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frosbel:
You left out the Jews 

Not true , we have made a distinction between radical Muslims and peaceful Muslims.

I can also reassure you that anyone who kills is not a Christian because there is no command by Jesus Christ to kill , murder or hate.

Whereas you have an untold number of verses in your Quran, where Muhammad commands you to kill infidels and instil terror into their hearts.

Get your facts right.

This is one of many pictures of Muslims eating Jewish flesh. I can post more if you dare me.


https://www.amnation.com/vfr/Arabs%20waving%20entrails%20of%20butchered%20Israelis%20in%20Ramallah.jpg

In reply to the above highlighted:

* Jesus was the king of war (Deuteronomy 20.11, 18)
   * Jesus disciples killed for the faith ((Judges 15.16)
   * Jesus promoted persecution against the "infidels"(2 Kings 10.19.30)
   * Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
   *Jesus and his fellow warriors murdered thousands (Judges 1.2, 7).
   * Jesus’ method was COMPULSION (Luke 19.27)
   * Jesus is a hater of the physically impaired (Lame, deaf, Blind) (Leviticus (21:16,24)
   * Jesus practiced FORCE and uses evil spirit to torment people (1 Samuel 16:14)
   * Jesus was a WARRIOR (Exodus 15.3, Genesis 32.24)
   * Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
   * Jesus is a slave master, preaches slavery; dont blame white europeans blame Jesus (Leviticus 25.44)
   * Jesus swift to shed blood (1Chronicles 13.9,10, Numbers 16.41,45)
   * Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)



The same Jesus=Son of god=god who wrestled with Jacob all night & displaced his hip? a man of peace?
Abeg make I hear word & Pls, stop your phony lies!

frosbel:

Sorry all killers are evil , but some are more inclined to violence than others.

Yes, I agree.
So why don't we take stock of human lives lost at the hands of Christians and Muslims from beginning of recorded history to date, taking note especially of the world wars and destructive killing power (e.g. WMDs) and willingness to use them by those from either faith - an Adolf Hiltler and the Atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki comes to mind.
Project and estimate the killings by both Christians and Muslims and then lets judge who had been most violent.

The attempts at denial is so laughable and ridiculous and only goes to further expose the level of hypocrisy and double standards by some Christians in this forum.

When the media reports alleged killings by Muslim youths e.g. pictures of what appear to be knife wielding/ stick carrying northern youths; nobody seem to care to verify the authenticity of such news/picture (e.g. were the boys really from the north or even Nigerians at all; how was it deduced they were Muslims etc), no no sir; no such questions - they are easily convinced and quick to pour vitriol on every Muslim for the crime of a few and take liberty to ridicule and insult the religion of Islam for these crimes.

@ Poster:
You should know that the world press and Nigerian press is predominantly owned and controlled by Christians; how else do you expect them to be objective when it comes to Christian/Muslim issues - haba, would you really expect them to castigate their own. The sad problem is the gullible majority (who can't read between the lines) that end up fuelling their hatred and slowly being brainwashed by this huge propaganda system.

Now to the bigots on NL that are always happy to come online and brand all Muslims as terrorists because of the senseless action of a few; how about this reply: ALL Christians are CANNIBALS, because your Christian brothers in Plateau can be seen happily eating dead Muslims.

Should we therefore ask that, is it a coincidence there is no record or history of any Muslim being a cannibal; while that cannot be said for Christians, whether from the north (as in the case of these Beroms) or southern Nigerian? Could this deplorable and lowest act of inhumanity also be related to Christianity?

[quote author=jamil! link=topic=862513.msg10125130#msg10125130 date=1328428783]I cant see any problem with splitting this nation let stop decieving ourselves and do the needful we all know that he who God gives life must survive. Let the saperation be the subject of  the house of assemblies to discuss this week we are tired living with educated-illiterates dudes  from south.[/quote]I support you, me sef tire from this their bragging, abeg we are ready let it happen soon.
Afterwards, just wait and watch oil wars breaking out between them as they fight each other because of NAKED GREED through increasing demand for more resource control down to village level.
Truly, we would be better off without these greedy lot.

