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There is a lot to know about what you quoted.

First of all the God of Abraham was talking to the people He singlehandedly rescued from slavery and led them to the land He promised their ancestors (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) so He has every right to say what you quoted and that was exactly what happened to the Israelites, today the people living there aren't real Israelites but dwellers after the original inhabitants has been scattered.

What God said there has nothing to do with any religion today because God never fought physical to deliver people from slavery the same way He did for Israelites that's why Jesus never mentioned something of that nature to his disciples but confirmed it will happen to Jews occupying Judah because they were about to reject him whom God sent to them in the manner of Moses and as God told their ancestors if they should reject Jesus Christ they will loose their inheritance! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Myer:
These are very Profound questions.
God is set to reveal Himself to you.
1. You know God by seeking Him in sincerity and humility.
By asking the right questions like you're doing now and being open-hearted. He reveals himself I'm various ways, thr Bible is a documented book inspired by His Spirit.
So clearly it helps a lot. Studying the bible without Spirit of God teaching you makes it head-kniwledge which is not productive but destructive.
2. What does it mean to be a Christian?
A Christian is not a title but a nature. One who has known Christ and now talks, walks and works like Him. Ome who bears the gifts and fruit of the Spirit.
3. By studying the Word of God to Know and Do His Will. Not for ulterior motives or arguments.

You guys just love deceiving yourselves!

So someone who can't stand up to defend you when accused wrongly knows you shey?

Well Jesus knows God that's why he couldn't rest anytime he see people say something wrong about his father therefore if you can't answer sensitive questions about God it simply means you don't know God.

Dayorrrr:
brother please can you assist me with anything even 1k I will appreciate me and my kid haven't eaten any real food since yesterday may you never lack

Speak to your brothers in faith around you we don't encourage begging in my faith! Psalms 23:1

ayokashry1:
Bornagain is the deposit of the spirit of Christ in a man who acknowledges his sins, acknowledge the Lord as saviour and repents.
The thief acknowledge himself as a sinner, acknowledge the Lord as his saviour and even demonstrated his faith in God's promised kingdom and requested that Jesus should remember him. Thus, those that call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Salvation is of the Lord and whosoever he wills he saves.
I'll have mercy on whom I'll have mercy.

So how is the man's case better than that of Nicodemus who also acknowledged Jesus yet Jesus insisted that Nicodemus must be BORN AGAIN? John 3:3-5

BORN AGAIN doesn't mean acknowledgement but actions must be taken:
Must be baptized in water and anointed with God's Holy Spirit that's what Jesus taught when he mentioned BORN AGAIN not just acknowledgement! John 3:3-5

TenQ:
2Cor 12:4:
"How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."
Stop re-interpreting the Bible according to your flawed doctrines

So the word

who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say

The quotation doesn't say Paradise will be in heaven so back to the question:

Was the criminal a BORN AGAIN Christian?

Kingsnairaland:
There is no organization there never will...
. But only one name... JESUS
Acts 4:7
7 They had Peter and John brought before them and began to question them: “By what power or what name did you do this?”
10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.

So Peter and John had no organization that the Pharisees and were attacking shey?

Read your Bible again in the book of Acts the Jews were waging wars against the organization of worshipers who are preaching and teaching in Jesus name. There were other religious sects but they are all against the organization that's preaching about Jesus and God's Kingdom.

Today there are over 41,000 different religions all claiming followers of Christ but contradicting themselves so which one exactly is under attack by politicians the same way the first century Christians were attacked?

Only Jehovah's Witnesses organization!

Kingsnairaland:
Bible is clear there is no organization only Jesus and the more you refuse to accept Jesus you hurt your life.

Without organization your Jesus is FAKE!

The real Jesus promised his disciples that they will surely have spiritual families throughout the earth if they're practicing what he taught them {Mark 10:29-30} this families will always be everywhere where they go as converts who have also become disciples of Christ through the zealous preaching and industriously teaching of the gospel by Christ's disciples {Act 1:8} so without such an organization your own Jesus is DEAD, FAKE, NONE FUNCTIONAL!

tctrills:
Yes a born again man can commit sin if that is what you are asking.

tctrills:
And I said the bible did not tell if he was or not. Don't you understand my simple answer?

