₦airaland Forum

Basher8583:
Last time I checked, it's not my region that is frustrated and wants to leave one Nigeria. Only loser talk like that.

No other tribe in nigeria has established such collectively poor decision to abandon the country based on marginalization. Like say na you be the only tribe for Naija

Because you think you are winning that is still my point.
Whereas facts speak for itself. The average Northerner is comparable to a destitute, the region is unproductive and Insecurity, poverty and diseases are the order of the day
You people have no purpose than to be used by your elite as puns thinking you are winning the south. Again I laugh.

larryjonze:
make reference to one nation that had revolution without blood sharing or violence

*blood shedding

England - Glorious Revolution
East Germany - Peaceful Revolution

larryjonze:
Out of 195 countries in the world, how many countries seeking breakup could actualize it, from record secession is not feasible if not impossible.
We are not as divided as we think, i think we are divided because how leaders want it that way suite there selfish agenda anyways. they make sure our problem in the south,west nd east is different from north challenges. north did not participate in #Endsars cos there was absolute no reason, their is no police brutality in the north. make i end am there
Revolution leaves room for one nation and a reset while a break up enforces division and a reset. nothing beat oneness i rather go with revolution, if possible without sharing of blood

You are talking jargons of fantasy, stop blaming leaders for the division of Nigeria.
Most Nigerians are not amongst the leaders and we have been divided since before Nigeria was created by the British.
Yoruba are in 3 countries, what makes you think I need any so called leader to instigate me before I know that I share more in common with my blood in Benin Republic than a fulani from Sokoto?

Latakia:
I get charms, I can enter anybody house/room even if the whole house doors is lock, If 1000 DSS or soldiers dare come to arrest me in the night, I swear none of them will return to tell the story. I have charm on me that no bullet can penetrate. I can disappear and reappear in any location of my choice. I inherited all these charms from my father.

Just one visit, the clown Japa and has been on the run since, not even his kilishi apron that he called charm could save him. A bloody PDP thug that went with Seyi Makinde to Kogi state to rig election suddenly became an activist by night.

And after all the preparation to kill him. He is still alive
Who is losing?

Igboho that has hurt nobody is giving up sleepless nights not bandits, not fulani herdsmen not Boko Haram
You are sick

Bigsunny01:
U should know dat Oduduwa is a son of Edo

Trace it from here and correct urself

Keep your silly self quiet.

What do you know. You think this is edoworld.com where you get all those retarded nonsense to massage your little fragile Bini ego

Basher8583:
You are just losers and you are pained because you do not know how to win. You just can't comprehend how to do it.
Based on that you would prefer to go and create your losing country which will be totally land locked. But you don't care. You will insult Andy country that stands in your way.

If you cannot handle local governance i wonder how you want to handle presidency.

Then never give you biafra you don dey kill your brothers that oppose your seccesion movement. Its that how you want to run a country.

Lol.. Look at the North - poverty ridden, highest illiteracy rate in the world, Nigeria is only poverty capital of the world because of the North, Insecurity and terrorism in the North making it no different from a war zone, diseases eradicated elsewhere still in your North... All this and you call it winning? Lol
No, the average northerner is a big loser in life, but you people and your culture of elitism riddled with hatred for the south and subjection to the fulani elites have caused your sufferings. Your elite will continue to eat the common man dry and deceive you that the south is the enemy or anyone who objects to fulani domination is the enemy
I laugh you think your people are winners? Lol

PARADIZEPRIEST:
SECESSION IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
THE SOLUTION IS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE SUFFERINGS OF NIGERIAN YOUTHS
NIGERIA YOUTHS ARE SUFFERING FROM:
MALNUTRITION,IGNORANCE,LACK OF ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT,MANIPULATION BY POLITICIANS, MANIPULATIONS BY PROSPERITY PREACHERS,
MANIPULATION BY FOREX PREACHERS,MANIPULATION BY DRUGS,IDOL WORSHIPS,CHARMS,
GET QUICK RICH SYNDROME,ETC. WE NEED SINCERE NIGERIANS IN GOVT AND OUTSIDE GOVT TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES AND THE NOISE WILL STOP. MASS-SCALE MECHANIZED FARMING NATIONWIDE IS THE MAJOR ANSWER HERE. E.G IF NGOS,774LGS,CHURCHES RUN FARMS DURING THE WEEK THERE WILL BE ENOUGH SEEDS TO SOW IN VINEYARD.

Secession is the solution. You would realise this if you knew the problem of Nigeria is foundational
A country created by the British, which separates many ethnicies into different countries and maintains within itself an array of different ethnicities
Why can't Yorubas who are divided into 3 countries have their own country, for all yorubas to call home, why can't Hausa who are divided into 2 countries have theirs too?
You wonder why Africa is still a mess after colonisation? Because we still maintain colonial legacies and function like colonies

Juliusmalema:
Light skin is a rare thing in yoruba. If there exist one then it is due to outside marriages aimed at polishing their genes with future generation.

