star gini? where she dey shine? for bush? star faya!  

Erm. . .  mukina i have reappraised our situation and i think we can meet now.  

P.S: i have repented of all my ashy'ism, been cured of my flirtosis and i'm sooo clean now  

there are few stars here and she is rightly one of them.

i choose my stars you choose yours. good evening

mukina2:
Johhny? my Johnny?

when will you stop this indecent tiffing ?

No problem thanks.
Use the report to moderator link in the respective board, the moderator will get the report and will link and lock the duplicated thread.
hope this helps.

you are always a star. many thanks

davidylan:
kanayo this woman is your wife . . . you shldnt be feeling bad to do stuff for her when she's carrying your baby.

thank you my bros. i always trust you to tell the truth. help me tell our brother o. i cant beleive a pregnant woman is expected to bend down and wash someone clothes  this day and age.  kanayo no tell me say you dey lagos i would recommend your deportation to the village.

if the girl papa never chop your dowry you deserve a refund.  if you dey young you get this kind mind only God knows what u will do when reach fifty.

n-guage:
What I find wrong with this is the fact that husbands and wives have defined roles. Even more saddening is the fact that you speak of these roles using terms like "agreement reached, and breached" that suggests your wife to be a business partner.

Granted I've never been married, but my common sense tells me there's something wrong when married couples have to spell out terms and deal with each other like business partners.

Try seeing things from her POV, I'm pretty sure your wife didn't just wake up one morning and decide to be a rebel. Maybe the roles you "assigned" to her were more than she could handle, maybe she's not happy with you and that's her own way of getting back at you, maybe she's having problems at her job. This looks like what happens when couples don't talk. Communication is never overrated.

oga sister get belle and he be like say na kanayo get the belle. so help me tell kanayo to do the NEEDFULL.

iice and mukina, sorry to disturb you guys. hope una dey fine? anyway how can one report delection of multiple threads that is becoming too rampant here now. eg https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=262820.msg3743818#msg3743818

have a good weekend

KunleOshob:

behave like Jesus na. Jesus answers every question.

some men should be very careful who they allow marry their daughters.  this lady is not carrying another man's child oga husband. she is  supposed to be your freind and wife.  learn to understand and tollerate. if you treat her life a queen you will get a queen.  if all you want is a house girl that is what you get.

if you detest hunger in your belle  detest anger in your belle too especially against your better half.

sorry no offence  meant i know it is not good to feel cheated  she may be going through some challenges she is shielding you from.  i just discovered you are ibo.  igbo men know how too look after thier women bros  why you want give them bad name.  some of your mates wife dont know market  you sit down for NL dey complain.

is this her first belle?

why not try washing machine na. that may just help you delay her wrinkles and grey hair bros.

anyone found "sleeping open eye" song yet? please i am waiting. thanks for your help guys

please report any duplicate threads for locking or sanctions here

mine is https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-262487.0.html - Nigerian Immigration Service Deports Dan Foster, Top Radio Presenter

hugle:
jjyou, are you Linda Ikeji in disguise? cos you are taking this matter too personal. well for those of you who dont know her, she is blog writer trying so hard to be a celebrity.

sorry to dissapoint you oga i am very comfortable in my own skin. you say she is blog writter it shows you dont know her . she is a business woman at her young age with a good magazine and event management company to her name. do you care to know how old she is? it is never a crime to be passionate about what you do. at least she is not sleeping with everything that moves in trouser like most to make ends meet. is that not good enough for you sir? you really believe she is behind this nonsence. you people beleive anything.

palebobe:
@JJYOU, U sound like u've taken it upon ur human self to fight 4 Linda. I dnt knw her except 4 gossips i hear. U n i cannot deny d fact dat wen our 'enemy' is down, we r happy, even 4 a split second. Am very sure she is happy.

sorry to burst your bubble ma'am. we are all not like that. that relationship is history. she has since moved on with her life. she has too much to occupy her to rejoice about someone she could easily help if she knows how. dont go about making enemies with people who dont know you exist. linda is a fine young woman. if you get to know her i bet you will like her. she goes out of her way to do everything to please anyone she knows. dont always beleive the worst of people. she is a very humble and grateful person. she is one of the few nigerians you can take her to the bank.

nethacker:
@pushkin, Please can i have ur number i need to talk to u pleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeeee
@phillips, O boy no kill pple for here oo with ur grammar, i don die for here

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Re: My Friend At GTBank Took 80,000 Naira From My Account
« #68 on: Yesterday at 02:45:53 PM »