Was that THIEF sentenced by the Romans for the sin under Torah or a societal crime?

Guy Jesus was sentenced under the pretext that he committed SIN which the Jewish high court stated as BLASPHEMY that's why the thief could say about Jesus:

“Do you not fear God at all, now that you have received the same judgment? And we rightly so, for we are getting back what we deserve for the things we did; but this man did nothing wrong." Luke 23:40-41

According to the thief blasphemy against the Jewish tradition is not a crime under the Roman empire that's why he could say Jesus did nothing wrong. So it wasn't about sin but societal crime punishable under the constitution of any sane society!

So those thieves aren't Born Again Christians unless you can convince your own soul that armed robbers are BORN AGAIN Christians!

TenQ:
Speak to exactly what the Greek said as I did not ask you to preach

So now you know i can substantiate why the rendering that say:

"I promise you today, you will be with me in Paradise"

Is more accurate shey?

Points that nullified your argument:

*Jesus died that day.
*At death no activity.
*The man is not a Christian nor Born Again.
*Paradise is to be established on earth.

I know you will not agree but the points are sufficient enough for anyone searching for the truth so you can continue hiding under Greek words!

cornelboy:
Was the thief born again? Will he enter God's kingdom?

According to our friend he must be born again before Jesus could promise him Paradise!

When we teach them and they disagree just leave them alone and see how they will later start questioning themselves on what they could have easily gotten the answer by humbly learning from Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just imagine what i knew the first two weeks of my study with Jehovah's Witnesses:

What does it mean to know God?

Even with the clear illustration he just feel it shouldn't have come from JWs!

TenQ:
I am not speaking about the comma. Check the Greek and tell me what it says not what you want it to say.
Again, why did you swap "today" with "I say"?
Again, find attached the Greek.
This is what mistranslation of the scripture causes you. Read what the Greek says!

Guy at death Jesus was completely lifeless just like all other dead humans {Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} until God raised him from the dead {Act 3:15} so there was no way he could go anywhere on that day he died!

tctrills:
It's a foolish question because the bible never provided a list of all the people who are born again. If your Bible has such info please share it with me sir Again, are you saying that the thief went to the kingdom of God without being born again?

This is what the thief said:

“Do you not fear God at all, now that you have received the same judgment? And we rightly so, for we are getting back what we deserve for the things we did; but this man did nothing wrong.” Luke 23:40-4

From your own understanding of the above is it possible for a Born Again Christian to be an armed robber?

Because the two guys in question were sentenced on gross criminal acts!

cornelboy:
This guys is just running helter-skelter 😂

He just like running away from the truth with excuses but i have learned to always leave him anytime i notice he's running!

tctrills:
First, the bible never stated if he was baptized or not so how would I know. How do you know he was never baptized or is this your guesswork again?
Also, according to you, which of the kingdoms of God did Jesus Christ promise the thief? Was it the Jewish kingdom or the gentile Kingdom.
Lastly what happens to gentiles who are poor in spirit? Which kingdom would they find themselves.

I asked you is the thief born again?

Expanse2020:
can you give me another fact because what you produce here doesn't talk about One entity here

What he's trying to do is trolling my comment but he doesn't have anything to contribute that's why he can't talk straight.

Michael is the name of the angel whose life was transformed into an embryo to be born as Jesus but since his birth on planet earth we can't call him the name he never bear among humans so the name given is JESUS what we are saying is that if we want to trace his origin he was the angel known as Michael.

That's the import of the comparisons you are quoting in my comment!

justmondris:
You are still missing my point. It's true that if you are a friend of Jesus, you are a friend of God but you don't need to be a preacher to be a friend of Jesus. What you are saying in summary is that only preachers will make heaven because that's the only criteria to become the friend of Jesus. This is very very wrong.

You can't be Jesus' friend without becoming one of his disciples:

And one of the rulers questioned him, saying: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and your mother.’” Then he said: “All of these I have kept from youth on.” After hearing that, Jesus said to him, “There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” Luke 18:18-23

You can't enter God's kingdom if you're not a preacher and teacher of God's word that's what becoming one of Jesus' disciples means.

