gaius01: Wow am in awe right now. Are you saying even it means cheating or what ever in as much its for the gospel nobody should question it? Choi, please don't teach this to any Christian please I beg you.
People like you are the reason the worldly people point fingers at pastor, especially those doing and living big. That they put their members to send, give money to God with Force, which is not true!!
- Jesus was confronted by the tax collector about paying tax despite he was the son of the soil, but he asked Peter to go and get the money from the first fish he catch.
- Jesus fed 5OOO people with the little food they have. 2 fish and 5 loafs of bread. He didn't ask his disciples to go and steal it.
Alot of event happen that Jesus exhibits the trait of a righteous man, that is why the Bible told us he was without sin.
You can't say the above, it is wrong for you to say the above.
Besides the touch my anointing to mention is very wrong for the context you wrote.
At the bolded.........you re just excusing the reality.........we know money don't grow on trees......its either you worked hard for it of make someone work hard for it for you.
How do pastor(s) attain living big in the first place ?
OPT and OPM. Pastors are not different......its all business. End of quote!
gaius01: Oga chill small, you didn't read it bit by bit with understanding.
She said God told him that she has gotten a husband, and that he was the one. And she must sow a seed into his life. That's the first red flag that he was lying. Does that mean that she was buying him with the seed? I doubt, what he did there was from the spirit. God don't work in such ways !
2. She had a revelation, people can be so bond together that they can dream what ever they want to dream on anybody they like.
3. The pastor didn't follow any God leading, rather he follows his own selfish leading.
God don't work like that, if that relationship was divine, him telling her to sell her house on what ground? Telling her to pay tithe by force? The Bible told us that 'the people gàve Moses offering out of thier free will, it was not a force thing'. And if truly it was ordained by God then there is no way this will end like this.
All this' spirit said' , I don't accommodate all of them, I pray God give me the spirit to discern than listening to one talk that was not spur by the holy ghost. All I can see the pastor took her advantage and ate her money in the name of church and marriage.
He can't sleep with her, because that alone CNA destroy his reputation.
I honestly won't believe you....God work in mysterious ways... In this age and time....tithe is tithe irrespective if she paid with her life....after all, she would still not stop paying tithe after this experience
And we have accepted the fact that whatever approaches and style pastor(s) deviced to get the gospel going should not be questioned because of the written law..touch not my anointing and do my prophet no harm
I can't call this a spiritual 414 as she wanted people to believed.....
As she rightly said in her account....... both of them saw the vision.....within the same frame of time........and who knows, we that can't understand the things of the spirit........maybe holy spirit change his mind
What was i saying self ? They might have, in fact been married in the spirit but she want fleshy marriage.....but the diik went astray.
The pastor followed the spiritual commandments to the letter. She on the other hand derailed from spiritual commands, instructions and guidance; if not why would she be seeking court intervention in the things of the spirit ?
BiggyB242: I feel she would have made more than that over time if she had kept quiet. Not just money, she would utilize his connection as well. Possibly one of her friends had urged her to cash out but she got burnt.
Lol......
You have not observed women objectively........if not you would understand that they would be living as if they are rich but are nothing......they buy Gucci and all kind of designers to show off. Even if she get the $5m, a large chunk of it would be on material things that would add nothing of value but social media status quo to motivate other ladies of how women are becoming independent of men
I visited my cousin last December, while we were catching up on events she informed me she has started a loan company and proceeded to show me documents of her debtors..........I notice a perticular trends amongst the females debtors.
One borrowed 30k for business but she wore human hair on the passport attached to her file.
Another one borrowed 50k attached a full pictures as passport. If you see the accessories on her.........
I was like these your female debtors' life style does not commensurate with the amount the borrowed.
Female are just been confused and controversial about their agitations.......they are even an Oliver twist........you can't satisfy female desires......I read somewhere where there is agitation for gender neutrality in schools.....we should stop attaching female or male to student profile.
Their funny slogan is I don't need male protection, just don't hurt me!
The summary of their agitation is to lower the bar for the them; reduction in value and standard of men so that they can be at per.........it would have make more sense if value and standard of female be raise to be at per with male......but rather they just want free pass for everything irrespective whether they a correct or wrong.
And they are pushing the narrative that its normal for a male to cry, show emotion and insecurity just like female......but would woman like male with female traits ? Do female like feminine male ?
