₦airaland Forum

I am proud to be a Nigerian but I am not proud of Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:
First you assert that I somewhere claim that having a database is wrong. Then you tell me that by not sharing the same view as you do on two occasions, you are lead to believe that I would support practices/projects which have UK/American slant to them. Then you label me a skeptic out of the blues and go on to tell me that my assumed skepticism is born out of an aversion for anything western rather than purely on conviction(lord knows of what). And you then follow that by asking me if you are wrong . . . . Are you now telling me you do not know how deeply deluded your assumptions seem to make you appear here??
Dude, you do not need to
1) Read my posts
2) Respond to my posts at all
If you have a problem with me having differing opinions on issues, all you need do is ignore me. But for you to continue making baseless claims and drawing ridiculous conclusions based on ideas drawn from thin air, I am forced to beg that you please ignore my posts, and maybe my person, so you can better focus on thread topics rather than on my person. This is just ridiculous!!

If you are unable to see the argument, then I must be mistaken in my assessment.

Why would a man who says you dont need to wait for proper structures before implementation of one thing turn around to say that another thing cannot be implemented for lack of proper structures? Same person also saying it was a good thing to get indebted even if you have no proper reason/plan for the indebtedness!

the label of sceptic was not general as I made clear that the sceticism relates to things Nigerian (you seem to see everything before you as something to confront in battle - I merely made the statement, not as an indictment).

I do not want to get involved in any fights here over political issues.
These things are plain enough for anyone to see!

I will have to remind you of a discussion on democracy where I stated that Nigeria does not have the proper structures and public mentality for a western style democratic government. You made statements indicating that we should not wait for the structures before putting the practice into place in Nigeria.

You also had a very interesting opinion on the world bank loan recently saying it was a good thing that Nigeria was getting a loan from the world bank, despite most people asking what will happen to the loan in the light of past loans which have brough nothing but further crippling indebtedness into the nation.

With those 2 instances, I am beginning to believe that you will support practices/projects which have UK/American slant to them.

I realise that you are a sceptic concerning policies in Nigeria, so am I. However, I believe that your sceticism may be borne out of an aversion for anything western rather than purely on conviction. . .or perhaps your convictions are such that anything western has to be good and anything that is Nigerian without a western touch has to be bad.

Am I wrong?

@kobojunkie, how exactly is it wrong to have a database?

I know you wont oppose the idea if the guy said upfront that all the equipment to be used for gathering the database will be purchased from US and UK.

desgiezd:
Because Aondoakaa, a man with a weird name full of multiple vowels, is our Minister of Justice.

he he he

Its one of the risks involved in marrying someone who already has a child. She obviously knows she's doing the wrong thing but she is either unwilling or unable to change.

I dont see what you can do about the situation again. She's 29. You're only going to have to go through the pain and persevere.

Spare a thought for any man who decides to fall in love with her.

nuzo:
Your case is more like the pharisee praying boasting nearby a tax collector in the church.
However, if this is the way you've been living your life; good for you and good for people around you. In Christianity; your type does not need more attention from the pastor or whoever cos you have attained the level of what Christianity is all about.

Pastors are meant to draw looters, killers etc closer and not people like you who have already been saved.

Personally, I dont believe in Adeboye (not that he cares anyway), but I dont see anything wrong with a pasto/ Adeboye shaking hands with a visitor to his church but I will have problems when I see Gani shaking hands with OBJ or Ibori.

All in all, keep up your good deeds even if no one notices.

I am no pharisee. I only stated those things to show what I believe I also qualify for. Paul stated his credentials as well. . . is he also a pharisee for it?

Pastors are actually supposed to feed the flock and be sheperds. They draw looters as well in the process of evangelising. However, glorification of looters will only serve the purpose of encouraging the flock to become looters in order that they might also gain the kind of popularity that looters seem to have with pastors.

poster is right. They should be tried in Nigeria where the offence was committed. Why should the Nigerian government send them to Slovakia for trial?

Someone needs to sack the president for running an inept government

This is why a man needs to think well before getting into marriage. It's not just about what we call love because that so-called love tends to fade in the presence of other factors of marriage.

A woman who's body is more important than her family and a man who places greater importance on having children than his wife's looks is not a good combination for marriage.

Many little things that we overlook are important in marriage because the attitude of the other party towards things will be magnified when you get married.

If you can point out anytime that I have disrespected anyone here who has not incited it, I will apologise to you unconditionally.

The fact that you are unable to find any response to the above is enough for anyone with any level of intelligence to see what is really on here

spikedcylinder:
No wonder you don't get any respect here either.

Thats the issue. You assume that any woman that has the audacity to oppose you (objectively or otherwise) is rude and you immediately assume that woman can never be married or never be happy.
Why do you relate everything to marriage (as you have obviously done in a thread that has nothing to do with that)? Like that your only reference/defense mechanism?
For instance, do you know tpia personally? Do you know if she's married? No.
Shame.

