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Nbotee:
In a much as I'm not a fan of some of the activities of IPOB and it's overzealous members, dis story jus doesnt add up..

The story makes no sense at all

In 2017, the federal government proscribed IPOB and declared it a terrorist group. The USA, the EU, Ohanaeze Ndigbo and the international community all denounced and disagreed with the labelling of IPOB as a terrorist group. This left the federal government looking rather foolish. Minister for information, Lai Mohammed,
travelled to London where he was interviewed by the BBC and reiterated that IPOB was a terrorist group. The person who interviewed him told him that there was no such thing as an unarmed terrorist group. Lai Mohammed then travelled to Washington D.C where he wrote an embarrassing article in the Washington Post Newspaper. He was trying tell America that IPOB is a terrorist group based on words and utterances of IPOB. He was rebuffed and IPOB leader, Nnamdi Kanu, has become a regular visitor to Washington, even standing a few meters from President Trump at Trump rallies.

Ever since, the authorities have tried to paint IPOB as an armed violent group so as to justify its proscription. Unfortunately for the authorities, their lies simply makes no sense, even to a child in primary school.

1) The authorities keep saying that IPOB are armed, but how come it is only the authorities that have seen IPOB armed? We have all seen Boko haram armed, we have all seen pictures of Niger Delta militants armed, we have all seen armed herdsmen with their AK47. Why is it that it is only the authorities that have seen armed IPOB? Is that the general public becomes blind when it comes to IPOB?

2) Why is is that every time IPOB is accused of violence, it is a clash with the authorities? Boko does not wait until they clash with the authorities before the unleash violence, killer herdsmen do not wait until they meet the authorities to unleash violence. Which terrorist organisation only waits until they clash with the authorities before they become violent? If anything, terror groups usually strike when the authorities are not there.

3)You will always see the bodies of the IPOB members killed but you will never see the bodies of those the authorities claim IPOB killed. I remember in 2018 when the Nigerian Police circulated pictures of a Police man they claimed IPOB killed and left for dead in a gutter, only for pictures of the same Policeman to surface online of him walking away. The authorities will claim that IPOB killed their members but you will not see any body and hardly will you get a name. And even if you get a name and body, the person will be quickly buried without autopsy to ascertain cause of death

4) The story the authorities weave around IPOB/security forces clash is usually fantastic. It usually starts off that the authorities were going about their lawful activities, usually on patrol, when IPOB will suddenly attacked them with no provocation. The Nigerian Army even claimed in 2017 that IPOB blocked the road and attacked them with sticks and stones(how anyone can believe that civilians with just sticks and stone would attack heavily armed Soldiers is beyond me). How would IPOB know where and when the authorities are on patrol? What could IPOB possibly gain by attacking the authorities? It would make far more sense for IPOB to go about killing people and destroying Federal government structures like other terror groups do. Why would they be going after those on patrol to exchange bullets when there are easy soft targets out there?

5) Yesterday's bloodbath in Emene Enugu was avoidable, and it is clear from the Police and DSS statements that both agencies are lying against IPOB. What they claim is that armed IPOB, numbering over 500, gathered at a school in Emene on a Sunday morning to learn martial arts. The DSS went there to disperse them and this led to an altercation that involved calling for reinforcements and a gun battle that left people dead on either side. This is big lie for anyone who knows Emene. The area is close to the outskirts of Enugu and is densely populated. If armed IPOB wanted to learn martial arts, there are several forest and bushes a few miles from Emene where they could have easily gone to for that away from the eyes of the public and the authorities and much better protection. But what the authorities want gullible people to believe is that IPOB took guns and arms to a school, in a densely populated area on a Sunday morning when everyone would be at home? How is that possible? Why would any armed organisation expose its self in such manner? It makes no sense

All of these are lies. Unsrmed peaceful IPOB was having a meeting in the school, the authorities arrived and opened fire in their usual callous way. We all know thats what happened

Golan007:
Hand to hand combat is still undertaken in the military despite the fact they would always be issued firearms.

After 9/11 there were videos of Al Qaeda members training in martial arts despite also have firearms.

