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This is one of the reasons I don't pity those jungle justice is meted out on.

When one sees a news like; 2men lynched and burnt for stealing a tricycle, you'll think hunger caused it.
Someone will then post a comment like 'and our politicians are stealing billions' or 'may God punish the mob.'

In 2010, I was using the Nokia N95...and I was so proud of it.

forkadict:
How convenient to give your second response. I bet those soldiers in prison prior to the Boko war would have given the same response. But reality moreso harsh reality compels people to act very differently from theoretical course of action. I would have agreed with you 100% if those guys had been well equipped.

Always attack the root cause of a problem. Do a root cause analysis on this issue and tell me the cause of the mutiny. The mutiny in this case is just a symptom. IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. I guess that is why civilians particularly technocrats are far better administrators thanI military personnel.

Mutiny here wasn't just a symptom, it was a problem in itself. Soldiers have been fighting and returning alive before this set of convicted ones, when the convicted ones were sent, soldiers were still fighting and even after. Why was their case the only different one?

A clear symptom for 'no weapon' as they claim would have been high death rate of soldiers, high rates of mutiny of rebellion of soldiers to fight...not just one case.


Why punish someone that robs because he has no job and has to feed? Is unemployment not the root cause in that case?

forkadict:
I agree with you in part and that pertains your last paragraph generally speaking.

But as for the mutiny is mutiny part? I beg to differ. Even in the US army, a soldier is mandated to disobey unlawful orders. Please check Google for this.

Yes, mutiny is mutiny in whichever circumstance.

It is not mutiny if one refuses an unlawful order. In this case, they were found guilty for mutiny...that there were inadequate weapons, doesn't make the orders illegal.

forkadict:
Really

Military is the same everywhere?

So American army high command will embezzle funds meant for prosecution of a war and ask their rank and file to go and get slaughtered in war like chickens??

Never mind, when you are eventually commissioned and sent abroad for courses, perhaps you will understand that civilised and advanced military are not run the way Naija military is being run.

I wish you the very best in your supposed noble profession.

Bro, it is not a matter of embezzlement or anything.
Mutiny is mutiny in whichever circumstance.

If you want to join an organization, get enough details about it, if you can't deal with the bad aspects of it, it is better not to join at all.

forkadict:
Really??

They are suffering for their own sins. But may I ask you (cos I assume you are not a General) that if you were in those guys shoes given the same circumstances, would you have acted differently?

Yes, they are suffering for their sins.
The army is clear on such offence and its punishment.

As I said, they are quite lucky to still be alive for now.

As regards your question;

1. I probably wouldn't have been in their shoes.
I wouldn't be in the army in the first place.

2. If peradventure I found myself in their shoes for whatever reasons, I would have acted differently. I'd have obeyed the order and fought, if I fight, I may die...and I may not. If I don't, I'll be killed for mutiny. After all, some soldiers obeyed and are alive and free today. These disobedient ones are soo lucky, if they are released, it will be unfair on those that died...and others that will still die for mutiny...besides, releasing them will breed more indiscipline in the army...and you know what means for the nation, we aren't safe.

I'll rather die there as a hero than be killed here as a coward.

farouk0403:
Dasuki innocent people are suffering just because of you and your greediness.

Buhari pls save those innocent souls.

They're suffering for their own sins.
The military has no clause to warrant refusal of orders from superiors.


I think they are already very lucky not to (have) be(en) executed.

Harrisee:
That's the life of a soldier. That's what you agreed to be. You don't back down under any circumstance. You guys should have resigned rather than protesting. Its well. Thank God you were not killed. As long as there is life, there is hope.

One cannot resign from the army.

You only exit when you are retired or dead.

I really don't think there's such thing as 'fashion blunder.' What is trendy is what many go with.

Fashion is an individual thing and it is definitely dynamic, what seems cool today may be odd tomorrow.

...buh you shouldn't wear something that offends or irritates others though.

My opinion though.

JoeCutie:
He sold? And not give away? What are we saying! He gave this one away because it's 'silver' boot. Why did he sell that one and not dash it out like this one? You seem to be very staunch in your defense of him, it's cool though, but we have to be very realistic here.

The selling is as good as dashing it out nau...

After all, he did not keep the proceeds.

Of what use is a golden boot to a country affected by earthquake? What they need is the proceeds.

You need to be realistic and objective.

JoeCutie:
First off, I'll never hate on Ronaldo. I like the man for his efforts and his focus. I admire his drive too, and I think he's a good man.

