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Sand2022:
It is no surprise, for there was a prophecy saying that such people will arise. 2tim 3:6,7 says:
"From among these arise men who slyly work their way into households and captivate weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth."

First of all why not convince your friend that Jesus truly exist as a historical figure before worrying yourself about Jehovah's Witnesses?

Sand2022:
I put all of them in prayers, they are still God's creation and He loves them just as He loves me and all in the body of Christ. In fact, it is out of love that I undertook to preach to them on this board on specific teachings they misunderstand, so that any sincere one can see how their position isn't right.

So they should leave the organization for which religion specifically?

Continue in your prayer jàre!

Sand2022:
They are trapped.

So judging from your point of view, if the so
called PIMOS decide to stay in the organization can they be saved?

pasuma:
I tell you for free, you're not a Christian, you think quoting bible makes you a Christian?? Or the doctrine you currently practice you think is Christianity? Your ilks are only being deceived in the name of holy spirit but charlatans claiming to be GOs..

Please o!
Where did this person quote Bible?

Slurity:
I AM A CHRISTAIN AND I CAN TELL YOU FOR FREE, CELESTIAL IS NOT GOD'S CHURCH. IT IS JUST A WORLDLY SOCIETY WITH ROOTED BACKGROUNG IN OCCULTIC PRACTICES. You will be shock to know that they may not even inviting those musicians, but a plan to deceive people to attend. That is the headquarters of pastors marrying multitude wives and also headquarters of single women at the same time.

He just talk wetin dey hìn head nah!

Janosky:
Christ is the first born of God his Father in heaven@, Hebrews 1:6.
As Reuben is the first born of Jacob his Father, Genesis 49:3.
Oga OLAADEGBU, no add your Maggi & noodles to the holy scriptures.
Christ is the "dia", (Instrumentality, agency of creation, PROVEN by Paul the apostle & your TRINITARIAN mentors well versed in Greek & Hebrew
If you have your father's nature,then you are by definition your own father.
When you reject the holy scriptures ,shut down your thinking cap & cleave tight to your man made delusion invented by the Council of Nicene.

Na you get all these time?

Ọmọ just tell him to encourage paulGrundy and other exjws to start worshiping with a living church like Deeperlife instead of wasting their time talking about the religion they left behind at least half bread is better than none.
That's all!

Guy Bill Graham is FAKE!

cornelboy:
Hell and death are spirit?
Where did the bible say it's a spiritual fire?

He is trying to put meaning to what his pastors told him even though he doesn't know how to explain that's why he keeps saying:
"accept Jesus as God"
He now realized that when it comes to Bible knowledge JWs knows far much more than his pastors.
Just imagine him saying evildoers will have spiritual bodies.
Abeg who wan give them?
He just want to console himself that the Bible isn't talking about total destruction of evildoers he keeps thinking they should be alive somewhere instead of dying because to him death shouldn't be the only punishment for sin! Romans 6:23

Kingsnairaland:
You said spirit of God can't talk hope you can see what the spirit is saying to the churches of God in various places

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

The spirit of God talking means the purpose for which God's word (Bible) was composed so if anyone understands the Bible he or she is hearing the spirit of God not that the Holy Spirit is literally talking.

Kingsnairaland:
You can find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, or the last Gospel. Jesus says things like, "Before Abraham was, I am."
And, "I and the Father are one,"
and, "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father."
Bible said it actually pleased God almighty to dwell in Jesus
Glory.

Ọmọ none of those statements translate to Jesus being the Almighty God!

"Before Abraham i existed" means the person transformed into Jesus lived somewhere else before his earthly mission.
"I and the father are one" means i agree with whatever the father wishes.
"If you've seen me you've seen the father" means i came to represent the father.
"God dwells in Jesus" means all the attributes we need to know about God could be seen in the way Jesus lived his life.

None of these translate to Jesus being Almighty God!

Kingsnairaland:
Max my man you keep changing from one point to another lol Unfortunately the scriptures can not be broken it is eternal and the word of God lives forever Bible shows those who think God can't be too severe to destroy people in the lake of fire should first consider the same thing he did in the past
How he destroyed the former world with water and many other people where killed by rain and only saved few people in the ark.
So don't think God's grace that is present today will last forever. The heaven and the earth will be destroyed.

Of course God will utterly destroy badness for good but He won't keep evildoers anywhere as your religion taught you they're to be DESTROYED never to be alive anymore that's the truth.

guysbewise:
If you father make broom well your example is fine, but to make a chair require tools and these tools need to be made using some supernatural knowledge the first time to know how to make steel from special soil.

Zangbeto is an invention on its own but it was meant to entertain the audience that's all, for a person to invent something else he or she needs to have the invention planned in his or her brain before supporting it with whatever power needed.
Labour is manpower voodoo is spirit power so both will be needed but first of all the invention must have been mapped out before you can employ energy from other sources.

That's what you need to understand!

