₦airaland Forum

gregyboy:
Lol, the current oba of lagos is the guy on the picture below and he dressed in his benin royal regalia.....


Ok lawani you were missed you left TAO11 to be battered by Etinosa1234

Anyway if i have to take your word serious post an article or statement from the current oba of lagos claiming ijesha heriage

A palace, the Iga Alagbaa was built for his progenitor in Lagos who was begged to stay in Lagos when he wanted to return to Ijesa. From ologuntere down to the present oba are all Ijesa. Benin did not conquer lagos by war, they accepted a Benin prince peacefully. The Ijesa man who was called Alaagba also did not conquer Lagos. He married a princess and became the progenitor, hitherto of Lagos kings. How can you say the Lagos dressed like the Benin monarch? The same way you said the owa obokun dresses like the Benin king. Those are not Benin regalia please.

gregyboy:
After twisting the account to favour the aworis, we still have a benin monarchy ruling lagos, i guessed the binis begged the aworis to allow a benin monarchy rule them......lastly the British acccount also recognized the fact that lagos was under benin rule and they paid tribute to benin... Before the British took over lagos.....


Sense bro, sense..... TAO11 has gone mad dont follow suit

we no longer have Benin monarch in Lagos, the oba of Lagos is of Ijesa descent.

Welfare states are rigidly organised. Everybody pay tax. Almost zero tax evasion.

Efewestern:
Yes, but the Urhobo population in Ijesa do not come close to that of Ikale, can you help with their occupation?

they are into palm oil production.

nowpresence:
yeah
is it same as ilesha

Ilesa is the capital of Ijesa land. Are you urhobo?

nowpresence:
which state is this located

Osun

There are also many urhobos in Ijesa land.

Edopesin:
lols you have no idea

Ogboni came to Benin in the 1950s.

Every human culture has theology but only Christianity and Islam insist they are the only way.

What this means is that there will be nowhere for anyone to hide from tax collectors. All profits and wages will be subject to taxation and there will be no working under the table or gig economy meaning the informal sector. All government budgets will be dependent on income tax recoverable from the economy. As governments rely on taxes for revenue, there will be a stiff competition for tax paying workers by national governments. The higher the number of workers you have in your economy, the higher your budget and the more relevant you are to the world. No nation will want to lose tax paying workers to another since all governments will be dependent on taxes when the global economy is formalized leaving nowhere for anybody to hide. In a short while, after formalizing the global economy, china followed by India will be the largest economies on the globe. The USA will be the third largest economy.

The whole globe can be evened out by formalizing the whole global economy and depending government finances on income tax.

Genoa:
South Africa is a shithole.

HIV nah normal thing for there.

NIGERIA is better.

but SA is an immigrant worker destination well ahead of Nigeria.

So long those nations have a good system of depending on taxes and not free natural resources, it would not matter who is ruling them.

MightySparrow:
Nimrod and lamurudu are not the same. Error of highest order.

Lamurudu is the way an illiterate Yoruba man will pronounce Nimrod.

Oduduwa narrated to his children that he is a descendant of Lamurudu or Nimrod. One thing is therefore certain and that is the fact that Oduduwa was a scion of a royal family that saw Nimrod as their progenitor. The pre Mohammedan royal family in Mecca can be such a royal family. So, we should not throw the baby out with the bath water by saying Oduduwa was certainly not from Mecca. Nimrod was not mentioned by name in the Quran, so we can not say that the Nimrod in that account was put there by Yoruba Muslims. A royalty and his entourage certainly arrived Ife from afar off, maybe mecca and the oracle made that royalty the Oba in Ile Ife. The name of the royalty was changed by the oracle to Oduduwa. Through marriages and other alliances, this new Oduduwa spread his clout over the majority of Yoruba land and became the new father of the nation.

Amujale:
Its important to note that Africans never enslaved other African prior to foreign distruption.

What you are finding funny is treachery, Stop peddling these false narratives.

The slavetrade in Africa lasted for 2000 years; begins by the Arabiam fundamentalist with the Arabian slave trade, then the Portuguese slave trade and finally the Transatlantic slavetrade.

I hope that clears that up.

All the blame of slavery lies at the feet of the Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric warmongers.

slavery was an institution worldwide. In Yoruba land over 70 percent of people were slaves. Slavery helped to make sure that no one was left behind. It helped to make sure there was no unemployment.

In the US, the net worth of any public figure can be gotten via google.

