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cornelboy:
E tire me o
At least make en tell us who Jehovah's father is now. I know tctrills will say Jesus

When people decides to turn their backs on the truth at least they need to enjoy the fruit of their so called freedom!

Noted, thanks!

Emusan:
You're just chasing this man for a drop of water

Haba fah....

JW for life!

cornelboy:
This one wey you de shine teeth around
The word God itself means mighty or strong one God is a title not a name. Get that into your big skull oga kola
Because Jesus was referred to as God (capitalized) doesn't mean he had the same qualities as GOD the FATHER.

The smiley covers a lot of sadistic hearts here!

Noted, thanks!

Emusan:
Do you even know simple English?

hostility on internet



How does this relate with your lies that Trinitarian are taking weapons to kill each other?



So all the soldiers in your unity not to even talk about Nigeria and entire world are TRINITARIAN who were raising weapons against another Trinitarian bah?

Talking about when lies couldn't fly anymore



Just tell me where Trinitarian are raising weapons to kill each other is what I'm asking for. All these your Mumbo jumbo doesn't count.



Did you ask him, why are JWs seek for protection from Armed Forces men?




You see how your shameless face is being exposed.

So "ALL OTHER RELIGIONS" are in the barracks yet you make it sounds as if ONLY TRINITARIAN carry weapons to kill each other



Yes which is the reason why you or any other JWs for that matter will run to them for protection.



Why didn't Jws flee from Russia and Northern part of Nigeria?



Upon all your Mumbo Jumbo, you couldn't establish where Trinitarian are taught to carry weapons and kill another Trinitarian.

You just rant for nothing

Noted, thanks!

Emusan:
The way you always do
It's not about what people say it's about what you believe and teach.
Do you believe and teach THEOCRACY the word that doesn't appear in the Bible?
You preach it
Stop lying.

Richwallet:
The Coronavirus is the common cold and the vaccine is the virus and mark of the beast.

OK thank you!

When two men (politicians) comes out saying they want to fight for the right of their people (less privileged) instead of handling them boxing gloves and taking them to the boxing ring. The less privileged will pick up weapons in support of either sides and start killing one another while those who claimed they're fighting are in the club popping champagne!

Who are the intelligent ones that's not carrying weapons against one another in support of this liars?

Well that is what intelligence truly means!

Richwallet:
Truthwords

We are in an ancient religious war. There alot of generational occult families among Blacks who desire to see a new Divine order. These people are born into Satanism and traditional Voodou type religion. They do not believe in the Bible or the Quran nor the 10 Commandments. And homosexuals are also looking to change the world order. These people all of them together satanists and perverts desire to make wickedness to be right in the sight of men. They will stop at nothing to achieve this and so you can't trust people on face value if you desire not to take the mark.

If i may ask, please what MARK?

PastorAIO:
I don’t like to shock like that. My thoughts on, and allegiance to, Christianity have evolved over the time since I first arrived to NL.

My main point of the post you responded to is that appraisals of a religion should be based on its foundational texts.

So to appraise Ifa one should consult the Odu. Similarly to appraise Protestant Christianity one must consult the bible.

As regards the tangential matter of rituals, I see that we all perform rituals, whether religious rituals, hygiene rituals, etc etc. both the theists and atheists practice rituals .

That's the simple truth!

As for the topic of discussion, the demons are everywhere and they're ready to buy over any soul with whatever such a person desires!

ifiokjohn:
would it be bad iff Muslim countries try it too? Afterall, you guys say you more 'Christian' than the Christians and you read our Bible more than we do. So you Muslims should do it ok?

The real truth of the matter is that there is no Christian or Muslim country in the world today, what we have are politicians using the books as a means of manipulating the support of their subjects.
The laws God gave the Israelites will take effect until the Messiah (Christ) arrives and when the Messiah arrives he will teach God's people holiness that will not be forced on anyone but each person will bear the truth in their hearts for salvation.
So don't mind the misinformed Muslim who thinks he knows anything about the Bible that has been his attitude ever since he came to this forum and mind you his fellow Muslims don't even recognize him as a Muslim.
We all know that where there's ORIGINAL the FAKE must also suffice so i tried to find out from him if there is a sect of Muslims who are practicing what Muhammad really taught but it's like they're all confused as he can't present any group while his own fellow Muslims say he is not even a Muslim!

PastorAIO:
Oga! It is not about punishing bad eggs. The practice of Ifa is contained in the Odu Ifa. If you want to criticise Ifa do so from the actual Odu. If you can do hire one verse where Ifa asks for human lives then I’ll agree with you.
Similarly when I accuse the Christian god yhwh of accepting human sacrifice and even asking for it I do so with an arsenal of biblical quotations where it is explicitly stated.

