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bobestman:
Lol in Reincarnation you have no knowledge of who you are in the past unless it is revealed to you or a priest tell you. John has no knowledge of it but the messiah a great priest said it. He didn't compare anything but stated it clearly. And if you watch clearly John and Elijah walked in the same path for in reincarnation it is same path and spirit. I can't convince you ppl but can only help you know what is hidden from you all

So a prophet of God like John who knew the word of God doesn't know he was Elijah in his past life shey?

Kingsnairaland:
It does not matter what it means what matters is that he wanted to know if it in Torah as if everything must be in Torah and I still found out where it is in Torah to calm him down.

Does being buried alive means the person is still living under the ground?

Kingsnairaland:
The body of Christ understands the things of God we follow Jesus teachings it in the New Testament Bible
The ten commandments of Jesus which he amplified are in the New Testament Bible and the new commandment of Jesus are in the new testament Bible
All born again children of God obey God's principles because the holy spirit lives inside us.

Do you even know the importance of laws or commandments?

As long as you people are still been influenced by politicians to raise weapons against one another the commandments of your god is useless!

jaephoenix:
… and he proves once again that actually he lacks CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS. Lol 😆
1. Why must we worship any being? Is there any importance attached to it?

YES!

Without a supreme being there can't be peace in the society and that is what you and your children need: PEACE!

Aemmyjah:
I love your illustrations sir

It's just the usual things you guys taught me in your midst!

Aemmyjah:
Let FRANCISTOWN lie against John the Baptist

The halfbaked knowledge he trashed is what he wants to use now against the truth!

bobestman:
What happened to Ejijah, Enoch etc is Immortality. They recieved the gift of which is the only way you can meet God.

As descendants of Adam no human qualifies to receive immorality:

None of (humans) can ever redeem a brother Or give to God a ransom for him, (The ransom price for their life is so precious That it is always beyond their reach); That he should live forever and not see the pit.  He sees that even wise people die; The stupid and the unreasoning perish together, And they must leave their wealth to others. Their inner wish is that their houses will last forever, Their tents to generation after generation. They have named their estates after themselves. But man, although honored, will not remain; He is no better than the beasts that perish Psalms 49:7-12

So no human is qualified for immortality no matter how good, nice or religious they can be that's why mankind needs a MESSIAH or one who has been anointed to redeem us!

Aemmyjah:
1. Show us interlinking fossils na... You are Olodo and know nothing about science. Quote one scientist, even a fake scientist that says evolution can cause complexity
2. Ask Google. Stupid question
3. I molest children? You are a fool
4. The Hebrew word for circle can also be rendered as sphere. You said Bible says earth is flat. Drop evidence
5.
6. Artificial atoms made themselves shey?
Fake doctor with no intelligence

One thing that's peculiar to all those claiming atheist is lack of CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.

When i said this some of them quickly rush to say a believer in God lacks CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS simply because there's no physical evidence of GOD so an atheist will conclude that failure to CRITICIZE the concept of GOD is lack of CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.

But the truth is that your eagerness to criticize something doesn't make you intelligent because it's not just about CRITICISM but the ability to THINK and SKILLFULLY handle sensitive matters affecting intelligent beings like you.

So ask an atheist to present what only atheists could do that no religionist can do they will tell you that they're criticizing the concept of GOD which has brought no practical benefits for anyone but an organization of people who believes in God has SUCCESSFULLY ERASED THE MAKING, BUYING, SELLING AND USAGE OF WEAPONS TO KILL THEIR FELLOW HUMANS IN THE HEARTS OF MILLIONS OF INTELLIGENT BEINGS LIVING IN DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS ON THIS PLANET something no organization of critical thinkers could achieve in the next century!

So who truly lacks CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS?

tctrills:
In the book of John 17.3, we learn, And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
If eternal life is the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ, then what does it mean to know God.
Do you know God from reading your Bible?
Do you know God by being a Christian?
How does on get to know God?

During the investigation of Mohbad's death if the police ask you:

"Do you know Naira Marley?"

What will be your response?
YES! or NO!

You need to know why this is a sensitive question because saying "YES" will mean that if you're asked to tell where Naira Marley lives, what he likes, what he detests, how he often reacts to matters, where he loves going and his friends you should be able to give necessary details failure to do so will be taken as trying to hide sensitive information.

So apply the same to knowing God and Jesus!

FRANCISTOWN:
@MaxInDHouse
I'll be speaking according to the bible.
John the Baptist was infact the reincarnation of Elijah.

Let's hear from the horses mouth!

