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cornelboy:
Yeah that's right. I'm waiting for my own instantaneous change 😂😂

When i told him that he's still practicing his former religion and not a real atheist he calls me names now he wants to tell people that he became an atheist all of a sudden but he wants to convince others to join him in atheism through his incessant arguments, haba what is the difference between him and the Churchgoers who always tell people to accept their Jesus without understanding?
Is it not the same system?
They will tell you a spirit/God/Jesus spoke to them so they became his worshiper but they can't wait for the same thing to happen to others!

Kingsnairaland:
Acts 13 2
ESV
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”
NIV
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them. '

Correction it not an it.......
He is a person he is a he
.

The holy spirit also is called the spirit of truth
He is a person as Jesus said when he.... Jesus did not not say when it.....

John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

When he comes to you he is God so he brings everything according to the power that you can withhold

He brings to you the fruit of the spirit which we have talked about before.

The most vital thing he gives you is eternal life.

Just present the fine WORKS of Mr Holy Spirit in the midst of those hearing HIM today that's all!

FRANCISTOWN:
I've said it several times on this forum that the said man called yehoshua/Yeshua/Yoshua or Jesus never walked on the surface of the earth.

Atheists and madness nah 5 & 6 walahi talahi!

If you don't believe Jesus existed then how come you want to argue about what the book said nah?

FRANCISTOWN:
The words were not supposed to be a parable. Everytime a parable was introduced in the bible. The author would always go like "The parable of....". You didn't know, now you know. Mind you, it was not Jesus talking in Rev 1:7. It was John. You always try to wriggle your way out whenever you are pinned to a corner, but this time around, you are a ganna

John only further stressed what Matthew said, all the tribes of man shall see the son of man coming on the clouds.

They shall see HIM, HIM, HIM not his sign. Do you need a laying of hands to understand that?

Ọmọ nah Jesus dey talk all these things not John but since you already made up your mind it will take a miracle to convince you.
Jesus has always referred to himself as the son of man and when talking he will not say "when i comes" rather it has always been "when he comes" as if he's talking about someone else:

"And HE will send out HIS angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather HIS chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity" Matthew 24:31

Abeg who made the above statement?

FRANCISTOWN:
Also at the emboldened. There is no place that the bible ever says that Jesus is a spirit. The bible says he came in flesh and blood , he ascended in flesh and blood ,and so he must return in flesh and blood.

2 John verse 7 For many deceivers have entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist..
The same statement repeated in 1John4:3 verbatim
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is not of God; and such is the spirit of Antichrist,
Jesus ascended into heavens in flesh and blood, not in the spirit, according to you guys' bible.
Again, the bible verses say Jesus will return on the clouds and every tribe of the world will see him. Simple enough to comprehend for anyone who understands simple English.

Did i say Jesus come in the spirit or that he became a spirit after his resurrection?

So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving SPIRIT. 1Corinthians 15:45

Perhaps this verse disappeared in your copy of the Bible!

Every tribe of the earth will see someone when he is coming yet the earth will remain spherical or perhaps the earth will turn flat!

jaephoenix:
Once in a while, read through your posts and check if they make sense.
How does multiple denominations depict the deity of Jesus?
And are you even aware those guys have been proven to be myths and nothing else(by history), yet to say they exist, including your favorite sky daddy

Who proved they never existed?

Continue deceiving yourself!

OLAADEGBU:
Over the bar.

Over the bar even though the group achieved what God promised! Isaiah 2:2-4

Ọmọ you need help!

Kingsnairaland:
I understand all things including spiritual things
You don't understand it that why you think the kingdom of God is a physical temple or physical church or kingdom hall
So if I show you where the holy spirit spoke in the Bible what will you now say.

God's Holy Spirit never spoke literally to anyone it's through discernment but since you feel it must speak to you then present the fine WORKS that resulted from hearing the voice of such a spirit.

cornelboy:
You can tell that to a baby.
It's definitely a process. Even if you didn't meet any atheist person to person, you probably had access to their materials on the internet.
You can't just change one night.

You could have told him to go and rest since his own change happened suddenly he should wait for others to abandon their religion abruptly without all his arguments!

Martinez39s:
Okay.
Wait o. Are you OtemAtum?