Light skin is not rare in Eastern yorubaland especially Ekiti

RedboneSmith:
Have you (or anyone here) read Dr Akinwumi Ogundiran's recent book on Yoruba history? It's called "The Yoruba: A New History". I suggest everyone with an interest in Yoruba history should try to read it. Of the three major syntheses of Yoruba history that have been attempted in this century, it is my favourite by far. Dr Ogundiran is an archaeologist and cultural historian currently lecturing in some American university.

According to him the original homestead of the Owu was actually far north in present-day Kwara State. The Owu (according to Ogundiran) were actually the first Yoruba group to acquire horses and deploy horses in warfare, before Oyo. By the mid-14th century, they had established an expansive state stretching from Saki to the Igbomina areas and south into Oyo and Ibarapa territories. (This may explain why there are places in Igbomina with Owu in their names. This Owu was also the state to which Oyo paid tribute in the days of Ajaka and Sango.)

This old Owu state (according to Ogundiran) was later destroyed by Nupe militarists or the combined forces of Oyo and her allies, and the survivors moved southwards and reconverged in the rainforest in the late 16th century and built the Owu Kingdom there which was destroyed in the 1820s.

I'm still reading this and haven't gotten to this part of the book but I'm familiar with this theory already.
The thing is that traditional interpretation always concludes that Owu homestead is not far from Ile-ife, it is even called Orile-Owu (Owu Homestead), and this is what most people go by. It is also from here that the Owu disaster happened, which is fresher in cultural memory than the greater Owu of the time of Ajaka and Sango

scholes0:
Otun is not Igbomina, besides, the Owoore of Otun is even one of the highest ranking Ekiti Kings historically speaking.
Efon is also not Ijesha… Infact, the original archaic/old name for all Ekitis in colonial literature is ‘Effon’

I know that bordering areas of Ekiti to other groups might show some elements of dialaectal mixing, but it isn’t enough to classify them as Non Ekitis. The Ekiti Kwara groups show even more Igbonna influence and yet they are still Ekiti. The OP even acknowledged it… how then will Otun that is further south and in Ekiti state suddenly become full fledged Igbominas?

The Ekitis and the Oyos are the only Yoruba groups than span 3 states. Plus Ilaje if we count Lagos.

ah now I see where your point of view comes from

You are using the Kiriji war, or more accurately the Ekiti parapo.

But that is no different from your argument against the idea of an "Okun" subgroup. Different subgroups coming together.. Okun is even more valid in my opinion because it is based on shared cultural and linguistic features than basing the Ekiti subgroup solely on Ekiti Parapo that was only created in war times and has changed many times. Even Ilesa and Akure were once part of Ekiti Parapo

scholes0:
Ilajes are in Ondo, Ogun, Delta and Lagos

There are no Ijeshas in Ekiti state

Ekitis are in Ondo, Ekiti, Kwara

Itsekiris are in Delta and Edo

Iseyin is not a Yoruba group.. They are Onko

Okun is a sociopolitical nomenclature similar to Anioma. Okun is not a Yoruba ethnic group- What we have are the Yagba, Owe, Ibunu-Ikiri, Oworo, Ijumu and Gbede.... The word 'Okun' itself is derived frm a common greeting among all central and northeastern Yoruba groups including Ekitis, Akokos Etc.

Owos and Ikales are in ondo and Edo

There are no Igbominas in Ekiti, they are in Kwara and Osun.

You didn’t mention Ifes

You didn’t list groups outside Nigeria

Ẹ̀fọ̀n-Aláayè and Imesi are arguably Ijesa.

And are you considering Akure as Ekiti?

HolinessForever:
https://www.thesun.com/news/3234701/jeff-bezos-richest-man-history-amazon-stocks-soar/

Mansa Musa, emperor of Mali, is still the richest man ever at ca. 400Billion Dollars

festacman:
The DOT states are not doing badly at all.

Many people misunderstand the plight of poor Northern children in this cut-off point show of shame. The reality is that while Northern elite send their children to top-drawer private schools, these young poorly educated cut-off-point victims never make it at SSCE and UME. They generally drop out, doing odd jobs and many becoming drug addicts. The young people who use quota system to secure plum jobs are still children of the elite. Head or tail the rich and influential win.

Then the idiotts should hold their northern elite accountable.