Secondly, many of them, the whites - footballers, musicians, politicians, business men/women - give to charity. That's how they are. It's almost part of their culture. So it's not just Ronaldo. Many of them have even given to charity more than Cristiano.

Finally, coming 2nd in the race for the ballon d'or does not go with any trophy. They'd just give all the three players something to say 'Congratulations', but there's nothing like the 'Silver Ball' like the 'Golden Ball'. So, second position in the ballon d'or is almost like a title - a recognition - which you cannot 'give away', if not, Ronaldo would give them away.

Many people that give to charity are not branded 'selfish' and only wanting the 'prima.'

Many folks on this thread refuse to acknowledge this man's glaring kind gestures, they can only create a selfish picture of him in their own minds.

As regards your last point, there's an award that goes to the runners up of the balon d or, just like there's an award for the runners up of the goalscorers of the Euro...if he only wants the prima as you said, he'll have given away his 2nd place balon d or awards too.

The fact that he gave away the physical award does not change the fact that his name will be in the books as the winner...so, why the fuss?

...besides, are you aware that holding on to that boot award may be a breach to his contractual agreement with Nike?

JoeCutie:
You're too smart. He doesn't accept anything less than the prima, and he certainly does not like to play second fiddle to anyone. Anyone at all! Had he won the Golden Boot, he would not dare to give it out. If his magnanimity is so intoxicating, he should give away one of his 'Golden Boots', 'the pichichi' and or his 'Ballon D'Or'.

Irrespective of this or whatever, he's still a nice person though. I think.

Bro, are you aware that Ronaldo has sold his golden boot and donated the proceeds to charity on more than one occasion?

What's the fuss over giving a teammate a silver boot?

The same man you said doesn't play second fiddle has about 4 2nd place balon d or awards...why not just stop the hate and appreciate the good deeds?

tayebest:
Mtcheew, First class crammers!



"Exam is not a true test of knowledge, IQ no be by grade" - Anonymous

...however, if one cannot pass an exam, his knowledge should be questioned.

LastMumu:
He does, why does everyone here think he doesn't?

I'm astonished at many 'educated' Nairaland members who cannot comprehend that simple message.

How will someone read that and say the Brit referred to Africa as a nation?

If he had said Continent, it would have been erroneous cos he'd have made a wrong generalization on the whole Africa as not all African countries are poverty stricken.

mars123:
yes it was his friend that did that.

Please yourself with your 'great' comprehension skills.

Babysho:
He has unknowingly insulted all African countries. He deserves to be "Balls Punched".

By the way, the Government of most African countries need a foundational reset. Nigeria wey suppose dey drag with China still dey get Electricity wahala wey tiny Chile don conquer since.

It isn't an insult, it is just the bitter truth, there's widespread poverty in Africa.

If a call a madman 'madman,' have I insulted him?

mars123:
the only mistake the guy made is in calling Africa a nation. Africa has endemic poverty. But if you are offended by the comment at least reply constructively.

He never referred to Africa as a nation.
Read it again.

If I say 10billion Naira will help "A poverty stricken Nigerian state," have I referred to Nigeria as a state?

codemaniacs:
I'm vexing for your reasoning capabilities... £100m is nothing to Nigeria...

Europe has poverty problems but they don't broadcast it the way they tarnish Africa.

I'm really amazed at you, not just your reasoning.

Poverty is everywhere in Africa even right under YOUR nose. You live in a country where you'll find a beggar within every 100-200metre you travel. Are you just blind to these simple and visible facts?

For someone to tell you your country has problems has become a problem to you. Why are you living in denial?


£100m dollars will build 2 government secondary schools in each state of Nigeria. If Nigeria does not need that money, Buhari won't run around pursuing monies that isn't up to that... eg, pursuing Metuh for 400million Naira.

For once, think, accept that you have a problem... then you can seek a solution.


African Nations such as Angola, Burundi, Central African Republic, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Lesotho, Madagascar including NIGERIA will appreciate £100m if it is donated to them.

codemaniacs:
So u're saying there are no poor europeans

I did not say that.
There ARE poor Europeans.

Just like any sane person will point to the Northern Nigeria as a specific impoverished area in Nigeria, that is the same way Africa will be cited when speaking of poverty in the world.

Europe does not have poverty problems as Africa does.

Are you mad at the lad for saying £100m can help a poverty stricken African nation? Is it a lie?

validstar1:
Yes but ur cerebrum is FAULTY because u have d guts 2 support a spoilt brat lucky 2 be born an European insulting Africans after they colonised & paralyzed our resources. U are a FOOLISH DUDE painting Africa in bad & incorrect light

They've stopped colonising you for over 55years now, isn't that enough time for you to rebuild and be successful?

