₦airaland Forum

omenka: Shekau is dead, we have no doubts about that. What we would like to know is when Boko Haram sponsors are gonna be exposed and brought to justice

Thank you.

MissTeaseMe: This is why seun removed the other thread from front page. No doubt the high and mighty are here with us on nairaland.

Here are quotes from the removed thread

This, in fact, is a good write-up from the Defence Headquarters. That is why the other thread ought to be at the front page. Now, the way the media works is you give voice to both sides of the story. When I noticed that Nairaland had started pushing only one side of the story to the front page, I realised something was amiss. The moment an outfit can no longer be relied upon to dispense information without fear or favour, the moment it becomes guilty of pandering to one side, it has lost credibility and in societies where people are highly discerning and discriminating, that could spell its death. I will stop here.

MissTeaseMe: You are right.
But do you know the pressure seun must be under as the owner of nairaland. I am sure the government and politicians must be breathing on his neck night and day.

What I don't understand is why our government is minded by North Korea-minded people. What purpose is served by suppressing this video? No wonder David Mark was proposing to start censoring the Internet! After one week Mike Omeri or Chris Olukolade will come out and dismiss the video, after pretending for a long time that it didn't exist.

Johnnoo: @Op; you need to be scrutinized

Boko Haram makes a video and sends it to AFP. Someone copies it from AFP's website and posts it on NL. Now you want to lynch that someone for that! Why don't you people use your heads?

So why has this been removed from the front page? This is a video from AFP made by Boko Haram making a bold CLAIM. The video is on major Nigerian TV stations.

I wonder when Nairaland started taking orders from government spokesmen and e-thugs! So what do you people hope to achieve? Suppress the video? It's already on major TV stations and is all over the Internet.

I believe the guy in the video is another fake Shekau (I have seen the videos) but the way to defeat these mass murderers is not to try to suppress the news. When you do that all it shows is that you have something to hide and that undermines your credibility. It makes Nairaland a part of "them"!

cc: Seun, Mynd44, OAM4J, etc.

slap1: I do not fancy the APC one bit (I'd gladly vote GEJ again IF I'll vote). That said, it is very disgraceful and annoying for people to always finger the APC as culpable for any remotely negative news about Nigeria. It stinks of puerility. PDP supporters should show some maturity.

It's the kind of politicisation, roforofisation and bole kajisation of serious national issues engaged in by the both sides. It makes Nigerian politicians look disgusting.

ebucha: Good news. You can never see good news like this on Aljazeera and CNN.
Let the Amerian dominated WHO build world's biggest health research centre in Nigeria or we tell them the solution is to bath with salt and hot water before 6AM.

But Vanguard is not a reputable news source. Nowhere in the article does it quote anyone as saying he was sending observers to Nigeria. The US CDC already has people here and some of them were involved in the Ebola management. Anyway, there's nothing strange about collaboration in epidemiology. Chukwu said he followed WHO recommendations in managing the crisis. The WHO gathered its knowledge from working in other countries. That's how it's done.

Obynobyl: Although I support pdp and this current president, I will gladly vote for Fashola if APC gives him the ticket, but if its the same crop of recycled leaders presonified in Atiku and co, I'll rather remain with GEJ.

I have to agree with the bolded. APC fIelds some yesterday general or some uninspiring born to rule fellow, I close my eyes, vote GEJ and brace myself for the mindless the should continue.

proudly233: Most of the people commenting didn't read the article, they were sentenced to 25 years each which is not a fair judgement.

Judgement followed the law. They were found with very bad and illegal things but they haven't killed anyone yet so no murder charge.

NwaAnambra: Arthur Eze, G.U.O, Bishop Okonkwo, Sir Emeka Offor, Chikason, Seaman, Fenabros limited and so on

Some of the names you listed here are very coarse and I would not use them as examples of anything positive. I kind of admire GUO. I don't know the last three but Arthur Eze and Emeke Offor are just

bolukaz: 8 succesful people alone? Why not take a short trip around your hood and observe scores of uneducated people living 'just' around the poverty line, these people just happened to get a 1-in-a-million chance of making it big in an education-driven society

No society is entirely university-degree driven and no society can live without its educated professionals. The fact is that if success to you equals making lots of money a degree is the last thing you need.

