If you find FAKE know that the ORIGINAL must be somewhere. So try to find it because there can never be FAKE without the ORIGINAL!
oteneaaron: If one of them is a fairy tale, then all of them must be fairy tales.
You can't change a rule you didn't make.
What do you understand by the word "MYTH" ?
Many people like you may have this strong belief that "History, it is urged, is real, whereas a myth is fictional."
But in reality, through research into the old religions that existed before Christianity, we find out that the story of Jesus, Dionysus/Bacchus, Horus, Mythiras, etc are all MYTHS.
The virgin birth of Isis who gave birth to Horus is a story as OLD AS HUMANITY.
Isis was an ancient African Goddess who got pregnant by her husband Osiris after he was killed by his Brother Seth.
She got pregnant by Immaculate conception because it was after Osiris died that she became pregnant with Horus.
Isisi is the original Virgin Mother and I am proud to say that this story first came from AFRICA.
It is written on the stone walls in the temple of Luxor in Egypt.
You can go there today and see it for yourself.
Until you learn that everything the world has ever known FIRST CAME FROM AFRICA, you will continue to be a captive in the mental prison of your false god Yahweh.
Go and make use of the numerous books you have read then let me know how it has helped in making you a family of people you don't even know around you. The book Bible has helped me to make people both far and near my families so even if i leave Nigeria today homes and families awaits me throughout the world just name it Jehovah's Witnesses are waiting to welcome me home all because of what we learned in just one book! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Mark 10:29-31
So go and enjoy the BENEFITS of what you've gotten from studying numerous books!
LIAR! Even a man or woman can call his/her own biological child names if the child misbehaves but only an insane will raise weapons to kill his or her own child due to the child's stupidity.
Learn from this wise illustration!
oteneaaron: You don't have to raise a weapon to smite a person before you are guilty of murder. It is on this Nairaland that you have threatened to "deal with" Courz. It is on this Nairaland that you cannot speak without raining insults on people - you have called people MAD, STUPID, ODE/FOOLISH, etc. It is still you that believes a time will come when your god would destroy billions of humans who are not Jehovah's Witnesses and then after that, you and other Jehovah's Witnesses will bury these dead bodies and take over the lush properties of some of these billion people who have been murdered by your god. Your thoughts, words and action on Niarland reeks of insults, destruction and mass murder by your god. "As a Man Thinketh, So Is He." Do the math.
Before Jesus Christ polygamy means nothing since the Son of God hasn't come to declare what we need to qualify for everlasting life so all servants of the God of Abraham only have to stick to the covenant between God and the descendants of Jacob through the Mosaic laws. But after Jesus has come whoever fail to live by the words that protruded out of Jesus' mouth has been condemned already unless if you've never heard of him! John 3:16-18
The God of Abraham told the Israelites this through the mouth of the same prophet who gave them the laws:
I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18
God immediately added saying:
"Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name" Deuteronomy 18:19
So what has Jesus got to say regarding husband and wife? Well he referred us back to the beginning when it was only Adam and Eve {Matthew 19:4} according to Jesus God's standard for marriage in Paradise is One man One woman.
Whoever want to enter God's Kingdom must learn to live by that standard right from that very moment because all those that lived before John the baptist are free from condemnation since they don't know the Christ {Matthew 11:11-12} but as for whoever live after John the baptist among God's people must fight really hard {Luke 13:24} because without compliance with the words of Christ there's no salvation for them! Luke 18:18-23
But i will never ever raise a weapon against my fellowman neither will i support anyone doing so. That's enough evidence to show where i belong!
brocab: But you don't preach peace: you only show your anger on this page: besides Janosky you are the angriest two I have read. I don't know where you believe you actually fit into Jesus. You are not a good example showing any kindness, all you have done is abuse me, writing lies about us, you haven't stopped. And this is your way claiming to be a Child of God. You are on the wrong road: you aren't walking on the Narrow road, the highway's for you.