Of course, but IPOB is not the military. Is it really practical that someone who is already armed would go to a School, in a densely populated area like Emene, on a Sunday morning, to go and learn martial arts? That is ridiculous

If IPOB wanted to learn martial arts, there are many bushes and forest on the outskirts of Enugu they could do that, away from eyes of the public and the authorities and with many escape routes for safety

What kind of group would take guns to densely populated area to learn martial arts on a Sunday that everyone is at home? Makes no sense whatsoever

Does this statement make any sense? What the authorities want stupid people to believe is that over 500 IPOB were having a meeting in a school where they are to be trained in martial arts? Lol? Why would anyone be training in martial arts if they are already armed?

Then you claim that armed IPOB abducted a DSS personnel then you arrived to engage in a shoot out with them and rescued the DSS personnel? If this was the speed at which Nigerian Police react, there would be no killer herdsmen in Nigeria

Meanwhile, before you arrived at the scene, IPOB had killed two people for no reason but didnt kill the DSS person you rescued?

The lies by the Police and DSS are just too much

AniOmaa:
From a credible source (a live witness account actually), reports I got from the clash was that the ipob members were conducting some sort of combat drill/training for their new members, when the a joint patrol team of Nigerian police/army units acting on a tip off invaded the venue of the ipob training camp to forcefully disperse them... of course the ipob boys resisted them and fought back, and in the process overpowered the security forces... I can't attest if they actually killed the 2 Nigerian security officers during the chaos... but the ipob members definitely commenced a solidarity march and ended up sacking a police station after initially gaining the upper hand over the Nigerian security units, the Naija police called for reinforcements and army units arrived with weapons of war and started shooting at the ipob members... three civilians (hard to determine if they were even ipob members) were caught in the melee of stray bullets and killed, several others injured.

So on a Sunday morning when everyone is at home, in a densely populated area like Emene, is when and where IPOB decided to conduct a combat drill? All the bushes and forests in outskirts of Enugu they could do that in secret and safely, it is a densely populated area they chose to do that, on a Sunday that people are at home?

Does this make any sense to you?

donttouchme:
Dss is clearly lying. How can an unarmed ipob kill heavily armed dss. Afunanya continue your lies. God will judge you.

This is the first time Im learning that DSS goes on patrol

Has anyone ever noticed that whenever there clash between IPOB and the authorities, the narrative of they authorities is "we were going on patrol when we were attacked by IPOB"

Every time, the same story. This is what they said in 2017 when the Army declared IPOB a terrorist organisation. They said that they were on lawful patrol when IPOB descended on them. The same narrative was used by the Police last year when there was a clash with IPOB law9, Ifeanyi Ejiofor. Now the DSS have come up with a similar story.

But one has only to think of this narrative for 5 minutes to see that it is the authorities that are lying. IPOB is not a group known to bare arms and there is very little record of them being violent. But what the authorities want people to believe is that when they are on patrol, IPOB will attack them? How would IPOB know they are on patrol and where to wait for them? What could IPOB possibly gain by attacking the security forces?

If IPOB actually wanted to take up arms and fight Nigeria in the name of Biafra, why would they only be attacking the authorities when they are on patrol? Does that make any sense? Why would IPOB only be attacking when yhe authorities are armed, on patrol and alert? Wouldn't it make more sense for IPOB to attack when the authorities are not alert just like Boko haram does? Which terrorist group in the world only waits until the authorities go on patrol before they attack?

Everybody knows the truth. IPOB is an unarmed group and the authorities are simply killing them for that reason. The DSS wabts us to believe that they were 9n patrol on a Sunday morning in Emene Enugu? Since when did the DSS start going patrol like Police? Patrol of what?

This is how the Army claimed in 2017 that they were on patrol and IPOB blocked the road and attacked them with sticks and stones. Which civilian would see a platoon of Soldiers moving guns and tanks then decide to block their way and attack them with sticks? Not even someone high on drugs would do that.

They are just killing unarmed people and using stupid cover stories to hide it

Rossikk:
Can someone please answer this simple question?

IPOB were silent during the Jonathan administration.

Not a whimper from them despite the presence then of Fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram, and other excuses they give for their militancy - poverty, corruption, recession, marginalisation, etc etc.

Are IPOB saying they have no secessionist agenda insofar as a southerner is president, and that their secessionist protests are activated only when a northerner is president of Nigeria?

And if that is the case, aren't they in fact a terrorist organization engaged in fascist ethnic hatred, and requiring total annihilation by the federal govt?

If a southern president is elected in 2023 and IPOB stops their secessionist agitation, it will only confirm the description I gave of them above - a fascist terrorist organization peddling ethnic bigotry and hate, and requiring total elimination.