@JJYOU and Ajengogo, No be fight my pple, I will support Ajengogo's view of the fact that transaction batches are being called over @ the close of business everyday and if such was detected,it will be reversed immediately and quickly . I was formerly in banking operations(as a paying teller)b4 moving to network support(Information Technology).All through my stay in that unit,I have never for once paid without the customer's consent and I don't think it's possible anywhere. You might have a different view and experience when u were working as a banker(I mean JJYOU), pls let's hear u.

o boy i no fit argue with you. even in rural branches of nigeria where u have time on your hands to play with i dont think you bring out signature cards to cross check during call overs. all you do in call over is checking figures and account numbers.
call overs are more carefully done when there are differences in your books not when the books are balanced spot on. if all frauds are discovered during call overs why are we having the high levels of frauds undetected today?

how does a call over person detect a debit was not supposed to go into an account if all the instruments/ entries were rightly drawn and probably some officers verified the signature earlier?

please tell me i am wrong that you [b]now [/b]verify signatures during call overs in nigeria.

KunleOshob:
This was addressed specifically to pastor chris and other "men of God" who have developed an obsession and love for money.

1 Timothy 6:10-11:
10For the love of money is a root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have been led astray and have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves through with many [a]acute [mental] pangs.
   11But as for you, O man of God, (pastor chris)flee from all these things; aim at and pursue righteousness (right standing with God and true goodness), godliness (which is the loving fear of God and being Christlike), faith, love, steadfastness (patience), and gentleness of heart.

Need i say more the bible as spoken  

bros answer my question na. tks

@ kunle, may i ask how old you are kind sir? if u dont feel like disclosing this online you may tell me me the age range as in between 60 - 70.

many thanks

Ilelobola:
If I remember well, it was since the palaver KICC had with the Charities Commission in 2005 that most pentencostal churches started handing out forms to receive tithes as they were required to have records etc especially with them getting Gift Aid from HMRC, making filings to the commission. I think an inherent belief that most Africans churches/pastors were here to swindle the congregation and perhaps general lack of understanding on how churches work in Nigeria/the rest of Africa (debatable but eh?) on the part of the commission and a lack of understanding of requirements to qualify as a charitable organisation on the part of the churches. CoE takings are so small and almost insignificant that they are not required to do this.

Also, most people do not carry cash around in the UK. It's more convenient to make a donation using a card and I think other churches including the CoE should make the facility available to their congregation.

And no I am not a member of KICC neither am I motivated by their Senior Pastor's teachings but the UK Guardian should not be reporting half truths.

the guardian is a left leaning news paper.  the main reason for the strict record keeping is the gift aid scheme as you said which you will never be entitled to unless you are registered as a charity by you know who. you see the logic.

most churches do not belong to the charities commission and the ECEA Afro caribean evangelical alliance that most belonged to is closing as we speak because of lack of funding so we are left with the general  EA evaqngelical alliance which we should all black/ white belong to  again there is no law requiring any church/ organisation to belong to any organisation in england/wales.

churches like victory didnt register with charities commission and are operating freely.  i think i said this before some of will never achieve in 300yrs what pastor matthew has done in fifty something yrs so can i recommend you shut up.  yes we know you are on NL and not being charged.

kanayo74:
I keep on wondering whats the duty of a woman in marriage?
you marry a wife who does virtally notyhing at home,
she cant wash the bed sheet both of u sleep,
she cant cook
she doesnt wash your clothes and so on
when u coplain you u become the nagging husband.

so please nairalanders WHAT ACTUALLY IS THE DUTY OF A WOMAN IN MARRIAGE

it always depends on why you married in the first place.

who was washing your clothes and cooking your food before you married?

~Sauron~:
U must be very intelligent. . . . . . .

The article clearly stated that his salary comes from his preachings and the proceeds he makes from books and DVDs.
How is that forcing the congregation to part with their money??
Nigerians and their disgusting aggression make me sick to ma stomach.

that article is one mans opinion of the situation so it doesnt matter that much.  if he sits with pastor matthew he will discover money is not in nos 1 - 9 motivation of his life.

it is a free world we can all run our mouth freely especially in cyber space. we live in the part of the world where by law all we earn and spend have to be accounted for and published for public records and even online.  i imagine how many of you will fall flat at the first hurdle if all you do was under scrutiny as some of us.  it is always so easy to judge others.

the guy has tried despite the battles he faced.  there is no stopping him now.  it is too late.  he has made his mark for good or bad in some of your books. he continue to touch lives in ways some of you can only imagine.  show us what you have acheived with all the yrs you have got.  some of you had the benefits of having rich parents plus being graduates which he never had. all you can do is run your mouth.   well seunland is free at point of use.