“The greatest futility!” says the congregator, “The greatest futility! Everything is futile!” Ecclesiastes 1:2
I have seen something further under the sun, that the swift do not always win the race, nor do the mighty win the battle, nor do the wise always have the food, nor do the intelligent always have the riches, nor do those with knowledge always have success, because time and unexpected events overtake them all. Ecclesiastes 9:11
The man whose words are recorded above happened to be the wealthiest man of his time yet he had the same line of thought with you. But there's one thing that makes him differ and that's the thought of worshiping with his neighbours because as humans we need the companionship of our fellow humans as we all face the same futility. Ecclesiastes 12:1
If Satan is my father i won't be preaching peace hammering on what Jesus commanded regarding doing things without using weapons to kill my neighbour and fellow believers due to orders from politicians. So if you call Max "Satan's Child" for kicking against lifting weapons against anyone neither support the use of weapons {Matthew 5:43-48} i can sense whose side you are! Matthew 10:22-25
brocab: We were both born into Sin-so what you accuse me from doing-do you do it? {Matthew 7;5} You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from my eye. Max your father the devil is a murderer from the beginning.
From Abraham down to David the promise has continued so all the demons (pagan gods) keep speculating how gods were born in one place after another so that by the time Christ is born it won't be anything special after all it has been heard in various pagan traditions!
Well by the time the real promised child was born Satan can't keep it low he quickly turned into a fake Star and led his agents to Herod the great, was it to to get baby Jesus killed before his time? Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! Satan knew that he can't kill Jesus but to make the baby start doing supernatural thing so as to alert all God's enemies but God told Joseph to take the baby away until Herod the great died.
sonmvayina: It is not about worship .. It is about making right choices.. It is our actions that determine if we are righteous or not...it is not our beliefs.. Our beliefs don't define us...only our ACTIONS do..
YES! I'm acting on what i believe you too should go and act on what you believe! James 2:18-26
LordReed: LoLz! Where did I agree to not quote you again? But since that is what you want I will oblige you.
I said you quoted me first and you angrily cut the discussion then i said you can't do without quoting me on this forum but you called it a dream and i predicted that in few hours or days you will make the dream a reality.
Ọmọ here you are. Just don't make any promises again regarding the matter because i can now say it confidently that you LordReed can't do without me on this forum!
KILLER of faithful believers, go and find your kind!
brocab: As the topic back then were on these lines. ''how many times do I read in the scriptures God told Israel to go to war: with swords killing everybody fathers mothers and children, livestock, every living being. But you are forgetting you aren't Christian so these commandments don't apply to you. You believe in the Watchtower, and they believe in another god, a little god. You don't follow the scriptures: you only pick out the verses that suits you, the rest of the bible is worth nothing to you. Jesus spoke to your ancestors the Pharisees along time age-rebuking you for not believing in the Word of God. We are here trying to help you: since you prefer to stay on this page. I understand no-one likes you, but we can blame that on the Watchtowers. I don't understand why you would rather prefer to stay with the Watchtower molesting Fathers, Mothers and Children, then refusing to go to war to protect our countries.
You quoted me first in all threads but you angrily cut the discussion and i told you that you will soon quote me in hours or latest few days, you said it's a dream right? Well it has come true in just few days!
So now you remember saying people that obey Jesus should be killed for not picking up weapons shey?
Ọmọ go and PREACH to your kind. When Jesus issued that decree all his disciples keep it in their hearts as orders from their King is to flee from wartorn zones even though it involves JERUSALEM their most cherished city! Luke 21:21
So go and PREACH to your kind!
brocab: And you call that murdering you. How many times do I read in the scriptures God: told Israel to go to war: with swords killing everybody fathers mothers and children, livestock, every living being. But of course your god wouldn't do such a thing. If a war broke out in your country your people would expect you to fight: so don't give me any of your lies, you would protect your love ones. Question if someone wanted to rape you, would you defend yourself? or would you allow that person have their way with you.
