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Abolarin91:
I think I can now understand your point after going through people's comment here. Don't worry, I know someone will patronize you here very soon and we will hear from the person testimony. Keep trying bro, people in need of your service will locate you by God grace.

I know that person will definitely come. Truth however is that I like the fact that people are asking the relevant questions. If such interrogation is consistent, I believe that scammers will have a hard time doing their nefarious acts

gbadexy:
Sounds like a plan . Problem is time frame to get more if a customer wants more urgently.
If I can get a good location to display, we can do business together.
Maybe a bit higher than the cost you gave though So it won't seem like you are being taken advantage of.
By the time you gain trust of people and you are consistent and honest, you will make very good business and connections here and offline.

well about the honesty part, I will tell you to check out the thread with which I sold phones with. There was no single report that I ripped off anyone either by selling faulty device or running away with their money. For months I have been here displaying my works and asking for a job. I have been dragged and called out severally too. I won't be consistent if my end game is just to rip people off and run.

Look around for a good location and contact me. Like I said, I can make fifty doors in two weeks. I won't do it alone though. I will have to hire extra manpower which won't be a problem at all. Kindly let me know when you are ready.

Thanks

Abolarin91:
Its not possible to sell 18k while the whole world is selling it 35k(×2)! Something is fishy somewhere. Thanks to Mayor anyway

please sir where's your location and can you help me make arrangements so I can be supplying these doors. I will really appreciate it.


Thanks

megan1:
Actually I priced iron door in Abuja from a welder that makes doors and his last price was 17k(for single pan) then for double pan it was 30k. I asked the price in July 2020.

So the price of 18k is possible

I tell people to pay me #18,000 so I can make it for them then they can sell at 35,000 at their location. It's the business part I'm talking about. This doors are extremely expensive in some areas and cheaper elsewhere

n3xt:
michilin,

I think you should be able to do this and send down to us in the west.

If you talk to most delivery trucks, they should be able to help deliver this at good figure.
I’ll talk to any of my guys doing that area tho.

aside this picture,do you have any other pictures of the rail plus the dimensions please

This is the work we're currently doing. Like I said earlier, I hire extra hands if there's need for it and people do hire me too. Currently, I'm working for one bigger oga.

The first picture is the sample of the work.


The second picture is the current state of work.

This door is best for store, malls, warehouses, and other high security concern buildings.


Here's the list of materials being used.

3by1½ pipes 1.5mm

Plain pan 2mm

9" frame 16 guage.

If you have more questions about the door, kindly let me know. Thanks

manmade:
Nice iron doors you've got here

yes thanks bro. Just so you know,we do lots of other things that are iron construction related. Good morning sir

They're one step away from bedding. You have every right to be worried. Bear in mind that soon,he will start comparing you with her.

But some guys eh. Your fellow man already warned you to stay away from his wife and you no hear. Na this thing dey kill person

saydfact:
Sir....

The fact you're giving out a job dont mean you shd sound like god..

1. all those sand and granite supplier
2. making NOISE about trucks quantities of materials
3. opportunity to proof yourself .. if you mean business
4 without any drama attached

LOL no way I'm applying if I was one

oga na money you come find. If you can render the services to him, forget your ego and do it.

If na you be me wey Dem dey drag like tiger generator nko.

EgunMogaji2:
Nothing is actually wrong about doing "Baranda" if he is honest about it through I will never patronize one knowingly. To be honest I do not hire from Nairaland as a rule but I do occasionally (my Architect is from here), not that there is no fantastic artisans on here but the internet makes it easy for unscrupulous characters to create a fake persona.