Pataki:
If this was to happen in Nigeria, the le fenu so peeps (naysayers), would have been shouting he is feeding on nescience and impecuniosity of the people to enrich himself. Now it is in the UK, can someone please tell me, whether the same is obtainable?

oga, you know some us dont know book please talk in plain laguage make i understand you very well i beg. thanks

mmmmmmmmmmmm bobo don run

lucabrasi:
@post
typical!!instead of directing your angst at the cause of the ineptitude and lethargic govt we have,pastor ashimolowo is the target,the british govt has had it in for the man as a result of institutional racism and their religious intolerance,he isnt the only one even redeedemed as well,the monies and properties in question isnt the man's personally but for k.i.c.c as an entity and he doesnt make decisions without the board of trustees so whats anyone's biz wax??
yes,he makes money and gets paid a salary but he works hard for that priviledge,people dont go to the church because its k.i.c.c. they go there to listen to pastor ashimolowo talk,his books,vcds,dvd and other memorabilia are borne out of years of painstaking research so he deserves any amount he makes out of them.he doesnt just preach prosperity but financial prudence from a xtian point of view and how xtians can drop the shakles of debt e.t.c
he was the very first person i heard talking about the dangers of sub prime mortgage and credit of any kind

as for what he is building in nigeria,we should be careful not to comment on what we dont know about,he is building an ultra modern hospital and nursing school,not in lagos but a village in osun state tos how how important his sense of social responsibility is

tks i keep saying the succees of people like him exposes the failures some people have become so you should expect these kind of envious write-ups on NL. i bet you will see the same people cursing the man hailing air head footballers earning his "obscene" 100K P.A weekly.

what is tyhe cure for the multiple threads on NL these days. i think it is on the increase now. seun, can you set up a warning system please.

MrCrackles:
Bloody thieving men of Satan!

Printing out forms to force people to part with thier hard earned money and hounding for donations from credit cards is definitely not GODLY!

This is so wrong if it is true, TITHES is not by force and not compulsory!

Man of God earning £100K/PA? Now that is GANGSTA! >

o boy u dey complain when men of the diabolical one earns $5m P/A? does envy have colour? u no dey complain when your footballers earn those figures weekly. softly softly jor. no get heart attack because of another man salary.

where is kunle for God sake?

fyneguy:
lol Kunle

How many churches have told you the % of their ''income'' that's spent on charity?

Kunle, let's face the fact. You are just like a typical Pharisee, who's looking for faults in everything.

They were so fault-minded that even when Jesus healed someone on Sabbath day, they rather picked on the inappropriateness of doing it that day.

Have you read 1 Corithians very well to find out the type of Church it was? Go and check the type of things going on in that particular church as written by Paul in chapters 1 to 5, and also find out if they were condemned even inspite of those things happening.

pls chill na. kunle na our brother.

@ kunle, may i ask how old you are kind sir? if u dont feel like disclosing this online you may tell me me the age range as in between 60 - 70.

many thanks

KunleOshob:
All the above questions are duplicative so i believe one answer should suffice for all of them: basically Jesus came to reconcile man with god and teach us the right path to follow so that we would live a life that peases God. His central messages were "repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" love God with all your heart and soul""the need to believe in him" and "love your neighbour as yourself" this four messages form the central theme of Jesus christ message on earth and it was all about reconcilling man with God.

oga kunle, thanks for answering questions today.  i read something here in    Mark 10 (New Living Translation)  can you kindly try explain verse 29/ 30 to me.   in lay man terms as you would have discovered most of us here are learning illeterates. thanks.

21 Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God!” 24 This amazed them. But Jesus said again, “Dear children, it is very hard[f] to enter the Kingdom of God. 25 In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!”

26 The disciples were astounded. “Then who in the world can be saved?” they asked.

27 Jesus looked at them intently and said, “Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But not with God. Everything is possible with God.”