Wow!
So this is your viewpoint!
Please i'm sorry, i thought you're one of those misinformed Churchgoers due to your profile name "PastorAIO"

It's good to have persons like you on this forum.
The truth about rituals is the spirit behind it.
Rituals has to do with people coming together to perform rites continually. So a spirit/spirits must be involved because failure to perform such rites will attract a penalty to be paid for by the defaulter.
Only atheists who don't think of any rites having to do with people gathering together are less concerned about this.
But when talking about money rituals then we must remember that it has nothing to do with any religion, spirits are everywhere and they're desperately looking for souls to trap in exchange for whatever pleases their victim.
Some people ask for power probably to deal with whoever offends them, others seek fame, some public offices having to do with politics, and some for money.
The reason why most youths go for money rituals is because they can't think of anything else apart from flamboyant lifestyle, girls and partying.
There was rites to pay back then even among the Christians, their goal was to get ever closer to the true God and resist the spirit of the world. Paul illustrated this in the Bible book of Ephesians 6:10-18
So rituals/rites cut across all races, classes and religions!

tctrills:
The second coming of Jehovah
Zechariah 14. 1-5

Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the[b] Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.[/b]

Jesus himself declared that he came in the spirit of JEHOVAH {Luke 4:16-21} so when Jehovah said "I am coming" it's always His representative that humans will SEE! Isaiah 42:1-4 compare to Matthew 12:18-21
JESUS came in the spirit of JEHOVAH as a SERVANT of JEHOVAH upon whom JEHOVAH put his spirit!

gypsey:
well...
I am not a deep thinker,i refuse to worry my head trying to think about religion i may have being born into a religious family that doesn't mean i must be religious i can make my own choices, i am not afraid of where i will end up if i cease to live, i question everything especially the most sensitive and controversial. I am not naive, i don't go with the flow, i have my own mind, i am not afraid to make mistakes.. when anything doesn't make sense it ussually not true.
Every religion is FALSE, alot of humans are afraid of the unknown hence they seek hope and comfort in religion, so called spirits and otherwise, believes and religion are for mentally vulnerable and afraid people, believes cannot be proven.
I didn't understand this part. perhaps you should simply it for me. I am unitelligent remember?. **jokes**

What do you think?


People are in all inhabitable parts of the earth and they are being governed by their fellow humans. Sometimes people think of changing their rulers in a bid to get better hands in the offices but in most cases this often leads to chaos causing strife and people killing people.
What do you think we can do if not to stop this but at least to live our own lives without getting killed or joining in killing other people who may see things differently?

Acidosis:
The question is how many drink for medicinal reasons??

Deuteronomy 14:26

You may then spend the money on whatever you desire—cattle, sheep, goats, wine and other alcoholic beverages, and anything you please; and you will eat there before Jehovah your God and rejoice, you and your household. (NWT)

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
(Holy Bible)

Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. (NIV)


and spend the money for whatever you desire, oxen, or sheep, or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. (RSV)

Is God talking to sick people here?

gypsey:
Good! You see? We have agreed on this.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
You and i have always agreed, only one aspect we have a disagreement and it's simply because you haven't given it a deep thought.

FALSE RELIGION on it's own is bondage, waste of time and scam but the TRUTH is what you have not known.
What do you think about the human society and the way we are been governed within ourselves?

cornelboy:
You can choose whatever you want to believe.
Revelation 1:6
[6]He (Jesus) has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father.
Okay if Jesus is Jehovah, who's God his Father?

I have told this tctrills guy the undiluted truth but arrogance will not permit him to learn.
I told him that he will never find real scholars with sound mind elsewhere except among the JWs. After creating many threads with no meaningful comments coming from his cohorts he's now looking for JWs to argue.
If Jesus is his own Jehovah, let him present the worshipers of his God and their fine WORKS! James 2:18-26 compare to Matthew 7:16-18

tctrills:
Jehovah tells us that he has a father.
EXODUS 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob by the name of God Almighty, but by My name Jehovah was I not known to them.

Na wah for trinitarians o!

tctrills:
Jesus Christ the very same Jehovah of the old testament

Jesus is the light. In the Gospel of John there are a variety of words used to describe Jesus and His work. He is the Savior of the world (see John 4:42), as well as the Word (see John 1:1, 14). Jesus says that He is the light (see John 8:12), the truth (see John 14:6), and the life (see John 11:25).

