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LottiOk:
Whatever!!! all I know is I can never worship a god who creates death,grave,hades, hell

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm very funny!

Death is the result of self-destruction.
Grave, hades and Hell means the condition of the dead.
Worship means doing the will of someone, but you can't do the will of another person if you don't know the benefits thereof.
That's what most of you don't understand in the case of WORSHIP!

bobestman:
Your god jehowah is the one who kill innocent babies he sees as enemies according to your pastor, the fool you are defending here. I debunked your other lie. You have turned a blind eye on that. Brainwashed clown

Guy answer the question which God destroyed the contemporaries of Noah, the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek?

Because babies weren't spared back then?

Do you believe in God?

LottiOk:
How can 1 b happy worshipping a king who hates his own kids. Only religion can make 1 to be so senseless. Tufiakwa!!!

Well hell simply means Grave!

AntiChristian:
This moniker is what?
So that's what it is majorly!

I know you grasp what i'm saying so work on it!

TenQ:
Indeed Allah is the best Deceiver!
The darkness is so much that Muslims will sacrifice their lives to defend it. We can only pray for God to have mercy on them as they are being educated on deceptions of Islam

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm if it's based on what people say on social media i can't leave Islam because we were taught that Christianity is delusion and since there are over 41,000 sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming denominations in Christendom it's really difficult to doubt what our Muslim clerics told us!

Esortigress:
Exactly, his kids lives lavishly while the members live poorly. I don't believe in the Trinity shit anymore because I've thought over it several times. As it stands today JW are the only worshippers that seems to be doing the right thing. No other churches come close, this is coming from the angle of deep truth

Well that been so JWs is the most difficult religion to practice on this planet because we are taught to do things that totally negates all the things we see around us! Ephesians 4:22-24
I wish you take your stand for the truth but my girl it's really really difficult if you're scared of loosing some things.
When Jesus' disciples thought deeply about what their group will become when it's finally established they shouted "who can be saved?" Jesus responded "with man it's impossible (to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses) but with God it is possible" Matthew 19:25-26
So i hope you take a firm stand one day my SB if you do then i'll say see you in Paradise! Luke 23:43

AntiChristian:
What's the context?

Can you preach about what Islam has for mankind without quoting or making reference to the Bible?
I can see that you love to be a soldier for truth but your warfare is based on sentiment while you are hiding the flaws of your parents religion.
We don't know God our parents only taught us what they knew so instead of fighting for what they taught us we need to step out from the box first so we can see the true colour of both the religion our parents handed over to us or the one we find ourselves!

Esortigress:
He's still the same sir, what's with all these deeper life pastors sef, their G.O is living extravagant life while the members are opposite

Na juju be that!
He preaches poverty for members so he keeps pretending he doesn't live extravagant life but his sons are spending the money!

TenQ:
He needed authentication from Jews and Christians to be able to promote Al-Lah the Arabian Deity to the status of the only Tru God Yahweh!

Now you get what i'm saying!
All other sources he added just to show he knew so much!

MightySparrow:
God will not spare any sinner accepted. What exactly has a day old child done. Stillborn, miscarried foetus, aborted foetus. Going back. What is life? When does it enter a body. When will one be accountable for his actions?

When talking about sin or sinners the churches have misinformed most of you instead of thinking about the inherited sin from Adam you people think it's all about what a person is doing in this life. Well David have answered you that it's from conception that a sinner comes with his sin! Psalms 51:5
So it's not about what you do or what you don't do rather it's because you're a descendant of Adam! Romans 3:23

MightySparrow:
I understand your position it is only complicated. Don't tell me you will stand beside God on judgment day or counsel Him on how to judge.

The Bible is there for you to know God's will for you so don't be gullible thinking you will be favoured simply because you follow Papa, find out what a sinner needs to do so as to be spared in the day of God's vengeance! Zephaniah 2:2-3

MightySparrow:
Yet at the dedication of Solomon' Temple, choir sang with music. Skillful ministrels played, God's glory came down. Thereafter, music ministry was birthed. What we call places of worship today is different from those of those in significance and arrangements.