AbuTwins:
Where exactly did I say or insinuate any legalization of infanticides? Actually I agree he had to appeal to Zionist Christians worldwide for support! The bulk of the Zionist Christians are following Israel hook, line and sinker.
I agree 100%!
But majority of those calling themselves Christians refuse to get this.

Another name for Jerusalem is Zion.

Zionism is a sect that's fighting not for the God of Israel but to keep Jerusalem under the control of their sect. The reason why God chose that city was to establish pure worship which will be taken to other places on this planet for whosoever wish to know the truth about worship. Before God made a covenant with the nation of Israel demons have started different forms of worship everywhere and the worshipers don't understand what they're doing people back then just think it's OK as long as they're able to practice the religion of their parents. So by the time God wanted to establish pure worship He first allowed Israelites to be enslaved in Egypt until Egypt became the world power and after 400 years God asked the most powerful king on earth to release the Israelites who were serving as slaves at the time. Of course Pharaoh find it absurd for any so called god to make such a demand when Egypt has so many Gods so how can a God from nowhere just pulp out and make such a demand?
The true God used that as a means to send a signal to all the earth that He is the Almighty in fact the one and only deity worthy of being called GOD.
God made sure that the Israelites secured the land of Canaan for the purpose of pure worship but the Israelites misconstrued the purpose thinking that it's all about their race, they did so many irritating things until God condemned the nation and their land.
First of all they were 12 tribes then 10 out of the 12 abandoned pure worship remaining just 2 the 10 tribes were called "Samaritans" during the day of Jesus of Nazareth while the remaining 2 were called "Jews"
When Jesus walked the earth Samaritans have lost it completely so in a sense they're no longer worthy of the covenant so the remaining 2 tribes were expected to continue with God's plan regarding the expansion of pure worship {John 4:19-22} but the Jews killed so many prophets sent to correct their mistakes {Matthew 23:37} that's why God condemned both the Jews and their beloved city Jerusalem {Matthew 23:38} after Jesus of Nazareth the Romans came and destroyed both the city and their temple so the inhabitants were scattered throughout the earth! Luke 11:23
So today if anyone is claiming ZIONIST he or she is fighting a lost battle because the main purpose why God chose that place has been shattered worshipers of the true God no longer need Jerusalem for any reason whatsoever! John 4:23-24

Kingsnairaland:
I know you don't understand it that why you say only one place that did not explain it to you lol

Below says any one who is victorious in Jesus will not be killed by the second death

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Second death only affects evildoers that's what i said previously!

EkeneElectrons:
stay there now, make satan dey win una.

If he's now attending Deeperlife or another church it's OK let him just obey God's word at Hebrews 10:24-25

Walahi talahi you're not a GOOD Christian!

Aemmyjah:
In a house where there's a noisy dog always barking. They left him and went inside the house. It left his cage amd stand at the basement. Day and night, he's determined to prove itself no matter how they ignore him. Let him continue to do what makes him happy. I hope it does his mental health some good

cornelboy:
So God will send hell to burn in the lake of fire, lol for what, so that it can torment too?
Are both death and hell a being that they will feel anything?

DEATH simply means out of existence that's the judgment God gave Adam in the beginning {Genesis 2:17; 3:19} but this death affected both the righteous and unrighteous descendants of Adam because they inherited it through Adam {Romans 5:12} that is the FIRST DEATH, the SECOND DEATH just like the first also means out of existence but there's a difference in this as it will only affect things God never planned in the beginning:

All the evildoers including Satan, demons and false prophets.
Conditions that God never planned in the beginning DEATH, GRAVE

The book of life symbolically means whatever is in God's plans from the beginning! Revelations 20:13-15

Aemmyjah:
He's tormented
Desperate for attention

Janosky:
WAILER ,FAITHLESS miscreant desperate for JWs attention.
Anytime JWs comments , Achorladey be WAILING. JWs maintain silence, achorladey restless in sifia pains & type "madness and insanities" like pregnant women WAILING in labour room.

He said he can AVOID me so i'm watching to see if he could live up to his own word.

Aemmyjah:
Exactly
They think they are interacting with fools like them

The truth is that some of them are SINCERE yet they don't think deeply!

Whatever makes me challenge something then i have what is better to offer so in the absence of a better option i'll rather remain silent.
Whether there is God or not someone who is of the opinion that God does not exist shouldn't raise an argument expecting to win over the other person.

WHY?

Because the simple meaning of the title GOD is SUPREME BEING so if i am not supreme then i have to accept that whatever my neighbour says is the best to his own thinking ability while mine is best to my thinking ability.

The only reason why i can challenge my neighbour's opinion is when i have something better to offer not when i have nothing better!

Janosky:
You have just removed all doubts that you truly do NOT use your God given brain.
My brother asked you an intelligent, salient question to make his point. But you resort to DECEIVE YOURSELF.

He's just a churchgoer totally MISINFORMED but feeling he is better than his fellow churchgoers in other religious centers simply because he is following Kumuyi!