When we turn to the Old Testament, we find a number of passages that identify Jehovah with light. For example, Psalm 89:15 states: “Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O Lord, in the light of thy countenance.” Other passages that have a similar content are Psalm 104:2, Isaiah 2:5, and Micah 7:8. It is interesting to see, however, that light, when used with reference to Jehovah, is often coupled with another word, a word that is used to describe Jesus in the Gospel of John. Consider the following: “The Lord [Jehovah] is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?” (Psalm 27:1; emphasis added). “For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light” (36:9; emphasis added).

Guy Jesus is the Archangel Michael!

gypsey:
Would you like to come for a fork, smoke some weed and drink whiskey with me?? Don't be shy or pretentious, forget about God and alla that shit. Let's go have fun, You have your believes i have mine! Christians go about creating enemities and divisions between humans by labelling their fellow humans atheists and claiming to be real christians than anyone else.
I am inviting you to my own believes, after you come you can still go back to your own believes no one is forcing you to continue with a fork, weed smoking and whiskey party.
We will have alot of free vaginas to fork, lots of weeds to smoke, wiskey and beers to drink.. try it you might even enjoy yourself. i will show you also how truely my time isn't precious, how I iike wasting time smoking weed, forking pussies and drinking beer. you can bring Jesus along with you i am sure he will like to join us in the party. Who knows? Jesus might even enjoy forking some vaginas and smoking weed that is if Jesus even exist.

Fun is what i have always enjoyed up till now!

Food, drinks (of all Kinds) and great sex styles i do enjoy with my wife till this very moment, i tasted weed once as a soldier just because my colleagues often take it when we're going for a tough operation but i hate it ever since then.
Sure weed often makes some of my colleagues sharper, smarter and focused back then but i think it's not good for me because it was a mess that day.
I wish you were with us that day because they have to carry me back home after the naughty stuffs i did.
So my friend i'm used to all of that even until now with the exemption of smoke, even the weed i didn't smoke it back then i boiled it with my tea but i believe it isn't good for me.

Each of the gods of the nations do have their own organized worshipers practicing what their god says, that's why (through their uniformed sacred services) we have come to distinguish between the worshipers of Sàngó, Ọya, Ọbàtálá, Ọ̀ṣẹ̀rẹ̀màgbò, Ògún and many others. So it's an insult on the true God if His own worshipers can't be recognized by their uniformed sacred acts! Micah 4:5
Whatever makes you talk and talk and talk but unable to point/present the group of people practicing what your god says simply means your god doesn't exist.
Gods are invisible, it's only through the sacred acts of their imperfect worshipers that we can know them! Matthew 7:16-18
No sane human will expect perfection from imperfect humans simply because they claim to be worshipers of a perfect God, but by careful observation of their sacred service everyone will know the God they represent!

So present the worshipers of your so called god practicing what your god wants!

tctrills:
Who was speaking in the book of Revelations?
It was Jehovah Jesus Christmas
Revelations 22. 7
7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book
Revelations 22.12
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Jesus is coming soon to Judge all men and reward us according to our works

Of course JEHOVAH will never leave His throne in heaven when he has uncountable angelic sons who can represent Him.
So when He said "i am coming" it's Archangel Michael that JEHOVAH will put HIS spirit on him to do exactly what JEHOVAH wants.
When JEHOVAH said "i'm going down to Egypt to deliver my people Israel" JEHOVAH was there not in person but by means of Moses upon whom he bestowed His spirit to act as His representative. That's why JEHOVAH could say to Moses (who still feels intimidated by the majesty of Pharaoh) "I have made you like a GOD to Pharaoh" {Exodus 7:1} meaning whatever Moses wish will happen exactly as he thought!

gypsey:
Okay.. you are right, i am not intelligent, just because you and i disagree on this topic, next time we may agree on another topic. I wonder what you would label me then. You are very good in labelling people.
You are very intelligent! I wiil not argue with you anymore i will take your advice and go chase after what exists rather than God that doesn't exist yea? There is no point wasting my precious time with you it will make not impact in what i believe.
Bye! if you don't go away this time, then i am gonna invite you for a smoke of weed, beer and fork.. that is if you are female.. either way i will still invite you.

The highlighted!
You're a straightforward person who doesn't like being deceived in the name of anything even "God", and people like you are everywhere. During the time Jesus walked the earth a man named Nathaniel is just like you.
When his brother told him
"we have found the Christ, Jesus from Nazareth"
Nathaniel said
"can anything worthwhile come out of Nazareth?" in other words he was saying "so you've been scammed (brainwashed) to have believed that anything good can come out of this our old beliefs of waiting for a Christ"
But did Jesus condemn Nathaniel for his straightforwardness?
NO! In fact Jesus commended him because there has been lots of speculations about the Christ whereas it all ended in a mess {Act 5:36-37} so Jesus was happy to welcome such a straightforward person and became his friend! John 1:45-47

So i will not condemn you neither am i going to label you "Satan" because from all indications you don't understand what is going on hence you don't know what you're doing {Luke 23:34} because if you know what Christianity truly means i'm sure this zeal you have to correct others will not allow you rest, rather you'll be going to disturb people in other to convert them to Christianity.