Is he/she one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

HellVictorinho6:
sadistic 2 you
we die here

Go and die if life don tire you o we still dey enjoy our own!

FRANCISTOWN:
If you changed your course and you hear someone stating a wrong definition from your previous course, won't you set the person straight?

This is not about course it's you not knowing what faith is all about so you DROPPED OUT that's why you can't set anything straight since you don't understand in the first place.
You quoted Revelations 1:7 where Jesus talked in idioms and instead of asking for meaning you're applying your former teaching which was wrong.

"Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen." Revelations 1:7

The highlighted is evidence that the statement is not to be taken literally.
Are those who pierced Jesus still alive so that they can see him return?

This is where he said the same thing for his disciples who aren't born again to grasp idioms:

"Then the SIGN of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" Matthew 24:30

So it's the SIGN of his presence that the whole world will see humans can't see spirit creatures and to make it clearer now that you feel you're a scientist can people throughout the earth see someone at the same time with the shape of the earth that's spherical?

Ọmọ when you want to chat me ask questions not just jumping into discussions using your former understanding that you now discovered is senseless to argue blindly.

Martinez39s:
The presence of the worshippers of a supposed diety does not prove the existence of the diety. People can be deluded, brainwashed, and indoctrinated to worship a nonexistent being or human.

Zeus, Poseidon, Hercules, Ahura Mazda, Sango, Amadioha, Ogun, Jesus, Allah, Eze Nwanyi etc. never existed as claimed by their ardent followers and, where applicable, holy scriptures. Go figure.

Guy, they all existed but they're not fit to last because they're all fallen angels, they have transformed into something else deceiving their worshipers that they're now Jesus that's why you're seeing thousands of different religions all claiming worshipers of Jesus with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

HellVictorinho6:
Weyrey
did i beg u to stop calling me a beggar?
Which useless connection are u talking about?
I refuse!
U wan kidnap me , dey whine ur mama!
Nonsense!
I gat nothing 2 offer u
My lines pass u
U cant understand them
Ur fellow weyreys cant interprete them
Mtchewwww

Continue your sadistic lifestyle but stop quoting me if you don't want to be called a beggar!

It would have made sense if you believe in any of these things but since you don't even believe that God exist there's no reason wasting my precious time on you!

https://www.nairaland.com/7722262/win-90k-believing-god-no
https://www.nairaland.com/7671678/nobody-should-talk-god-again#122835259
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FRANCISTOWN:
@ Sand2022
You get time dey mind JW people. People wey dey read their bible like Arabic, from the back to the front and from the right hand side to the Left handside.

The bible clearly states in Rev 1:7 that "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

That bible verse says every eye shall see him not some eyes, and every family of the world shall cry because of him.

JWs always interprete the bible like they were homeschooled by cockroaches.

Did the Jewish community know that Jesus was resurrected three days after his execution?
Did anyone apart from his faithful disciples see him afterwards?
During his departure did faithless Jews knew that the Jesus they killed is traveling to heaven?
The single answer to these questions is NO!

Only his FRIENDS who has been faithful to him saw him departed from planet earth that's why millions of Jews today don't believe that Jesus is the Christ as they thought he ended his life on the torture stake and was never seen again till today.
So in the same manner only faithful people will discern that a mighty spirit king is here today!

After Jesus' silent departure his disciples were sure that Jesus is no longer dead in the grave but has returned to his home as a mighty spirit but can they go about speaking boldly about the resurrection of the dead as God's word promised? Job 14:13-15

NO!
Because they have no evidence other than what they saw that's why they continue meeting secretly for several days until what Jesus promised them happened, God's Holy Spirit came down from heaven and they were all baptized (anointed) with God's Holy Spirit just as Jesus had said {Act 1:8} that was when all their fears disappeared because God's Holy Spirit began working with them to perform SIGNS which was promised by a long time prophet called "Joel" Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 2:28-30

So if Jehovah's Witnesses are saying Jesus who was executed thousands of years ago is around today since 1914 instead of arguing with them why not look out for the evidence of his presence?