28 Then Peter began to speak up. [size=15pt]“We’ve given up everything to follow you,” he said.

29 “Yes,” Jesus replied, “and I assure you that everyone who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or property, for my sake and for the Good News, 30 will receive now in return a hundred times as many houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and property—along with persecution. And in the world to come that person will have eternal life.[/size] 31 But many who are the greatest now will be least important then, and those who seem least important now will be the greatest then.[g]”

spikedcylinder:
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tks spiked. you are a star. God bless.

amebo no1.:
leilah i tot u were dead?dont tell me sara didnt dump u into the ocean

seriously i think u were typin this whilst your husband was giving you one anal sex , no wonder you just spoke in tongues here,cos i really did not understand one third of wat u typed or posted here, take a deep breathe and then out

shameless idiots, the earlier u and sara and d others know that ur nigerian men are not interested in u lot the better, no serious nigerian will wanna marry a woman whos skin turns red after one round of love making or marry someone with skin that is goin to tear off anytime soon

leilah and sara u gays are losers already, just enjoy the hell u call marriage for now, whilst ur men get ready to finally end up with women thinking with their brains and not their anus

bunch of fucking losers

not to bother i know alot of u whites are sluts, so im sure you can get pleasure from ur next door neighbour when ur husbands finally dump u

leilah dont forget to buy urself one of them anti-aging face and body creams for ur wrinkled skin, cos judging from ur picture i saw, im sure your husband will be looking out for young jamaican babes to cuddle

senseless assholes

press your IGNORE BUTTON pls. i dont usually ask for ban but i think she deserves a ban now.

Leilah:
amebo get a live your loser. Ignorant fool, ashewo ireland! heh it would be good enough for your ape ass! reptile face fckr!

without a doubt your hubby will cheat on you. cos yall sit and hope and pray to the LAAAWWWDDD and he aint gonna help your submissiveness to your hubbies cos God knows yall think your hubbies are better than God himself!!

nGo to blazes you looser go beg for money and recharge cards, fat fukc

leilah, are you on some drugs, stopped taking some medications or something else is not right?  what is the matter with you?  you have a very long history of calling naija men and women names here.  what do you expect when you call our women fools?.  i dont mind u calling the stupid idiot who married you names  but calling our women names is uncalled for. 

it is quite obvious you  have no respect for our people so can i recomend you kindly leave because you are causing offence.  you have not attended to seeing you have a better marriage here you are telling others about nigerians this our peole that. you are bang out of order.

Leilah:
he is just a liar, his family hung up the phone b'cos they know he has his papers now, therefore, they do not need to speak to you for anything. Starving yourself won't help, Nigerian men don't like skinny, vain women. He had issues with you before dint he? as regards your figure! see he needs a big 'booty' so leave him off. don't despair, go to your local health office, or a womans refuge, there are so many options out there. Better to get out of this now than later.

how did you know all these?

Leilah:
sara what are you on about? is he the only man on earth? dont you have your own family and your own friends??

Mad,  where are you from Sara?

I live in Dublin, is there anything I can do to help you?

you are now an advocate!  ever heard the word physician heal thyself?  didnt you have family when your fabulous anal loving fool was harrasing you?  the same people who helped you are the people you willingly abuse here today.  i think it is time we begin  to ignore you cos you come across as being not very nice that is because i am not one to start insulting other people you offend loads of people can you now please leave.  i cant believe people like you are still around.

Ajengogo:
Nairalanders should not allow themselves to be led by the nose by an ignorant poster ooooo. With what instrument did the so called friend make the withdrawal from the so called account? I am not a GTB staffer, anyway. I know that reconciliations are done at the close of work daily. If, at all, there was such anomaly, it would have been dectected immediately and corrected without the knowledge of the account holder.

I really feel that the poster is out to make a mockery of GTB's system or he is completely ignorant of the operations of the present day banking

mmmmmmmmm this is unbelievable. how can you say this in an open forum?  how does frauds go undetected for ages if what you are saying is 100% right?  

imagine i draw  a  cheque on your account that was paid to me undetected  you are telling this  " unlearned  forum " it would be detected at the end of the day through reconciliation  when they are more concerned with balancing the books.

please tell me i got you wrong.

nethacker:
@JJYOU, no probs, cheers

thanks bros

@ spiked, nice one. which catalogue did you get the items 1, 3 and 4 in your #3[b] April 14, 2009, 09:15 AM [/b] post? tks

yousouph:
I ave heard from foreigners that getting visa to Naija is not cheap but neva heard Naija deporting not even to start with Dan Foster. Anyway, if Dan deportation follows due process without malice, see no crime in it when Nigerians were being deported at every opportunity

it is even better ex girl friends can now allegedly deport from nigeria according to some ugly rumour people at least

fyneguy:
Hmmm Kunle. I didn't know you were aware of anything called ''correct you in love'', as your various posts proved otherwise. I also pray that God would use you for propagating the gospel of Jesus Christ (I dont know about you reconciling the church to christ as it's unscriptural), rather than being an accuser of brethren.

the heavens should rejoice over the repentance of one saint  dont you think?

i can just imagine bishop oyedepo, adeboye, oyakhilome and  tithe payers squating in kunle's and OBJ massion's boys quarter in heaven.  i am beginning to love hatred and lawlessness. i need another bible kunle  can you help a false brother please.  hope that is not a sin?