The issue I have is with the price. I searched diligently locally here and the best I could get was N45K for quality that is acceptable to me. The risk here is that a new builder would try to find N16K doors locally to him and run himself mad doing so.

here's the business opportunity that I'm talking about. If these steel doors cost an arm and leg at your location, contact me and I can make the doors for you at my own price and even after adding the cost of transport, you will make decent profit. It's that simple sir

Fromwater:
From Anambra to uyo is now 4k. But if you are warebilling it is cheaper. But, warebilling iron doors will cost even more.

well things have changed. I used "winners line" as at then. I don't know the cost of waybill for doors. If you want me to make enquires about the doors, let me know

erico2k2:
how much does this water tank tower cost?

please contact me with the height of the building, number of tanks it's meant to carry and the location of the job.
07032fourfour6904

Thanks

Please everyone. I understand we live in a climate of mistrust and dishonesty but I tell you guys that I'm not a scammer neither am I a middle man. I'm a welder but not a know it all. I engage extra hands or specialist in some areas if there's need for it.

If you have a job for me, kindly contact me and I promise you that I will deliver it as to our agreement. Do have yourself a great day

n3xt:


How far is Uyo to Anambra sir?

I haven't been to uyo so I can't tell you. But there's a transport company that plies the route daily. They charge like 2k per seat. I know this because I have waybill a phone to someone there

n3xt:
The most expensive part of the steel door which is the metal plate is sold N4,500 - N5,000

Prince Royal, Apata - Ibadan

What else would add up to make up the 45k door?

Double Plates would be 9k - 10k
Frames, welding, painting and transport can’t be 36k.

well I don't want join issues with anyone about this. I'm here to make money and the price at which I sell my wares is something I know I can do. If anyone wants to pay me 46,000 for the jobs I advertise for #18,000 then who am I to reject money. The opportunity to prove my worth here will come and I will take advantage of that. Thanks to everyone who take out time to engage me in a conversation

Abolarin91:
Great! We need more of people like you in this thread(don't easily carried away by honey-mouth)! Your request will wake the mind of most people here now, thank you so much.

this is exactly why I said earlier that this group will be part of the whole business arrangements. People like him will definitely out me as fraud if I am one because they ask the very critical questions

It's 8:58am here and attached is the job I'm currently working on. I am contracted by a bigger oga to work make the store doors for him. The doors are for business plazas and big shops. Like I pointed out earlier, I contract people to work for me when necessary and people do also contract me. I started the work yesterday being Monday and I was able to frame the pipes. By the end of business today, I will show you guys what stage I'm at.


First picture is the sample and the second is work in progress. Please if you want to verify my exact location, kindly come to Nnewi North local government headquarters and that's why I'm doing the job for the man

Badgers14:
My oga, easy oooo I didn't want to quote your whole write up not to jam up space but take am easy oo..

I have not had any business dealings with this guy and don't know him.

But few points I want to address are,
making 2k profit on the specific doors he was talking about.. this is not unusual in business.. I once worked for a fortune 500 company that have a product line that they make no money selling it but it is very popular with consumers, but they have hundreds of other products that they make boat load of profits from.

The welder man here, does not only deal on that specific doors..I am pretty sure he does, like every other businesses out there have their bread and butter product lines.

Second, dealing with different business. That's not unusual either. Personally I have a white collar job but I have sold t shirts, cars, tiles, ladies wears , umbrella, real estate. Etc. Neither were my full time job just i hear about a deal, if it sounds good to me , I will jump in , make the deal , take my cut and keep moving, I am no expert in my side business, so don't ask me which t shirt material is better or which car brand is more durable . I just look at the numbers, if the numbers are good, I am in

If you have dealt with this guy or knew someone who have and the business went sour, kindly advise us here..

Thanks.

let me point out that doors are the least profitable product in my line of work but they are most in demand. A three storey building might require over hundred doors and just one gate, one standing tank, twenty four handrails, twelve step rails. If someone gives you the doors and you deliver,he will contract you to the rest of the jobs and there's no way you won't smile to the bank.

But if you insist on making maximum profits from the doors, you might not find a single job from him because the doors are the first thing people work on

n3xt:
You have been advised by Mayor78. Pls don’t try to take any business on this section until you’ve been able to prove yourself beyond reasonable doubt.

There are lots of smart people here. It’s the best for you!

You could have easily make an in-road if our deal went through but just as Mayor78 rightly pointed out, you didn’t think the deal through before presenting your figures.
Kindly remember I’m almost ready to mobilize you to site before you came up with the need to review the pricing.

