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[quote author=X-factoria]Do you know how much yearly investment is needed to fix/build infrastructure in the next 5,10 or 20yrs?[/quote]I suppose you missed the part where I said all the funds do not have to be available at the inception of the project and at the same time? Rather disbursement is spread over the life-cycle and phases? Did you read at all?

[quote author=X-factoria]Now, to educate you on why our savings cannot be used. That foreign reserve and SWF are the security or a form of comfort to the lenders to make fund available to us. They improve our credit worthiness as a nation and the direct impact of that would be seen in our credit ratings. Lenders won't accept Nigeria's sovereign risk without those things in place. In addition, as madam Ngozi suggested, we are able to negotiate better loan terms - interest rates, longer tenor etc because we have a favourable rating made possible by the foreign reserve and the SWF. So it is not as simple as your N20/N25 arithmetic!!![/quote]Oh OK, you are now quoting "Madam". The same Madam that was exposed as a liar and possibly incompetent during the subsidy probe early this year? If you are quick to forget, I haven't. Yes, indeed, that money we are saving guaranties the Western world access to funds to grow their economy; while we continue to be enslaved with various phantom debts of which the funds usually end up in private pockets.

seanet01: Don't kind of understand this logic.
If we have sincere budget deficits then borrowing is inevitable.
But borrowing to finance phantom deficits has always been our problem.
This people inserts projects that were never going to be executed just to embezzle funds meant for it.
Federal Ministries are the epitome of corruption on this aspect.

Dude, no sensible person can rationalize the economic sense in Okonjo's strategy. Firstly projects are not necessarily executed at once and they are also broken down into phases. With this in mind, you should realize we don't need to borrow when the money can be disbursed in phases along with the project phases. As well as the fact that projects can be prioritized. With that laid out, there is absolutely no need to borrow. The analogy being put up there which I responded to assumes that all the funds for the entire list of projects need to be provided all at the same time and at inception which doesn't make sense.

Mind you, it is apparent to the exposed that she's nothing but an Aunt Jemima for the powers that be.

[quote author=PROUD-IGBO]^^^On the bolded.....i'm not an economist, but using common sense one can see the error in your argument:

Assuming i'm strapped for cash as a businessman, and i have $20 saved in the bank with nothing else to invest in my ailing business (in specific/targeted areas).....an investment which if made would rapidly expand my business (ie- turnover, profit and new factories) and i'll then be able to employ more hands; now imagine i was offered a $20 twenty year loan at a very minimal interest rate, to make all the necessary investments to expand, and which would then mean i can still hold on to my $20 savings in the bank; now which option do you reckon i should go for?......bearing in mind that the avenues for waste and fraud have been reduced by tying the loan to measurable and identifiable deliverables.[/quote]Really? Minimal interest rate? How minimal? Can you give details? Tying the loans to measurable and identifiable deliverable? You did the tying right? So that $20 you saved, what would you be doing with it anyway?

samkoro: The right word is gossips and not gossipers. A person that gossips is called a gossip.Look at the kind of leaders we have.Leaders that were empty headed in their primary school days.

American. Like "cheaters".

SELFWORTH: "Citing'

Sighting

ifebosco: verysoon them go say na oyibo bi our problem

fools

Look in the direction of the puppet master; not the puppet. Then you will understand where the fools are coming from.

AjanleKoko: A dash from the recent past



the European Champions are out of the UCL, and Real Madrid are 16 points off the pace in the league.
Some benchmarks!

LOL. This Mourinho dude sure does have a chip (maybe heavy log sef) on his shoulder. The thing driving him is the fact that despite starting his career at Barca and his "successes" he had not landed the Barca job. Rather it was handed to his "junior" Guardiola. He really should start packing his bags as he will be sacked as soon as Man U deal with them in the Champions League. I'm sure he'll have better success at Manchester City or Anzhi or which ever moneybag club comes calling for him to manage their overpriced players.

dorothy111: And what is the position of Chelshit, Swansea, Arsenal on EPL table? Messi is good, and Barcelona is even better, but some how they couldn't get past Celtic. Imagine how many celtic team-like in the EPL, teams that really want to sit home and let you play. La liga is boring!