By the way, we can just equally "observe scores" of graduates who are poor in Nigeria.

rattlesnake: But somebody else who went to university on their behalf was behind their success......

Don jazzy cant make music without some software developer
Coscharis cant sell cars without the engineerw who made the cars
Famfa oil cant do business without the oil engineers
Mercy Johnson cant have Big braests without Dr 90210

etc etc etc

I will rather go to school

It's good to go to school but your argument above just reinforces what the OP is saying - your engineers, software developers, breast enhancers, etc, are going to end up working for and being controlled by those who didn't to go school.

The fact is that if you're a Bill Gates, Orji Uzor Kalu or Seun Osewa, wasting time on a degree is just going to hold you back and clip your achievements. But we're not all Gates, Kalu or Osewa so school is okay for many.

Acidosis: I hope they won't put the blame on Nigerians

Your post doesn't make any sense. But then almost all the posts in this thread don't.

fkaz: Noting like fooling one here, if the church said they follow the standard rule and got approval to build a 12 story building, it is left for lagos govt to defend it whether they approve it or not.

That's right. Some LASG people had said there was no approval. Someone is lying.

aljharem: Falana and soyinka have sold their souls for a house in ikoyi

Moreover soyinka son is an SA in ogun state


You see how stu.pid they are ?

Is falana in ekiti to already be accusing fayose.

Partisan politics since money done enter pocket

Ol' boy! Whoever is in charge of recruiting the "internet warriors" sure knows how to pick 'em.

LegatusGlaber: Kudos to the military.


But what is monstrous about this tank?

Lol

BlackTechnology: Jonathan I no support you for this one you talk oooooo


Poverty can only reduce when people create businesses that employs people.

Businesses that create jobs can only come into existence when people

1) See it as part of their civic responsibility

2) Are willingly to give out long term low interest rate loans to small medium and large scale businesses

3) Are willingly to go into business partnership directly or indirectly



In all these, the FG has failed to massively educate Nigerians to apply these 3 understanding and lots more


How many Nigerians earning at least 50 000 naira monthly are saving with the intention of going into part time business or lending long term low interest loans to businesses after 10yrs of savings.


In the thread " 7 things about Switzerland you don't know, the OP made us realise that some things were not automated in order to create jobs for book keepers because the swiss believe in low unemployment."


GEJ in this area I will score you 10%

Bolded is a particularly important point that is not often talked about. No society where two random individuals cannot come together and do business can progress. It takes two things to achieve such a society - societal values which breed trust, and the rule of law which produces a judiciary the citizens can rely on knowing that if anything goes wrong the courts can be trusted to settle the matter according to law.

@ KA24DETT

No, it’s not only you that knows how the defence system works elsewhere. The issue here is Nigeria producing arms and Nigeria is simply not there yet. We do not have the Lockheed Martins, the EADSes, the Boeings and co. And I don’t see us doing so in a long time. I don’t think Nigeria must produce arms – we can concentrate on other areas and import arms if the law of comparative advantage so dictates. But should arms production be desirable, then an existing government agency with links to the military can undertake it in a country like the Nigeria of today. They can start small – maybe reverse engineering or get designs from elsewhere. That’s how the Chinese and the Southies started.

I don’t see the private sector playing a significant role in a long time. Maybe when we have electricity, and the private sector has found its foot in relevant industries like civilian sheep building and steel fabrication. You will also need a system where the rule of law is more entrenched than it is now to ensure REGULATION, especially for small arms and light weapons, since you don’t want automatic weapons popping up all over Onitsha market.

naijaobi: Ghana should be a state in Nigeria..lol..
Ghana's real estate..... Controlled by Nigerians.
Ghana's Market... Controlled by Nigerians
That Ghana has electricity today is Nigeria.
Ghana girls... Controlled by Nigerians.
Ghana's economy... Controlled by Nigeria.
Etc etc etc etc etc.
My dear Ghana brethren, please stop hating on Nigerians. We are ur big brother and will continue to be so. We are not equal. Yes u may be older, but we are bigger and wiser. Age is just a number.
God bless Nigeria.
God bless Ghana and all other states in Nigeria
God bless Africa.