That's by the way. Do you even know why you are trying to help others know better even when you don't know what is wrong in this world's system?

Well it's because you were created in the image of God and it's the love you have for people that's pushing you into investing your time, energy and resources trying to help people whom you feel they're been scammed on daily bases in the name of Jesus/God!

achorladey:
Keep your self praise going. Baba
I see you looking for water from tctrills . Learn baba!

God without WITNESSES unitedly practicing what's pleasing to him!
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

gypsey:
Okay...

If i am an Atheist, i was a church goer, i was never a christian makes no difference. It's still my life. And i have chosen to become Satan and the devil now.. and oh! you also said i am not intelligent because i am an atheist, thank you! the Chinese do not worship God yet every product in your house including your rubbish bible were made by the chinese and all you worshippers of sky God do is go about disturbing peacful people like me preaching about your made up God. God that is so useless, God that cannot speak for herself humans like you always speaks for her and defend her or is it him? who knows?

I have chosen to worship the table in my kitchen as my God atleast i can see the table, sky God for some reason is hiding from people no one has ever seen the made up sky God. everyone can make up their own God, God is just an imagination, God is a believe and believe are not facts.

You win! Now go away! please!

It's not being an atheist that makes you unintelligent but wasting your PRECIOUS time, energy and resources discussing on what you said doesn't exist! The Chinese you're claiming are atheists have their own God and they're not going about arguing with anyone over the existence of God, rather they're busy doing what they know. So if you truly want to prove to be intelligent like the Chinese you won't be here arguing rather you should be out there busy doing what will benefit you and other! The Chinese have their own God and they're not forcing it on others yet people worldwide are patronizing the products made by the Chinese who believe their God is the one helping them to achieve it!

cornelboy:
Nah!!
Of course the verse ain't talking about the second coming of Christ.
But you erroneously said Jesus is same as Jehovah. The verses shows clear distinction between them.

What they failed to know is that there are many speaking in the Bible book of Revelation.

Jehovah God.
Jesus Christ.
John.
The angel sent to John.
144,000.
The four Creatures.
Babylon the Great.
The Merchandise.
And so on.
That is why calmness is required on the part of the reader before you can figure out who is who.

Simply because Jehovah said something similar to what Jesus said doesn't literally means both are the same person. It simply means both of them has been together before the creation all other things so they're so close to the extent that they both think in the same direction except on one occasion where Jesus felt somehow but he later submitted since he trusted that his father knows better than him! Luke 22:42
Apart from this occasion Jesus is ever willing to do whatever Jehovah says wholeheartedly! John 8:28-29
That's why they both have the same mindset in all things {John 10:30} that's exactly how Jesus wanted all servants of God to join him and his father in having the same line of thought! John 17:22

If course that doesn't mean millions of people having the same line of thought with Jehovah are the same person as Jehovah nah!

This often reminds me of a neighbour who always call me "JEHOVAH" even after correcting him countless times, of course it's because whatever i tell him about my God he will read it in his copy of the Bible as if i'm the author of the book! Jeremiah 31:33

cornelboy:
No common denominator bro
Bible says the one God for christians is the Father while trinitarians say they are three Gods.
Where that option de free me make i Japa e don finish?

He is battle prepared to continue arguing even when it's obvious he's not making any point that's why i often push him to a corner by asking:
Present the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're trying to teach, let us know those doing it right after all you know so much.
That's when you will see him and his cohorts insulting you and calling you names.

This case is simple. I said this is how it should be done, you said you know a better way to do it. Then let each person present those doing it the way we know.