AbuTwins:
An average Jew will never quote the Bible. They'll rather quote their scriptures. But not so Zionist Israel!
Here are other verses about infanticides in the Bible

Expanse2020

So during wars what was recorded as options should be legalized shey?
You guys just pick up words from anywhere and start quoting it as if that's where things started. Why not ask Netanyahu to explain what God said about killing neighbours in the book he is carrying?
God commanded the Israelites to fight and kill those who are disturbing the peace of pure worship in the land He chose for His name to be established that's why Israelites were fighting but you can never ever find anywhere in the book Netanyahu is carrying that says an Israelite should pass the boundaries of Israel to go fighting people who never had any issue with them.
Today the Israelites have been scattered and those living in Israel today aren't real Israelites but dwellers who occupied the place after the original inhabitants have been misplaced.

Go now and do your findings if those living in that place today are the original descendants of Jacob who is called Israel!

Mercisharelove:
The scripture comfirm one male and one female relationship!
Not one male, more females as wives, no, not so from the beginning. How do you know?
Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

As a female they will never agree with you because to them you're saying this due to your being a female and you want the man alone to yourself. So instead of presenting the matter this way why not ask them what is wrong with polyandry?
Of course they will all rush to quote the Bible yet God created one man for one woman as for anyone that has married more than one wife or husband Jesus expressly said that is not God's plan from the beginning God's plan is for a man to belong to a woman and vise versa! Matthew 19:4

Aemmyjah:
Your evidence to believe that someone made something is to know his parents shey? Sense don wound u

They've already shown that they're RELIGIOUS their problem is lack of critical thinking skills.

You can't come up to compel your neighbour into changing what he believes no matter your intellect as long as you can't present a standard that's practically applicable everywhere and beneficial you just have to accept that whatever anyone believes is good to go.
So for someone to claiming atheist yet trying to change the outlook of his neighbour sounds illogical because that's the job of a SUPREME BEING and atheists say there is no supreme being therefore there no reason to justify the arguments a self acclaimed atheist who wants to change the outlook of his or her neighbour who isn't begging him for anything!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
at least you know that you are not part of Christendom/Christianity:
Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

Stupid churchgoer please shut up.
If you don't acknowledge Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Bakare and others that means you know nothing about CHRISTENDOM!

guysbewise:
Most of the technology today came from Alchemy which is one of the best-known, yet most misunderstood, forms of arcane magical lore. Pharmacy originated from the Greek word "magic, charm, cure, potion, medicine", so why can Africa not start to use their powers to become a supper power with good houses, road, 24/7 electricity, best hospitals in the world etc.

It takes PASSION and strong FAITH for someone to INVENT something if your father invented a chair you can only continue to improve on such invention otherwise you have to invent another thing entirely.
Magic doesn't translate to invention it was strictly for entertainment and nothing more.
I'm not doubting that some inventors employ magical means to achieve their goals but they never started with magic they already had their dreams (inventions) in their brains magic only helped to make them achieve it faster.

So you can't expect a magician to invent anything because that's not what he inherited it's what you inherit that you can improve on not what you never thought of or inherited!

Aemmyjah:
Atheists are fools
Like you too
But you believe the universe came from nothing?
Or that the universe is the cause of its own effect
What is made cannot measure it's own standards to his maker
If this is your logic to disprove a creator, sorry dear, you're just too foolish

When you see people always coming out with different arguments to answer the origin of life they are simply MISINFORMED RELIGIONISTS not ATHEISTS.
Real atheists don't waste a second debating over what they strongly think does not exist so they're out there sourcing for means to make money due to the gullibility of their religious neighbours so anyone arguing here and there is surely a staunch BELIEVER that's why such ones are seriously looking for ways to PREACH and TEACH others what they think they know and trust me they're doing this CONSCIENTIOUSLY and RELIGIOUSLY!

guysbewise:
If this true why can they not use to give Africa 24/7 electricity, good roads, technology to make Africa a world power?

MAGIC is not for BENEFITS but to entertain the audience, exactly what people are doing in the churches of Christendom today.

Mr John, you're a novice.
Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Bakare in those videos are bonafide members of Christendom so since you don't acknowledge them you're just fooling around!

johnw47:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
perpetual liar, lost false jw mad max
the devil's mob = liars, false accusers, confused and paranoid people etc.
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

PeterObi4Presid:
until i found GOD by myself

This statement is totally MISLEADING!

If you were an atheist or agnostic and no preacher was able to convince you about God then you're indirectly telling atheists, agnostics and others that God will prove Himself to them so there's no need listening to preaching of any sort.

Well you might have heard voices from the spirit realms or seen some weird looking being claiming it's God but the truth is that you have not known anything about the true God because according to God's only begotten Son his disciples must preach to you and continue teaching you before you can have the knowledge of the true God:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!" Romans 10:13-15

So if you have heard any supernatural being telling you something contrary to this arrangement know that such a being is Satan the devil! Galatians 1:8

But if you want to doubt this then wait for all other people to hear God directly themselves there's no reason telling them your experience let them also experience it themselves before believing this so called "God"