PASTORS are THIEVES!
Jesus never gave any of his disciples the right to go about with religious titles {Matthew 23:8-10} we are all brothers and sisters in God's organization.
All disciples of Jesus Christ are simple men and women in your neighbourhood organized to preach and teach in that territory so just as no one can serve the God of Israel in ancient times without paying tithes the same applies in Christianity you can't be a Christian without devoting time for preaching and teaching along with other disciples of Christ that's the one and only way to prove that you're Christ's friend and paying your tithe directly to our High Priest: Christ Jesus.

We are known today as Jehovah's Witnesses and the zealous preaching and industriously teaching is the command Jesus gave all of us so whoever fails to participate in this activity cannot be a friend of our God or friend of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

MadeINchenzen2:
Is heaven and hell real, if they are kindly explain how you know that?
Who wrote the holy books, under what circumstances did they get inspiration to write it. Are these holy books fictional or non fictional
Where does God live?
Who has seen Jesus Christ, Are these images on the internet the true pictures of Jesus?
What makes the devil bad?
The holy book teaches us forgiveness, why did God not forgive Adam and eve after they disobeyed him in the garden of Eden. Why did God not forgive the devil too.
Whats the location of the kingdom of God.
What's the difference between the mind, soul and spirit...
I'm here to learn. Thanks

You need a free home Bible study with Jesus' real disciples: Jehovah's Witnesses

I am one of them, you can't find answers to all these questions on faceless forum like this but i will answer two out of your questions so pick the most important two and get your Bible ready!

MindHacker9009:
God made Nebuchadnezzar to destroy his astrologers and God did not make them to escape. So it was satan that warned the astrologers to escape from Herod by another route. And because the True God of the OT did not get another man's pregnant was the reason satan was able to send the magi to where satan invented the story of Jesus christ as it is those who truly want to server the True God are the ones suffering in the hands of satan's agents who know the story of Jesus christ is an invention by satan through the Roman empire.

OK i get you now you're just out to troll please enjoy the rest of the weekend!

Kingsnairaland:
There is no subject greater than Jesus name
Jesus is the foundation the chief corner stone
There is no other name that can save you
There is no organization in the bible and organization can't save you from devil
In book of acts they asked those who follow Jesus what name and power do they use in doing the things of the spirit
Guess what their answer is.?

Without organization your Jesus is FAKE!

liveyourlife007:
I understand. I believe anyone God kills deserves death

All humans deserves death that's what God's word says:

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

So long life only suspends it!

Expanse2020:
Did you have anything to contribute on the topic

I told you that he's a disguised atheist he can't make any meaningful contribution that's why i always ignore him!

liveyourlife007:
Who did God kill? Cos I'm confused why you're comparing Him to a killer

I used the case to help readers know how sensitive that question is.

Most religionists do believe that God kills that's why they often say God gives and takes when someone dies as if God kills.

icemania:
It means that Jesus has a God!
So I wonder, why do you worship him?

That's why Jesus said they need to know God and Jesus before they can have everlasting life {John 17:3} because worshiping Jesus as God means the worshiper doesn't know Jesus nor God.

All you need is give them scriptural backing and leave whoever doesn't agree with his or her problem.

According to God's word the one and only time heavenly creatures came to have sexual relations with human they were attracted to females {Genesis 6:1-3} that's what led to their disengagement and they became demons! 2Peter 2:4

MindHacker9009:
But how come the astrologers were warned in a dream not to return to Herod and they withdrew to their country by another route. But were not warned not to go to Herold on their way to see the baby Jesus christ?

They have been practicing astrology all their life not knowing that it's a crime before God so when Satan decided to use them God didn't intervene until Herod began planning to kill the baby. Remember God didn't warn Nebuchadnezzar not to build the image neither did God warned him not to kill people who refused to bow to the image but when he decided to kill God's servants Michael stepped in to stop the fire.

So those astrologers are Nebuchadnezzar's people but they're innocent of what Satan wants to use them for that's why God warned them!

tctrills:
Matthew 5 has nothing to do with revelations 20.5-6. You are making strange nonexistent connections.
And in God's kingdom, the Jews and gentiles are one. They have the same hope.
Still this does not make Jesus a liar. If you are not born again, you can't be in his kingdom, you can't be in his kingdom on earth or his kingdom in heaven or in any other planet. He actually made himself clear. He never said you need to be born again to enter a kingdom in heaven but not on earth.