Dorothy? Are you a woman or some kind of male/female cross (ur profile says you are male)?

Yaya Toure
David Silva
Kun Aguero
...

Anyway, just this past weekend, football enthusiasts were treated to the finest on the very last game of La Liga for this year: Malaga vs Real Madrid. Not that you would recognize good football if it hit you right between the eyes; but I digress.

By the way, this thread is about Messi, not about Barca losing to Celtic (conveniently forgetting the hundreds of wins over similar bus-parkers).

Do I hear these m0r0ns still pulling out arguments out of their a$$es? All the players making waves in the EPL are La Liga imports:

Michu (Rayo Vallecano -> Swansea City)
Hernandez (Valencia -> Swansea City)
Cazorla (Malaga -> Arsenal)
Mata (Valencia -> Chelsea)

The list goes on and on. This also includes Torres from 4 years ago. Yet some dullards actually think the guy that outshines all of them combined in La Liga will not wreak havoc if he comes to the EPL? What does he need to prove? The EPL is a step-down. La Liga is on a higher level.

ddippset: o! i just love malaga. sir alex fergusson and manchester united will be licking their lips right about now. real madrid has become like a great big pvssy waiting to be fvcked.

And to think Isco is a Spaniard. He's never played for the senior team as good as he is because of the embarrassment of midfielders. Good thing is, he's just 20 years old; he can wait another 3/4 years and he will still be quite young.

maryjames9: You are so naive. Have u ever seen or heard of people who deliver a message and that is it,they just vanish. I mean,u dnt see them again. The truth is you ignorantly think everytn is about money,fraud and selfish reasons. You dont have 2 be a pastor to receive from God.

They just vanish eh? Is your name "maryjane" or "maryjames"? The former will explain some things.

GooseBaba: The origin of this laws should be questioned..

You are on the right track, right there. The origin of this law in the US was to prevent as many blacks as possible from voting. All they had to do was lock you up (even with trumped up charges, and then your are knocked out of the voting pool). Yessire!

I'm glad I read this. I would have done the same thing had I visited that area as I planned to since I was quite familiar with the place. Na wa o.

Clemzy16: Now that she lied.. Hope she is going to jail?!

Mosdef. They call it abuse of 911 privilege (using the emergency number for the purpose of malice) and will be brought against her by the Police. Then the husband can also file charges if he so wishes.

The man was even trying to cover for her psychotic behavior by saying she has a "drinking problem".

I don't know why people are assuming she was killed by a white man; when it is more likely she was killed by her pi.mp (who is likely a Nigerian).

Who put Agboola in that list? What happened to Yisa Shofoluwe?

Abujafood: Oliseh (Defensive mid field)

Or Osaro Obabaifo.

Chynx: The NPF...smh! What a pity!

What is the pity there? Sebi the government doesn't want a functional Police Force (to put them in their place when they misbehave)? No wahala. Sebi they think they are well protected by the few of the zombies they have at their beck and call while the rest of us are left defenseless. Let's see how it all plays out.

babyosisi: But why is she living in the ghetto?

I don't think she'll turn you down if you provide accommodation for her on Banana Island or Lekki Phase 1.

Another bit of ignorance to clear up. The Argentina of 1986 WC played a classic Italian counter-attacking style. In fact, the only difference between that team and the Italian team of 1982 was the creative genius in the middle - Maradona. So basically, Argentina played a style Maradona was familiar with in Italy and in Napoli. This was no coincidence. The team was built around Maradona and they had to play a style he was familiar with.