Ironically, they still request for male support to suppress male to their advantage......surprisingly, males are been blackmail emotionally to unconsciously uplift women without merit......they excused women flaws for been feminine
Female are far different from male by engineering. Logically It isn't fair to juxtapose male and female Physically, emotionally, mentally. Even in reasoning but that's what they claims they want even while they couldn't measure up to in certain reality;
The hurdles in female track athlete event are lower in height than that of male The boxing glove of female boxer is lighter and softer that that of female in every categories Now they are considering reducing the height of basketball net for female to be able to dunk.....even in football and lawn tennis the energy and shots of male can't be compare to the female counterpart.... just a few reality of gender equality....but feminist don't even like to discuss their inequalities to restructure nature for equality....they only want what they want.
Funny enough, they tend to rope every successful woman a feminist and project them as a product of the movement. Even those that were made by the same system they are condemning.
Women benefit far more than men in the Patriarchy system and i wonder why they want to throw themselves under the bus.........
If equality and gender neutrality become law.......It will definitely work against women in all aspect of being human......even their biological architecture will be a great disadvantage
The advantages of gender equality for men is numerous if all things would be equal as suppose
Chii59: Ever heard of "relationship dynamics"? Every relationship is different. Many of you that form "I can't take this" on nairaland, make far worse compromises for love offline. Abegggggi
Nothing is dynamic about any kind of relationships...so far you adhere to the rules of engagement.
I don't discuss what I won't take because you won't be given the chance to do what I won't take.
God creates laws and invalidates them as at when necessary to help His children become better persons and live better, more meaningful lives.
The same God of the Old Testament who asked for burnt offerings of animals and presentation of first fruits is the same God who gave His son, Jesus, to die for man's sins and, hence, overriding the need to offer sacrifices to Him as penances of our sins.
The same God who told His children to destroy and kill their enemies without sparing their young or wives is the same God who, through His son, who asked us to be forgiving of our enemies and help lead them to the light.
God surely wouldn't be in support of polygamy 'cause the world has changed ever since Solomon had more women than the days of the year in a Gregorian calendar. Overpopulation has its ills. Children from polygamous homes have to navigate the maze of life figuring out hard facts on their own. Dad is too busy placating his last wife so she wouldn't stab his second wife with a fork. The kids rarely have one-on-one moments with daddy and mummy feeds them 'hate pills' so they'd always be suspicious of their stepmums and half-siblings. How does a child with that background grow up fully functional? Need I mention the hanging cloud of disgust and resentment over the home? Is it even a home in the real sense if it isn't as peaceful as loving as a home should be? God wouldn't want His children to suffer these things.
Then again, it's cowardly to bring God into this. He already gave you the power of choice. He created the biblical Adam to bed and wife Eve; not Adam marrying Eve, her best friend and the girl down the street.
Jacob chose to marry Rachel after getting Leah. Solomon chose to marry in hundreds. Abraham chose to sleep with Sarah's maid, God didn't make him do it.
You chose to wed more than one woman. You chose to bring in more women. Oddly, all polygamous marriages in the bible had dire consequences. Joseph got sold by his half brothers. Ishmael hated Isaac. David's and Solomon's younglings of polygamous relationships fought themselves. That is God letting you know you'd live with your decision(s).
Live with your decision and cease seeking justification for it 'cause there is none...no rational one anyway.
One of those who think for God.
The idea of a God is so easy........you can do, talk, analyze and interpret anything and everything anyhow as and when suited.........its God.
God is just an open entity.....it support and reject anything and everything.....depending the point you wish to drive home
Chii59: No two people are the same. Same thing with relationships. The "nonsense" you speak of, makes him happy. So shift.
Too many bitter souls on this forum.
Bitter soul ?
You don't really understand....how can you slept in three different hotels just to see or talk to your girlfriend....ordinary girlfriend....this op is not normal.
Even if you're pursuing a billion dollars contract.....you would apply sense and portray yourself as a person of value.
sirjamesjnr: Yes, She won't have time for me. She doesn't have time for herself either . But trust me she always takes out her precious nap and food time, just to talk to me .
I visit her workplace she wouldn't have time to say hi also I have to sleep three nights in different hotels to be able to see her. I got angry one day and ask her, how will she take care of my kids when we marry.
When she is with me, I never want that moment to end. Our romantic life has had to suffer a lot of time because of duty calls. I have to get myself busier so I don't get emotional. she is honest and blunt, doesn’t beat around the bush. Sometimes I have to win her with a strong argument and points.
She is independent and can make life-death decisions, so I don’t feel bad if she doesn’t consult me and make some decisions highhandedly. I trust her, she good decision-maker the majority of times. For us, It’s accountability and responsibility that counts. I won't settle for less and she won't either. No room for excuses or self-pity.