Meanwhile, let all the economic refugees wey full up north begin go back to their region, after-all what are they looking for in our almajiri populated, disease stricken, poverty filled, desert north? What are they still doing in the north when they have all this oil money floating in the south, who are they kidding, foolish ppl  

^^^^He is too dumb to understand what that means, let alone the GDP statistical figures giving the breakdown on the regional contributors. A more matured person(s) may understand (though some are in denial), unfortunately you are dealing with small boys, in fact mere puppies still wet behind the ears, filled with ignorance and hatred - what else do you expect.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=668172.msg8330323#msg8330323 date=1305545261]later iddeiots will start shout that it is the north and sw that are Desecrating niger deltas [/quote]Don't mind them, they won't hold their leaders accountable for they siphoning away their money; but would readily turn around and blame the north by calling them parasites.

[quote author=jamil! link=topic=863392.msg10126366#msg10126366 date=1328444802]Another version of boko haram resided in a place where education is available and at the same time they make used of it on whatever acts they are discharged let say it was happened in the north all rubbish utterances should be full the thread with insults and with saying like illerateracy almajiris and rest but for this one it was perpetrated by the educationlist dudes what a shame. Therefore saperation should be the answer of living nigeria at peace by the way split the country called nigeria we parasites as you are saying we are no more interested on the unity.[/quote]Cool down my brother, dem no go talk their own no only our own dem dey see.
Just see bad tactics, blowing up pipelines and causing more pollution to their area, more like cutting off one's nose to spite their face.
If you give them chance, they may even find way to blame it on BH, shebe no be only boko boys sabi throw bombs

I am happy for this thread for bringing out the truth. As we can see from the GDP figures; Nigeria is still basically an agricultural country for which oil contributes a small part of it (about 13%); secondly, all regions and its peoples contribute towards this economy, although some more than others (and we all now know who); however, what should be clear is that nobody or region is a parasite and deserves to be referred as such (reason that caused this thread).

I also take real exception when my region and ppl are insulted in this way and therefore call on all NL bigots (they know themselves) to desist from this act or else we shall readily find cause to resurrect this thread again, with all its damaging evidence to remind them lest they forget; but for now I call on the moderators to pls close this thread and allow peace reign.

Kew word to all is MUTUAL RESPECT.

fuckilious:
@Me_Aboki
You have NOT said anything concrete except trying to turn the question backwards and my Southern brother Chei has replied you perfectly,  now Me_Aboki or whatever you call yourself --> GET LOST since you have nothing factual and logical to say!

My friend, I just directed you to where you would find your answer, don't be lazy, abi you no sabi read?
Isn't that what good students do? After-all your brother chei was yapping about your  educational superiority, why not prove him right by going to the appropriate website then come back and tell us what you found.

I am sorry, if you agreed with chei's reply to my question then you and him are as dumb as I had suspected. In fact that's how you ppl fail exam and blame your teachers, you simply download without bothering to understand the question.

My question specifically referred to the word actively (in bold for extra emphasis) and like most dumb southerners he started talking about oil money.

Pls help me ask him or at least explain how your forefathers were responsible for planting/putting this oil in the depth of the soil or under the ocean some million years ago that you now want to claim credit for?
Even in the case of the so called extraction, help me name any southern owned company (the likes of  Shell etc) actually involved in the production - explain where your ppl are actively involved and therefore contributing in the generation of this oil money, where in fact lies their effort?

FYI, the money comes from the commission (revenue) paid to the Nigerian govt by these multinationals who invest their own money, machinery and expertise; neither your nor my ppl contribute nada.

True, I concede that the oil is found in your region but that's just about it, because your ppl were never responsible for its presence there; as compared to a hard working farmer in the North who would till the soil, plant and harvest what he sowed.    
 
Besides, this oil money contributes only a small percentage (about 13% or so) to the over all national GDP, if in doubt go check the statistics - read and be educated, shocking isn't it

beackyBenneth:
Presidential pardon is waiting for him or have you forgotting that we are in Nigeria again. abeg make i pass joooo

Why not, after-all that would amount to reciprocity, I seem to recall one Ojukwu being pardoned by a Shagari and also one Aremu being plucked from the gates of from hell straight to Aso Rock by an IBB, the latter being rejected by his own ppl but now you wouldn't have guessed otherwise.