You cannot be a ''freedom fighting organization'' that alters its agenda based on the ethnicity of the nation's president. THAT'S EVIL and FASCIST.

When Jonathan was in power, Nnamdi Kanu was still building IPOB up, but that is not to say that there was no protest against Jonathan. MASSOB was the main Biafran movement at the time and MASSOB have been protesting way back to even Obasanjos tenure. So it is wrong to say there was no protest during Jonathans time

obowo69:
Good to know some people are still reasoning well. As I have stated many times on this thread, I dont wish for the terrorism path to be the case but IPOB is being pushed in that direction and things may snap eventually.

Boko haram started of as an unarmed group led by Yusuf Mohamed. Then the security forces invaded his enclave, killed many of his members, captured him alive, and publicly executed him. What happend after?

Shekau took over and the surviving members took up arms. Nigeria has been fighting them for almost 10 years at the cost of billions of Naira, over 200,000 people dead and millions in IDP camps

But Nigeria learnt nothing

Igboid:
How can IPOB be crying for Igbo leadership to speak up for them, when they have the power to decide Igbo leadership.
He who pays the piper determines the tone.

We have long advised IPOB that total control of political representation of SE in Igboland from councilor to governor is essential in this struggle.
But Kanu sensing that that would be a tough task chickened out and told them that Nigerian politics is not to be ventured into by Biafrans.

Is it not common sense to first secure total political control of your home turf before venturing out to fight outside?
When NK was in prison, he needed Igbo political elite in Abaribe to bail him out as his guarantor, yet he continues to deceive his followers that control of Nigerian politics in SE is not important for the Biafrans struggle.

The pro Catalonia group hold the majority of political representation seat of Catalonia in Spanish government. They hijacked power in Spain from pro Spanish unity Catalonian leaders by getting involved in local politics and planting their own loyal persons in government.

IPOB wants to have Ohanaeze Ndiigbo dance to their tune, yet they fail to see that Ohaneze Ndiigbo is controlled by five SE governors who control them because they are their main source of finance , and that the SE governors are controlled by Nigerian government and are anti Biafra.


IPOB strategy is fundamentally flawed from its very foundation to the top, but they are impervious to advice. They are the proverbial "Eze onye agwanam" who defecated on his clothing and went about town with it, because nobody would point it out to him, since he is "Eze onye agwana m".

IPOB is becoming a liability to Ndiigbo. And it's a pity because we all had high hopes of them when they started, we thought they had a logical sequence of plans. But obviously, that's not the case.

IPOB crying over Igbo leadership not speaking up against their ordeal at the hands of murderous is pathetic and exposes how vacuous they are. It's really very embarrassing as well as disappointing what IPOB has evolved into.

Let me put this in lay mans terms, hopefully you will understand. Nigeria is not yet political mature for what you are asking IPOB to do. As bad as Nigerian politics is, where the high and mighty use incumbency, power, money, intimidation, fear and even terrorism to win elections, what level playing ground has IPOB got?

But lets just assume that IPOB managed to use whatever support they have to navigate the explosive minefield called Nigerian politics, and win most of the elective positions in the areas they want to break away from Nigeria, mainly the South East, then what?

Those elected IPOB sponsored winners will have to swear an oath of allegiance to preserve the unity of Nigeria, the very thing IPOB is against, before they can assume office.

Not only that, after assuming office, if any of them starts talking about Biafra or seperation, after they have sworn allegiance to Nigeria, they can be easily removed. Just the fact that a Governor opens his mouth to support Biafra is enough grounds for the President of Nigeria to use "secession" as an excuse to declare state of emergency in that Governors state, remove him, and replace him with a "one Nigerianist".

The same goes for the rest of those who are elected but sympathise with Biafra, they will all be removed for violating the oath they took to preserve the unity of Nigeria.

The only thing IPOB can do is to keep agitating for a peaceful exit from Nigeria, through a referendum, and show both Nigeria and the international community that they have support. The referendum may not be achieved any time soon, it may not be achieved for many years to come, but the alternative is that Igbos remain part of a failed country that is ever becoming a haven for violent fundamentalists such as Boko haram and killer herdsmen who will decimate the future generation.

Without IPOB, there is simply nothing on the ground but eternal slavery to the powers that be, and those powers are determined to be forever.

obowo69:
Those who are student of history should save this thread for posterity.