Ọmọ whenever you hear my name "Maximus" you must TREMBLE IN FEAR! Because whatever i tell you will come through sharp sharp, i said you can't do without quoting me on this forum didn't i?
LordReed: Did someone hijack MaxInDHouse account? LoLz.
brocab: I am preaching to a faithless person: I am preaching to you Max: and I don't need to preach to anybody else, who's already in line with Christ in faith. The Holy Spirit is already teaching them. I am preaching to the lost souls, Max you are being preached too. I understand you hate reading the scriptures about God: this is why I am here to help you understand the scriptures proper, at first it's always difficult, but if you read through the scriptures I have written down: compare them with your dusty old bible you have lock away for centuries. I realize your learning skills are slower then the advance person: this is why I have kept my patients with you. I would like to see you see the light in Christ-just being saved knowing you are walking in Christ: beginning your journey walking by faith is a sure way of knowing you are now on the road to glory You already realize: you and Janosky are here for a reason: it don't matter what craftiness you and Janosky have tried to used against us-you are not only trying to use your craftiness on us, you are both trying to use it on Jesus Christ. {Matthew 25:40} ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
That day God declared His judgment all angels were alert listening to what will happen to the three rebels that got their Creator annoyed so after Adam's death and nothing happened to Satan many angels followed his path as they abandoned their positions in heaven to come and enjoy sexual relations with female humans, they formed bodies for themselves using the dust of the earth since they knew that's what God used in creating bodies for humans but they can't make it live so they entered into the bodies they made and as they formed finest as in fittest structures coupled with their high intellect and abilities to make things happen easily all the females they went for fell for them! Genesis 6:1-2 This was what led to the birth of wicked giants in Noah's days as the unnatural mating can't produce normal children {Genesis 6:4} the fallen angels had supernatural powers to deal with their gigantic sons but what about normal humans who doesn't understand what was happening? Everyone began looking for ways to defend themselves as the giants were taking whatever they want by force without working, they are into all forms of immoral acts and forcing their ways all through, this led to chaos and there was no peace on earth! Genesis 6:5
You all know the rest of the story as God made water to destroy that generation saving only Noah and his family who WORKED with God to preserve the lives of all the animals.
But what happened to the fallen angels in human bodies? Since they're spirit beings possessing bodies they easily dropped off the bodies they put on and returned to their former abode (heaven) well they were shocked as God didn't allow them back into the family of His loyal sons so they were excommunicated only to start imagining what will later become of them! 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6
This is where the lies about the living dead came from! Normal humans die with nothing left after we die but those demons never died they only dropped their fleshy bodies they're the ones promoting the idea of soul or spirit surviving humans after death, according to God's word when we die nothing survives our bodies {Ecclesiastes 9:4-10} everything goes blank until we are called back to life! Job 14:13-15
Satan and his cohorts keep promoting the lies that something survives the human body after death but where is Adam?
They were left idle! As powerful spirit beings that can't feel comfortable without doing anything they were employed by Satan to work with him in opposing God's sovereignty that's why they returned to the earth after the flood has subsided and stationed themselves in various locations until God scattered humans all over the earth. Anywhere humans get to a demon is already waiting to welcome them and become their god/deity they will worship and since God keeps His side of the deal that humans can rule themselves successfully without God's intervention He allowed humans to sought themselves out so the demons began indoctrinating Adams descendants with different doctrines in the name of various gods. This is the condition all humans found themselves until God called Abraham out of the most influential city of that time in other to start preparing for the birth of that promised child! Genesis 12:1-3
Abraham has heard of the story that a child will be born who will undo all the works of Satan but when will this child be born? Through whom will the child be born?
Abraham felt highly privileged when God told him that this child will come through Abraham's lineage!
Please open your Bible to Genesis 3:15 and read with me:
And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.”
This is where all the demons (later driven out from God's presence) got the idea that the child who will destroy Satan will be born not through the lineage of Adam's sons because none of Adam's descendants can't redeem any of their kind {Psalms 49:7-9} since they're all sinners unworthy of such a task {Romans 3:23} they sensed that the only way out for innocent descendants of Adam is for a perfect human having equal wait like Adam to come and pay the ransom {1Corinthians 15:45} this means that child must be divine in nature!