Lol. If them catch you, ehn?

BlackTechnology: First and foremost you are mixing up development and mass production

Development of weapons means design , fabrication and testing of new weapons or modification of old weapons.

Once a newly developed weapon is approved , it will then be mass produce at DICON

You do not leave the fate of over 140million people in the hands of DICON when there are University/Polytechnic students option you can simultaneously utilized alongside DICON

Do you know why Hitler could not invade Switzerland even when Swiss do not have a standing army.?

Because every male swiss receives military training and given a gun to keep at home.

This is the major reason why Hitler who was bold to invade Russia was scared to invade Switzerland.


If you were Swiss leader in the days when Swiss were contemplating it, you would have opposed it and centuries later , Hitler would have invaded Switzerland

The problem with you is that you are fearful and I understand considering the part of the country you come from.


My friend

For now Nigeria needs [/b]to quickly build up her defense within 5years and that can be quickly achieved when we involve our universities and polytechnics in weapons development as DICON staff play their role.

[b]We do not have time on our side now that US has started acting funny.

Pls stoppppppp being fearful.

If it worked in swiss and Northern Europe it can work in Nigeria this time in the area of weapons development.

Rather than acknowledge the role of corruption in all this or even cite one country where universities are involved in the stages of arms production, you have decided to widen this into nonsenses about tribe, Switzerland and definitions of development.

If you ran a search around here you will find posts to convince I’m a supporter of Ihejirika. The difference is that my support for him is based on principle, whereas yours is based on ethnicity. That is why you have assumed (wrongly, but does it matter?) that I must be Yoruba since I dare call for the government to do the right thing when the name of someone from your ethnic group is mentioned. For you, there are two group in Nigeria – Biafrans and others and each group is made up of undifferentiated people who all think alike. That is why you have arrogated to yourself the spokesman for “Biafrans” on this matter since to you all Biafrans think alike and should automatically agree with you.

I don’t have time to school you on the dynamics that saved Switzerland from WWs 1 & 2 but it may interest you to know that there were countries with trained male populations which were attacked and countries with untrained populations which weren’t. Anyway, I am a longtime supporter of compulsory military training for males, something you are strangely confusing with your no good idea of tasking universities and polytechnics with arms production, err development.

I already conceded that designs can come out of universities – since anybody can come up with a design and if it’s good the relevant industries will adopt it. Why don’t you cite examples of universities that are involved in arms “development”?

People like you, people who can’t beyond parochial interests, are the real problems of society – in Nigeria tribal considerations won’t let them condemn corruption once their kinsman is involved and if you give them Biafra they won’t know what do with it since their life course is about agitating for Biafra.

At least, you now agree that Dicon has a role – that’s progress. For now, Nigeria needs to stop whining about America not giving them weapons (as if the AK-47s they have been using forever came from America) and IMPORT weapons from Eastern Europe, Asia or wherever to defeat Boko Haram. You have a war to fight – just stop hankering after weapons you never had, stop stealing and get the job done. After that draw up a plan that should ensure limited self-sufficiency in armament within the next 5 to 10 years by repositioning Dicon. Dicon can take good designs from wherever they come – universities, Ariaria market, Black Technology’s laptop, anywhere, as long as it’s good. Private sector participation can be encouraged but not in today’s Nigeria for so many reasons – unless we can get our act together.

Thank you.

BlackTechnology: There is no society where corruption is not found.
The fact is, in some societies systems were created to curtail the effect of corruption I.e make the effect of corruption insignificant
The problem with people like you is that you attack corruption headlong instead of flanking or encircling corruption
This is the same mistake Sanusi made and failed unlike his predecessor Soludo
Example of how some universities outflanked or encircled corruption instead of attacking it directly
At least 3 lecturers handle a course and the scores divided amongst them. This prevents a scenario where one lecture has absolute power to determine the fate of a student in a course.