Nigeria was actually better off when it was being colonised than now that we're self governed... do you disagree?

I'm really disappointed you're angry at someone that made a point.

emmysoftyou:
guy I feel your points, the truth is that we Nigerian see them as a racist, hence misunderstood the dude. but the guy made mistake by generalizing it, maybe he thought African is just one nation. but truth be told, majority of African countries re stricken in poverty.

That's the problem, Nigerians taking the truth to be an issue.

The guy simply expressed his frustration at the way money is being wasted when there are serious and pressing poverty problems in Africa. He actually means well for those that are making an issue out of it.

...and he did not take Africa to be one nation neither did he generalize anything...or even make a racist reference. I wonder how some read that piece and think in that direction.

The truth really hurts.

When we say 'loot recovery' is far from 'fighting corruption,' many will hound me. If I loot and it is returned without me getting a good punishment or public embarrassment, next time I'll loot more smartly.

I've had a first hand experience with ex convicts and I have no doubts about this report. The corruption is deep and inherent is every part of the system...many Nigerians aren't ready to change.

I think we need the death sentence for corruption cases and many other crimes for now, at least, to restore sanity and create an awareness of how serious these problems are.

Just like GEJ did more in the North in 5years than all what Northern leaders in history combined did for the North.

HateU2:
I'm telling you.
Boring relationship is the worst.
Couples get too comfortable with each other that they spend almost their time 2geda in d room. Why cant they spice it up? Movies? Game malls? Picnics? Clubs? Or worst get drunk inside d room and have a nice tym.
Boring relationship kills relationship.

With time, those things you mentioned will become boring too...what then will happen?

A healthy relationship needs proper communication and understanding from both parties.

bozy4real:
Those in the university is just an opportunity to be thereis now as if those in tthe polytechnic at more brilliant.
Most polytechnic student that went back to university through direct entery are doing far far better than those the meet. His not my choice or our choice to go to polytechnic but when that was our best bet rather than wasting out time and been useless to our their nation n the world at large .
Am proud to be an HND holder if u have any problem with that go n join BH cheese,........,.

Kindly modify your post.

You're part of the reasons HND is less esteemed.

It is no longer news that Oshiomole is about the worst governor in the south.

The guy caused all the shii Buh his lady went too far with her statements, however, the guy should have shown a bit of maturity by totally ignoring the ranting babe or dropping her off.

Truth be told, if it was the other way round, a guy meeting a fellow dude in his gf's car when they had plans...with the gf being the one that called the dude, it could have been worse...even though nothing physical may happen.

TheArchangel:
You sound so entitled to your mum's pocket. So she can't treat herself to good things because she has an ineffectual Buffon as a son.?

Get off

Yes, he has a right to his mums pockets until his mum stops blocking his way in the name of 'protection.'

iPrevail:
Some people are just dumb, maybe for the fun of it.. Y'all calling him lazy and ineffectual didn't read where he said he wanted to go off to PH and start a job?

To you Op, you'll accomplish nothing through hate.. pata pata Na you e go kill.
Just chill okay? look for other jobs around your area or nearest locality. learn a skill or som'in.

However, follow your guts if you must! If you have a reliable friend you can crash with while trying to get a job.. cool, do it.

No look anybody face o.. This life na only you waka come.

Like seriously, I doubt the comprehension ability of many.

The op complained of two things.
1. Unequal treatment of his siblings by his parents.
2. Blocking his hustle.

Most people did not see the second

if she can't help him then she shouldn't block him.

if she's trying to protect her son from rituals, then she should help him with funds to start up something for himself. it is clear that the funds are there.


Op, consider other options and present them to your parents them to approve so u can be independent, if they don't approve any, request for their suggestion and select the one you're okay with. if they don't have suggestions, you may have to demand for allowances till you get to have something they are cool with. in the worst case scenario, you should impose your decisions on them but be ready to bear the consequences. you have the right, you're an adult

IbnIslam:
dont lecture me on this. My point is that the op saliently wanted to instigate this kind of discussion. because he dresses and speaks a northern language is not enough. Let me ask u, because u dress and speak like an English man does that make u a European? The op can as well present the story without hypocritically associating the man to a region cos at least the man is Nigerian first.

So, what is enough to ascribe a region to him?

Let me just hear your honest response, since you don't want to be 'lectured' on these simple issues.