YES! They do raise their voices to sing for their God but dancing only takes place outside the places of worship. Note that many a good in dancing and some women steal the show due to their talent in dancing {Matthew 14:6} as they twist their waists causing distraction.
That's why dancing wasn't included in places of worship back then.

MightySparrow:
We rightly dance to praise our God and frown at revelling it dance to dirty songs.

Why not find out what is dirty from God's own viewpoint instead of judging from your myopic point of view? Do you know that singing for God while saying what is wrong is worse than kerewa and one corner?
Guy learn to distinguish between what God approves and what He disapproves instead of allowing musicians to deceive with Jesus name added to their quest for fame and fortune!

AntiChristian:
How is this related yes daddy JW?

You told someone:

AntiChristian:
So comment on the actions in your Bible if your God didn't copy the Qu'ran!

But you have been all over the forum about the other religion so you need to take your own advice in that regard!

YES! He got stories from different sources but when asked for authentication he points to only one book: Bible!

TenQ:
I think Mohammed got his stories from several incompatible sources
1. From the Jews
2. From the Christians
3. From the Sabians
4. From Arabian Tales
Etc.
He got bit and pieces from all over. He only built his foundation from Judeo-Christian views.

His followers are desperately trying to duck tape the obvious errors in the perfect book of Allah!
His lack of historical train of sequence is evidently betrayed in his composition of the Qur'an

AntiChristian:
O! Amazing!
I thought it was like https://www.nairaland.com/7641808/another-christian-hypocrisy!
Abi that way one too na Parable!

Note that the verse mentioned the city which the executioners should go "JERUSALEM" {Ezekiel 9:4}
So it's not about idolatry because some were to be marked for salvation while others who aren't marked will be killed by the other men.

It's a revelation of what will happen when God is ready to restore sanity on planet earth!

MindHacker9009:
I was naive in the past but now from some experience I now believe that juju mirror truly exists, but why does no one that has seen it want to talk about it?

The one and only spirit you can deal with and boldly speak about Him publicly is JEHOVAH! Psalms 119:46

All other spirits are deceiving you so you can't say anything about them because they never asked you to go and speak for them unlike the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whose Son ordered us to go and declare God's excellence. Matthew 10:7

All other spirits are demons and they can't do any favors without harm so they won't reveal the truth about their activities that's why their agents can't go out to speak on their behalf.
The only thing they do is entice naive humans with sorcery to gain more agents who mustn't speak about the secret they know!

MightySparrow:
I think you are wasting your own time also. That all are sinners is a welcomed doctrine every christian denomination preaches and teaches.
That children are by default enemies of God is something I can' t really relate with. As we are rejoicing at the arrival of a child, God and the hosts of heaven are unhappy because an enemy has just been added.

Whether you're 100 years old or a fetus in your mother's womb it's the same condition that's affecting you you're a descendant of Adam so you're an enemy of God until you learn to put on the New personality God wants to relate with!

MightySparrow:
I believe children, in spite, of the the fall of man are still holding a special place in God before the age of accountability.

You're wrong with this because when sending those who will destroy His enemies God never spare babies!

MightySparrow:
Otherwise Jesus would have thrusted them away just like his disciples did. Rather, he asked us to learn from them. What judgment awaiting children is not explicit in the scriptures, but by JWs line of thought all children are doomed.

Jesus welcome all sinners whether old or young {Matthew 9:13} his disciples send away the babies because it's their parents who should listen to Jesus and in turn teach their children as God commanded! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

MightySparrow:
Dancing in the church as part of worship is in order. David did, Miriam did. I will yet dance to good music recorded to praise God. Psalms 150. You don't dance in your meeting but dance to Awilo, Davido, Naira Marle, baba alatika. 1 Peter 4:3
[3]For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:

Dancing is for merriment but in the place of worship either temple, synagogue or places where Christians meet is wrong!
You can quote a verse where God's people dance either in the temple, synagogue or places where Christians meet.

AntiChristian:
Because they were idolaters!