This is the witness John gave when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him: “Who are you?” And he admitted it and did not deny it, saying: “I am not the Christ.” And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “NO" John 1:19-21

John the baptist declared that he is NOT Elijah so if Jesus use comparisons regarding the manner of person John was that doesn't literally mean John was Elijah!

FRANCISTOWN:
Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah didn't die. So their case is different.

They all died before the next generation after their lifetime and they are all in their graves till today. Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah are part of Adam's descendants that INHERITED SIN and DEATH from Adam so they can't live twice.

As for those resurrected they never lived twice going by your thinking because their age never reduced rather they continue living right from the age they died before they were miraculously brought back to life so it is still once they lived not twice.

Take for instance someone who went into a comma and has been considered dead clinically if by any chance he is revived does he start all over from childhood?
NO!
So as long as they continued growing older till they died means they only lived once not twice!

cornelboy:
God will never be behind the kind of madman's tongues you guys say today.
Acts 2:6-11
[6]Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[7]And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[8]And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[9]Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[10]Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[11]Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
This how tongue ought to be. You don't have to understand it yourself but it's a meaningful language from somewhere.
Not shicrabobodidilasgido you guys are chanting today.

In later times God's Holy Spirit enabled some in the congregation to reveal sacred secrets in strange language that's not understood by anyone but at the same time someone in the congregation will be given the interpretation so that what was spoken in secret could become known to those taking the lead in the congregation but when some began using this to make shows Paul warned them that there should be a reason before God's Holy Spirit could enable someone in the congregation to speak in such strange tongue so if anyone wants to do it without edification of the whole congregation let them do it in their private rooms not disrupting the peace in the congregation with the gibberish they're spewing:

"For the one who speaks in a tongue speaks, not to men, but to God, for no one listens, but he speaks sacred secrets by the spirit. However, the one who prophesies builds up and encourages and consoles men by his speech. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up a congregation. Now I would like for all of you to speak in tongues, but I prefer that you prophesy. Indeed, the one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the congregation may be built up. But at this time, brothers, if I should come speaking to you in tongues, what good would I do you unless I spoke to you either with a revelation or with knowledge or with a prophecy or with a teaching?" 1 Corinthians 14:2-6

Explore2xmore:
I testify and believe that there is no god but Allah.

Apart from the usual mimicking of the above statement from different people claiming Muslims what exactly are you testifying to?

Well i was once like you before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses the dogmatic credulity is not worthwhile because the so called Allah you want to testify is just the word in the mouth of an Arabian that's all there is no single evidence that there is any god called Allah.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and the supreme supposed to ORGANIZE those in his or her domain so if people are DISORGANIZED to point of killing one another yet calling on the same Allah to support them in killing one another then your Allah is just a dogma and nothing more:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 2 Timothy 3:1-5

The highlighted in blue is why i abandoned Islam because you people are like other religions claiming you have a god in your midst but the way you follow politics to exterminate one another shows there is no god at all in your gathering you're just deluded!

Kingsnairaland:
First of all strange words Bible was talking about is not for other people it is the holy spirit that gives you the ability so that your spirit can be built up to be able to withstand attacks from devils And it is a communication with only you and God it is a higher dimension to relate with God But when ever a man of God says it in church the next English words from his mouth will be the interpretation of the strange words So that the church will understand and be edified.

There is no edification when you people keeps contradicting yourselves so the spirit you're talking about is demonic {1Corinthians 14:33} to be edified as one body means you all think, speak and act in harmony regarding sacred service not when all of you are facing different directions and you're expecting a right thinking person to see you as something worth emulating!

EsotericTemple:
I will write an article about this topic soon. "The True Nature of Evil: How Financial Hardship Can Lead to Moral Decay" to know more.

You don't need to write anything since your existence is meaningless the only reason why you can be considered is when you prove that your existence has a purpose but in the absence of purpose there's nothing to learn from a purposeless being.

Goodbye!

Kingsnairaland:
You are very lost because when Jesus even talked about families he actually said you must hate them before you can be able to work for me. He was saying you will hate them to be able to follow me to any place I take you
You must love Jesus even more than your family
Max you don't know Bible
The church of God is not an organization it is the body of Christ and we are in various places on earth and Jesus is our head because he is every where.

Ọmọ you're just a novice in this matter because in the absence of orderliness and organization your Jesus is useless.

