₦airaland Forum

9jacrip:
At the emboldened:

Sir, you're very wrong. Olodumare has never been and is not part of the 401 deities,

Iba Olodumare

Iba irunmole eji'kotun

Iba Irunmole eji'kosi

Ooni is the 401st that never gets mentioned before a prayer, ifa & orisa chants.

No & No, Olodumare is not irunmole. He made them and we were made by Irunmole.

Don't confuse it.

9jacrip:
It makes no sense arguing over a letter case.

However, it is all semantics but in your attempt at being pro-African, you're creating an antithetical structure in Iseese to that of foreign belief.


Olodumare [God]

Irunmole [deities/gods]

Olodumare is not Irunmole



God

Jesus [deity]

But in Christianity (apart from JW)

[Jesus is God & God is Jesus]


Difference: either GOD for Olodumare or God for Irunmole, they are not the same. Olodumare created the Irunmole. When writing in English, all uppercase in a sentence is invalid. Hence, Olodumare takes the uppercase G while irunmole takes the lowercase - using G for both not only creates confusion but 'de-reps' Olodumare.

scully95:
When you said Eledumare, you used GOD.. Then you should be ok to use God for the Irunmoles.

Just as Jesus is being reffered to as God.
Now that's my point.

Eledumare is GOD.

Irunmoles, Orisa should always be regarded as capital letter G any time. Even though we don't have this type of discrimination in our oral language, Yoruba. This English is not ours and we need to correct these English poeple each time they make a derogatory remarks against our Gods.

YelloweWest:
LOL.
I watched a sumit in katsina state today. Buhari was referring to it as kano.

Saklekplus:
See ur myopic brain, it's was duller than half current,, why are u mentioning South West, which South West u are talking about,u guys should embrace ayodele chukwudi fayose, we don dash u, we even dash u bode George and ffk join .. So fayose can be SE president after u gain ur independent and make ffk his vice

delightf:
gods that re blind nd deaf that can nt recuse ur land nd mk d price of fuel to decrease to 65naria,gods of the gods of gods to the people that want. To serve him,there is only one God, God of yaweh,

9jacrip:
Those are not just titles, they are names of Obatala's children who actually lived and were put in charge of certain aspects of Obatala followership which the present title-holders handle.

Those titles are more; some are strictly for omo-ile while some can be given to non omo-ile. Incase you want to initiate Obatala, I may have a title for you , a number of your people from Ekiti do come to the compound and some hold titles.

Igbo Obalara is the same as Ile Balea.

I will ask 'Loja (Obalesun) and post a screen shot of his response on whatsapp here.

Bollinger:
Show me a traditional culture in China that infringes on the rights of others. The people conducting the Oro festival are not the police nor does it have the legal backing of the law so how and why should should they infringe on others rights. Anyone can worship whoever they want to, but should not affect the rights of others.

Bigprozzie:
Come out at your peril
It is our tradition
If you dont like it, take the numerous buses back to your village

9jacrip:
Olufon founded Ifon.

Olufon has a compound in Ife where he was before moving to found Ifon.

Obalufon's house is called Ile Balea, they used to be the 3rd arm of Ile Olorisa; I am yet to find out what happened to them - maybe they have another temple elsewhere because I still saw Obalara (Obalufon Clan King) last week while I was in Ife.

I've attached a document snapshot below; I suppose the post was just a representative post sent from Obalufon compound to mine.

9jacrip:
You're welcome sir.

Some people claim Obalufon 1 & 2 were Oduduwa's sons which means Obamakin, Ogun were Obatala's people. I don't know if this is in that book.

Obalufons ogbogbodinrin (Obalufon alayemore's father) factually is part of Obatala's group. Obalufon shrine is around Igbo Itapa. Infact, in my compound we used to have Ilesun, Ilale & Balea (Balea is the line of Obalufon descendants). Their house is called Ile Balea.

But I wonder why some people tag him & his son with Oduduwa

Do you have this in the book? Besides I would love to get a copy of the book.

9jacrip:
Ife is no longer Yoruba,

I see you homie.

Don't troll, get busy with something.

9jacrip:
Yep.

Bro abeg, do you have the picture of myself & my uncle I uploaded many months back when you opened a thread on Obatala?

My pc crashed & I'm on a photo recovery mission.



Abeg help your aburo.

9jacrip:
Wow!

This is the best you can come up with as 'history', despite your parents' hardwork for funds to send you to school in other for you to be able to think independently in order to cotribute to knowledge for the advancemdnt of humanity?

I hope this is the history of your baba nla baba e of your idile in wherever the Bleep in Southwest you're from.