Continue with your conspiracy theories, it won't shake us.

If Mustapha was guilty so be it; but by all indications he didn't get a fair trial, the primary witness against him, sgt Rogers, later withdrew his evidence claiming it was forced upon him under duress; yet that wasn't enough because those keen on his conviction want him guilty by all means with or without convincing evidence.

nagoma:
Nobody is looking for approval from arrogant southerners - least from frustrated nairaladers we see here and the dish washers and illegal immigrants in the west. I want no hypocritical patronage from these cannibals. They should call me "goro chewing Aboki cattle rearer " or anything worse if they like. It is good for one to know one's enemies.

Allah shiyimaka albarka It is better to be underrated than overrated, let them continue in their bigotry and inflated egos, time will come when aboki will really shine their eyes.

Have no time to read the full extract, just a few sentences was enough to tell me that it is a cock-n-bull story, a lengthy fabrication designed malign Islam and northern leaders.

First of all, there is no Abubakar Gumi Sch of Arabic Studies in Kano (I should know because I live in Kano) and even if it does exist it wouldn't be the kind you would find almajiri attending because almajiris are not tutored in formal institutions of the kind mentioned.

Secondly, none of the Emir of Kano's many sons ever converted to Christianity, if it actually happened then it would have been one of the biggest scoop for Nigerian Christian community (who dominate the country's media) and would no doubt be milking it for maximum publicity throughout all the media houses.

Lastly, if indeed he had documented evidence of the involvement of those he mentioned why then hasn't he handed it over the press for publication and also why hasn't he handed it over to the relevant authorities for the prosecution of these ppl; his failure to do so should suggest that he is in fact a traitor to the nation and should therefore be arrested for withholding vital information bordering on national security.

The real enemies of this country are slowly exposing themselves, foolish ppl.

Ikengawo:
the whole 'agriculture' as the north's contribution is a total myth.
the South East is actually the most productive state agriculturally and nigerian's main crops for export are Cocoa and Palm Oil
the north does contribute agriculturally, but it's still punching way below it's weight.

So Cocoa is predominantly SE eh? Don't let the Yoruba SW hear you, besides you mean Nigeria's whole agricultural produce is centered around only these two export products? Wow, na so dem teach you for sch. abi?

@OP:
I initially wanted to take you up seriously, however, your username suggested otherwise.
In any case, you may want to refer to the national bureau of statistics for your answer and maybe take a peek at Nigeria's distribution of solid minerals for starters.
While, at it you may also wish to rephrase your question to ask what southerners actually actively contribute to the nations economy so that we can truly appreciate how the north is parasitic to justify your hatred. I am waiting, pls fire on.

^^^^^I thought it was the brain child of Soludu, the former CBN governor, a Christian, who started it; why then blame the person who came after him for completing it?
Surely if it didn't have any merit in the first place why would Soludu, supposedly an educated man with all his PhD intelligence etc, come up with ( as implied by you) such (a bad) idea for Nigeria - or are you by any chance suggesting that Charles Soludu was after-all a numbskull, without any (Ibo) sense?

FYI, Islamic Banking is a right for Muslims who wish to practice their religion, it is an option available to all Nigerians and at the same time not imposed on any one. Therefore, those who wish to deny Muslims this right should go and hang themselves and better still, drag along their brother Soludu for initiating it.

What do ppl like the OP gain by distorting and propagating misleading stories, glad some readers are quite observant and critical; we should continue to expose the liars amongst us.SMH

Seconded, imagine somebody under the username frenchman is now touting the same video in another thread, titled: Boko Haram Beheads Man -- Live.
Goes to prove that some bigots will go to any length to distort stories so as to misinform the gullible and impressionable with a view to stoke up more hatred among Nigerians just to satisfy their hidden agenda.SMH

They killed an innocent person and his wife, a case of mistaken identity, that's why the authorities could not elaborate further on the story.
It turned out the suspect they were after lived opposite to the victims, who was alleged to have returned fire before escaping into the night. Unfortunately, the security operatives mistakenly assumed the shooting came from the opposite house and descended on it killing its defenceless innocent occupants.
The operation was thrown into further confusion resulting in what appeared to be a prolonged battle because mobile police officers from near Hotoro barracks started shooting in the air in an attempt to ward off what they perceived was an imminent attack on their barracks; not knowing that there was in fact an ongoing operation since nobody had earlier cared to informed them.
Just imagine how silly it would look if the two forces actually ended up engaging themselves in a battle due to poor coordination and communication.

