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davidylan:
this is atheist apologist crap also. It is NOT TRUE that you were all "taught" christianity . . . it is also NOT TRUE that you all practically "grew up with christianity". Infact unless you were born into a conservative christian home like i was, you probably had the bible simply to decorate your shelves.

When will this fool stop lying to himself? How do you know that we did not grow up in very conservative christian homes? I grew up in a more onservative hristian home than you.

Of all my friends i grew up with who were "christians", i cant remember anyone of them who read the bible at home or were "taught" christianity. They were simply christians in label only . . . so pls cut out the false crap.

Are we your friends? . The fact that you can't remember any of your friends reading the bible at home(WHICH IS A LIE) does not mean some of us were not made to read and memorize the bible through most of our childhood

I grew up with christianity - and when i say grew up with it i mean read it TWICE A DAY, had to memorise verses once a week, practically could tell which book went after which book by the time i was 8. YOU DID NOT HAVE THAT UPBRINGING SO STOP LYING!

How did the discredited FOOL know this? If this was all you had while growing up I an confidently say that I grew up in a more conservative christian home than you. Idiot. . . . .

noetic3:
how does this dispute the authenticity of the bible?
Are these the lies u feed urself every morning just to feel good? that u foolishly disbelief the bible does not in any way discredit the bible

I don't fee my self any lie inother to feel good, you on the other han have to accept the obvious lies, myths an imaginations of ancient fools who believed that it was right to rape virgins an sacrifice some to their god simply because they were from a different tribe or religion.

do archaeologists necessarily have to agree on the path the israelites took?
There is sufficient evidence that supports the parting of the red sea. . .which is enough. . . what else are u screaming for?

There is ACTUALLY no records to show that the Israelites were ever enslave in egypt outside the lies that were recorded by them in their torah and you are here talking about "sufficient evidence" that supports the parting of the red sea? .

noetic2:
whats the meaning of the above ?

a. whats ur evidence to suggest that Jesus never turned water to wine?

b. why do u choose to discard the enormous evidences[b] that suggest that the red sea was parted[/b]?

you just choose to ignorantly open ur mouth, and ejaculate any rubbish that comes forth from it. 

Toneyb said when the bible was written there was nothing like fiction and non fiction, the fact that you foolishly believe and accept the fictions that were written in the bible does not change them from remaining what they are(fiction).

You keep using words any how, what do you mean by enormous evidence that suggest the red sea was parted? Do you know that archeologist and historians do not even agree as to which direction exactly the Israelites were supposed to have followed assuming that they actually enslaved in egypt(The egyptian record does not have anything to show that they were ever enslaved there). NO egyprtian record talks about Moses or Joseph even though they were placed very close to the kings of egypt according to the lies written in the bible.

Tudor my man. . . . .Whats good?

JeSoul:
This is religion at one of its lowest, tragic loss of a poor child. Bible-believing and practising christians would disagree 100% with this literalist, have strong enough 'faith only' parents. The bible teaches the exact opposite of what they did.

What bible are you talking about? Are these passages missing from your bible?

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.Matthew 21:21

Mark 11:24:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it. John 14:12-14

toneyb:
Keep in mind that when these people wrote down what ever they had in mind there was no seperation between fiction or non fiction as we have today.

A person magically turning water into wine, walking on the sea, will surely be classified as fiction in today's world. A person dividing the sea into two or commanding the sun not to set will also be classified as fiction. . . . . But not in Nigeria because some people believe that pastor Adeboye drove for over 300km on an empty tank. As usual he was alone when it happened and there is no body to help him sell that dangerous lie. . . . . . . .

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=304126.msg4285802#msg4285802 date=1249182815]funny in what way?


I dont see what's so funny about the responses?

and whats new about atheists and satanists bulldozing a thread on Christianity? Ostensibly to show off their "intelligence" and "oversabi"

did you just join nairaland or isnt that what you normally do yourself?[/quote]This one is always angry that he has to defend and believe the myths and fantasies of ancient people who said that the sun moves round the earth. . . . keple. . . . . .

davidylan:
the big bang, evolution, abiogenesis too? C'mon your basis for belief in those two is dependent on faith.