Luckily all the ingredients were in place - 2 World class, pacy wingers - Valdano and Burruchaga, as well as mostly home-based players who were easy to mold. The only game I remember in which this team was ever a goal down was against Italy in the group stages (which ended 1-1). In all other games, they were always ahead - one of the traits of a counter-attacking side (which also explains why El Clasicos these days have Real Madrid usually scoring the first goal if you catch my drift). A bit of side-talk, but this was the only team I remember in which the wearer of the No 1 shirt was not a goalkeeper as was customary (rather he was a forwarder/striker by the name of Sergio Almiron). I remember back in the day I had an argument that any player could wear any number he liked and somebody said only goalkeepers can wear the number 1 shirt. Well, there is no football rule to that effect.

1990 was not much different but with a slight change in personnel. And remember what I said about always being ahead in games. They lost to Cameroon simply because Cameroon scored first; as well as in the final against Germany. Once again (as was in 1986) the only team they fell behind to and still equalized was Italy. Apparently they had Italy's number.

SUMMARY: It is false to say Maradona played a different style in Napoli and Argentina. And now there is a reason the Argentine squad is being built around Messi in a style he's familiar with.

One thing though I remember most about the 1986 WC Squad of Argentina was their determination. Their will to win. I remember the Argentine defender and scorer of the first goal in the 1986 WC Final (Jose Brown) dislocating his shoulder and yet finished the game with his arm in a sling; and he prevented a goal with a scissors kick on the goal line with an arm in a sling! That's a team with character and determination. It is mostly unfair to the team to say Maradona single-handedly won the 1986 WC. He almost did, but it was still a team effort. Once again, teams win trophies, not individuals.

EDIT: Jose Brown actually tore a hole in his shirt and stuck his thumb in it. My foggy memory made me believe he had his arm in a sling. It was worse than that apparently.

J12: How many seasons did eto play with xavi and iniesta? Not more than two seasons!

2004 to 2009 is 2 seasons? Where were you when Math classes were being held?

Anyway to the Xavi/Iniesta "debate". It's a none-starter really. Spain won WC 2010 by single goal margins right from the 2nd round to the final. In fact, the only game they won by more than a goal margin in the entire tournament was against Honduras (2-0). No other team in history had won a WC with these tiny margins: scoring just one goal at just the right time and holding on to the lead. Even WC winning Italian squads in recent history - 1982 and 2006 scored more goals. Do you think a team with a weak defense can chalk off a series of 1-0 wins (totaling 4 or more)? Spain knew they were missing a Messi, and had to dig deep. So the defensive line of Spain deserved as much, if not more commendation than even the mid-field. Check what happened to Barca last season simply because Puyol and Pique were not fit for long stretches. All the Messi goals could neither win La Liga nor the Champions League.

So once again; teams win trophies, not individuals.

Warlord3000: Dump-folded was an intentional word he coined and I don't think its a mistake.. So U̶̲̥̅̊ should correct urself..

Dump- as in dustbin trash: folded- as in packed in a pillow style for him..

So he has been dump-folded.. Lol

Sense of humor needs to be taught in Nigerian classes. I still doubt they'd get it though.

[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Person say he bought pillow in traffic, you are going on and on about pride and haughtiness ...what will you say if he said he had ordered custom made pillows....the ones that will fit the contours of his neck straight from the manufactures in Switzerland?[/quote]It's not hard to spot a person with inferiority complex. If you say you buy pata for road-side with your "hard-earned cash", they will feel "oppressed".

paris10: Sorry to hear to that, but do you really have to say "my hard earned cash?". Believe me or not, pride, haughtiness, arrogance, conceit, glory, all go before a fall.

Be thankful, humble, and nice to people. Let people commend your effort and hard work.

Wetin dey do dis one?

Vanneni: Which messia

Hahahahahaha

Emioga: dont know what your problem is.am concerned because she's human and i know how it feels.just expressing my own point of veiw.logica or wetin be your name?abeg park well joor.

You can't know what my problem is, since I have none. But I know what your problem is - which would prompt you to get pregnant for your landlord's son and then "stand up to his cheating ways". You better face your OWN problems.