If you really do this work, I think you should find a way to prove yourself beyond reasonable doubt.

Kindly reflect/ponder on this.

I'm glad that you brought up the issue here. The fact that I acknowledged that I need to review my initial costs is an evidence that I am not a fraud. I could have quickly collected the money and ran but I realized I can't do the job at that initial price and wouldn't want a situation I will be stuck on a job and not be able to deliver.

I will want everyone to do their due diligence and vet my claims the best way they can to ensure that their money is safe.

Have a great day

gbadexy:
I appreciate my chairman@ mayor78 for his observation. This should be viewed as a selfless public service to help prevent fraudulent activities and unprofessional service rendering.
It also makes it reassuring we have people who would scrutinize without sentiments and point out points that would allow people do due diligence.
@ michilin, don't see it as being antagonised. This is actually a great opportunity to prove yourself and win the hearts of the enlightened and intelligent minds here.
I understand you trying to say the right words to make the first deal here but also be prepared to defend your business be it here or anywhere else convincingly. Don't get tired of explaining and proving you are knowledgeable in your field.
I think the greatest service you could do to yourself is to be honest and consistent in service delivery. You will make whatever big money you initially get from a client in multiple fold with repeated and continuous patronage.

I don't feel attacked at all. We're talking about money and there have been issues about fraud here which I have also witnessed myself. The 3ml which someone lost here is still fresh in everyone's mind

Mayor78:
You are making yourself look more unserious and melodramatic than a skilled fabricator. I have previously expressed doubts here over your claims that you are the main guy behind those doors and gates you post here. You have not made reasonable efforts to prove yourself and covince.

You are posting doors and gates including old samples you have exhibited in your previous 2017 thread as your works without attempts to explain the time of the work. Again the background of the works you are posting shows that the pictures are collections from different locations.

You consistently mentioned Nnewi in Anambra State as your location and even posted your supposed company flier *New Pace* without the exact address of your factory or working place as a genuine workshop would do.

Now you are quoting very attractive prices for the doors you post, and at the same time telling us that your profit per door is less than N2K   How a genuine workshop with apprentices, and co workers would be making doors with N2k profit in Nigeria during a peacetime.

I am still struggling to understand what is going on.

You appears articulate, fluent, and determined but I really doubt that a profit of N2K for a door is enough motivation for a fabricator to grow his business. It may be enough for a middleman in the market or street hustler but doubtful for the handyman himself.

You have previously stated you can work or supply anywhere if the price is good because you are looking for money. But I do observe that when asked to qoute for a location, you changed and extended the goal post requesting the person to be specific of the location. Somebody asked you the cost of the doors to Abuja, you asked for exact Abuja location when we knew that in general. a chartered vehicle from Nnewi to Abuja is what it is, a chartered vehicle to Abuja. Meaning that whether it is wuse, gwarimpa, Karu, maitama, or even aso rock the cost would be insignificant while negotiating the charter at least. The response of a willing fabricator to such enquiry would have been to ask of the quantity then plead for time to get back, so he check the tp cost.

If am not mistaking I think that when you introduced yourself here as new, showed your work and request for a trial job, somebody volunteered to provide conditional guarantee (Is it Twinskenny and Gbadexy supporting), who said he is working in the East then and may stand shortee to start you off. I may be wrong. (if am right with the assertion) That you haven't got a job after that means that you may not have met the guarantors condition or what they found is way out expectations.

But here you are, goading Brabus for work, I hope you wont recluse when the offer comes. I you have been advised to post video of where you are working either in your workshop or at site since you have talked of moving to site to do work if the work is big and money is right. If you kept posting finished works from different fabricators in different workshops and passing same as your hand work, without showing us videos of at least on gate or door you are constructing or where you have installed your work, I and many here would remain unconvinced.

Muyeski is one fabulous fabricator here who has shown his work in videos and pictures, and people here have worked with him previously before some issues. We knew he is the guy behind the gates. We have seen him in action. Ok he may had one or two issues with some here, but he is a fabricator nonetheless.