This fool just comes and thinks he has to just say something so that he can soothe his deluded ego. . . Most of the atheist i know do not believe in any of these things. . . .

Excellent post Naira.

There is nothing like god all the gods were created out of the fear of the many and the cleverness of a few. Take a look at the bible and you will see that the biblegod kept changing and evolving when the people changed.

If there is a god he will not allow all the deluded goons we have around defending his positions and telling people what he likes, dislikes or believes. he will do it himself. Read the bible and the koran and you will SEE that people wrote down all the thoughts, ideas and imaginations themselves for either political reasons or because they just wanted to keep each other in line. . . . .Nothing supernatural is contained in either the bible or the koran, just the mere thoughts, imaginations and fantasies of ancient people.

If I die I KNOW that nothing will happen to me there will be no jesus, yahweh, allah, kirsha etc to tell me shit. . . . . . . . .

Ahh toneyb is that really him? . Is this not the same fool that was calling a jamaican woman an ugly monkey on the other thread? . Wonders shall never end. , .

toneyb:
Done. I will also add you up as a friend hope you don't mind.

Thanks. . . I will gladly accept your friends request. . . . .

toneyb:
If he doesn't take his time I am going to post his picture for all the moslems see. Idiot

Do you have his pic? Please send it to my email(Its on my profile) let me see how the deluded fool looks like. . . . . . .

toneyb:
I know very much about Nigeria and how people treat atheist badly over there my dad was an example. Why is this deluded fool calling others cowards? I doubt if you will be able to stand in front of Abuzola in real life and tell him what you really think about Islam. Stupid fool.

You want the fearful goon to piss in his pants?. . . . . . I wander if he can really stand in front of any Muslim and tell them that Mohammed is a pedophile or that allah is a demon. . . . . The fool just keeps talking but keeps showing that he does not even know what he is saying. . . . . . If not for the internet will this fool ever have the mind to tell the moslems what he really feels about Islam? He better thank the internet where he can hide his face and post. . . . . .deluded fool. . .

davidylan:
and? That is your idea of "persecution"? Northerners wont hire southerners in northern schools too so what have you said that is any different?

I thought you said that christian do not bother about atheist at all? Are you completely stupid?

What a troll . . . so your own idea of being "unequally yoked" is playing on the same football team with a muslim? 

It's your own idea of mixing up that I was trying to ridicule you said you selected moslem class mates to play foot ball as if its something serious. . . why not select them as life partners. . . Idiot. . . .

You shld cover your head in shame.

You are the one that is nsupposed to cover his head in shame. . . .

Not really, they dont care to engage your brainless trolls in an unintellectual fight for scraps.

Ohhh so its you that care to engage "brianless trolls" in an unintellectual fight for crumbs and you think you are any better than them? What a stupid blow hard. . . . . by the way how do you know they do not care? At least some body(a christian) once said that if he meets me in real life he will kill me here on nairaland and he is not a regular poster here. . . .

Helen Ukpabio is your "example"? you shld be ashamed of yourself. What next are you going to throw up? A fight with your friend when you were babies on the validity of bible stories? 

Is she not a christian or are you a better christian than her? Does you bible not tell people not to suffer a witch to live? does the bible not say that people should kill witches? Is she not doing what the bible tells those of them that have the mind to really practice what it teaches? Idiot. . . .

davidylan:
you're trying way too hard to make your lies stick. Who are these "friends" of yours? no genuine born again christian goes to a joint to drink, you must have met up with hoodlums masquerading as "christians".

This fool just labels people he has never meet as hoodlums masqureding as christians. . .did I tell you that they were drinking with us?   . I bindex and another friend were drinking at a joint and they came and meet bindex and his other friend because they had a business deal.

We may not be talking of Ifa or Ogun worshipers BUT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM ATHEISTS! Trying to divorce you from them is stupid and is simply because you desperately want to carve out the victim status for yourself.