This is not the reason why God declared what you're quoting!
It's a revelation of what will happen when God's Kingdom comes notice that the name of the city revealed is mentioned "Jerusalem" this city symbolizes the planet earth. Jesus is the man sealing those to be spared and it's his blood that he's using to mark them so whoever doesn't have this seal will be killed! Luke 19:27

Those following him as executioners are his heavenly armies {Revelations 19:13-14 compare to Ezekiel 9:2} this is not about idolatry rather it's about recognition of Jesus' brothers who are serving as his representatives in the last days. Matthew 25:31-36

The illustration is telling you how rebellious humans will be destroyed when God's Kingdom comes! Matthew 16:27

So now is the time to study your Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses because the angels taking note of those to be spared are presently writing names of those who will be spared as they're sparing their time studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses! Malachi 3:16

When an illiterate follows his mistress to the Catholic Church listening to stories in the Bible but decides to start his own religion using the stories he heard from the mouth of Catholics how do you expect him to remember all the characters mentioned in stories that run from Genesis to Revelations not to talk of dates and venue of events?
Surely he will try to make some sense out of what he was able to gather but then when you know about the real stories the only thing he could tell his gullible followers is that what the Bible documented with specific names, dates and venue of events has been altered.

That's why an average Muslim will quote the Bible to authenticate what Muhammad told him but when you figure out the contradictions they will say it's the Bible yet their book can't tell them anything straightforward.

Well i thank God for sending His Witnesses to help me know the truth about Him and His only begotten Son! John 17:3

LottiOk:
What a time to be alive

Time is running out.
Seek the knowledge of God if you want to be saved out of this crooked generation. Matthew 24:34
Only politicians do attack or support those attacking people for religious reasons, servants of God don't hurt anyone we visit you as a neighbor {Matthew 10:11-13} and if you say "no" we will take our leave peacefully.
So whether you worship or not it's between you and God, when He is ready to flush out all evildoers we would have played our own part visiting to warn you! Ezekiel 3:17-19

You and this your boy/man friend again!

Esortigress:
What Max did to you can only be cured by deliverance , there are many reasons I call you fake pastor John but let me not add to your injury.

MightySparrow:
Meaning enemies of God producing more enemies given God more headaches.

Why did you think God established the laws, prophets and Christ?

Well it's because all humans are God's enemies as our sin is heavier than what any of us can bear {Psalms 49:7-9} the only way out is DEATH for all of us.

Did you note what was done to Jesus Christ?

Well that's what all of us deserve as sinners! Romans 5:12

So humble yourself and learn you're wasting your time claiming pentecostal because even if you spend the remaining 20 years of your life there you will still end up in destruction for lack of faith. As we're all sinners Jesus paid for our (inherited) sin so we can learn to become God's friends and turn a new leaf.

That's what Christianity is all about not some Papa's stuff where you only go singing and dancing thinking you're worshiping Jesus! Matthew 15:7-9

AntiChristian:
So comment on the actions in your Bible if your God didn't copy the Qu'ran!

It seems you're the one living in a glass house yet first to start throwing stones!

https://www.nairaland.com/5581305/after-moses-joshua-continues-terror
https://www.nairaland.com/5586551/did-jesus-perform-signs-he
https://www.nairaland.com/5583854/unjust-law-divorce-new-testament
https://www.nairaland.com/5583051/praise-jesus-having-babies-killed
https://www.nairaland.com/5585588/biblical-jesus-wasnt-great-example
https://www.nairaland.com/5587857/jesus-messiah-also-solomon-david
https://www.nairaland.com/5585860/how-many-sons-does-god
https://www.nairaland.com/5597996/december-25-day-vp-god
https://www.nairaland.com/5583033/more-terror-lord-jesus
https://www.nairaland.com/5604752/falsehood-crucifixion
https://www.nairaland.com/5609704/jesus-crazy-he-god
https://www.nairaland.com/5602780/simple-evidence-bible-not-god
https://www.nairaland.com/5613007/should-disciples-convert-jesus-sent
https://www.nairaland.com/5614036/jesus-made-mistake-2nd-arrival
https://www.nairaland.com/5608781/contradictions-peter-denies-christ
https://www.nairaland.com/5614144/jesus-false-promises-prayers-answered
https://www.nairaland.com/5620999/there-two-incompatible-ten-commandments
https://www.nairaland.com/5598008/jesus-deceiver
https://www.nairaland.com/5581273/terrific-jesus-commands-moses-kill
https://www.nairaland.com/5619723/jesus-forgets-plot
https://www.nairaland.com/5611079/jesus-paul-prayed-christians-unity

jaephoenix:
… and yet Jesus advised his followers to be like children, didn't he? Are you saying Jesus wanted his people be like his enemies? Who, Max?