^^^^why not join and help them kill, roast and eat them like the CANNIBALS they are, yeah do you want me to upload a video of them eating dead muslims

Some ppl can be easily fooled, so the man was indicted by a tribunal set up by Dariye, the Gov who was in fact alleged to be heavily involved and therefore part of the problem, himself a Christian and no doubt a tribunal heavily constituted by Christians against a Muslim concerning an ethno - religious issue, sure you'll expect the tribunal to be objective - right?

No wonder the FG is not falling for this cheap joke.

Wow!!! I am truly amazed and encouraged: the recent strike during which Nigerians, irrespective of tribe and religion cooperated, protecting each other to fight a common enemy, along with the objectivity that I am now seeing in this thread; is giving me back some degree of confidence that Nigeria is not a lost hope after-all, it can still be salvaged.

After the Boko boys did their own the security operatives also did their own; but mainly due to incompetence and cowardice, mehn they were so jittery and jumpy as well as trigger happy, they were literally shooting at everything and anything that moved, including their own shadows - in the process many were killed, both friend and foe.

However, this does not in anyway excuse the dastardly killing of innocent souls by Boko Haram; but its also true that the law enforcement agents also contributed to the death toll, especially in the latter part and immediately after the attacks.
In fact there are now emerging eyewitness accounts of their culpability, this information is therefore going round and further making everybody nervous. May God help us all.

noiseless:
Neighbours were unanimous in attesting that the man had no connection with boko haram,mmh!So the neighbours now knows who has and hasn't a connection with boko haram?

[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=854184.msg10047390#msg10047390 date=1327518979]See una reasoning. no wonder other Nigerian region believes North supports boko haram. He's brother, neighbor are attesting to his innocence then who were they shooting with? ghost? 4 hours Nigerian army was fighting with an armed man and woman.[b] what is an innocent man and woman doing with a gun? [/b]upon what reason pushed them into attacking the army? even if he was innocent a trial would have saved them while go on defensive move against the army? Abeg commot from here with that innocent jab.  Umar Farouk neighbor, teacher and friends claimed he was innocent and behavior was unprecedented, na wetin happened?

GBAM!!!!!!!![/quote]Who else would be a good character witness other than someone who knows you and lives with you? The man wasn't armed yet the JTF spent hundreds of shells firing under helicopter cover to capture or rather kill just one man and his wife. Abeg, go figure.
My friend, ppl in the north don;t support BH because their mayhem has so far been restricted to north; its a northern problem and their victims are by majority northerners and Muslims. FYI Muslims leaders have come out and condemned these acts, the Emir of Kano shed tears over this incidence; but of course ppl like who can only see things through the prism of ethnic/religious bigotry would fail to notice and reason objectively.

@edoyad
I laugh in Hausa, he he he he so BH are almajiris? you can't be serious. FYI, I have never condoned the killing of any innocent life whether Christian or Muslim nor do I expect otherwise from any sane person.
As for my Emir, well he is already playing his role and I will continue to give him due respect in accordance with my rich Hausa culture. Oh, my bad I forgot your ppl don't have anything close to that, in fact the only contribution the Nok ppl are known to have brought to African culture is the insignificant art of making clay pots. Bush boy like you sef get mouth to talk, abeg go siddon under tree de drink burkutu, what else una sabi  

^^^^ Been following the argument, your powers of deduction and observations are on point, don't mind beaf we all know he's a paid agent.
Civilians are neither safe from the law enforcement agents sent to protect them nor from the real terrorists; because these days they end up being terrorized by both.
Recent Boko Haram Kano attacks gives cause for concern because there were clear indications of extrajudicial killings by the the JTF.

