₦airaland Forum

Jackpat:
Do you know that:

During the Nigeria/Biafra war in which over 3million Igbos were killed, nobody died from Ojukwu's family?

You may have to check again because Ojukwus own brother, Tom Bigger, died in the early stages of the war

And are you aware that Ojukwu reunited with Gowon to enjoy national cake together fourty years after?

So? The war was over, why wont they unite? When Ojukwu was fighting for Biafra, he was public enemy no 1. When he now returned and accepted 'one Nigeria', he is still public enemy. Haba!

Are you even aware that at this moment no Nnamdi KANU's family is likely to join you in the war if it eventually starts.

Are you some kind of soothsayer who sees the future? Are you aware that Kanus parents have led IPOB protests in Portugal? Are you aware that Kanus wife has led IPOB protests in London and in Germany? Are you aware that Kanu's own Mother and sisters have led IPOB protests in the East?

Now the question is are you this stupid and dumb, to start this war while this pple are ready to flee their families out the country.

Only you Nigerians are talking about war. Kanu and IPOB are talking about peaceful referendum.

Dear blind supporters of the agitation please try get sense of reason with your head not with your anus okay.

Instead of trying to divide Nigeria, why not let's join hands and fight the Government,
Remember all states in Nigeria receives Allocation Fee
A certain amount that is been giving to your Governor to develop your state.
Fight your Governor, Let him give account of how he spent the money.

Remember if war should hit now, our mothers will be raped,
Our Sisters will be molested
We will lose our babies , and lose our loved ones.

Say No to War .
Thanks

To be a Nigerian is not by force. We were all forced together by the British and not by mutual consent. If their are people who feel they can do better outside Nigeria, those people should be allowed to exit while the rest of you carry on with Nigeria

fratermathy:
If you think Kanu's approach has or will do anything, then continue believing so. But don't ever make the mistake of thinking realistic SSners are not doing something! Just because they don't go about shouting afonja and Hausa, doesn't mean negotiations are not being made and our future is not being discussed.
Not everyone will take a suicidal path to actualize their dreams. In war, alliance is the key, not noise making and chest beating.

Get real. The North will never allow any sort of restructuring in Nigeria. Not now, not ever. If anyone thinks that the North will agree to restructuring, which will take away their political and economic control of Nigeria, that person needs to have his head examined.

The truth is that everyone and every ethnic group in the South of Nigeria will at some point have to face the same choice Ojukwu faced 50 years ago, accept "Northern controlled Nigeria" or fight for your sovereignty. Anyone thinking there are other choices out there are mistaken.

People like Kanu have already made their choice.

The write up is laughable as who ever wrote it. How can freedom, self determination and self rule be misrepresented as a lie? These are basic fundamental rights of any human being or people. I dont expect everybody to like Kanu or IPOB's approach, however, I do expect people to understand the right of self determination. It should be the right of the constituent people that the British forced into a colonial contraption they called 'Nigeria' to decide for themselves if they want to continue with that union or opt out.

Britain created Nigeria. Britain willing joined the EU, but they opted out last year

Scotland been part of Britain for over 300 years, but they got a referendum in 2014 to choose to continue or to opt out.

Yet, the ethnic nationalities who never gave their consent to the creation of Nigeria are being told that they have no right to opt out if they so wish?

Kanu is a messenger. Focusing on the messenger and not the message its self is very foolish.

Biafra is not a lie, it is my right. It is my right to decide if I want to be Nigerian or not, Kanu or no Kanu does not take that right away from me.

fratermathy:
Instead of Kanu to be realistic and address issues, he still spews hate rhetoric against the Hausa and Yoruba, forceful language on the composition of Biafra, and idealistic images of Biafra as if it won't be peopled with the Igbos in Nigeria today.

To be honest, Kanu's approach is much better than that of people like you who think that the destiny of the southern minorities is to perpetualy remain in Nigeria and beg the North for restructuring/resource control.

dyydxx:
Well if you are waiting for the peaceful dissolution of Nigeria you are waiting for a non event. If you truly want Biafra prepare and Win an Independence War. Any other method would be frustrated and won't see the light of day. If and whenever Biafra prevails in the War, they would have earned the right to have their own country. Any other thing is just wasting time. The federal Government would never yield to these terrorists disturbing the peace. Sooner or later they would have to put up or shut up.