Macof abeg see your guy, I died seeing the emboldened

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/shivers.gif

9jacrip:
The emboldened though, I wonder if it will ever happen for the benefit of the south.

OBAGADAFFI:
It doesn't connote ethnic unity.

Their are limits to Mixed-blood in every culture.

And since you aren't Yoruba why are you insisting on your own version of Yoruba history?

compoundC:
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Wyttcat:
Hehe! Typical, you'd rather confuse yourself further than give credit where it's due that you just learnt something from 9crib. Thank God the post is still there. Go back and see where 9jacrib corrected you. You had said Adimu meant decongested nose and linked it to why oba of Benin always covered his nose in public, when the tonal marks on Adimula is totally different from the nose you were talking about, and that right there made it clear that Yoruba is NOT your mother's tongue.

Yoruba cannot unite with the two most hateful tribes, believe it today, there are tribes Yoruba will unite with politically if Nigeria is still one, those two are not among.

We don't need to like each, all we need is to be truthful, that's the only thing that takes people far..

Wyttcat:
You call yourself Yoruba with some knowledge of Yoruba history yet you don't know that anywhere you see the word 'Adimu' is the abbreviation of Adimula, but you have quickly gone ahead and linked it up with Benin. I hope others can see what I've been saying all along that you are not Yoruba. You may love Yoruba people and the culture and understand the language but, your main purpose is to find loopholes in Yoruba history and plant Benin in there, with the sole aim of rubbing off on undue credits from the Yoruba.

What these show is that you have studied Yoruba just like any foreign almost-there historian but, if it isn't, it wasn't, it ain't never gonna be.

Splinz:
I've already answered you, sir. I said, "I'll learn of it; when I'm in need of it". It's entirely a matter of choice.

Splinz:
Your opinion is noted, boss. However, considering the story of origin by our own ethnic nation, that's entirely a matter of choice for me. I'll certainly learn of it when I'm in need of it. Thanks

Joel3:
.this is old gist. one of the creation story. and I believe every native, tribe or religion has one.

Splinz:
Okay, lets reason together. You see, it is not everything that's recorded in the bible, i.e, the day to day activities of bible's characters. This style of writing is not only common in the bible, but also in the literatures of the world. Why? Here, "Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were EVERY ONE of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written"- John 21:25. That's it! If the world itself cannot contain just Jesus ministry alone, how much more detailing every thing about creation?

Now, the point I'm trying to make is this. In Genesis 4:1, Cain is born. The very next verse, Abel is born too. The point: after Cain was born, definitely, a lot of time has passed before Abel was born! Also note that it is in verse 1 that Adam knew his wife, and it is still in that verse that she bare Cain. So at least you should know that nine months has passed since Adam knew his wife before she bare Cain!

Coming down to verse 14, certainly, a lot of years has passed before Cain slew his brother, judging from the fact that one was a farmer and the other, a shepherd. That means they were adults who could take responsibilities!

So, it is very much possible and likely that at this stage of their lives, their parents may have already produce other children in order to be "fruitful and multiply". I hope this helps?

stexsy:
Hell fire designate....

Repent and give ur life to Christ

absoluteSuccess:
Alright, whatever is from me that's beyond your context is absurd to you and lacking substance. Do you have substance?

Everyone has control tool and you know yours is ineffective on me. You can Imaging me striving with substance to please you!

The question is, what do you have to offer? What's special about me that get you hooked to me?

As long as I am the issue with you, I will delay the ace and release it at an older age.

You would have existed, watching my every move for a lifetime, doing nothing of your own but how to prove me wrong.

I can do nothing about your perceptions of me, it's your duty to hook on me and interpret my posts as you like.

I won't tell you what to think, rather I will give you what to think about. You have nothing to share do you? I will occupy your mind.

That be it for now.

onila:
they contributed to build America
slave labour

absoluteSuccess:
You shouldn't be sick about anyone's worldview brother, we all have our variant upbringing and perception.

I think each person has a story to tell that they loved to made known too. Let them tell their stories.

The wisdom of the west is enshrined in democracy of knowledge, tell your story and support it with proof, it may be true or it fizzled out.

Running berseck about others opinion is the actual sickness,

Every information is meant to fostered the good purpose of whoever values a line of a given school of thought.

9jacrip:
Interesting one sir but whic of the Ogbonis?

1. Ogboni Obatala.

2. Ogboni Ooni.

3. Ogboni of towns (council such as old Oyo, Ijebu etc).

4. Ogboni Aborigene

5. Christian Ogboni (R. O. F.)

6. Blood money Ogboni type mostly involving Ibo men.

Keep in mind majority of the Reps & Senate members from the south are Ogboni (Aborigene, R.O.F & Ibo blood money Ogboni).