The real Jesus promised that his own disciples will form a global family of peace so that they will see one another as brothers and sisters so if you can't present any organized people doing this then your Jesus is FAKE! Matthew 7:21-23

Kingsnairaland:
You say this things because you don't know Bible very well
Jesus talked about whom to fear when he said only God can destroy the complete man and that body and soul can be put in hell obviously he was was talking about the new body which he will give to all men so that they will stand and receive judgment

This is where you need help because there is no judgement after destruction death is the wages of sin {Romans 6:23} so when people die they have fully paid for their sins! Romans 6:7

Kingsnairaland:
Now also
Bible shows that abel blood was crying and Bible shows that the spirit is in the blood
So even after physical death abel spirit was still speaking his spirit did not not die

Abel's blood crying simply means the untimely death of that righteous man is displeasing to God not that his blood was literally talking!

Kingsnairaland:
Now Bible also shows those who died doing the work of God there souls were also crying asking for revenge from God
This shows the soul and the spirit don't die after death
So try to know Bible before you argue with the one who God sent to teach his word.

Guy the Bible says Adam will die and that's exactly what happened to Adam till today he is gone for good the same applies to all the dead nothing survives man at death he completely cease to exist! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10
Whether soul or spirit it has a totally different meaning from what you're cooking up here DEATH is the wages of sin {Romans 6:23} and at death man has fully paid for his sin! Romans 6:7

Kingsnairaland:
My friend stop saying things that are not complete in the bible you will see some are
in grave
in sea
In hell or fiery hell or hell fire
In sheol
In hades
In four corners of the earth
In various places and states which they will all come out from to receive their judgment that is why Jesus actually called physical death sleep

Below shows in Torah where bad people go

Numbers 16:33
So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly

Sheol simply means Grave so it means those people were buried alive!

Kingsnairaland:
Until you believe in Jesus and receive the gift Jesus said you will get before you can know the things we talk about

If you refuse to believe in Jesus then you will think it is feel good and console

The things we say are real I am a witness to it and I know what I say.

Guy there is no WE if you people aren't ORGANIZED it's simply means you're all deluded, if you people understand one another that's when you can make impact not when you're spewing gibberish!

Kingsnairaland:
It does not matter
God said with strange words and language will I speak to this people and yet they will still not understand me.

You lie a lot!

If God is speaking with strange language that nobody understands then what is the purpose of the one speaking?

Guy language is for communication so if one speaks there must be an interpreter to help get the meaning otherwise there's no message passed so it's useless!

Kingsnairaland:
My friend you don't know English better go study English
That place you wrote
Jesus is actually saying that no one who have left his family will not be rewarded in this earth and in heaven
Jesus was advising his men to spread out and preach his salvation his love to teach people about the holy spirit Jesus said the holy spirit is just like me he will be living inside those who believe in me
Jesus told them even if they live there family members and go to different places and preach Jesus is hinting to them that he will take care of their families and also reward them
Go read it very well
Jesus said no one who left this things will not be rewarded
So which organization did you see there
Is family members now organizations lol
My friend you are lost or don't know English or confused
There is no organization in the bible
Only body of Christ and Jesus himself is our head.

Obviously you don't know the meaning of that word "FAMILY"

A family is an ORGANIZED PEOPLE with the head of such a family making sure that there is ORDERLINESS in the FAMILY.
So if you can't present something of that nature then the head of your family is useless it simply means there's no head in your family to ORGANIZE you people!

Kingsnairaland:
Now the first thing to understand is what Bible said about death
Now Bible shows that man is a
Soul
Body
Spirit

People need something for recognition that's the purpose of your BODY

Each person has his or her own mind which is why we think and act differently that's what the SOUL means

The energy that sustains our breathing keeps us alive that's the SPIRIT in all creatures.

At death all these three becomes useless as you can't make anything out of them again.

That's what the Bible teach!

Bluezy13:
So you really believed the fairytale?

So your existence is meaningless?

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment
Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.
Where was Elijah said to have come?
Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.
Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,MaxInDHouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Humans are products of reproduction just like in all other creatures {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} so when a person dies he or she has returned to non-existence completely {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} the one and only hope for humans is what is recorded in the Bible book of Job 14:13-15:

O that in the Grave you would conceal me, That you would hide me until your anger passes by, That you would set a time limit for me and remember me! If a man dies, can he live again? I will wait all the days of my compulsory service Until my relief comes. You will call, and I will answer you. You will long for the work of your hands.