Workmen don't hide their identity or contact address except if they are hiding away from something.

All the years you were absent or inactive on your gate and doors thread, you werr active on Romance section and techmology section selling phones. You claimed making money selling phone you got from a Nairalander abroad. Nothing bad with engaging in pastime at romance section or double jobbing, but of all jobs, one must be a side hustle. Which one? Phone, or selling doors??

How I wish you will not only gloss over these questions with your erudite grammar or simple soliloquy but go on to spring us with a surprise on what is behind the mask, not merely a Pandora box.

about my profit margin, instead of me to wait forever to make like 10k per day, it's better I make less provided the job comes steady. I will definitely make more money.


About me asking for the exact location in Abuja, I don't think that it will cost same to deliver the doors to the various locations which you mentioned but I maybe wrong though. Another thing is that, let's say you are in gwarinpa and the doors were delivered to gwagwalada isn't that extra stress and cost for the person?

I also explained earlier that if I find something I like, I can take the picture because I know I can either make it or contract someone to do that for me. I'm expert in making doors and gates but some others are experts in making handrails and standing tanks. So I hire their services if there's need for it. I don't claim to know it all. You can see I have never claimed that I can make iron roofing and other heavy part of welding works.


That someone said he would like to visit me and didn't do that isn't my fault sir. He can still do that.


I can use the same picture over and over again because the designs rarely change. I buy these designs already made and just couple them, do the finishing touches, paint and sell. The change coming to this work is from wrought iron design doors. They are new to the market and extremely expensive. I can only make those on demand which I'm yet to do. If you see the pictures of the wrought designs I posted, they are from the internet and looks nothing like Nigeria. It's that simple sir.

The phone business was a side hustle which I did when I was hospitalized to enable me keep body and mind together. A Nairalander was the person Lejuen3 who helped me do the running around while I just order the goods. If you checked the phone thread, there was not a single case of fraud or someone buying faulty device from me even though they all paid me upfront weeks before getting their devices



Modified

I just remembered that I didn't address the issue with address. If you have been to Nnewi, you will know that there's no address system here like in many towns. Nothing like streets and street numbers rarely exist. We use significant buildings and locations as addressing system.

Mayor78:
Here we go again. After saying that you can work anywhere or even mobilise your equipment to site if work is many, you are now clawing back with excuse using location as a draw back. How can location now be a drawback after saying that you can work anywhere in Nigeria if the money is good.

Despite using location as a drawback, you are proposing a build and supply to location arrangement. What is the different between direct selling to builder or homeowner in the required location and supplying to a middleman in same location. How different would you ferry to door to the location to eliminate "location as a draw back"

Are you seriously suggesting that your proposed partner would make 4-5k profit after expenses How can that be possible, when you have told us you make only N2K per door. Are you still saying you will make only N2k per door and your proposed partner would make 4-5K after expenditure and "whatnot"

.......Kindly note that trust and honesty are required from the both of us........
This type of language sounds familiar in dodgy investment proposals or am I just being unnecessarily picky??

Depending on how you want it, we can make this thread and her members a witness to the arrangements. Do you want to hedge the credibility of this thread or "her members" on property section as a leverage for your engagement?? Very ambiguous I may say. Who are her members. Are you sure you have established credibility here as a member of there is something like that to leverage the thread credibility?

You can make and deliver[b] 5 doors[/b] as a start to "assumed partner" in any location? What stop you from making and supplying 3, 5, 5, 10 etc doors direct to builder or homeowner?? Why would you be willing to deliver to a middleman or woman but not directly to the enduser??

Are you trying to avoid thorough and incisive due diligence from a contractor or home owner prior to engagement with you??

What are you avoiding. Am asking because am interested in dealing with you but not yet convinced you are not a middleman, even though I wouldn't have problem dealing with a middleman provided the person comes clean as one. We have many middlemen trading here in roofing, sand, and granite supplies etc.