In America, the threat of coup, autocracy etc is one major reason the US has two major armed forces(Marines and Army) under two different command chains answerable to the president through the defense secretary. It is also the major reason the americans are allowed to carry guns in order to defend their liberty against coups or sit tight presidency

In summary instead of wasting time searching for those who smartly siphoned money meant for DICON weapons development exposing Nigeria to threat of internal or foreign invasion, it is safe fast and certain we allow our bright students/lecturers engage in weapons related projects to secure our independence.


If you insist on your idea no problem but let it be applied when Odua Arewa or whatever new nation you will find yourself.

But as for me and other Biafrans, this is the idea we will uphold. Which is why we are advicing GEJ to take our path and prevent another colonialism.

Aren't you being a bit presumptuous by presenting yourself as anyone's spokesman on this matter?

Anyway, if your argument is gun liberalisation like they have in America, that's a different subject. To be sure, I don't support gun liberalisation, but I recognise that it has its merits and, like I said, it's a different subject. What I was arguing against is the workability or arming abi tasking universities to go into arms production in the middle of a war. I also argued that even in peace times arms are produced by industries, not universities. When South Africa was faced by sanctions it looked inwards and began to reverse engineer weapons technology. Today, they're a respectable arms-producing country. No, not through their universities. Through industries. We've tried things here by establishing Dicon - for where?

I agree with you that corruption requires a systematic approach. But Nigeria has got to a stage where anything you throw at corruption they find a way to defeat it - because the money they steal is way too much for anything to stand in their way. What you need is a multi-faceted approach. You can't fight corruption when impunity reigns. Never. Once there is no punishment for crime whatever system you put in place would be messed up. Your HOD will simply impose his will on the three lecturers and have them award marks to his okpeke and he will get away with it. How many years did they give Bernie Madoff for scamming would-be investors, 90? That's what I'm talking about. Until we starting doing that sort of thing we're not serious and we won't get anywhere - whether you allocate funds to Dicon or to universities, all of which are forced to run on diesel.

Godmother: Mehn, I hope her husband never gets to see this oh. Would do well. We all have an idea of what marriage in Nigeria is all about, but most women wud never come out boldly like this for fear of d repercussions

She's columnist, a professional writer. She wasn't talking about herself.

damselalayo: How will terrorism be curbed in Nigeria if they release the chibok girls in exchange for the terrorists in detention,that will only buttress their activities.

Please tell them. I hope this is not true for everyone's sake.

2sexi: FTC things... tears shirts, removes trouser... removes boxers... start dancing shoki...
I don't think Fashola has done better than Akpabio in terms of infrastructural development... My Opinion.
In my school slang :" Akpabio finish work" walahi.
Sagamite, have you been to Uyo, Akwa Ibom? That dude is the best Governor to have grace the circles of Nigeria's political platform.

You get to hear such things about Akpabio in some places but it's a lie. A huge, fat, utter, clanging lie.

BlackTechnology: Answer this question Mr wise guy

If DICON step is the best step, why are we still importing advance weapons even to the point of running to China who was at the same level with us in 1960 after US ignored our cries for weapons

Wait until US invades Nigeria sucks us dry like Iraq under the guise of fighting corruption just as they accused Sadam of weapons of mass destruction they never found after wasting Iraqis


Think logically not emotionally

Nigeria at this time needs to rebuild her military after which the universities can channel their resources to other important things

Now, what I believe you are saying is that in the middle of a war, the way out is the universities - let them start teaching weapons technology (with professors and lecturers drawn from Onitsha market) building weapons labs (which you believe can be fully functional and produce weapons to fight Boko Haram just now just now), while we ignore Dicon which already has some residual facilities in place! You're a genius.

You, sir, are the one being emotional!

Now, to your question - I'm assuming you don't really know the answer already even though it's the subject of this thread.
Dicon is not working because of .... corruption. It's not working because when billions are budgeted they simply disappear. That is the issue Jonathan and some of you like to hide your heads in sand about. We have been hearing of the budgeted billions followed by an ill-equipped army. If Jonathan was competent he would have probed that -maybe it's Ihejrika, maybe it's not, he would have found out. So you think there is no viral corruption in Nigeria just as there was no WMD in Iraq? You people are not serious abeg.

chlowi: In the face of adversary, you know your friends and foes! I hope this serves as a lesson, invest in yourself

That's right.