She has to be nice to her patients and fellow male colleagues. I don’t mistake this for flirting. Her male colleagues are there with her than I am, so I am more comfortable and carefree because I trusted her. we do know our boundaries. Most of the time she will be discussing how much she misses me with them. I have the self-confidence that helps me though sometimes I get a bit jealous.
She is Superwoman without the cap all the time. So I have to decide whether to expect even more from her or be Super Man myself and share her burden a bit more.. understand her a bit more..love her a bit more.
As a doctor, she is extremely sensitive but also blunt. She knows when I need a hug and when an earful. Most of the time, she sees me as a case, desperately trying to diagnose my actions, detect my mood, I have to explain every action, etc.
She is great, very polite, courteous, intelligent, and fun and I love her effortlessly. The hard part is living with the job, the workload, the schedule, she never off duty, even when she is off duty, no time for long conversations. I already know I am committed to her and I must be committed to her job too. I need to be supportive of her, emotionally mature and have a life of my own. It has been a long ride but our relationship is thrilling. Will I choose another if given an opportunity? Only if I stop been me.
Learn from me, if you can't compromise in some area never date a high valued woman. With slay mamas wannabe, You have no issue, all you need is your time and money and you are the boss.
You know nothing.........until then
Mind you I broke up with a doctor due to this nonsense you're coping with........because the idea of us was not working......and eventually married my wife in the same profession but far more sensible.
Because she stylishly wouldn't sign the prenup agreement; he walked out on her on the alter........even the pastor tried talked him into going ahead with the marriage..........
Then she agreed to sign with tears in her eyes at the hotel but he understand the game and stood his ground.......the marriage was over just before the wedding.
I almost stopped at bullying to submission but there could be sense in nonsense so I hold my peace to the end just so I could tell you what you misrepresented.
Parenting method is like chosen a wife......you can't verify the outcome of your choice approach in training your kids until years later......
bizme: Many times the fact that your children comply with your expectations after flogging doesn't mean you have achieved the goal of parenting. Many times it means we have bullied them into submission. Just like many kids would obey a bully in school, not out of reference or understanding, but out of primal fear.
Have you wondered why many children from strict upbringing mess up big time the first time they get to higher institution where no parents are to police them with flogging?
Children are children. They have an independent mind, and it is okay to cultivate communicating with them and even seek other options for exerting discipline like denying them of something they so much desire. Being children, there are many forms this could take.
If we are being objective, most of the flogging of children taking place around involve a scary dose of undisciplined temper on the part of the parent/teacher. Together with so much verbal abuses from them. The same with teachers in school: you explain something to your pupils which they don't understand. Rather than seek ways to communicate effectively, you start caning them blue black as though the process of caning would magically impart understanding.
I am not sure many people had the kind of flogging I had growing up, both at home and in school. It was almost literally a daily phenomenon. All of them out of anger. Yes, I have turned out marvelously well, but that's more in spite of those floggings rather than because of them. I plainly became immune to the beating, and very adept at hiding my terrible deeds. Last year when I told my mum some of those things I had been involved with as a teenager and living away from home, she almost held her head out of fear thanking God that I had survived them. Unfortunately, both of them have destroyed any semblance of friendship that should have existed between us as parents and children.
Our parents should learn to communicate with mouth rather than sticks.
Nonsense. How can you equate correctional spanking to bully and still add submission to it ?
No single thing /approach on earth that does not have it advantages and disadvantages. Beat and talk as and when necessary.
Have you ever wonder how some grown up ass ended up with empty brain, no discipline, no knowledge of anything worth emulating, no moral, no values.....they follows anything sheepishly.
How many spoilt brats that ended up wasting every resources invested on them.....let me stop here....
I think its unwise to compare and contrast on issue like this.........because there seem to be some influences beyond our grasp that direct each and every individual paths in life....flogging or not.
Some folks without parent figure sometimes ended up better that those that were train; some with iron hands and other with soft hand.....but all in all I apply talks and beating as and when necessary.
African, especially Nigerians are becoming brain dead by the day....many people nowadays subject everything to how they feel about it without any factual reason.....and I think to a large extent sadly, contribute to our Summersaulting policies that has and will not move us forward in any particular progressing direction.....we tend to lose focus on the purpose of things...
Same way females has started engaging in some fruitless arguments in favour of abolishing house chores; feeling it is enslaving their gender but then recommending it for males that is overwhelmed with more tasking, technical and risky house chores.......