Have I ever asked anyone to respect me here?

You are the ones looking for respect but you are always quick to insult people and then you claim one is disrespecting women. If my wife insults me everytime I disagree on something, we wont be married.

I have never asked anyone to respect me here so I dont care if you disrespect me. I dare any evil seer here to show anyone that I have insulted without being insulted first!

so tpia thinks that if men chase her, it is a sign that she will have a good married life!!! just confirmed your immaturity again. Wait till you find out.

Time will tell

Yar A'dullard is a Fulani man. . . WHEN THEN?

tpia:
$1 Million dollar question.

When (if) you get a husband, tell him to be the stepping block for women with no direction in their lives and see where it gets him.

Respect is earned. . . not demanded

I dont subscribe to women being silly and acting like everything revolves around them and then expect me to act stupid in the name of respect. There's a difference between respect and stupidity.

I respect people who respect themselves.

If you can point out anytime that I have disrespected anyone here who has not incited it, I will apologise to you unconditionally.

This will send signals to Mugabe so he will soon take lessons on how to build a fortified Aso rock in Zimbabwe.

He might call it Zimba rock

I hope some other pastors can take a leaf from Bakare and start doing what they profess rather than seeking human recognition all over the place

I wonder if Pastor Adeboye will grant me half the audience he granted this man. . .I have tried to live my life devoid of fraudulent activities and stealing. I have not robbed any man. I have paid tithes (not very regularly, I must admit). I have helped many people in life without first depriving them of their rights and privileges. I have worked hard to get whatever I have.

Why should I go to church and be relegated but when a thieving man goes to church, he gets all the attention?
Why?
Why?

you dont want to do it, dont do it.

I beg you not to fall for any trick. No guy stays with a girl just for the sex. . . if he does, there will never be anything serious in the relationship. . . it will just be about sex.

I pray that you will have the strength to continue keeping yourself

spikedcylinder:
Yes of course. And you, Sheik Ibn JustGood has a problem with vocal women.

I have a vocal enough wife and I dont have a problem with her.

Ohhhhhh of course she is not one to try and make me her slave at home. She knows that she is my God-given wife and I am her God-given husband. She does not seek to just please herself; she takes me and the children into consideration in what she does; she realises that her life is not just hers to live but that we are living our lives together. . . yes!!! that's why I chose to marry such a woman . . .

. . .and NOT the kind which seems abundant here.

FBS:
If she so much wants her independence, why is she so afraid to go back to Nigeria. There she will get all the freedom she wants.

This made me laugh

Just want to add before the killers come on their usual attack: Britain's legal age of consent is 16 whereas in most places in America, if you have sex with a 16 yr old, you'll end up in jail.
Hopefully, we can also vent some anger at the British

If the legal age of marriage/consent is 12, all that needs to be done is to highlight this to our parliamentarians. There's no Nation where they still dont have some relics of their archaic laws. The difference is that they take steps to rectify such while we sit and cry and abuse everybody in sight.

Everyone should put pen to paper and demand that their representatives push for a change to such a daft law. That's what democracy is! it's not just about screaming and abusing everything Nigerian. Other nations also had, and still have, some daft laws which they are changing as they progress.

Meanwhile the father of those girls should be brought to shame one way or the other.

I remember when I was a kid always thinking that our 2 houseboys were distant relatives

This is one of the reasons Aso Rock was built as a fortified city!

The other national dickheads in Africa will soon learn the trick of Aso Rock

Kobojunkie:
Again, with the seeming!! Gosh!!! May I ask that you read my threads as if you were reading from me the first time. That way you would not keep seeing that which is not there, as I am quite sure, since others are able to read the exact same posts and understand them as is, that it is your perception here that is at fault.

I hope my perception is actually at fault as you stated

Of course I expected antagonism for that from Nairaland. Afterall this is an internet forum where many of the most vocal ones are the ones who live abroad.

Abominable.

Should the government not be arresting some people? What is the legal age of consent and what age is it legal to get married?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=240736.msg3533095#msg3533095 date=1236002309]I disagree.
Women staying under their parents roof can also act too independent for the kind of relationship a long lasting marriage requires.
Being independent has nothing to do with the attitude some of our women exude.[/quote]You tell me what you base that on.

I already said my statement is based on what I have observed

Australia shows its true international colours again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4gBVIHvGJk&feature=related

Kobojunkie:
If the Idea was FROM some foreign group, I would not be against it because

1) If it bombs, and it is not our money being used to source it in the first place, I AM GOOD.
2) I doubt any reputable company, FOREIGN OR NOT, would embark on such a project using its own resources, without ensuring that the data collected will be at least 60% useful, in the end.

Now, explain why you ask.

I aksed because you seem to always want anything western and nothing Nigerian. . .yet you expect Nigeria to develop.

Sorry, it digresses from the thread