Emioga: Experienced this 3weeks ago.my landlord's son beat me up so bad i lost my 2week old pregnancy just because i stood up to his cheating ways.though he came to apologise but i have not spoken a word to him since then.this tobi of a bastard shud be bought to book regardless of his own side of the story@doctokwus.i wish her speedy recovery

Why don't you face your more pressing issue with your landlord's son? Or didn't you lose your pregnancy? You should be less concerned about this matter than yours.

coogar: maradona had already won serie a for napoli before careca joined him down. check the history and try again.

Ever heard of Fernando Napoli? Or Ciro Ferrara? Or Andrea Carnevale? These were all guys that were capped by the Italian National Team. And you compare Napoli to Real Zaragoza? Name 3 Zaragoza players that were capped by Spain...

Oh, did I forget to mention Salvatore Bagni? A team that had at least 4 members of the Italian National team was like Real Zaragoza? Try again.

LOL. So Napoli was like Real Zaragoza? The same Napoli squad that included the deadly Careca? Oh, so why didn't Maradona "lead" them to win the Scudetto which Inter Milan of course won?

pazienza: Marco proved his worth at two teams at a top level football,the netherlands and AC milan, he is a great player,but unlike the midget that is stuck at one team,he is not being hyped.

There is a reason the 2 most influential team-mates in the Netherlands squad were also his team-mates at AC Milan (Gullit and Rijkaard) - individuals don't win trophies; teams do.

pazienza: Cretin, eusebio inspired his crappy portugal team to a world cup semi final,considering the fact that your midget has not been able to replicate this feat,even with a star studded argentina team,i would eusebio's feat a victory.

Here is the 1966 Portuguese Squad:

1 GK AMERICO Ferreira LOPES 06 Mar 1933 FC Porto
2 GK JOAQUIM da Silva CARVALHO 18 Apr 1937 Sporting Lisbon
3 GK Artur JOSE PEREIRA 15 Sep 1931 Belenenses
4 MD VICENTE LUCAS 24 Sep 1935 Belenenses
5 MD GERMANO de Figueiredo 18 Jan 1933 Benfica
6 MD FERNANDO PERES da Silva 08 Jan 1942 Sporting Lisbon
7 FW ERNESTO FIGUEIREDO 06 Jul 1937 Sporting Lisbon
8 FW Joao LOURENCO 08 Apr 1942 Sporting Lisbon
9 DF HILARIO Rosario da CONCEICAO 19 Mar 1939 Sporting Lisbon
10 MD MARIO Esteves COLUÑA 06 Aug 1935 Benfica
11 FW Antonio SIMOES 14 Dec 1943 Benfica
12 FW JOSE AUGUSTO de Almeida 13 Apr 1937 Benfica
13 FW EUSEBIO da Silva Ferreira 25 Jan 1942 Benfica
14 DF FERNANDO CRUZ 12 Aug 1940 Benfica
15 FW Manuel DUARTE 20 May 1943 Leixoes SC
16 MD Jaime da Silva GRACA 30 Jan 1942 Vitoria Setubal
17 DF JOAO Pedro MORAIS 06 Mar 1935 Sporting Lisbon
18 FW Jose Seneca TORRES 08 Sep 1938 Benfica
19 MD Joao Custodio PINTO 09 Feb 1942 FC Porto
20 DF JOSE BAPTISTA 17 Feb 1941 Sporting Lisbon
21 DF JOSE CARLOS da Silva 22 Sep 1941 Sporting Lisbon
22 DF ALBERTO Augusto FESTA 21 Jul 1939 FC Porto

Coach: Otto Gloria (BRA) 09 Jan 1917

Do you see how many of the squad played for Benfica? The same "crappy" Benfica that won the UEFA Champions League in 1961 and 1962. And also was runner-up (second) in 1963, 1965 and 1968. Did you notice their period of strength was around the same time the "crappy" squad of Portugal was 3rd at the 1966 World Cup?

Teams win trophies, not individuals.