BlackTechnology: If God is to judge will he condemn Ihejirika and free IBB OBJ TY etc


You guys think like humans and not goat


If you want to end corruption, start from the earlier defaulters.

*sigh*
Here we go again. If you must accuse Mr A of corruption, accuse all other corrupt people first.
If you must arrest Godogodo for armed robbery, arrest all the robbers in Nigeria first.
If you arrest the kidnappers of Ejigbo LGA chairman, arrest all the kidnappers in Nigeria first.

I mean, I don't know if Mr Ihejirika is guilty of what he's been accused of or not, but the above argument is just... brilliant!

BlackTechnology: Do you know the meaning of the word DEVELOP in terms of weapons.

To develop a weapon is different from mass production

To develop a weapon means to design and fabricate a copy of a new/innovated weapon or existing weapon.

Stop creating unnecessary fear that do not exist

US actions is a clear message that its time to join India and China in becoming a truly independent regional power.


May I ask you

Which step will guarantee success

A) few hundreds of brain behind weapon development in DICON
B) Many thousands of brain behind weapon development in the Universities/Polytechnics.

Pls do not stir up my anger against

If you like being bully some of us do not like being bully.

Now project this idea if you truly love Black man independence from colonialism or neo_colonialism.

No, I will not project it. What you are proposing is not workable. Even if it were, there would be arms all over the place. Option A will guarantee success, not B. Ever heard of comparative advantage? Efficiency comes with specialisation. You don't need everyone trying to make weapons to be able to make weapons. You need people researching other things too - like, remember, energy and the likes. Without electricity your idea is dead on arrival.

Tell me what country's universities are producing arms. Tell me one major arms producer that has strong links with a university.

Yes, I conceded in my post that it is okay for a university to design weapons, but not the manner you are proposing. Yes, Nigeria should have become a regional power long ago - corruption is what stands in the way. Say no corruption if you love independence and want to end neo-colonialism.

BlackTechnology: You are damn wrong

Weapons development can be achieve through the Universities/Polytechnics faster especially in times like this

I see you're not bothered about proliferation. That's why you want to admit whole generations of unvetted young people into arms manufacturing. In the countries you mentioned earlier arms are not produced at colleges. The famous gun designers we know such as Kalashnikov and the Israeli Uzzi major were not undergraduates. They're mosly military or military-allied people. That is why Dicon is a good idea. Not that there's anything wrong with a design coming out of a university but suggesting that schools produce arms is a bad idea.

kettykin: how come the same US just woke up 1 year after he left the army,
when will the cry for the probe of Obasanjo and his subsidy loot , Danjuma, Babangida ,yaradua and co

How exactly are these the business of the US? Why don't you wake up and write appropriate agencies to call for their probe to begin sorting out your own country? You think they'd give a hoot about your army's stolen billions if your government hadn't solicited their help on fighting terrorism.

BlackTechnology: Forget corruption

Just instruct the National University Commission ( NUC) to insist that weapons related projects be conducted at students, departmental, departmental society, faculty, university, state, geopolitical, regional and national levels.

Then you will see the type of weapons Nigerians can develop.


You don't need political will but political direction through political instruction

That is what brought out the best in Biafran technology.

Never underestimate your undergraduates is the secret behind Japan India and China success.

Until we do this, US will continue to bully us the way they bullied India and China years ago

Forget corruption? You sound like Jonathan. If only you know how many billions get stolen everyday you will realise the Yanks are not the cause of our lack of electricity for err universities to produce weapons or for the state of our country and its military. In a serious country people like Ihejirika would long have been asked to give account for the state of our military after the budgeted billions. No Americans necessary.

BlackTechnology: That's true and GEJ maintained it

Don't forget GEJ has increased trade with China/non-western nations and refused Gay law.



Until Nigeria starts taking the development of indigenous weapons by tasking her universities to carry out weapons related projects at students, departmental, faculty, university, state, geopolitical, regional and national levels, The US will continue to bully us the way they did to China and India years ago.

Bad idea. Arms production is tightly controlled, not contracted out to unis. Dicon needs to get cracking.