Mark my words, with the way things are going, some IPOB members will soon rebel against Nnamdi Kanu's method and finally pick up arms. They will start terrorizing the coward police and army. Thats when all of a sudden, the Nnamdi kanu everyone hates so much becomes an alternative for negotiation.

Dont say I didn't warn you Nigeria.

The only reason America was forced to listen to Martin Luther King's non-violence was because of Malcom X.

Those who are wise should advise Nigerian government because they will create a monster that they can't contain.

I have to agree with you. So far, Nnamdi Kanu has not asked IPOB to take up arms and he leads an unarmed group. But for a long time, IPOB has had to endure hundreds of its its members being murdered by the Nigerian security forces, just because they are unarmed. Amnesty International report on the hundreds of unarmed IPOB members that have been killed by the Nigerian Army is online for all to read.

How long will unarmed people be killed before they take up arms to defend themselves? Usually not too long. The popular saying goes:

" Those who make peaceful agitation impossible, make violent agitation inevitable"

helinues:
Ipobs are currently one of the proscribed group, any gathering from their members is an illegal one..

You guys will sit behind your keyboard just like Kanu and be inciting people to do what you dare not participate in ... That's wickedness

Yes IPOB is proscribed, but if they do garther, peacefully, is that enough for the security forces to open fire on unarmed people? Is it not the job of the security forces to keep the peace? What kind of peace are the security forces keeping if they arrive at a venue, where there is no violence, to start shooting unarmed people?

In a sane country, even if a group is proscribed, the security forces will only use maximum force as last resort.

How can anyone justify the shooting of unarmed people with live ammunition when other things like tear gas, rubber bullets or even shooting up in the air, to disperse them? Does it mean that life means nothing? Did the security forces even consider what stray bullets could do?

Had killer herdsmen attacked Emene, where this incident happened, would the security forces have arrived with the sane speed to open fire? No, not one killer herdsmen has ever been killed.

Shooting and killing unarmed people in a democracy by armed forces that are paid to protect life

sonnie10:
Both parties have the same strategy. They are both rushing to be the first to dish out their own account of the incident to the public. In the other news, IPOB said that two of their members were killed.
Who do we even believe? Anyway, it is not who goes to court first that always win a case.

You can believe pictures because nobody lays in a pool of their own blood for nothing

Many Nigerians are evil minded. They see their security forces killing unarmed people in a democracy and they keep quiet. How can any sane person support the shooting of unarmed people? Some Nigerians see that injustice and look the other way, some even support it. They do not know that the injustice you support today, could be the injustice that will be visited on you tomorrow

Does anyone believe that the DSS was on a "patrol" on a Sunday morning?

Godons1:
Who told you they are unarmed?

BELOW IS A SCREENSHOT OF AN EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT, WHY WAS AT THE SÇENE BEFORE THE WHOLE THING STARTED.

IPOB Terrorist are always armed.

You have a brain dont you? You actually believe that IPOB went to a church and advised people to leave because they want to exchange fire with Soldiers? A group that is not known bare arms or kill people, went with arms to an area where Nigerian Soldiers will be coming and informed people to leave because they were going to fight Soldiers?

What sort of armed group would be telling people that they will fight Nigerian Soldiers knowing fully well that any of the people can call the Army to tell them of IPOB plans?

Theres some stories you will hear and you wonder if Nigerians have brains. IPOB was armed and wanted to fight Nigerian Soldiers but informed people in a Church, any of which could have picked up his phone and informed 82 division, which is not that far from Emene where it all happened, of IPOB's plans?

Lol

loneprof:
The picture uploaded says that a policeman was killed... So what do you want me to believe. Go and check again Mr. Man.

You actually believe that armed Policemen went somewhere and unarmed people killed one of them? An unarmed organisation that is not known for killing people grabbed an armed Policeman and killed him in front of his armed colleagues?Does that make any sense? The picture of those that were killed, does it look like Policemen?

I dont know what kind of country Nigeria is where the security forces go to a place where unsrmed people are having meeting and start killing people

loneprof:
They also killed a policeman, did you read that?

It's obvious you guys don't want to say the truth... Jobless Ipob youths should find something meaningful to do than to keep promoting bloodshed in the name of igbo nationalism. This is pure madness.

Did you see the body of any policeman or do you believe anything you read?

sammysneh:
Its a pity when young men waste there life because of Biafra wen there leader are out of the country with his family...