They are praising the government despite the failures just because it is a northern nepotic government.
They believe southerners should be conquered, even if they will never enjoy from that and only the northern elites will

I have no pity for the poverty ridden average Northern because they love their fate. To them as long as a rich northerner is on top of southerners they don't mind being poor

And you had to look for a Nigerian forum where nobody talks about somalis or gives a shiit about your opinions to say this?
This troll might not even be somali

Monogamy:
Northerners know how to unite together whenever they need something regarding their region, you see the Southerners, we are educated for nothing. Always in unfriendly/unhealthy competition with each other.

If we are not fighting ourselves, it could be pulling each others down yet some clowns would be blaming Northerners for Southern Nigeria's woes..

Eish

The North is under the hegemony of the fulani. There is no power tussle, the hausa and kanuri have accepted their second class position
That's why you have that image of Northern unity but its not to the benefit of the common man in the North, only the fulani elite gain

Leybari:
it worked, and the police also gave it the needed publicity..
It's no more Kanu now, even the Yoruba wanna leave..

Only the northerners dont want to leave Nigeria

Exactly, the police played into their hands.
The awareness has been raised

greatiyk4u:
Most Nigerians are very stupid seriously

You know how dangerous it is to protest in Nigeria, yet you embark on such dangerous mission that you already know the outcome, later ,those who devicieved you will be online calling UN, USA,UK, HTC,GSM..LOLZ while chilling in their comfort zone leaving you helpless under police brutality......

How many of these protests have yielded positive result in the past? Use your head before them go use am 4u.

Whenever prominent Nigerians come out for protest, just know that it is for sincere course and you can join, example is protest against subsidy removal in January 2012.

It was a rally not protest and you do that to raise awareness
Not to immediately get what you want but to raise awareness of it and the reaction of the government plays right into the plan

Juliusmalema:
PHOTOS:
Gov Hope Uzodinma doles out N5,000 000 (Five Million Naira) to each of the 21 Police Officers Murdered by the Unknown Gunmen in Imo State while carrying out their security duties of protecting life and properties of Imo people.

The money were handed over to the next of kin of the dead officers by the Imo State Commissioner of Police, CP Abutu Yaro.

Governor Uzodinma extended similar gesture to the military officers, civil defense and sister agencies affected.

Even those that died since 2, 3 years ago would be on that list. Corrupt people won't miss the opportunity to make people out of this

Blakjewelry:
The picture of blood shows definitely there was a disaster

You know some fools were saying it was staged
As if igboho went to kill ram and spread the blood everywhere.. Some people are just daft

jrjfjfj:
The earlier my fellow Yorubas realize that igbos doesnt love you the better for them .All they are after is to mock you after your downfall.Any Yoruba doing anything with igbo or fulani is going to regret it at the end .Igbo and fulani have been friends since BALEWA/AZIKWE Government in 1959.So forget that trash of igbos telling you they hate fulanis,Igbos and fulanis are allies ,YORUBAS DONT BE FOOLED.

Keep quiet. All these northerners so desperate to keep Igbos and Yoruba from working together

Officialgarri:
We are support of any measure that is put out there to counter a protests meant to cause unrest in this country.

Even if Oodua thinks it's their protest, IPOB can sneak in like a thief in the night and a repeat of #endsars mayhem may reoccur

its a rally not a protest. Rally is a convergence of people in one place to show support for something. It is not a protest
Yoruba people can't be stopped for meeting in their own land
If there is any unrest it is the security operatives you should hold responsible not civilians doing a rally like has been done in other states already.

NaMe4:
It's their region and they can make any law they deem fit (even if it contravenes that of the Nigerian constitution). If you are an apparel trader, the law there says do not display your wares using mannequins, modify your business method, it's your damn private business.
Of course, forget about alcohol business if you love yourself.

Sadly, those on the other side of the Niger are scared to even enforce a ban on open grazing, a measure which would have far more life-saving value for their citizens. Right now, a sizable part of their population suffers from relative food scarcity and soaring prices following continued destruction of farmlands and slaughtering of farmers.
But guess what? The recreants would rather resort to treachery and fighting one another for insanely selfish reasons.

You know the problem with the south is political correctness. We want to help everyone and act as good people. But it is foolishness
Imagine ban on open grazing causing debates but we can't use mannequins in our businesses in the North or sell alcohol??
Southerners had better start doing whatever they like

Just incase anyone is reading to learn something... Olmec heads are indeed mesoamerican. The olmec culture existing from 2,500 - 400 BCE in modern day Mexico.
We can't steal other people's heritage and cry about ours being stolen

Two sides

One self hating and ignorant, another overtly centric and pseudohistoric

We need to do better as Africans

9jakool:
So you are saying if someone can perform in bed for thirty minutes, they should also be able to withstand lack of air for 9 minutes without dying? Where do you pull your logic from?