The lie this fool keeps telling himself so that he will be happy. . . we are very different and the society knows that very well. . . .the Nigerian christian society treats atheist very differently from moslems and people with other religious beliefs and that is a FACT

As for taking my bible and calling it fiction in lagos . . . that i wont last a day is a figment of your imagination. the worst you'll get is people trying to pray for you by force. Quit the lying . . . we lived in nigeria too.

I repeat take the bible and move from one christian house to the next shouting that it is a piece of fiction in lagos and see if you will last a day. . . deluded fool. . .

davidylan:
What a stupid way of sidestepping the facts . . . and lying at the same time. So you mean atheists who have no influence are persecuted? Exactly by whom? Pls give us examples and stop mentioning your mom . . .

By friends and family. . . . .I have a friend that was not taken for a job because his deeper life boss found out he was an atheist and didn't want the devil to come and work amongst them "children of god".

Truly we dont care about the atheist . . . we simply care that he is not allowed to spew garbage about the bible without being corrected.

Corrected? You give yourself too much credit you do not deserve. . . you have never corrected any body here you only spill lies and more lies. . . unless if you call your deluded opinion correction. . . i wonder who will like to be corrected by a deluded fool that does not even understand what he is saying most of the time. . . .

that is not true. We had muslim classmates, colleagues and friends . . . they said what they wanted to say about the bible. When it came time to play football we ignored all that and selected them as part of our teams.

Is this not the same fool that goes around saying that it is not good to be unequaly yoked with unbelievers? Is this not the same fool that keeps bleating that the bible says that unbelievrs are condemed already? Of course you have to select them as part of your team because you can't stop them from playing foot ball. . . . Nigerians irrespective of their very intollerent and opposing religious views all support the super eagles. . . .That's just by the way in Niaja people its better to profess your believe in something than to profess your disbelief.  

Really people dont bother about atheists . . . consider how many of us on this forum even bother to respond to you. We're not more than 5!!!

Most of the others do not really have anything to say. . . . . .

pls correct that lie . . . your mother and aunt are not the entire naija.

your friend slapped you [size=16pt]as kids[/size] and that is all the proof you have? What an idiot.

Here is a youtube video for you to watch on how militant christians are up in arms against people that disagree with them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWktZEj6OZ8

davidylan:
All these pretended outrage from these chickens . . .

And when he goes on to give an example of "what will happen to them" in naija, he talks about the reaction of his mother and aunt. How are we responsible for whatever your family has to say about your religious affiliation?

My father is a christian, his brother is an ogun worshiper . . . no one cares! He comes to visit, his kids come on holidays . . . everyone simply gets on with life and ignores him to go butchering his dogs and pouring his libation in his own home.

Wole soyinka is an avowed Ifa enthusiast . . . he is still widely respected everywhere in nigeria regardless.

So stop giving us that crap about you being afraid of whatever someone has to say to you. the truth is NO ONE CARES!

Will this fool stop lying? I was attacked in Abuja last year by some fools when I told them that the bible is pure fiction and I do not believe in it. These were guys I meet that very day(they were Bindex friends). We were drinking at a joint when an argument began about religion and when I told them that I do not believe in the bible they started cursing and started throwing bottles at me.

Actually people do not care if you profess to one religion or the other but once you say you are an atheist people will really want to deal with you. We are not talking about Ifa or ogun worshippers here we are talking about people that do not believe in imaginary deities. . . . .

Take your bible and start walking the streets of lagos telling people that it is a piece of fictions and see if you will last a day. . .

davidylan:
Has he heard of Tai Solarin? I knew he was an atheist[b] even before i was 8 yrs old [/b]and he was one of the most respected dudes in Ogun State. The day he died even little kids like us knew!
Many of you are simply deluded cowards too afraid even to come out to your own parents.

Will you stop deludeding your self with this stupid lie? Since you are a well known liar I know you will say anything that will help your position. Tai Solarin is an atheist that had a lot of influence and that is the difference. Try to be an atheist in Niaja for a day and see what will happen to you.

so you're refering to your mom, aunt and uncle as "deluded fools"? So far they seem to be the only ones bothered about your spirituality. the rest of us could care less.