All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so right from a fetus in it's mother's womb the baby is God's enemy {Psalms 51:5} the reason Jesus told his disciples to become babies is the way children behaves:
They are willing to learn humbly.
They're not separated by racism.
They don't think of class.
They humbly follow orders even from their mates who is wiser.

These attributes Jesus wants his disciples to imitate from little children.

There are also traits Jesus condemned about little children:
They don't know anything more than food and drinks so whether there is merriment or mourning children plays as long as they finds their mates! Luke 7:31-32

So learn to distinguish between the attributes of babies that Jesus commends and that which he condemned!

bobestman:
how will you understand when your brain is infested with jw fables

Understand what again?

God destroyed innocent little babies and you're trying to say it's because their parents are killers so all the babies dying in the world were born by killers shey?
Perhaps your God can't just stop them from dying!

MightySparrow:
Why are JWs giving birth to enemies of God?
Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.
Job.14.4 ,

If you're not a faithless miscreant even what you quoted is in support of JW's opinion.

All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so nobody can give birth to God's friends unless they grow up and learn to become God's friends.
That's what Job is asking nothing clean can come out of the unclean!

Janosky:
Oteneaaron alias Courz is a confirmed Idol Worshipper indoctrinated with spiritism.
It is in his profile.

My brother, oteneaaron (Courz) is an atheist!

Atheists aren't worshiping any god because it's their selfish cravings that's driving them up and down. What atheists are demanding is not knowledge or facts rather they want God to answer them instantly when they call in Him for example they want to become rich so if God will not answer them then they agitate like insulting anyone claiming faith in God.

So in a nutshell money and fortune is their god that's why the true God said:

Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them. Psalms 115:4-8

So they don't care about any god even if it's a spoon as long as they ask something and get it instantly they will bow their heads to that spoon!

Janosky:
Idol Worshipper indoctrinated by Hermes Trismegistus. [/b]

It's a pity our friend don't know the indepth meaning of the word NEGATIVE!

I wonder what could be more positive than the global family of peace loving worshipers where people from all races throughout the earth have become like one happy family!

Esortigress:
You are really a strong man ooo, you are still conquering them all these years 😂
Where is fake pastor johnw 😂

He is looking for what isn't lost!

oteneaaron:
No Max.
There is really no need for these long epistles.
You have already agreed that as a Jehovah's Witness, you are a member of a destructive religious organization who use negative indoctrination tactics to control the minds of their members.

You can't pick one and leave the other.
It is a full package.

Destructive organization? Jesus has answered that. Matthew 10:34-35
Negative indoctrination? That depends on your own viewpoint because with Jesus' teachings millions across the globe have become one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Mark 10:28-30
Control the thoughts of members? Jesus has answered! John 17:20-23

MightySparrow:
How are they God's enemies Bible student?

Psalms 51:5

bobestman:
May God forgive your ignorance and those who put you in that state. The fact that they didn't tell you they are married doesn't mean that they didn't. Many things were omitted. There are many things not reported. Their are certain books for certain characters. Many things were not recorded. Though not all of them married, the messiah did and had a son. Wait 4 it

With the highlighted ọmọ kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

bobestman:
There are 2 God in the old testament - The God of heaven and yahweh/jehowa the impostor God. Only knowledge can help you differentiate between them. The God of heaven believe in the law of karma. If your ancestors killed innocent children, your own children will die in like manner whether you are his ppl or not. The impostor kill for fun and love child sacrifices. With the true God you reap what you sow. Rev 12 made us understand the one who love killing with flood. He attempted to wipe out an innocent child and his mother. Till today he is stil responsible for that act. You will perish for lack of knowledge. The messiah also taught that revenge, killing etc are all works of the devil cos God has appointed a day to judge man. Their is no need to kill them. You are ignorant!

In a nutshell your God destroyed innocent little babies shey?

Ọmọ you haven't said anything tangible the babies are innocent it's their parents that killed not the little babies!