Let me tell you something which you may not know. No country ever survives two civil wars. Should there be a second Biafran war, regardless who wins or loses, it will be the end of Nigeria. Unlike Nigeria that thinks that war is the answer to everything, IPOB has chosen to explore peaceful alternatives to achieving Biafra such as election boycott.

Ultimately, there is a limit to how long anyone can be held against their will before they fight for their freedom

It is what it is. There is no going on Biafra. We want to get out of the zoological Republic of Lord Lugard. I support election boycott in Anambra

Lol

Referendum or nothing! The zoological Republic of Lord Lugard must come to an end!

And from its demise, Biafra shall rise!

Aufbauh:
The savage just told you guys the ignorant fantasias the bitter truth. Nothing but the truth.
The NASS which should have facilitate the legality of secession is not interested. Any other means call for a forceful and violent separation by the barrel of gun.

This is why the agitation for now is a fantasy and a fallacy.

I dont think people you realise that indirectly, the North just called us all "prisoners"

Fix what? How can you fix something that has never worked? They should give us referendum so we can leave this unholy union

There is an Igbo saying that goes "Aka ekpuchi onwa" (The hand can never cover the Sun)

The truth can be buried but it can never be hidden for long. For a long time, our people have been at the recieving end of the excesses of the North. No more!

Look at factsand figures that have been used by the OP to destroy the Northern feudalists.

This union of Nigeria is as fraudulent as a bounced cheque

Where did we got it wrong? I'm a northerner but am currently listening to phyno's fada-fada song even though I don't even understand ibo language. What is wrong with us as a people? Why can't we give peace a chance and learn to live in it's harmony.

Back then in school, my best friend was Emeka, we virtually do everything together. I could vividly remember how we were running with a pot of soup for about 1mile, a soup we took from our lodge-mates.

Nigerians should shun hate and tribalism for pete's sake. It doesn't help anyone but rather it brings you down

People like you dont want to face reality. That Lord Lugard brought us together was never a guarantee that we would all get along. Nigeria is but the artificial creation of the white man and the time has come for us to stop living this age old lie called 'one Nigeria'

We are not one and never was.

Pcharles2:
My brother, unfortunately this is a war that nobody wants to fight. The question is, fight for what and for who? Knowing the kind of leaders we have, I don't think anybody is ready to lay down his/her life for this country called Nigeria.

Nna, I dont understand this contant talk of war. Nnamdi Kanu is talking about referendum, people are shouting war. Why?

Is it that "what Lord Lugard put together, only war can put assunder?"

Lugard wasnt even African, why must we fight and kill each other for his legacy?

samdigo90:
OIL and Global implications

Nigeria’s economy depends almost entirely on oil from Niger Delta states. The west and the north’s interest are deeply embedded in the “south south.” The idea of a peaceful dissolution of Nigeria is thus impossible. The financial interests of the power that be are too grave. As long as there is oil, There can be no peaceful dissolution of Nigeria.. Western powers will also be reluctant in supporting Biafra, because a Biafra that includes the oil producing regions will have ripple effects on the global oil market. The actualization of Biafra will also destabilize Africa. A dissolution of Africa most populous country will send shock waves across Africa as other indigenous people will also fight for secession in their various amalgamations. Western powers stand to lose in a destabilized Africa. It is in the interest of America (and the west) to keep Nigeria one for the sake of global market stability.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ4PFiIYAaM


Kanu should run for office

Kanu is the undisputed leader of the Igbos and Biafrans. Kanu can easily become governor of a state and can also influence the elections of other eastern states. With Kanu, and his people in power, he can drastically improve the quality of life for his people, and provide the roads, schools and power that the current system failed to provide. The no election in Biafra land policy only makes it easy for the powers that be to be re-elected and continue the status quo. The no election policy simply means that the elite only need a handful of votes to retain their hold on the masses.
Biafra as a completely independent entity will be costly, and the “zoo” will not allow it to go in peace. A semi-autonomous state within a state seems more viable without bloodshed. Kanu can change Biafra land as a legitimate elected official. Federal government allocations embezzled by the likes of Okorocha, Amaechi, Obiano etc will finally be entrusted to Kanu and his people. This way we avoid war, and Kanu can have political control of Biafra land.