Another lie. . . . Yet you openly said that you dislike atheist? Careless indeed. . . . . .You do not careless at all. . . . all your post on the NL religious section show that you are very much bothered by what atheist think despite all your pretense. You very much care about atheist. You can't dislike what you donn't care about. . . .  

Sometimes you wonder if these people have a brain grounded in reality. I  lived in that same Naija for 23 yrs, no one did my thinking for me. When i entered college i didnt attend church for 4 months, never attended anything beyond sunday service for 5 yrs . . . and no one bothered me an inch.

People will begin to bother you when you tell them that the bible they hold in their hands is a piece of fiction if they come to preach to you. The day you will work out on a group of people in an office or school who invite you to come and join them in prayers in naija will be the day people will begin to bother you. If people invite you to come and pray with them in naija pls tell them that you don't believe in their imaginary god and see what will happen to you.

Again comparing apples to oranges. Confronting a muslim is not equivalent to being bold enough to proclaim my faith . . .

I don't have to be bold to tell people I am an atheist here in europe. . .nobody cares. . . thats not the same with Naija. . . people will harm you if they have the opportunity. . . at least I know a friend that slapped when we were kids for asking questions about the bible in naija. . . . .

jagunlabi:
After having read the bible OT thoroughly and with open-mind,describe what will be in your profiling of the jewish deity called yahweh, if you are asked to make a list of his charater traits?I am really curious to know what people will write down,especially atheists.

Yahweh is the elder brother of Allah when it comes to violence, commanding people to kill, steal, rape, loot, enslave each other and fear him. yahweh is a warrior and evil god.

The OT god is so evil that he even admits that there can not be evil without him causing it.

•(Isaiah 45:7, KJV) - "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
•(Amos 3:6) - "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?"

davidylan:
Again the usual atheist cowardly excuse that doesnt hold water. Stating my islamic opinions before a jihadist is NOT the same as boldly proclaiming myself a christian before an atheist or muslim. I do that, many other christians boldly do that. why are the atheists afraid of doing same? I thought they were all intelligent, logical and more scientifically inclined than the rest of us religious "morons"?

This fool will never stop giving. . . . . .  Atheist here in  europe very openly express their disbelief in all the fairy tales of the bible, koran and all other religious text. As bindex has said why isn't that the same in Nigeria?. . . I have friends here whose parents are christians (even though its hard to see christians over here) but they get along very well with their children or spouses who are athiest. That can not be said about Naija. Tell people that you are an atheist in naija and every body will run away from you.

Atheist are afraid of coming out in Naija because they very much know what will happen to them. I once showed my mum that I do not believe in the bible and I know very much what happened. An aunt and her husband labelled me the devil and would have harmed me if they hard the oppurtunity(I am not kidding). If only the deluded fools in Naija will allow the athiest to be and have their freedom like in other developed parts of the world you will be suprised at the numbers of Nigerians that will come out as atheist. . . . . most people are afraid, in Naija people are not allowed to think for themselves the constituted authorities(parents, teachers. government etc) do all the thinking for people and you are not allowed to break ranks at all. Atheist are afraid because they don't want to get killed or harmed by deluded fools.

Despite all your rambling here on NL about islam and the jihadist I wonder if you will be able to stand in front of a member of the BOKO HARAM group and tell him how much you despise islam and mohammed. Deluded fool

Kai bindex yane? Ina airport yanzu, ya naija ne? Yan BOKO HARAM so na ta yanyan ka jama'a. Ba za ka je su yan yan ka ka ba ko?

bindex:
If prayers works christians will be perfoming magic as the bible says end of story.

Pastor Adeboye perfromed such magic. . . .he said he drove for over 300km on an empty tank. . . . . can you beat that?

davidylan:
christians have done nothing of the sort . . . there are numerous other threads on this forum you can go to. I wonder why the christian section is your most loved destination. And yet you hypocrite come wailing that someone is trying to impose a delusion on you? You cant even see your own delusion, that is the sad aspect.

This deluded cry baby will never stop giving. . . . where did this deluded fool see "christian section" on nairaland?. . . hopeless fool. . . . .

davidylan:
Unfortunately that is flatly untrue. I am totally unmoved by insults . . . and whether others are insulted less.