But it is your security forces who are out killing unarmed people like Boko haram and you are calling Kanu.

muykem:
check your dictionary for the meaning of terrorists and stopping define it in your own view.

Yeah, even America that said IPOB is not a terrorist group. You think that America didnt look at the dictionary? Or may be it is only the Nigerian government that knows what a terrorist group is.

Admissionclass:
This is becoming something else where are our leaders?can such be done to the fulani or any other northerners Can an Igbo police officer go to the North and kill an innocent fulani man without their leaders interfering?
I have never heard of police killing herdsmen or bandits,bokoharam members are reintegrate back into the society after killing so many people isn't it so obvious that Nigeria is no longer safe for Igbos is it until it turns a full scale ethnic war?where is ohaneze Ndiigbo, where are our lawmakers and representatives?

Bokoharam and bandits can be brought to the round table but ipob are devils right.


Is just a matter of time Gods judgement will visit Nigeria soon..

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The only Igbo leader there ever was, was Ojukwu. The rest of these charlatans who parade themselves as leaders are just there for there pockets.

Unarmed people are being shot and killed while they look the other way

QuotaSystem:
They are already doing that to all terrorists, killer herdsmen, Boko Haram and stick wielding IPOB alike.

A terrorist organisation that carries sticks? If a group is carrying sticks, it is no terrorist organisation. No terrorist organisation carries stick, they carry guns

helinues:
I really don't get it,how can someone sit behind his computer and be endagering same people he claimed of fighting for..

How can you face security officers that are armed with teeth against sticks? Which kind of redundant bravery is that?

IPOB as a group is currently proscribed by FG as a terrorist group ( Nonsense from FG to start with)

It is on record that the Nigeria security officers are animal in human skin, so why continue daring them?

Abeg we are tired of typing RIP

But it is your security forces that are the ones shooting and killing unarmed people. Is it it the duty of your security forces to just go about killing unarmed people? We have have several groups in Nigeria that are armed and killing people such as Boko haram, killer herdsmen, ISWAP and Niger Delta militants.

But you security forces are busy shooting and killing people who only have sticks. Which civilised country shoots its own citizens for holding sticks? Terrible

QuotaSystem:
When will the SE intelligentsia intervene to save these misguided youths? Sad.

May their souls rest in peace.

When will your security forces turn their guns on armed groups like killer herdsmen and boko haram rather than unarmed IPOB?

All the killer herdsmen out there, all the Boko haram out there killing people, all the armed bandits out there murdering people. But the security agents are far more interested in attacking unarmed people having a meeting

What a disgrace

muykem:
They are created to kill terrorists which IPOB is one of them.

They were created to kill terrorists? Which terrorist group do you know in the whole world that are unarmed? What will such a group be using to terrorise people? Even America and the international community have told 5ye clueless Nigerian government that IPOB is not a terrorist group.

Nigerians can be truly stupid. The whole world knows that the minimum requirement for a group to be even begin to be considered a terrorist organisation is they must be armed. Only a very clueless government will take an unarmed group to be terrorists.

The worst is that killer herdsmen who are armed and killing thousands of Nigerians every year are not considered terrorists, not one of them has ever been killed. But if unarmed IPOB members go somewhere to worship god, all the security forces will land there to open fire

What a disgrace

Officialgarri:
Says a coward hiding away under his bed in London.
All the time Buhari and his men have been coming to London, when has Kanu ever personally stepped out to counter him?
Mamman Daura is currently in London, where's Kanu?

I hope the idiot can at least tell his minions the truth that the government he's trying to bring down were the same ones through the late Abba Kyari, Uguanyi of Enugu and Umahi of Ebonyi, that sneaked him out of the country.
That is the reason why these states don't tolerate IPOB activities because of the agreement they had.

The true test of a leader is to lead right in front. The border will be open soon. Kanu should come back and lead his fight.
Stop sacrificing the lives of shallow minded jobless people for your own selfish gains

But it is your Police doing the killing? Was the Nigerian Police created to go about killing unarmed people?

The Police just went to where people were worshipping their God and opened fire on innocent people

Every time the security forces are involved in IPOB matter, there must be violence, shooting and killings. When the security forces are not there, everything will be violence free

All the security forces know is to cause violence and kill unarmed people

Thats all the security forces of Nigeria are good at, the shooting and killing of unarmed people