So was the thief BORN AGAIN? Luke 23:40-43

Remember he was never baptized in water nor with holy spirit {John 3:3-5} are you saying Jesus lied to that man?

justmondris:
You don't need to be a preacher or pastor to be a friend of God. alot of people that do this are even enemies of God. Abraham was called friend of God in the bible but he was never a preacher. Jesus is more than a friend of God. He is a son of God.
Let me drop some bible verses for you to read and understand:
1: James 2:23, “And the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God.”
2: James 4:4
4You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

Hmmmmmmm you're missing a lot my friend.

God choose Abraham out of all the people of his time so are you saying all others are evil?

NO! There is a reason why God chose Abraham as friend.

But after Jesus whoever wants to become a friend of God must first become a friend of Jesus and to become Jesus' friend you must be a preacher and teacher of God's word.

That's what being his disciple mean!

Zenderr:
Brethren with the rate of things happening, I came up with this question of why do we go to church.

The word CHURCH according to God's word is not a building or worship center rather it is the gathering of Worshipers so if more than two or three persons are worshiping in the street, garage, car, bus, train or plane they are the church not where the gather.

So why do Christians gather?

And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:24-25

Points to take home:

*Consider fellow believers as to incite to love and fine works.
*Continue meeting together.
*Encouraging one another.
*To escape the impending destruction of evildoers.

It's the same language we are speaking today God only confused Adams descendants as they don't want to move to all the parts of the earth. When God's kingdom comes they only thing that will make us remember that we had issues before the coming of God's kingdom is our dressings and delicacies due to difference in geographical locations but our language will miraculously return to one again! Zephaniah 3:9

justmondris:
Knowing someone does not mean you know everything about them 100%. Only God knows everyone 100% and there are somethings you don't even know about yourself.

Did i say you have to know EVERYTHING?

Come on a friend of God must be a preacher and teacher of God's word that's what Jesus is making of those that become his disciples {Matthew 28:18-20} so if you can't answer all the questions that the answers are in the Bible regarding God and Jesus then your salvation is not certain that's what Jesus meant at John 17:3
You must be a fully competent and completely equiped preacher and teacher of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

tctrills:
Matthew 5 said nothing about the first or second group to be resurrected. I guess you are using a different kind of bible. Matthew 5 did not even talk about resurrection.
Also, Jesus Christ speaks in parable but not in dishonesty. If he says you can't enter the kingdom of God without being born again, let me and you believe him. He does not lie.

First and Second resurrection! Revelations 20:5-6

God's Kingdom Jesus talked about among the Jews is the first family that will rule with him so most of his words to the Jews is about those who are going to rule with him in heaven it's his disciples that will go and preach to other nations about everlasting life on planet earth.

That's why he clearly stated that some will go to heaven {Matthew 5:3} while others will live on planet earth! Matthew 5:5

My friend you are really looking for trouble in the hands of these people because they hate the truth as long as it's coming from one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
So instead of arguing with them just keep the facts and present it before anyone who is willing to listen and know that Jesus is the same Archangel Michael.

May you have PEACE!

Expanse2020:
You don't need to abuse me just state the fact to claim archangel Michael and Jesus are the same person or different entities

*Jesus is the Son of God SENT to the world. John 3:16

*Angels are God's Sons SENT on errands.

*Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15

*Angels are the first creatures God created. Job 38:7

*Jesus is the commander in chief of all heavenly armies {Matthew 25:31} just as Michael is the head of all the angels! Revelations 12:7

*Jesus always stand for the salvation of God's people {John 3:16-17} the same thing Michael always do! Daniel 12:1

*Jesus is the only person who orders Satan (another powerful angel) around {Matthew 4:10} exactly what only Michael could do! Jude 9 compare to Revelations 12:7-9

So most Bible scholars checked all these and kicked against the TRINITY doctrine but trinitarians insisted that Jesus is God Almighty instead of the son SENT by GOD!