Since you are known for lying all the time I'll advice you to keep it up. . . .

One thing i have consistently observed, atheists LOVE docile people they can push around to provide their countless myriads of "proof". Atheists dont like to be put on the spot to answer their own ridiculous questions.

What are the atheist ridiculous question? Let me ask you one of the "ridiculous" questions. Where is your evidence for the god you love using to hide behind your miserable life and also use as a justification to hate others? Nobody is here asking you for proof cos you have non at all, you don't even understand what you are trying to defend so how can any body ask you for proof of what you don't even understand?. . . .stop giving your self credit you don't deserve at all. . . . . . .

I have a bad attitude to liars, frauds and noise makers. I have a bad attitude to those who hypocritically claim God doesnt exist but spend a disproportionate amount of their time talking about Him and His book.

You are a very well known liar, so keep up the good work, You guys use your imaginary god to hate others that say they do not believe in your fairy tales, as long as you continue to do that then you guys should expect a push back. . . . .we don't spend a lot of time talking about your imaginary deity we spend a lot of time showing you guys that you have no arguments at all. . . . .the day you goons will stop using the words of equally deluded ancient savages who say that those of us that do not believe in their LIES are fools then you goons should always expect a push back. . . . the bible is the word of god eh? Where is your evidence for your imaginary deity writing any part of it? I can't help but laugh with scorn. . .deluded goons. . . .

I have a bad attitude to those who think they can copy paste nonsense from the web to deceive others. I have a bad attitude to those who accuse the christian faith of being unreasonable when their own "belief" in the alternative is grounded on baseless faith.

Just as we have a VERY bad attitude to those that use the imaginations, fantasies, myths and ideas of ancient goons to deceive others, hate them and treat them badly for not believing in the fairy tales of ancient fools and LIARS. . . . . . . .

There are truly "loads and loads" of other christians here . . . 90% of them dont care what you say about the bible.

Sorry for having a bad attitude . . . get with it.

That's a LIE, most christians do not want to get involved mostly because they can't stand the heat or do not have any thing to say. . . . . .as long as you deluded goons keep hiding behind the book of myths to hate others then you should all expect a push back simple. . . . . .

Gaggi:
Ok, interesting. Sorry for una sha.

Sorry for us for not believing the myths, urban legends, lies and fantasies that were written or said by other men that have NO evidence what so ever?. . . . . , You try no be small. . . . . .

The many many lies deluded fanatics tell themselves so that they can sleep at night. . . . .

Abuzola:
Dear christian, how can you worship a god, a weak god for that matter. Genesis 2:1-3, God finished all his work and rested on the 7th day, poor christian god. Mathew 26:67 'jesus was struck, spat, beaten and spat, mathew 27:46 jesus cried with agony making senseless talk 'myself myself, why thou forsake me forsake myself'
john 8:28 jesus said 'i do nothing of myself'



Quran 40:68
It is He (ALLAH) who gives life and causes death. And when He decides upon a thing He says to it only 'BE' and it is'


knowledge hath come to you, be wise and choose the right path of the Almighty

Tell allah that i say he is a fool. . . .he should say BE and let my life end the next minute. . . maybe that will convince some of you muslims that he is a "living" god. . . . . stupid retard. . . . . .

davidylan:
this is the major problem . . . "debate" has a different definition on this section. It simply means a one-sided attack on the bible.

As far as i learnt in school, a REAL DEBATE is a two-way street . . . the atheist comes here with copy-paste poorly articulated "arguments" he got from someone else's website then proceeds to bombard the christian with insulting demands for "PROOF". Ask him to prove his own point of view and he starts complaining of a deadlock.

This fool continues to give himself credit he never deserves, no body is asking you to prove anything because you can not prove anything. . . . .you have confessed yourself that you believe relies only on faith and we know that faith(christian faith) says that you must believe even when the claims it presents make no sense at all. . . . . . .we are not here to ask you to prove anything but to show you that you have NO arguments at all, as long as you continue to use the bible and the deluded relationship you claim to have with the jewish carpenter as your reason to hate others then you should expect a push back.