Are you not ashamed of your self to pen this write up? So the unity of Nigeria is all about oil and gas wealth? Well, its not like all Nigerians didnt know this, it is just that hypocrisy rules Nigeria.

Kanu is seeking something that is higher than political office. He is seeking freedom and emancipation.

Only a fool will say that his freedom is costly

hypernikao:
Been on Nairaland for a while now and to be honest, the hate amidst the youth here is disappointing. We are suppose to be at the helm of the affairs in this country, but we are here hating on eachother, we should be ashamed of ourselves. If we channel the strength we use in searching for names when any news on crime comes up to fighting for eachother, we would be better. This is why the old people at the helm of Nigerian politics since independence are still thriving till today because we as youths have refused to take our stand in the affairs of the country instead, we fight against eachother and the old politicians attend eachother's events. This is what they want, they want us to fight eachother and as long as we fight, they would have the tools and time to perpetrate their selfish acts and remain at the top as long as the youths are looking for the right things at the wrong places. This is not the way forward... Instead of hating online, I suggest that we use our internet presence for something positive for the youths and the future of our country... Something that will reiterate our presence in this country as a force that must be reckoned with.

The only disappointment in your write up is that you are yet to realise that Nigeria is not a nation but a colonial contraption.

oladeebo:
Great your royal highest Nigeria will be great and here is a tangible proposition t stop suspicious in our nation:
we adopt the world standard Zoning and left behind the imaginary line of 1914 of Northern and Southern Nigeria for Western and Eastern Nigeria!
look at this map:

The imaginary line of 1914? Was that before or after Lugards girlfriend named you and your ancestors after a common River?

How much education did your fore-fathers have before Lord Lugard made them Nigerians?

Jaideyone:
point of correction. I'm not afraid. even if the country divides today Yorubas will go our own way. we won't only survive. we will thrive!!!


BTW I don't give a fvck if you get Biafra or not. just stop insulting us while at it. we Yorubas don't currently have the power to grant your wish. so we are not the ones holding you back. I hope u understand my point?

You Yorubas are going where? Dont make me laugh. The destiny of you Yorubas is to do 'one Nigeria' with the Northerners long after Igbos leave Nigeria.

Freedom is only for those who have the heart to fight for it, not those who are only good at talking.

thesicilian:
Ojukwu tried and failed. Fifty years later another man Nnamdi Kanu tried and failed. Till 2067 again.

So if your father tried to make money and failed, when you become of age, you wont try to make money because he failed?

He faulted the sit-at-home order issued by Indigenous People Of Biafra (IPOB), saying the order also contravened the law.

Ekpoudom said IPOB had no constitutional authority to order a section of the country to sit at home without the consent of the Federal Government, adding that “It amounts to running a parallel government.”

Complete arrant nonsense. It amazes me when people who have held high office make statements like these that exposes them as one who has the intellectual capacity of a 5 year old.

People willingly heeded the IPOB call to stay at home, now it is illegal? Where it would have been illegal is if IPOB had prevented people from going out. This man should go and rest.


Only Nigerians talk about war. It is one of their scare tactics to intimidate the people out of their right to self determination.

JANK23H:
Going through this thread i have come to a conclusion that the Igbos are the most arrogant,ignorant,undiplomatic and foolish tribe to walk the surface of the earth.

Porthacourt is Igweocha and Bonny...Igwenga?

The pogrom of 1967-1970 will be child's play when una madness ripe.This time, you lot will realize that the battle will be between the SS and Igbo and not with the North as you think.

Such stupidity!Never seen any people this arrogant.

We are waiting...

Instead of you talking like a fool, why dont you do a little reaserch to find out what the original names of the place before the white man came? How do you think these places got English names like Portharcourt or Bonny?

What is the meaning of South South? Another English name? Where is North North?

Kanu:- "Self determination is an inalinable right". "I want freedom for me and my people". "I want a peaceful Referendum to allow my people decide their future". "We shall deploy all legal routes available such as civil disobedience, peaceful protest, election boycott and superior argument to get Biafra"


Nigerian:- "Biafra means war!". "What Lord Lugard put together, no man should put assunder". "If you try to secede, we will kill you and starve your children like we did last time"."Being named after a River by Lugards wife is the best thing to ever happen to us". "We are indivisible, Yoruba/Hausa/Igbo absolutely love each other!". "Mentioning Biafra makes you a terrorist like Shekau!". "We must all die as Nigerians!".