Whenever his rule will start he must send Satan and other demons out of heaven {Revelations 12:7-12 compare to Psalms 110:1-2} and after Satan has been sent away from heaven with his angels the earth will begin to feel the heat {Matthew 24:7} faithful servants of God will be persecuted throughout the earth {Matthew 24:9} Jehovah's Witnesses have faced fierce opposition from different rulers due to their faith, rulers like Adolf Hitler of Germany in the early twentieth century and many others until our own time like Vladimir Putin of Russia keep persecuting these people simply because of their faith, in fact Putin declared then a "terrorist group" whereas that is the most peaceful organization on planet earth! Matthew 5:11-12

Jesus said that despite all these his disciples will continue preaching zealously and teaching industriously from one country to another and this is evident today as Jehovah's Witnesses have covered all Arab countries in the world in the face of Islamists {Matthew 24:14} only two countries remain today where they haven't formed a congregation but members do go there just for visits.

Today all the religions claiming Christians are into military services and those who aren't into military services are giving their support to the military so that people are killing people globally {Revelations 6:3-4} but at the same time a global family of peace loving worshipers has emerged, they have used God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} all these is happening and those involved aren't aliens from outer space but people like you and i simply because of their faith in a TEACHER who commanded them {Matthew 28:20} to LOVE and pray for their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48; Luke 6:27-28} to LOVE their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and to LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus loves! John 13:34-35

Ọmọ with all these evidences what can you say to convince a right thinking person that a mighty spirit king who is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} is not here today WORKING with these imperfect humans? Revelations 6:1-2

I have delivered the message it's up to you!

Sand2022:
No, they are trapped. Go to the community and hear for yourself.

You don't need to continue deceiving yourself.
There were thousands of Rabbis (religious teachers) in the Jewish community of the first century. When Jesus' teachings began to sound like heresy in the ears of his disciples most of them left him {John 6:61-66} to go and find teachers in other Jewish sects only the twelve remained with him.
Jesus asked those remaining:
“You do not want to go also, do you?” John 6:67
Simon Peter responded:
“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69

So they couldn't leave because according to Peter they're convinced beyond all reasoning that there's no better teacher for everlasting life than Jesus. In the same manner there is no sense in forming a community over a religion you know is not worth it if you're sure of better options out there.
If they're trapped It's not that anyone is holding them back they just can't find a better performing group of people who have formed one big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers!

MightySparrow:
Dó you have faithmeter , how dare you say I don't have faith because I don't buy into your delusion?!

This is the proof that someone has or does not have faith:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

What did God promise that you're expecting to see as evidence of God's Hold Spirit in action even though you can see it?

God promised that in the last days individuals from different nations will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers after studying the Bible {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} and they will relate as if they're speaking the same language! Zephaniah 3:9

Nobody needs to tell you that this is what all FAITHFUL PEOPLE should be out there looking for to be sure that those involved in such thing are under the control of God's Hold Spirit since they're also imperfect humans like all others.

So whatever makes you see it but keep speaking against it means you're FAITHLESS, that's exactly what Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis in the first century failed to see but common Jews like Peter, Matthew, Philip, Thomas, John and the rest saw with their minds eyes! Matthew 13:16

Yet their so called brothers in Christ in Israel will still carry weapons to destroy them because they're in Gaza!

husbandsnatcha:
... Who are the real christians ?

So Christ was given to Jesus by people who love him ie the real christians?
Do you know I have held myself too long from bursting like a grenade, do you know me?
If not nature took everything attributes and power from me I would have manifested myself but I will keep hiding till I finally drink that peaceful poison.
I know his real biological name billions of yrs back as a nephilim which can't be called with human tongue( because a talking husky dog can never pronounce a human name no matter wat it tries ) I have worked upon it so human can call the name of their greatest mind slaver which he hid away from the bible & it's Færalkirixinsçu Behassescu

Christ he answered is the name of a wise Reincarnated winged humanoid vishiniscu (of the same Hindi- triangle with brahma and lord shivå )who was called kristi as a human and Jesus he answered was gotten from zeusus name of a great magician son of a deceitful nephilim like him you call Zeus but we know him as Hellasgeuscu .

At the grave all these I say awaits u but remember that name Behassescu Færalkirixinsçu.

Call it with L l l l it will strike a nerve in him .

Real Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses.