Oranmiyan a grandson of Oduduwa was made oba of Benin by the oracle in Benin. This history is in the Ifa corpus under odi meji. He returned to Ile Ife after renaming Igodomigodo to Ife Ibinu and leaving his son Owonika by a Benin woman to be Oba. He arrived Ile Ife and later raised an army for the purpose of avenging the expulsion of Oduduwa from where he came from. He raised the army and faced north and not Benin direction. He reached the river Niger and was prevented from crossing the river Niger by the Bariba. His expedition was thus cut short. He settled there instead of returning to Ile Ife and married the daughter of the Nupe king. This was the foundation of Oyo. Oranmiyan was the first Alaafin of Oyo as well as the first Oba of Benin. The purpose of this write up is to show that if Oduduwa had come from Benin, Oranmiyan would have faced Benin with his army but he faced north, the direction of mecca though, his expedition was unsuccessful, it led to the foundation of Oyo.

They are lost forever.

We have a lot of Chinese, Indians, Lebanese and etc who migrate here in thousands to work in companies owned by their nationals not just Nigerian companies.

budaatum:
Now that I got your time. Tax is a people influencing thing. If I tax you your hard earned money, you would, or at least, should, be concerned with what I do with it. If I'm out there spending your money I have taken as tax on olosho, I am very certain to piss you off. And if you are not spineless, you would most likely campaign for my opposition so I get kicked out and can tax you no more. But if I spend your tax money fixing roads so your trucks don't get damaged by potholes, and pay police to protect you from bandits, and I use it to build schools to educate those you might want to employ so your business can grow and you employ more of my people, you are very likely to invest more so you generate more income that I can tax and thereby increase the IGR of the taxation area I am in charge of. And the people you employ that I spent your money educating will vote me back into office.

Now, assume I tax your factory at a rate of 50%. You probably pay 10-15% in labour cost, and perhaps 10% for raw materials, and perhaps another 10% on energy costs, and depreciation might take another say 5%, and let's say 5% goes on interest on capital for your business, leaving you with a measely 10% profit at best. Do tell, you being smart and intelligent and hardworking, why would you not pack up your factory and go where you are taxed much less? And how much IGR will I get from you once I have chased you away with my greedy 50% tax?

Low tax rates encourage businesses to stay, is what has been found the world over, all other things being equal, and the more businesses there are, the more I am likely to be able to collect as tax, is the point here, and not that high tax equals high IGR, as you seem to be implying I am inferring, which I am not.

because a taxed economy is organised,formal and have MINIMUM WAGE, it tends to be an immigrant worker destination. This is why workers relocate from Nigeria to Europe and the United States. However businesses tend to move to low tax countries if there is infrastructure in the low tax country. This is why the United States lose business to China. The best way out is to formalize the whole global economy and take tax everywhere with no exception.

VirginSearcher:
True peace of mind is better than economic dominance but it appears no region in the country is clamoring for separation apart from South East/South South even Niger Republic and Chad are still under developed nations which Nigeria is far better than am I wrong?

niger and Chad have stable power and lower corruption than Nigeria.

VirginSearcher:
Lmao! how much do u think we can generate from income tax monthly/annually?

if Nigeria is well organised, we can generate close to 200 billion dollars annually from income tax.

When the whole economy is formalized and income tax is the main source of government revenue.

SLAP44:
End up in an area where people are taxed to death? Not logical at all.

tax paying nations are efficient and have high HDI. Why do you think people rush to US and Europe?.

IGR is proportional to development.

I come from the ghetto. No one knows tomorrow.

illicit:
I understand what you mean by a one party state and what it means.

Now a political party has the primary purpose of procuring political power, what the Ogboni possessed during the Oyo empire regime was temporal or spiritual power, An alaafin is also an Ogboni but wouldn't become an alaafin if he wasn't related by blood to the throne.

The communist party in China produces the rulers in China, inasmuch as it is a one party state, it's not a monarchy like old Oyo empire.

What we have in old Oyo is monarchy and not a party system.

the ogboni ruled oyo the same way the cpc rules china today. The Chinese president is like the alaafin. He is not barred by term limits. If the cpc is a party today, then the ogboni was a party in the past too.

illicit:
No. I disagree.

It's not a party because its existence is not to wrench political power but it serves as the custodian of the people's earthly religion, kingmaker and a check and balance on the power of the Alaafin and Oyomesi.


It was neither a ruling party nor opposition party.

in a one party state, the one party has all the power. They don't wrench power from anyone. That only happens in a multi party system. Would you say the communist party of China is not a party?.

illicit:
The Ogboni was an arm of govt in Oyo Alaafin and not a party as such

it is more appropriately called a social party. It was a party in the past.

It is dependence on free oil money! We should be dependent on taxes.

MelesZenawi:
First of all Gambari is a fulani man.

Secondly, Yorubas dey two or is it not the ones in Nigeria?

as his name implies, Gambari is a Yoruba man of Hausa, not Fulani descent.