The mentality of the average Nigerian is laughable. Lol

genearts:
Will you bow to kanu??

Only if he is praying at the time.

Some Yorubas are laughable. They bow to any elder. A few people bow to Kanu and they take it that the entire Igbo nation has adopted bowing as a way of life. I suspect that what actually makes them angry is the respect that Kanu is getting. They thought that after flashing pictures of Kanu in handcuffs, Kanu would have no face to show upon release. They did not know that those pictures did the opposite, and elevated Kanu to position of an authentic freedom fighter. There were many Igbos who were not sure of Kanu until he was arrested, detained, denied bail, brought out in handcuffs and ridiculed. Then those Igbos asked themselves why such a man would leave the comfort of his London base to willingly come back to Nigeria to suffer all this if he wasnt authentic. Kanu proved them wrong, and hopefully, by the time this all over, I will be applying for my Biafran passport.

genearts:
I thought igbos are egalitarian in nature andd don't bow to anybody including their royal leaders. Has all that changed??

Igbos generally do not bow. Im Igbo and I have never bowed to anyone, not even the king of my village. However, Kanus case is exceptional. A lot of Igbos are coming to see him as a liberator, peharps even a replacement for Ojukwu. In that sort of scenario, I can understand why some Igbos would bow to him. As for Kanu bowing to some elders, he is a judaist, I believe its part of his program

desmondneke:
this kanu of a man was just sent to kill innocent igbo people...the sooner they realise this the better fr them.....ask ojukwu wetin happen o....we all clamour fr peace and unity....b4 I hear say my igbo friends don de fight war abeg o!

You mean Kanu put guns in the hands of Nigerian soldiers and asked them to open fire on unarmed people?

Or are you arguing that it is part of the duty of the Nigerian Army to be shooting unarmed people when there isnt even any war?

Lets not all forget that the area now called Bayelsa used to be part the old Eastern Region that broke away as Biafra. Then, it was called the Yenagoa province. So when I hear people ask 'Bayelsa is now Biafra?, I wonder if these people know Nigerian history.

As for Bayelsa not being South South, in Nigerian law, there is no area called 'South South'

igbodefender:
The Northern youths want to force a referendum that only South East Igbos would be allowed to vote in. South South Igbos where Igbo Land has ports will not be allowed to decide. If the South East Igbos choose to separate as is widely expected, they will become a surrounded country. That means they will be forced into a customs union with the new Nigeria.

Since the new Nigeria surrounds them on all sides, they (the new country) will be forced to pay crippling customs duties to use Nigeria's ports. So, that means if a company at Nnewi, Aba begins to export cars, computers, etc., and make billion$, someone sitting in Abuja can suddenly impose very high tariffs to kill that Biafran industry.

They will then laugh at Igbos on places like Nairaland because such independence will only be on paper. If they close there border, the new country will be forced to send people to Abuja to beg them to reopen, and will probably be given tough conditions like allowance of grazing reserves in their tiny country.

And Im telling you that a SE referendum cannot be forced because neither the SE or the SS exist in Nigerian law. What is recognised in the Nigerian constitution is Igbo, not SE or SS. So if a referendum is held just for Igbos, it will be in the congregation of wards that identify as Igbo. Wards and Igbo are recognised in Nigerian law, SS and SE are not.

StephDamielola:


There is beauty in diversity. Lets not kill each other, we need each other.

I need your Yam, you need my Nunu.

I need your Vegetables, you need my Pepper and Tomatoes.

I need your Fish, you need my Cow.

But no law says we must all be in 'one Nigeria' to exchange these things with each other.

I dont see the point of this thread. The so called SE or SS is not recognised in the Nigerian constitution. So if a referendum is conducted for only Igbos/Igboids only, the SE or SS cannot be used. I suspect that a 'ward system' will be used whereby wards that profess to be Igbo or Igboid will be congregated and a referendum held there.

The Northern youths coalition wanted to use scare tactics to scare Igbos into given up by saying 'ww will chase you Igbos back to the East and sieze your assets'

These people dont seem to realise that an ideology cannot be defeated by intimidation