God created humans with the ability to reason and improve on the condition of his environment {Genesis 1:26} and that is the reason why God made man so after Adamic sin led to man's inability to continue living {Romans 5:12} God decided to give innocent descendants of Adam the opportunity to come back to life so as to continue doing what they were created for {John 5:28-29} of course only those that live up to expectations like job will be remembered {Job 14:15} as for those that chose to be useless regarding God's purpose (will) they will be left forever in their inactive state at death! Psalms 9:17

So when Jesus said Elijah has returned in person of John the baptist he was talking about a prophet God said will be like Elijah in manner but not Elijah {John 1:21} because it's only one a human has the opportunity to prove if he is worthy of resurrection or not! Hebrews 9:27

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

jaephoenix:
Max, are you sure you can be mentioned in the same sentence as critical thinking skills? Even typing the words woulda made some of your brain cells shudder and shriek with exertion. Lol 😆

Ọmọ you don't know the meaning of CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS all you just do here is sit back and watch others define words for you then start compelling people to agree with the definition given.

CRITICAL: incline to find fault or criticize

THINKING: what is going on in the mind of a person

SKILL: capacity to do something well.

Do atheists have CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS?

Let's analyze it. Atheism teaches that there is no supreme being therefore you guys feel there's no reason for humans to gather for the purpose of worship which somehow sounds logical but at the same time mankind needs guidance on how we can cohabit peacefully if we must continue living on this planet without self-destruction, without the thought of a being who is supreme each human wakes up thinking of how to dominate others which leads to the survival of the fittest so instead of making the best use of what we have to make life enjoyable for us all 50% of our time, energy and resources is reserved for the making of destructive devices and training of personnels to use these destructive devices.
This is why people are being killed on daily basis and atheism can't do anything about it other than supporting the idea of getting the most destructive weapons to fortify the fittest but then an organization emerged with the idea of a SUPREME BEING (which atheists are opposed to) and within members of this organization they're able to erase the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices only to result to agricultural revolution which mankind truly need.
Please as a sane person between this group of self acclaimed atheists and the organization achieving what mankind needed who truly lacks CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS?

As long as you can't find fault in something and you keep assuming it's needless yet you're unable to achieve what is needed then you lack CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS!

Dada4me:
Now I get where you're coming from, good night.

It's about what the scriptures mandated for believers against what people feel is necessary due to hearing that others in Bible times did it.

I was once a Muslim the one and only reason Muslims are doing this is because they heard it was done by servants of God in ancient times but the reasonableness in this practice is never stated so people just feel they must starve themselves because they heard it was common practice in ancient times.

Now back to the topic of this thread:

You can only get needed help to do what God require but when there's no specific guidelines on what you're asking then you have to go on doing it perfunctorily.

May you have PEACE.

Aemmyjah:
Who are obeying Jesus commission and known for their active preaching and disciple-making work? You need not answer

He's not interested in knowing such things it's whatever Kumuyi says that's important to him!

EsotericTemple:
The Lack Of Money Is The Root Of All Evil

How much did Abel have that made Cain kill him?

capnies:
IF THIS IS POSSIBLE AMONG JWS THEN THE PERCENTAGE IN PENTECOSTAL AND CATHOLIC CHURCHES WILL BE OVER 80%

Please have you heard or seen this among the Jehovah's Witnesses in your area?

Well the one and only way to scare people from Jesus' disciples is by telling you things that's horrible {Matthew 5:11-12} but instead of swallowing their stories hook line and sinker just make sure you find out one instance in your own neighbourhood {1Thessalonians 5:21} it's OK if someone told me something but it's a crime before God if i should pass the information to others without verification! Exodus 23:1-2

May you have PEACE!

Dada4me:
Jesus Himself fasted in Matthew chapter 4 by abstaining from food and He did it as example for us.

NO, Jesus didn't set fasting as example for his disciples!
If you doubt it then answer the following questions:

Where are we to fast, in the house or wilderness?
Are we to decide on our own or led by God's Holy Spirit?
When is the right time to break such fasting?
Did Jesus prescribed fasting for his disciples in details?

Whatever Jesus wants us to imitate will be clearly stated not what happened to him once in his lifetime but wasn't repeated for emphasis sake.

Jesus never intended to fast because after those days the Bible recorded that he became hungry which supposed not to be if it was intentional!

Dada4me:
What of Matthew 17:20-21?

How will you feel if i tell you that Matthew chapter 17 has no verse 21?

The original writing has no chapters or verses it was later divided into chapters and verses by scholars for easy quoting for references so in the process of doing so some overzealous scholars imputed what was added in verse 21.

But if you're truly interested in knowing the truth check verse 21 in other versions of the Bible like the Revised Standard Version, Jerusalem Bible, American Standard Version, NIV and so on the only version where verse 21 appears in Matthew 17 is the KJV.

AyobamiIsaac12:
Ignore this one too

He will jare, he surely will!