No body is here to ask you to prove anything because you do NOT know anything. . . . we all know where to go when seeking proof, nobody in his right senses will ask a deluded and know nothing fool like you to prove anything to him. . . . .by the way we are not even here for any debates. . . .debates are about people that have arguments to present, you have no arguments to present at all. . . . . . . in fact you don't even know what you are saying at all. . . .you have said yourself that christianity and its assertions do not make sense and anybody that wants to follow it most do so through faith, so how do you expect any body to debate with you on a position you claim does not make sense to you, a position you know very little about and mostly accept it through faith? . . . . hopeless fool. . . . .

Chrisbenogor:
Even if your message were true, your piss poor approach will make anyone who heard it cringe, I am sure hell will be better off than being with you in heaven. YOu suck at human relations, just how does alienating people achieve the aim of bringing people to christ. You are a very very poor christian.

davidylan just uses christianity to as a mask to hide under the very miserable live he is living. . . . .at least he has tacitly confessed here in one or two occasions that he is living a miserable life. . . . . . . .  .

davidylan:
i'm sure he understands . . . many of them just pretend. they accuse creationists of believing Genesis without proof while their[b] entire belief in science[/b] is based solely on the same faith they ridicule.

As some one said this is the lie that deluded fundamentalist tell themselves so that they can sleep at night. . . , 

davidylan:
I reviewed my first paper last yr, it took me less than 2 weeks . . . and i didnt even have to repeat a single experiment. I talked my way through the bottlenecks! 

Enough of the nonsense about scientists having more[b] integrity than the bible writers[/b]!

No Journal will ever ask a fool like you to review any of their articles reason is that you are NOT a scientist enough of your deluded LIES. FOOLS and liars talk around when asked to do actual work. See his lying mouth like "last year I reviewed my first paper", when has going through your project with friend become reviewing scientific paper for publishing? , Scientist call on each other to review their materials they don't call on pseudo scientist to help them in any way. Am sure you know that most of the bible writers remain UNKNOWN.

davidylan:
You people say a lot about science but you indirectly expose the fact that you really dont know anything about it.

good night. As a poor biologist i am far better than you can ever aspire to me.

What does this fool know about science other than crying on nairaland that i am a "scientist". You don't know anything about science. . . . .you have never and will never contribute anything to the scientific process. . . . . . .crying I am a "scientist" on nairaland does not make you one.

By the way is this not the same fool  that was talking about hubris?. . . . . . .

olabowale:
@Pastor AIO: [b]Allah used Muhammad (AS) to cover all lands, all peoples, all the time till the day of Judgement, from the time of Muhammad (AS) onward! [/b]This is one of the reasons you have Bilal bin Rabah (RA), the Muhadhin of Muhammad, being a black african. What else do you want when you have the best, already?

Bawo ni, omo onilee?

Allah used mohammed eh? Where you there when allah was telling mohammed to go and spread islam through violence or did you read it from the book that was written over 300 years after the death of mohammed?

davidylan:
That is what is called mutation, the term "micro" evolution is[b] ENTIRELY MISLEADING[/b]. It alleges that evolution occurs but only has proof for it occuring at a small scale.

The term "micro-evolution" is in relative dis-use today. But of course as a scientist i thought you would already know that.

Entirely misleading according to who? You Since when has your deluded opinion become of any importance to any scientific study or process? .

hubreality:
Huxley2/Tudor knows his games of multiple ids well well. Did u read very well of his posts above explaining that.
Forget, no blankets on the internet. There's web history, track records, and analytics. My cardinal point is for us to regain the usual peace and sharing of knowledge on debates here in the forums without insolence, threats and unruly manners.

What are you saying? Are you saying that tudor is the same person as huxley? You must be kidding right?. . . . . . . .

Abuzola:
@mazaje, wetin concern you, kai ba mutum bane da kake typing ?

A' a ni ba mutum bane ni aljani ne. . . .je ka kuwanta dare ta yi. . . je ka huta. . . . . .