HellVictorinho6:
4get!
We die here!
Nothing dey 4 show
Na craze 2 craze
U dey whine?
No be u dey preach on sunday, smoke on monday, drink on tuesday, carry hookup on wednesday,
Spend tithe on baby mama on thursday, off person on friday, do everything on saturday,
Pastor Herod
na so
u dey carry dog up and down abi?
u dey accuse person up and down
dey form maracana
aareh or aruma damn!
scatter everywhere
spits
4urk street sef!
spits again!
how many guns or knives dey ur side?
my own na 2 find grave
first

You're not serious jọọ, if you don't want me to call you out as a beggar stop mentioning me.

Your own stupidity is killing you.
Do you think all those claiming gospel singers believe in any God?
They're just looking for ways to tap into people's brains and make their dolls while you are here talking trash about their god yet expecting them to dash you money.

I was once a musician, i have the influence to connect you with producers and marketers i can even book two sections for you in the studio just to see what you have to offer.

But i won't like you to get there and turn me into a laughing stock when you start begging those on set for food.

Kingsnairaland:
I think many years ago I asked you can a force speak. This is the principle I used in bringing out one guy from Jehovah witnesses.

You don't understand spiritual things.

God's Holy Spirit speaks to believers through studying the scriptures and meditating on how Jesus applied what is written not that God's Holy Spirit speaks literally. Get the sense now!

Nickisindigo:
Want to ask a question ?
Can someone believe in God but not religious
pls guys I need answers

The title (GOD) means SUPREME BEING that's what makes it impossible to believe in God without religion because you must associate with others that believe in God to continue living by the same rule otherwise you will be an atheist UNKNOWINGLY to you!

Birdbyrde440:
Lol I'm not supporting semovita or anyone calling scripture a fictional book. I wonder what gave you that notion or did I say something?

This is your response to sonmvayina:

Birdbyrde440:
Lol I i didn't know how to respond. No need to insult him, try to save him instead and if he still resists ignore him to damnation.

So can someone who says God's word is fiction save himself talkless of others?

HellVictorinho6:
Na ur papa dem dey beg abi?
Who ur mama epp?

Just stop quoting or mentioning me and i will not have anything to do with your business here on Nairaland.
Do we have a deal?

HellVictorinho6:
Dey play!
Please end u there!

Please stop mentioning or quoting me.

U have warned you time and time again but it seems you love to be dragged in the gutters!

HellVictorinho6:
what about 3k for airtime and sam oda tinz?

Beggi beggi don start again!

This is why i hate it when you quote me i will never give you sisi!

Birdbyrde440:
You just want to talk to me.
No the Scripture is non-fiction.

You started the thread, don't you?
So if you're not interested in talking to me just say so and i will leave your thread sharp sharp.

I don't force my comments on anyone it's only meant for those who wish to chat with me.

If you think God's word is non-fiction then stop supporting sonmvayina he doesn't believe in anything written in that book:

*God created man and used his rib to form woman.
*Noah build an Ark to save all the animals.
*Moses parted the red sea.
All the miracles ever recorded in the Bible including how Mary conceived through God's Holy Spirit is nonsense to sonmvayina!

That's why he is calling it all FICTION.

MightySparrow:
Escapist's approach again.
Can your organization be blasphemed or God?

You can't blasphem humans and sin against God that's impossible, for instance if you meet Jesus talking in the first century surely his talks will irritate you most especially if you're not the type that takes nonsense so you will wonder what he meant by saying people should turn their left cheek when slapped on the right or people should love and pray for those hunting their lives but what if you noticed that this young man is FULFILLING the prophecy that's written in God's word which no one has ever done in history?
If you still lift up your voice against what he's doing despite seeing that with your own eyes then you're no longer attacking Jesus rather you're attacking the active force of God that's evidence of God's backing in what Jesus is doing.

That's the UNFORGIVABLE SIN!

I'm not just responding to you because i know you have no faith neither are you interested in the truth but for the sake of interested followers who may like to know the meaning of sin against God's Holy Spirit!

HellVictorinho6:
dey play

Professional beggar!

Please stop quoting me.

husbandsnatcha:
... Max max this you want us to talk about ....hmmm

Let's talk about humanity i believe there's good reasoning in that.
Our thinking may differ due to upbringing but when we talk about humanity in general we'll both agree on what is beneficial to all!

sonmvayina:
You watched it .didn't you?
Why?

OK if you watch Jesus story why can't you also take it as something you can learn from?
Why complaining?