Go and PREACH your useless god to faithless people like you since you're not interested in those who have faith! Remember you which faithful people to be put in front of the battle where your faithless brethren are killing themselves simply because the faithful wants to keep the commandments of Christ who told them never to think of settling issues with the use of weapons! Matthew 26:52
brocab: Max: you can only see the Father and the Son through your flesh: you can't see it, nor understand it, because you haven't received the Holy Spirit to open up your eye's and your ear's to learn it. I can see how easy it is for you to twist the scriptures: I suppose this is how you corner people into your Kingdom-by lying to them. The scripture doesn't say Jesus is coming in the name of someone greater than him. for someone who isn't in scripture often, may have fallen into a large pit 'by your craftiness. This is taken out the NWT Bible: This is what the Word say's: {Revelation 22:20} He that bears witness of these things says, 'Yes; I am coming quickly.'' 'Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.' Having been given all authority by God, Jesus said: His coming back-obviously coming back by His own authority. {Philippians 2:5-11} Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. When the second Person of the Trinity took on human form, something amazing occurred. Christ “made himself nothing.” What it means is that Jesus voluntarily relinquished the prerogative of freely exercising His divine attributes and subjected Himself to the will of the Father while on earth. Since Jesus died for man kind He returned back to the Father-and having been given all authority by God, this proves Jesus is coming back on His own authority-since Jesus is back in His rightful place, He is called. His rightful Name is the Word of God. The King of kings and the Lord of lords. So obviously your theory is wrong again, it doesn't say Jesus is coming back in the name of someone greater.
God destroyed faithless generation of Noah's days with flood, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, destroyed Pharaoh's army by drowning them in the sea and destroyed 185,000 Assyrians by an angel. They are gone for good and nowhere again but sustaining people alive in fire is what those demons demanded knowing fully well that it will destroy them. So when God referred to what Canaanites were doing it's obvious He is against throwing people alive in fire to be TORMENTED!
KNOWMORE56: I have to present something as I see it in the Word... This Jeremiah 7:31 is not talking about using fire as punishment by God.
But it is talking about using humans for sacrifice by/through fire....
if using fire as punishment by God never came to His mind, then the story of/about Sodom and Gomorrah is fake.
Let's check from the Word:
*. Leviticus 18:21 "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord."
*. Deuteronomy 18:10 "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch."
*. 2kings 17:17 "And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger."
*. 2kings 21:6 " And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger."
*. Jeremiah 7:31 "And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart."
*. Jeremiah 32:35 " And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech ; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
We have to know the difference between human sacrifice by fire for God and human punishment with fire by God ...
Can God punish humans with literal fire?
Let's see from the Word:
* Genesis 19:24 "Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;"
*. Luke 17:29 "But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven , and destroyed them all."
*. Matthew 25:41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"
*. 2peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up ."
The Word agrees that God can use for to punish humans...
Whoever feels he or she is more merciful than God for this His decision... No problem
sonmvayina: What do you teach or preach to people?
Welcome a free home Bible study from JWs in your neighbourhood, they will come TEACH you what we believe so if you want to help others you must first humbly listen calmly to know everything then you can work out where falsehood lies but hastily arguing blindly due to what your Babylonian Jewish landlord told you won't work. We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we always listen attentively no matter what a person believes and speak consolingly to them before we're able to reach their hearts. That's the secret!
SopaterOfBeroea: Haha > You don start to dey wake up It is well
Jesus Christ is the one and only human born by a virgin all others were fabricated fairytales from the spirit realms by demons so calm down and learn from what the Bible God's word had to say about the matter!
budaatum: Hope you know you are claiming the virgin birth of Jesus too was fabricated from somewhere that predated his so called virgin birth since his was not the first even in the Bible.
According to the Bible only Jesus was born by a virgin so calm down and learn!