Also, kneeling on someone's neck for over 9 minutes is not "a few minutes." So, If someone knelt on your neck deliberately for 9 minutes and you begged them to stop but they didn't, you would be fine with it because they didn't intend to kill you?

His police colleagues and the department heads testified against him, just to show that he's not a positive role model as you are claiming. Also, people in the community have filled at least 16 complaints of his excessive use of force against him prior to this incident. He abused his power and he got held accountable. End of story.

Some Nigerians are really stupidd, they will stand for anything that is against people of African descent in the US
I don't know where this comes from but so many nigerians, especially igbos have issues with African Americans and it reflects in such people supporting Derek Chauvin

Triquetra:
This are ORCS bones from the Lord of the Rings

Things like this are what inspired all these mystical creatures
Imagine ancient people seeing bones of something that looks human but also not exactly human.. Boom! Orcs, Trolls.

xreal:
Ok.
Enough of this man's story.

Can we now hear word?

His friends and family should stay closer to him at this period, to avoid a case of suicide out of shame.

it should serve as a deterrent to molesters and rapists.
The more high profile people get jail time for this the better for society.

Olu317:
Not many but four groups have been confirmed by geneticists, presently. . The important thing is that gene don't tells lies. And Yoruba people is the most concentrated ethnic group in West Africa.

You are too silly to even be able to comprehend Genetics olu
So whether genes tell lie or not is irrelevant as far as you are concerned because you can't comprehend the implications

Mangekyo:
Three Months After, Court Orders Release Of OPC Members Detained After Arresting Alleged Fulani Warlord, Wakili



SOURCE ; http://saharareporters.com/2021/06/22/three-months-after-court-orders-release-opc-members-detained-after-arresting-alleged

This has taught a lesson.. That you don't hand a fulani criminal to the policy.. Fulani control the police
You kill the criminals straight

Baawahala:
The problem is not calling for total separation or total decentralization, the problem is are they willing to listen to the calls to any of these.?
NO...
They will tell you they don't understand.
Mean while they are busy channeling infrastructures to their regions with the monies gotten from Niger/Delta.
Any day they wake up to claim that they now understand what restructuring or separation means,know that they must have rendered the Niger/Delta barren.
They forgot that you can take resources to zombies,but you can't turn zombies into resources overnight.

Exactly. These elites (from all regions) need to be discarded.
The people must make the sacrifice to reject their money and not sell their souls every 4 years to people who see them as tools not human beings

It's no wonder those wicked people in power will never speak for Decentralisation or Separation
They love it the way things are.

And life will keep getting worse for the masses

Atiwaye:
If you don't know Toyin falola then stop talking trash about Nigeria because you know nothing as far as Nigeria is concerned. Back to the matter I think to decentralized the government is a good way to go although that's what north don't want to hear.

But trust me if southern can unite on this matter there's nothing north can do than to concur, I just don't know why igbo elites are silent over everything they don't support biafra they don't support decentralized where do they belong self?

Falola just proved his time in the US and has made him not know anything about Nigeria again.

You want to keep fighting for restructuring, restructuring that we've been calling for, for over 40 years?

You can't force the North to agree to restructuring. And all ethnicities/regions have different idea of restructuring. Not everyone wants to weaken the power of the president and federal government.
Not everyone wants to stop collecting allocation from Abuja. Those igbo elites want to be president. You can see the majority of elite are not on the same page with the masses (the people) not just among igbos . Anyone still talking of one Nigeria today is selfish and only looking for Abuja priviledges and doesn't care about the people.

For restructuring to happen, everybody must agree to it. That is difficult and it still doesn't do well for yorubas because no matter the restructuring nothing is as good as freedom and your own sovereignty
The great Yoruba people do not need to be in a country with anybody. We are too significant of a people to be afraid of staying alone
We have things to address and progress to make, we need to ensure the Yoruba identity is not erased in the next few centuries. We need a united single Yoruba state where all yorubas can call their own country not being separated into various countries with nowhere to call our own because of one stupidd Berlin conference of 1884

adenigga:
Source: https://punchng.com/Yoruba-scholars-monarchs-caution-Igboho-demand-decentralised-govt

Useless men with no foresight.

The Yorubaland extends up till Atapame Togo, with yoruba descendants worldwide estimated to number up to 100 million, there is no reason why a Yoruba state should not exist.
If Jews could struggle to have their own country and even evict Palestinians..
Why can't yorubaland exist as a sovereign state for all yorubas?
We have our system of government, we have our institutions, we have our culture, we have our natural allies. No reason the Yoruba should continue to be held down by Nigeria and separated into 3 countries

The time for all of Africa to redraw the sstupid colonial borders created by Europeans is now.. This century it must be done and it will start with the Yoruba and Igbo - Africa's greatest