I can see a lot of rational inconsistencies following your posts. As you may have enjoyed a goodnight sleep and refilled, please prove me otherwise. Assuage my fears and let us deal. Good morning!

ok here's what I'm proposing. The location issues I'm talking about is this. Here in Nnewi, doors are cheaper probably because of cost of living. My proposal for working anywhere is if I'm dealing with a home owner directly but let's say you want to resell them at your location, it's difficult for me to go from my location to your place on every two or three weeks. Some people here even though they are not welders have more market than I have currently. Someone like brabus and Spyder are constantly building new structures. Others here also are dealers in building materials who probably are selling at a faster rate to home owners directly. So if they buy from me and sell to their customers at a price which they want, that's business for me and them.

About the profits margin, let's say at your location that these doors cost about 25-27,000, even after adding the cost of transport you are making my estimated profits margin. That I'm not sure about though.

Hedging on the trust of this thread is just we're doing now. Everyone one is here witness to this interrogation and I believe there are intelligent people who can pick out if I am a fraud or not.

I'm not a middleman even though as I pointed out that I can hire extra hands to help me work if there's need to do that. Everything I posted here is what I can make and have made. But let's say I'm passing and see a design of a gate, I can take the picture. I'm not a know it all so I hire people to work for me when necessary. Let's say I want to build a standing tank, I'm definitely hiring someone to do the job cause as I pointed out yesterday, I had an accident that affected my leg. Truth however is that I'm still trying to expand my business and that's why I'm taking advantage which this group presents for me.

A customer is free to do his own personal enquires about me and have his or her fears cleared.

Let me know if you need anything else about me

Haywhy433:
Yeah go find something that will not injure you

I understand you are in pains bro. But if 45,000 is something you can accept, let me know

Good morning everyone. After the number of enquires I received about the doors which I posted the pictures about, I realized that I'm competitively priced but location is a bit of draw back. But here's what I think which is a business opportunity too. What if I make these doors and supply to you at your location and you sell at a profit depending on your location. I can make about fifty of these every fortnight (two weeks) and depending on the demand, I can hire extra hands to make more.

If you are interested in the business, contact me and let's work out something that will work for us both.

You can make a profit of about 4-5k on each door after expenses and whatnot.

Kindly note that trust and honesty are required from the both of us. We can start with about five doors and see how the market responds to it. Depending on how you want it, we can make this thread and her members a witness to the arrangements.

Kindly ponder upon it while you sleep. Goodnight

Haywhy433:
Bring 86k na 3 weeks.. The shit dey vex me

expensive oh. This is a risky something

Let me know if you want to sell. I will wipe it without caution

Keep doing the good thing that you are doing, you don't know who's watching. Good night

Kimiwa:
Where are you located?

I'm in Nnewi Anambra State sir. My name is Michael Emeka

MelesZenawi:
Wetin u go dey find for the website?

You want buy the boundary?

if you don't know, kindly join the group of people who wants to learn or get out. Don't derail

n3xt:
We will definitely work together.

Let me share something with you.

I wanted to do Tank Tower in Ondo state some years ago and I was given a very ridiculous bill. I think about 800k then. My major concern isn’t the cost but I’m unsure the welder can deliver the job.

So I decided to work with my welder who’s almost 200km (Ogun - Ondo state) away. He was able to give me a better deal at 200k.
I remember talking to a cement truck driver to help move the Tank Tower from Ogun State to Ondo State. I paid less than 100k.

All expense spent on the tank tower was still less than 300k including installation.

I believe we can always work things out when the time comes.
Distance is no barrier for me. We don’t have to meet to work together.

I really like how your mind works. You give people the opportunity to prove their worth. My last discussion with you even though the job didn't materialize made me appreciate the day I joined this thread.

Funny thing is that I have been on Nairaland since but was busy with Dem romance section


Although I made money via here selling phones which I buy from a Nairalander based abroad. Amazing things can happen with the right people around you. And with people like you, I know certainly that I'm going places

amalab30:
Okay thanks for being prompt. I'll keep your contacts handy and when the time comes, I'll do well to inform you duly.

Keep the good works up. Cheers!

thanks boss. Just knowing that you like my works is enough encouragement