The secret of this matter is that whoever failed to present those practicing what he is saying is indirectly saying "God's orders doesn't make any sense" because if it does you must be able to present those adhering to such orders after all God didn't create humans for laws He made laws to help humans cohabit peacefully! Mark 2:27

ifiokjohn:
hmm really

When Jesus ordered us not to support anyone aiming to rule over others most Bible readers don't get that message.
He didn't say it in words but through his action by running away from those who wanted to make him their ruler {John 6:15} now ask yourself:
if someone like Jesus becomes the president of Nigeria, do you think Nigerians will lack anything like food or sound health?
Well that's exactly what his people felt but he turned down that offer, WHY?
Because Satan is the one controlling 99% of the inhabitants of this planet so there's no way anyone can rule successfully without killing those 99% if they will not change! Luke 19:27
Today most people often look at JWs somehow because we will not recite the Anthem or pledge. These are easy traps to make you hate your fellow believers in other places, after all your allegiance is whatever those ruling your country decides. So if those ruling your country says Ghanaians are jeopardizing their program to make Nigerian great what do you think will be your next line of action? Is it not to destroy the Ghanaians? Then what happens to your fellow believers in Christ who are Ghanaians?
Will you be able to show them love the way Jesus instructed you? John 13:34-35; 15:11-13

My friend, if you truthfully want to learn about Christ Jesus and his teachings just forget about anything trinitarians are carrying in their brains. Satan initiated it to make them feel they have the knowledge of God but in reality they're completely empty! 2Timothy 3:7

Good morning!

gypsey:
okay.. you are more righteous than i am.. What does Atheist mean? This would be the 3rd time i am axking you what atheist mean you still not able to tell me what it mean.

Atheist simply means an individual who doesn't trust in the supernatural, he/she has a reason why he/she chooses not to believe (trust) in what others around him/her are saying about the supernatural.

gypsey:
Why are we debating if i was ever a good christian or not? It's my life and I chose to become satan and the devil

I'm only telling you what billions like you don't know about faith in God, you may be born in a home where they're claiming Christians with some sacred acts but that doesn't mean you really know what being a Christian means.

Please let me enlighten you about what it really means to be a Christian.

Jesus was a man born by a virgin young woman named Mary, Joseph (her spouse) wasn't responsible for her first pregnancy, both of them lived in Nazareth. Jesus grew up in their humble home with about six other children born to Joseph. Joseph taught Jesus (his foster son) carpentry since that's Joseph's job. So Jesus became a carpenter son of the carpenter in their neighbourhood! Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3

In all those times that he was practicing the Craft Joseph taught him Jesus was not known by anyone as the "CHRIST" so what exactly made him the CHRIST?
John Jesus' cousin was baptizing the Jews who accepted his prophecies and teachings since they believe he is a prophet of God, Jesus also went to John for baptism and that day was the turnaround in Jesus' life. After his baptism the spirit of God led him away into the wilderness and ever since then he never returned to his craft again. He became a preacher, teacher and miracle worker in all the territories.
He then asked his disciples "who do people say i am?" and Peter (one of his disciples) said "you are the CHRIST, son of the living God" Jesus confirmed that this response was apt. Matthew 16:13-20
So what makes a person one of the Christians?

The person must join the group practicing what Jesus laid down because it's after the inhabitants of Antioch noticed this practices that they began calling Jesus' disciples that group name "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26

This means you can't truly be a real Christian if you don't regularly join Jesus' group in their zealous preaching and industrious teaching from house to house and door to door! Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20
You must not support anyone in fighting or struggling for political positions {John 15:19, 17:14-16; 18:36} because when you do you will hate those jeopardizing your ambition in installing the person you view as the best person for the office, so if your fellow believer see matters differently he/she will instantly become your opposition {John 13:34-35} What you must preach and teach is God's Kingdom (government) that Jesus asked his disciples to keep praying for! Matthew 6:10
You must love all your neighbours as yourself {Mark 12:31} this involves preaching at the slightest opportunity to help people around you see the one and only solution to mankind's problem: God's Kingdom.
You must love a fellow believer exactly the way Jesus loves you, and that means you should be ready to loose anything (including you life) if that's the only option to save your fellow believer! John 15:11-13
You must hate what God's word says is evil, this doesn't mean you should hate the person practicing it but let the one practicing it know that the only reason why he/she can't become your friend is the bad habits.
You must not forsake the assembly of those nursing the same line of thought as you do! Hebrews 10:24-25

Now i am asking you Sir, have you been doing these things before you stopped and began claiming atheist?
Because if NO is your answer then it simply means you were one of those misinformed Churchgoers in your neighbourhood not a Christian!

tctrills:
Jesus Christ was the Jehovah of the old testament. He was the Lord that established the Sabbath among the Jews.
Mark 2:28 “Therefore the Son of man is Lord [kyrios] also of the sabbath.”

In your dreams!

gypsey:
Okay, if you say so.. who gave you the right to pass jugdement on who is really a christian and who isn't? I thought that should be God's job to judge.. you don't even understand your so called bible or religion. i am moving on now you do the same.
Good luck.

That's what all you guys claiming "atheists" supposed to do if truly you're intelligent!