Unfortunately, it appears to have been a botched joint operation involving the army, SSS and mopol representing failed intelligence and cowardice by these operatives, and by all indications the murder of an innocent man and woman.

Accordingly, the mopol cordoned the whole area, blocking off routes for escape, while the army and SSS moved in to arrest the alleged large number of suspects - based on earlier tip off (which turn out to be wrong - since they only got the two they killed).

BBC (Hausa radio) news aired an interview with this man's neighbors immediately after the incidence and they were unanimous in attesting that the man had no connection with Boko Haram and neither was he armed.
Notice how the official story failed to reveal the weapon the man was allegedly using. Eye witness accounts (including some colleagues living in the area) confirmed the joint operatives also had helicopter support providing searchlight to give good visibility during the night operation. So how cold they come up with only two dead suspects given the so called prior surveillance and disproportionate excess fire power used.

Its obvious they were so afraid of these BH boys, hence jumpy and firing at anything and everything.  Unfortunately, this type of cowardice coupled with incompetence and brutality on innocent civilians is what is compounding an already bad situation, where civilians are caught in the middle of double terrorism; on the one hand being terrorized by the real terrorists (BH boys) and on the other by the law enforcement agents sent to protect them.

Our security agencies are clearly ill prepared for these boys, I have never felt so insecure in my own country till now.

[quote author=kj_hova link=topic=851133.msg10012657#msg10012657 date=1327132357]Hey @Leomax,
let me school you a little bit son. Have you been around the many churches in Nigeria to witness the diff versions of xtianity we have? Do you notice how diabolically opposed to each other some of them are? Are you close to Islam enough to notice this same variance in dogma? Do you have Muslim friends? Have you ever seen the Quran before? Ever touched the book, never mind Reading it? Try some of these above. You may soon realize that an ignorant Christian (although might never wear a bomb) is as dangerous to society as an ignorant Muslim.[/quote]^^^^There is still hope for Nigeria with ppl like you; as for the bigots, well may God open their eyes and minds as He has done yours. Amen.

Kai its still happening, they are bombing and shooting, blast so powerful shaking my house, fighting still coming from the direction of police HQ Bompai, my sister claims some of them walked past her front gate, they were heavily armed wearing ammunition belts, they hang around after bombing and engage the police in gun battle, but don't seem bother about civilians

Judas

Kano State NLC branch defying the national HQ, it is advising workers to stay at home and calling for ongoing peaceful demonstration to continue - BBC hausa 8:30pm news. Hope other state branches and civil society groups follow suit.

^^^Wow! What power of logical deduction, pls clap for yourself

davidylan:
this is stupefying. You mean muslims have a right to pray on roads used by everyone else? You mean muslims have a right to block entire streets of a city to pray? Why do you violent hypocrites think muslims should be exempt from French constitutional laws? Are christians allowed to pray by blocking the streets of Paris too?.

If you had read my penultimate post you would have seen that I clearly did not subscribe to the blocking of roads whether for Muslim or Christian prayer. You would also have noticed that I also maintained that the issue in France was not about the blocking of roads (if you had cared to read the article you would also have noticed that neither were the French objecting to the outdoor Muslim prayers on that basis).
However, full of usual arrogance and unable to control your bigotry, you simply jumped into the foray without bothering to look first. Of course your preconceived pre-programmed moronic mind wouldn't allow you reason like a logical human being, especially if it is an opportunity to bash Muslims/Islam, so  whyI am not surprised.

You made several references to Saudi Arabia, pls refer to the topic and tell me if that's what we are discussing; I would be more than happy to indulge on that subject if you would care to start a separate thread on the matter; but for now pls try to stick to the issue at hand.SMH

^^^I pray your nyash catch fire and your toto become infested with fleas from a thousand bush camels.

What have Hausa people done to you.

Yeye woman, even your username (just remove the S) suggests your main preoccupation, which in your case, is obviously through whoring - what else does a wanton slut like you knows best other than to lie on her back and spread them wide open for any randy mongrel.

^^^^Topic: Buhari To Report Nigeria To Foreign Embassies! is clearly quite misleading considering the fact that man wasn't even in attendance at the meeting. SMH