@ Netcraker,  it looks this is a double thread  so i refer you to the answer i and OP gave you in the other thread

Re: GT Bank And Arbitrary Charges: 2500 Naira For A Letter!
« #54 on: Today at 11:33:47 AM »
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I love u JJ,  Kiss  u r fun to be with  Grin , let's meet on YIM, mine is on my profile Tongue

[b]oga,  thanks for the offer.  i will like to add that i dont hate you. this is nothing personal. i refer you to the reply  below. sorry i dont do chats online. this is the shoody practices nigerian banks do that get them in trouble overseas. i am an ex banker. nigerian and overseas so i am talking with a litle bit of inside knowledge. last year we discussed intercontinental bank some where here. i was excitted about them cos i am a nigerian. i was shocked when my wife told me they charge for running current accounts. i pointed this to the girl selling us the account her word was " oga what is a couple of hundred of pounds to you and madam".  that was not the point. the point was why do i need to pay for services i get free from other banks.

go check my previous post you will see i general defend banks but not on this one. nigerian banks charge too much and that is official. stop trying to defend the indefefencible. you are not preaching to the choir on this one bros.
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Quote from: ekoree on Today at 07:52:40 AM

I feel sorry for these Gt bank mouthpieces. I never complained about paying for bank statement. Of course, u can print that online. The complaint is simple - I was clearly told about payment for bank statement. I consented. I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT THERE IS A N2,500 CHARGE FOR A LETTER. AND MY ACCOUNT WAS NOT DEBITED UNTIL 2 DAYS LATER. If insulting people with complaints is the best GT Bank mouthpieces can do,  I wish them well. For the oga at Gtbank who wants to take this up, thanks. You can start by going to find out from your customer feedback system, as I did lodge complaints twice. Start by finding out why your customer service will not respond to a simple complaint by a customer.

I will not dignify the innuendoes and insinuations with a response.  I guess some of these guys are too daft that there are a number of nairalanders who are silent bystanders, who don't post, unless absolutely necessary. The day our service providers realise they are not infallible and begin to place value on what a simple apology can achieve, that will be the day.


Thanks guys, for your contributions. Essence of post achieved. Peace.

tks for your IV. have a good day kind sir.

solosimple:
@Pekmide
See, it's good to recommend denominations to people, but I have little problem with the idea b'cos your recommendation will be based on your knowledge (what you count to be true and accurate) Don't you think a member of Olumba Olumba will also recommend his church to people? someone has recommended an assembly to me before, only to get there and see an open display of manipulation and falsehood. We can only trust the word of God. while it is true that we mustn't forsake the assemblies of one another, I think personal conviction matters most since we shall give account of our deeds individually.

If only men will allow the Bible to speak for itself and not adding their own thing, if only men will will take God's word as it is without twisting it, THE WORD OF GOD WILL SPREAD Act19:20; 20:32

In conclusion, make sure you have proven an assembly with the word of God(in their teachings, practices and actions) before you recommend it , Remember, misleading someone is not different from killing the person.

Shallom!

there is nothing wrong in recommending something you feel is good to some one. who are we to judge denominations? i know many good cele people who are better and lead christian life than tongue talking, bible quoting, loveless pentecostals.

i dont like my church is better than your church attitude but i can tell you to come to my church and feel comfortable doing it.

this phrase is good

If only men will allow the Bible to speak for itself and not adding their own thing, if only men will will take God's word as it is without twisting it, THE WORD OF GOD WILL SPREAD Act19:20; 20:32

but how do i refuse to go to church because i am scared of wrong fellowships and not violate hebrews 10 :25 "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.?

in the midst of our thinking we are the only one standing, can i refer you to this word in

1 Kings 19:18 (King James Version)

18 [size=18pt]Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.[/size]

God will always ever have a minority that are faithfull. we are not the only people doing right. the church of Christ is always bigger than ours.